(note it's the Sex Pistols version... ;))

Land- Contys
Geology- Cold, hilly and wet (just like the UK ;))
Civ- England
Diffuculty- Emperor

Variant- We play like 'lambs', ie, no demanding cave in too all demands, no wars, and no other aggression... until we hit democracy (bee-lining for it of course... :p) then Democratic Always War (with war-time mobilization with Nationalism)!!! :smoke: :nya: Note its when we research Demo, not when we switch, so we wanna like build up military for Judgement Day(TM)

Wait, so is it a scenario?If it isn't count me in(but do so at your own risk. My highest level i got to was regent and I lost humiliatingly by conquestin the BCs
im sorry if this counts as bumping an old thread, I've wanted to join an SG for so long!

Mythmonster2, you can always start a SG of your own. You don't have to wait until someone else starts one. About you level, no one will have problems with, do mention at the start your not that experienced,and try to follow advice of the other players. After 2 or 3 SG's you should be a confident emperor player.

I'm much more of a follower than a leader, but anyways count me in madviking(in case you already didn't)

Interesting game. Am I correct in my reading that as soon as Democracy is learned, its a switch to Demo, then always war in Democracy? That sounds like fun, hopefully you can get the other civs to declare on you to keep happiness up a bit.

I might be interested in taking on the challenge. Ahh hell, sign me up.

Woah, it's been a while... <clears cobwebs off thread>

So, you're seriously interested? Ok...

Roster
open
open
glenmetx
mythmonsta2
me

I'll roll a start tomorrow (hopefully)

Thought this thread was long dead, glad to see it up and running again.

So we take the worlds crap for 7000 years then pull a "Where not gonna take it!" and lay into them ALL at once. Sounds too fun to pass up, count me in!

sounds like a fun variant. i've got two emperor games under my belt, but i win consistently on regent. if you've still got room on the roster, i'd like to play.

ok guys, after a long night of partying and stuff. I'll roll the start in a few hours. :)

will be watching this... :scan:

Ok, guys (maybe gals) here is the start
save (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/Madv10_4000BC_start.SAV)

Remember to post pictures! :)

who is starting? it might be helpful to update the roster. it might be educational for us all to play the first turnset and then choose the best one.

Well Ansar, I looked at the save this mornin before work but didn't have time to post a pic. I'll try to do it justice with what I have here at work. Hope this helps :lol:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106808/CIV_PAINT.JPG

Well, theres cows, which is always nice.

Thanks for trying. :)

EDIT: Got a screenshot for those who can't understand Cyllus's rendition of the start position.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59067/England.JPG

lol @ cyllus. seriously.

Looks identical to my Uber Paint by memory map IMO... :rotfl:

Yes, who is starting anyways?

I believe Cyllus was crystal clear. Hills, cows, coastal, no river, everything was there.

Wow you guys, i havent been on in so long. Is there any room left in this one?

CVH, this avvie/comment is gross, and I love it :)

Haa, yeah i guess its better than my first idea to put the picture where his neck was actually broken. I probably wouldve been banned for that.

Ok... if you asked for it...

Anybody wanna start?

:lol: I'm pretty sure we're wwaiting for you to do that Mad :lol:

umm would somebody like to start?

May I join? DG level, bunch of SG's, Idiot Extraordinaire.

Wow... 7 seven people!?! :crazyeye:

PS I'll start today

I suggest moving worker to cow S to get a better view of the coastline (fish?) and the decide where to settle. There seems to be a grassland tile NW so we might be able to bring water in without building a town on the hills.
@Madv// Roster please

Hi everyone. This is a kooky crowd so I'll settle in and watch this unfold. Cyllus you have potential. Just ask Daghie. :D

I may be a civ fanatics newb but I'm not a message board newb. Why do I smell sarcasm in the air?

Cyllus, you'll get used to it, prepare for high readings on your sacarsmeter. You get that when you surround yourself with idiots (fine as they may be). Like I loved how the circle of fog around your paintbrush picture rendered ustice to maps of the epoch. The potential part was genuine though.

Cyllus idiots only trait is our humor. When someone throws up a map like yours it gives us a certain sense of pride that there are more of us out there than the public wants to admit.

The youngsters in this thread Ansar, MadV and CVH just shake their head at our nonsense. I don't think they want to be idiots but we're still working on them.

Cyllus, as I am also one of the official "idiots" around here, I wanted to tell you I think your cows were way cuter than the regular ones. You are very creative...and that IS a compliment, not sarcasm. :D

The first 20 is slowly but steady turning into a potential victim of my questionable starting skills. Watch out Madv, I've got my fingers tappin' on the edge of the jam jar.

Anyone who thinks my superior paint skillz are to be denied is just a nut :crazyeye: ... That wasn't what I was refering to lol. If you took my post as if I were insulted then you took it wrong. Unfortunately with these typed conversations that happens pretty much 100% of the time.

As for the start, I'm glad it's not me. I rarely start strong and also very rarely (zero times) play AW. I like my 6th slot as this will be rolling by then and I can more than likely keep up the pace.

P.S. Anyone ever play an SG or 3 at the same time and forget which one they are replying to? This IS the England to Democracy then Dominate jes? :confused: Let me check that, brb.

back.
Yeah and this isn't even AW till later :) also only Emporer, I'm anxious to get rolling. Haven't read an SG with this variant before.

Roster
Cyllus
CVH
glenmetx
mythmonsta2
me
Daghy

Roster
Cyllus
CVH
glenmetx
mythmonsta2
me
Daghy
Looks like madv finally has gone completely :crazyeye: and have invented the bottoms up roster. About time if you ask me.
This is a Got It!

1-4000BC
worker S, reveals whale. Choises: settle in place and lose it, move 1 SE and lose it, move 1 S and get it, but settle on cow (bad) or move 2 SW. Had it been possible to wage war I would have moved 2SW, but we need to expand N asap so I decide to move 1 S and place our royal bum on the cow to get whale and make the other cow available for next town.
2-3950
Found London --> warrior
worker moves to bg
Our opponents are (drumroll) : Americans, Sumerians, Germans, Mongols, Japanese, Iroquois and Greeks
Start writing full speed (50 turns)
3-3900
worker road bg
4-3850
space bar
5-3800
space bar
6-3750
worker (renamed Mrs Viking) start mining
ibt--
warrior-->curragh
7-3700
Fortify warrior Bubba for now.
8-3650
space bar
9-3600
space bar
10-3550
space bar
11-3500
space bar
ibt--
cultexpansion
12-3450
London grows to 2.
mine ready
place citizen on bg and whale
Mrs Viking is sent to forest for shopping...sorry, chopping
13-3400
curragh-->granny
start chop
send sea vessle along E coast and spot land 3 tiles away
14-3350
meet Mongols. we're up alpha and down Masonry/WC/CB. No deal.
Temu has no 2:d town yet. Stats equal but we're weak to him.
15-3300
curragh explores
16-3250
not much but the island E is just another side of a bay.
17-3200
chop finished, start road
18-3150
Oh, the bay looks like an island anyway
19-3100
Curragh spots spices far E
Shame, but growth will come 1 turn before granny is ready
20-3050
Mrs Viking moves to cow
Temu now has BW and Wheel also, darned hut popper he is.
Granny in 3, growth in 2 :-(
writing in 31
10 g's in the kitty, breaking even

THE SAVING OF THE QUEEN (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/56330/madv_3050_BC.SAV)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p265/dagisfroken/civ/madv.jpg

Roster
Daghy- Just played
me- me turn, got it
mythmonsta2 haven't seen him for a long time...
glenmetz- same...
CVH- Eventually
Cyllus

Looks like Britain looks more like Zanzibar for something...

0- Wow... what is this? The island god forgot?
1- Mrs Viking roads cows
2- See light blue borders, Lincoln..., one of the disobediant citizens gets some lux slider, kills research by three (3) turns
3- London makes silo, works on settler, Lincoln is up...
Bronze, Masonry, Ceremonial Burial, sell alpha for Masonry, Bronze and 10 pounds
Khan is now up wheel, warrior code, and cerebral burial, Sell alpha for cerebral, and 35 pounds, dirt-covered, and about to break into a million pieces Mrs Viking sees whats over the rainbow
4- Mrs Viking sees a cow, lots of yellow
5- Mrs Viking is getting tired...
6- London settler -> warrior
The water see saw was just a big ole bay
7- Krakatoa is smoking
8-
9- Krakatoa blows up
10-
Next person, next turn-> London warrior -> settler (size 2, growth in 5, settler in 6)

Be aware that I usually lose count of turns, played to 30... (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/Madv_2550bc.SAV)

Homeland:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/madv_god_cities.PNG
America:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/madv_god_america.PNG

Nice pictures, madviking. I like the Boston marker. :p

Also, cool font. Where can I download it? :cooool:

It's the Iron Maiden font, just google, 'iron maiden font' and you'll get around 12,000 results, but because I'm bored, I'm linking you to it (http://www.maiden-world.com/articles/iron-maiden-fonts-typography.html)

It's the Iron Maiden font, just google, 'iron maiden font' and you'll get around 12,000 results, but because I'm bored, I'm linking you to it (http://www.maiden-world.com/articles/iron-maiden-fonts-typography.html)
Thank ye very much! :hatsoff:

Nice name for the link. ;)

We should be careful with piling cash since we have to cave in and have Mongs on our back. Burn everything over 10 G's asap.

All right, yall sorry. My internet was down but Iiiiiii got it!

Roster for reference:
Roster
Daghy-
me- played
mythmonsta2 - has gotten it
glenmetz- same...
CVH- Eventually...?
Cyllus

I suppose(and hope) we're goin on a 48/72 schedule. Anyways here is the legacy of King Mythmonster2 the Great.
2550: Warrior built in London and a spearman is started.
2510 The new warrior goes out scouting and I move the settler to the hill
2470 I found York on the hill. Here is what is revealed by the founding. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/Civfanatic/TheEMPIRE.jpg
Oooo pretty grassland anyways,
2430 Mrs. Viking has finished her mission to build a road on the cow and is sent to the b g for super secret sp- errr, I mean to build a road!(Yeah that's the ticket)
23900 start road on b g. The spearman regiment is ready for action and fortifies in London. We start another curragh.
2310 York has equipped some villagers with stone axes and the protect the city. They then start on a spearman division .
2270 worker finishes road on b g and and starts a mine. Meanwhile back in London that old curragh is done and we start a settler(if anyones wondering, the warrior built on th my first turn and the first curragh are simply exploring, the warrior found a huge mountain range to the north of London)
2190: the new curragh discovers the Japanese on an island south of us. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/Civfanatic/Japs.jpg
(ignore the highlited war option.)They are up wheel+warrior code and we are up mansory+ alphabet.Trade all techs for their techs. Horses are just outside of York's boundaries! Talk to Mongols and they are up Iron working(!), mysticism, and horseback riding. We are up nothing. Abe's equal with us. Scouting warrior spy's with his little eye YELLOW BOUNDARIES across the mountains.
2150 a barb's two turns away from Mrs. Viking. Hide her in York. See more of Mongol lands. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/Civfanatic/Zoom1.jpg
Thus ends, the reign of Mythmonster2 and the beggening of glenmetz
Ala save

:bump:
Roster
Daghy- in the hole
me- deeper in the hole
mythmonsta2 - played
glenmetz- MIA
CVH- UP
Cyllus- on deck

So, madviking, do you think that I really did anything that reeks of cheiftan?

Be a little wiser about your trades, don't automatically trade something, consider the AI resaling the tech for an inflated price.
Wc- realtivly cheap
Wheel- quite expensive (depending on who you ask)
----
Masonry- expensive
Alphabet- expensive

We might got wheel for just masonry (the less important tech) and some cash. shop it around with khan and lincoln, you might of gotten some crap techs (mysticism, horseback riding, etc.).

I'd say settle SE of the hill SW of York, bring worker and road the pwnys (sorry, i had to do that) and try to assert and pointy stick some stuff.

got it. sorry for the wait i was out this weekend.

Beaker cost in AA. Trade if you (1) can profit (2) need it (3) can afford it. 1 of three is a no go, 2 is sometimes ok and 3 out of 3 is yummy.

BW: 90
masonry: 120
alphabet: 150
pottery: 60
the wheel: 120
WC: 90
CB: 60
IW: 180
writing: 240
mysticism: 120
math: 240
philo: 180
CoL: 300
lit: 300
MM: 360
HBR: 150
poly: 360
currency: 480
republic: 840
monarchy: 720
construction: 600

Note that these costs will diminish when techs are known by some people. You can sell them at enarly that price when they are monopolies, but they can drop to shreds of gold when everybody knows them. Thus the big note on wether you can trade it back right now: if you wait, its price crumbles.

2110 bc: begin mining cattle.
2070 bc: finishes writing begins CoL for repub slingshot
2030 bc: assuming the capital is a settlerfactory i continue building another settler.
1990 bc: i think i skipped logging a turn.. oh well, trade germany for mystisim for alphabet
1950 bc: finish spearman in york, start grainary.
1870 bc: builds gangsterville. all it needs is one expansion and it gets sugar and fish. bring luxury tax down a notch to break even.
1830 bc: nothign
1790 bc: builds settler, changes to barracks to let london gain back in pop.
1750 bc: settler moves north end of my set.

someone else is up now.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/56524/madv_cvh_1750bc.SAV

Just like that aye. Ok "Got it". Don't have a chance to look at the save right this second. I can play this later tonight. Without looking I think I'll focus on expaning and meeting another civ, that's about it. I'm also prone to spending extra cash on embassies, especially needing to cave in to demands since we're so very polite :D I rather not have cash laying around.

Can you dig that?

Cyllus, will we be expecting another one of your artist's impressions? Or will we get a pic from the game this time? ;)

Cyllus, will we be expecting another one of your artist's impressions? Or will we get a pic from the game this time? ;)
naa.
stick with the artist impressions.
so much more fun to watch.
especially if there is a section of the map that says "der b dragyns!"

Oof, you ask too much of me! I couldn't get the save last night (boards were down if you didn't know). So I couldn't play. I leave for work in an hour, we'll see what I can get done.

Just like that aye. Ok "Got it". Don't have a chance to look at the save right this second. I can play this later tonight. Without looking I think I'll focus on expaning and meeting another civ, that's about it. I'm also prone to spending extra cash on embassies, especially needing to cave in to demands since we're so very polite :D I rather not have cash laying around.

Can you dig that?
Right on Dude. Me dig no spare cash. Spend the loot. Oh, and I think London is far from a set.fac

Man as dry as this map is I'm surprised there's not tumbleweed flying around.
So, madviking, do you think that I really did anything that reeks of cheiftan?
Worker tasks. How many turns did you use to get the worker from London to York without doing any work? He gets paid a whole gpt every 25 years to do stuff so make him do stuff.

Another question...is the water at York fresh or salt?

salty, some sort of inlet.

Along with Whomp:
Worker tasks should be as important as your build order in the entry game. You want as an absolute #1 priority to irrigate your food boni, you want to NEVER leave a tile unroaded (some exceptions may apply, but not here), you want the tiles your city works on to be improved, you want to irrigate plains rather than mine non-bonus grasslands (irrigation is faster), you want cities connected and if possible you want to avoid crossing rivers if the tile on the other side is already worked.

This being sais, analysis of what's here: cattle plains near the capital, so you want it irrigated. It would take forever to reach rivers so you lewave it simply roaded, perfect. London will be working whale, cattle + 4 tiles ebfore aqueduct, so you want 4 grasses mined and roaded, not only one.

After that, you'll start roading towards York. This means York should pop a worker first things up: the London one is far and busy.

Next settler from London is going for the river, you need the irrigation. York will build road on its way north and irrigate on its way back down. By that time the London one will have roaded to York and will come back towards London with fresh water.

The 2nd next settler will settle on the hills to make an irrigation canal. Like the hills just S or SW from the forest. And then both York and London can make good 8-turn settler factories, which is the best thing around right now.
Nota Bene: the prevision that you will put a town on a hill warrants skipping the road across it: you actually save worker turns by not roading it since popping a town will "do" the road there.

Right now this plan isn't down the drain, but London will need to produce a worker some time soon for itself

Hope it helped.

Already ahead of you, I'm taking the settler to the river and settling right on it. I only had a chance to look at the save before being called in to work early. We're getting 5 or 6 cities max right where we are. I also think I'm going to trade writing, America and Mongols already have every 1st tier tech and IW/HBR, they'll have researched thier own writing soon enough. Had we researched it before CoL maybe but I doubt it. Now to eat supper and then do the deed.
BTW we don't need a settler factory, there's no place to settle. Even need granaries!? This variant is gonna be interesting...

Preturn: Trade writing to America for IW/HBR and all their 75gs (we have no Iron). Mongols get it for their 50gs. Change London to Settler, will finish when London grows to 5.

IBT nada

1 – 1725 B.C. – Settler toward river, worker toward what is to be Kickapoo to road. Darkwing duck moves and so do the curraghs.
I think we met every civ on this continent and the next continent we should be able to reach, not much room left for it to be.

IBT nada

2 – 1700 B.C. – everything moves. America now knows MM and Philo, how’d they do that? Trade HBR to Japan and Germany for all their g (36 and 35 respectively).

IBT nada

3 – 1675 B.C. – everything moves. Build Embassies everywhere (thumb picture things below for those of you who need to see em) Sumeria is at war with Germany already.

IBT America building Pyramids, Mongols building Oracle

4 – 1650 B.C. – everything moves.

IBT nada

5 – 1625 B.C. – Worker begins Irrigation, Settler moves into position. Sumeria knows Polytheism and he's very snotty about it. Won't take Alha, IW, HBR, and 24 gold for it (not that I'd trade anyway, just checking)

IBT nada

6 – 1600 B.C. – London Settler>Settler (for now), Kickipoo is born starts temple. Explorers do their things.

IBT Japan rudely tells us to get away from his city with our boat. :mad: We agree to but dump our waste overboard when he isn’t looking! Chump.

7 – 1575 B.C. - Gangsterville warrior>warrior. Start suicide run with Gary the Curragh

IBT Japanese buiding Collossus

8 – 1525 B.C. – Worker finishes Irrigation, starts next irrigation. *NOTE* how is it all these abbreviations for CIV terms and still not one for a big word like Irrigation!? Gary survives!

IBT Sumeria politely asks us to get out of their water :) , unlike the RUDE Japanese, we kiss him on the cheek, he blushes :blush: , we explain "It's not like that", he sais he knows but I'm not s sure...

9 – 1500 B.C. – Warrior spots Iron in German somethingberg town that seems to be Sumeria’s first target. Settler in London won’t be ready upon growth, change to temple for now, next guy can change this. Gary survives again and reaches new shore! Nothing else happens.

IBT Germany politely sais Darkwing Duck is in German sovreign territory shrug (who knew?) We agree to scram, no kiss this time.

10 – 1475 B.C. – Rage Cage moves into Kickipoo for MP.
Gonna hold it here, lot going on atm.

OK
Gary the Curragh is in view of an Iroquois Warrior, we’re up Writing on them and they have 115 gold. Only one more civ to meet.
Remember London is working on a temple, may want to change that build, your call.
Important The next settler will need to settle on the hill range to get irrigation to London.
Other Settler is set to build city wherever you like, couple choices.

The Pic (Time toget Proshop on this computer I know)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106808/Madv_6.JPG\

The save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106808/Madv_cyllus_1475BC.SAV

Got It folks. Let's have an Idiot take on this, and my how dry it is :beer:

1475
I'm not to opening a SG and find I'm in the middle of a turn. No big deal, but I prefer to be met by "Click space bar to continue".
D-Duck pulls out of germany. We don't want to annoy Bismarc too much with 37 g's in the box and orders to cave.
Some moves seem odd. A mined cow at York and a worker irrigating a bg nearby. I would have drawn the water E of York instead. We badly need iron but the only available I can see is on the Japanese island S. I'm thinking we could make a run for it if we get MM soon.
Change London to archer (see Bedes temple rant, haha). Will waste 2 shields but better make it ready for settler IF we can go for the free iron.
ibt--
London archer (Barney)-->settler
1450
Sell writing to Iro's for 135 g's
Buy a mongol slave for 117 g's
ibt--
1425
Found Highland Park in the NW mountains. I choosed off coast to get more cult pressure on Bad-Tibra, get the sugar and, I hoped for, some iron (but there was none).
ibt--
1400
Gary the Curragh gets whacked by barb galley, arrrgh :mad: .
ibt--
York granny-->settler
1375
Lust gas up to 20 to prevent York from rioting
ibt--
Gilgamesh starts Temple of Artemis
1350
Abe now has MM. It should be high prioriy to trade for that
ibt--
G-ville warrior-->worker
1325
Scientist in London gets CoL in 3 and settler still in 1.
ibt--
London settler-->curragh
1300
Bicycle Repairman is assigned to MP duty in G-ville
We're average to Jap's, weak to the rest.
ibt--
1275
Workers work
ibt--
1250
Found Talisker N of London -->warrior (can be changed to worker when London grows)
ibt--
CoL finished. Start Lit.
1225
Sell CoL to Iro's for MM + 28 g's
CoL to Khan for 82 g's
CoL to Abe for 52 g's

I hoped to get at least math for the bunch of gold, but I failed :blush: so next player should try to spend it asap. Now that we have MM the York settler (in 5) should be sent to London. We have a curragh ready for upgrading. The Iron in Japan is still free.
London is now set on Colossus since we need no more settlers for a while. Worker get down there to make it a fast builder.
Japan is a slow expander since Koyoto also is set on the bronze guy. Maybe we can squeeze out 1-2 settlers from York to settle some down there.

Can we please have a roster? I kinda lost track of who's next.

I am, I think...

Daghy- played
Me- got it
MM2-
glenmetz- mia
cvh-
cyllus-

yeah I inherited that mined cow, damn near got the thing irrigated too. Figures Gary gets whacked before finishing off that island and whatever civs are on it.

Now a real question, Dahgda was irate :mad: (ok probably just a little miffed) at opening an SG midturn. I'm not up on what's the thing to do, figured it was polite or whatever to leave the final turns to the next guy *shrug*. I take it I'm to play the full ten turns then leave it off yes?

the first thing the player should see is a blinking 'press space bar to play next turn'.

yeah I inherited that mined cow, damn near got the thing irrigated too. Figures Gary gets whacked before finishing off that island and whatever civs are on it.

Now a real question, Dahgda was irate :mad: (ok probably just a little miffed) at opening an SG midturn. I'm not up on what's the thing to do, figured it was polite or whatever to leave the final turns to the next guy *shrug*. I take it I'm to play the full ten turns then leave it off yes?

Oh no, not :mad: . You should see me when I'm mad. Not to worry, I was just a bit surprised and it's easier to take over at the end of turn.

Sorry, I can't do it today, football is on...
But I'll do tommorrow since it's snowing now (about 3 inches). :)

turns out that school WASN'T canceled throwing my week off. [pissed]

Please skip me... :(

All right, guess I got it.

All right, guess I got it.

Keep your eyes on the iron down on the Jap island. You have Galleys next turn. Send settler from York + a warrior and try to claim it. since we cannot fight for it, that's our chance so high priority please.
Keep London growing and improved for colossus.

Ah, sorry, skip me.(School)

Glenmetz up. Let's not have probs with this already guys. keep it going please.

Slowly starting to drag here...

Daghy-
Madviking-sort of requested skip
MM2-requested skip
glenmetz- mia
cvh-Up
cyllus-On Deck

CVH has missed the train big time. You or me Cyllus?

Whoever can play, please play...

Alright, I can play it tonight.

Preturn….. I vomit a little but it’s swallowed up by sand before it hits the ground.

Hit Enter

IBT
Gangsterville Worker(Pimpmeister)->Harbor

1 – 1200 B.C.
Pimpmeister of Gangsterville starts a road

IBT
Highland Park Warrior->Worker
Again… I throw up, this time getting a clean mud puddle in the sand! :vomit:
Yet it evaporates immediately.

2 – 1175 B.C.
Sumeria has Poly and doesn’t have Alpha, IW, HBR. Gilgamesh wants to be a king in a bad way.

IBT
USA Demands 29g, we send it in a bouquet of roses.
Talisker Warrior->Granary

3 – 1150 B.C.
Nothing happening

IBT
Two volcanoes erupt! Other than that, nothing.

4 – 1125 B.C.
MM York a bit, play with sliders a bit

IBT
York Settler->Harbor

5 – 1100 B.C.
Start Settler toward Curragh

IBT
Nothing

6 – 1075 B.C.
More worker turns

IBT
Germany and Sumeria sign Peace, that stinks

7 – 1050 B.C.
Purchase a slave from Germany for 116g
So we can’t upgrade a Curragh without Harbors yet and York will finish a galley in the same amount of time as a harbor, so I switch it.

IBT
Nothing

8 – 1025 B.C.
Sumeria is in Anarchy
Settler and Warrior are in London waiting.

IBT
Workers complete road to Horses

9 – 1000 B.C.
Darkwing Duck spots more iron in the Mountains out of our reach.

IBT
Nada

10 – 975 B.C.
Nothing really

The picture hasn’t really changed, just more roads really. This terrain is rancid, lets see if we can work anything out of this start.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106808/MAP.JPG
Trade ops never really presented themselves to us, although Japan came out of nowhere and traded with our continent. No idea with what.
I name things because for this SG it's fun. :mischief: Soap dish the Curragh I have heading to cross the Ocean since I couldn’t upgrade him, you can do with him what you like.

The Save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106808/madv10_975BC_cyllus.SAV

the great british desert does look bad.
atleast you can drag water in.

are the gems and iron taken?

Sorry, forgot about the harbour required. I'll take it later today.

Guys, I am really, really, really, sorry, but it's just that I've discovered that ,with my schedule, I really don't have enough time for a SG so adios

By Myth, maybe next time. I'll play this now....finally

Time to let 1 or 2 people jump in on this SG, lets? We lost one and have one MIA. Dahgs and myslef are on a small rotation here atm. Crappy start and all, I'd still like to see if we can even last until Demo and make the world pay for us being Sunbaked English Blokes :mad:

pre turn- nada
IBT-
(1) 950- workers work
IBT- Gilgamesh wants us out of Sumer. Well we don't wanna be there anyway so...
Iro's finish Pyramids so they're gonna be big.
Highland Park worker--> temple (pre build for lib.)
(2) 925- Soap Dish head for Iro shores. I can spot Greek border over there.
Iron is still available.
IBT-
(3) 900- Not much. Workers keep sweating which is the foundation of everything to come so that's good.
IBT- York --> Galley, goes S to load our settler (hurry up Harry)
Americans finish the Oracle
Japs finish the Colossus in Koyoto = :mad:
(4) 875- Change London to Lighthouse (i.e. TGL)
IBT-
(5) 850- Soap makes it over the ocean :party:
IBT-
(6) 825- Meet Alex. We're up CoL/MM, he's up Poly and has 211 golds + 6 cities. Hire some scientists. We really could do with some luxes.
IBT-
(7) 800- Galley Harry is loaded w settler and Spear and heading twd the Jap iron. York is building a new settler so we can get the furs W Tokyo.
IBT- Mongols demands 20 g's. We lose 1 turn research on that. Lit in 3 instead of 2.
(8) 775-
IBT- Lit in, start Philo. London --> The Great Library
(9) 750- fiddle with sliders
IBT- Talisker Granny--> lib
(10) 730- All cities but London and York buils librarys.

Harry the Galley should drop the settler party on the iron, then head back to pick up the York settler and bring him W Tokyo to claim the furs. Change some build to worker. We only have 4.

750- good
IBT: Germans have philo... :dubious: Bismarck wants lita, turn down
Gilgy wants alpha+10 gold, cave in (he doesn't have alpha?), Harry sinks :(
730- york settler => settler
710-
IBT: Hiawatha wants litature, reject, they declare war (but they're on another island...)
690- not much
670- settler gets to london
650-
630-
610-
IBT: Soap dish fends off barb, iroquois sign alliance with greeks... :crazyeye:
590-
570-
IBT: Sell CoL to Gilgamesh for Math and 30 gold,
Maps to Gilgy for Ploy and 30 gold, (turns out Gilgy has Monarchy)
get Constuction for Lita, all of gold and 3 gpt from Khan
Sells Mysticism to Toku for 187 gold
550- nothing
save (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/Madv10-550BC.SAV)

Tech wise, we're up on most of the civs with litature, Gilgy has Monopoly on monarchy all civs (except toku) has construction

Variant- We play like 'lambs', ie, no demanding cave in too all demands, no wars, and no other aggression... until we hit democracy (bee-lining for it of course... ) then Democratic Always War (with war-time mobilization with Nationalism)!!! Note its when we research Demo, not when we switch, so we wanna like build up military for Judgement Day(TM)

Hey Boss, how come you reject Hiawathas demand for lit?

We're at war with Iroquois and Greece?

Harry sinks :(

:confused: wha?!? :confused:

Who's up

Whoops, forgot about the rules, my apologies. :lol:

I didn't see it, but it seems like some barb galleys sunk it, for I didn't put into the sea

Losing Harry the Galley means losing a settler and a spear too. Not good. We must try to get that iron. Whoever plays get a galley and a settler out asap.

Honestly, I'm not sure this SG is surviving. Seems to be down to the 3 of us.
That Iron has been claimed by Japan btw.

pre turn--
lux down to 20%
the jap iron is NOT claimed.
change gangstville to galley
IBT--
530BC
G-ville -->lib
mm London which is a catastrophe, will now grow in 1 and build GLib in 27
IBT
510BC
Settler loads in galley and heads for the Iron
Rep. in 32
IBT
Iro's finishes Lighthouse
490BC
Raise lux to 30%
IBT
470BC
start chopping a lib at Highland Park
Can we afford not building military? I decide we can...for now.
IBT
450BC
All I can say is “Too Late”. Furs are gone, iron is gone and mongols have a settler placed on the goody hut.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p265/dagisfroken/toolate.jpg

IBT
430BC
Soap Dish is threatened by a Iro galley
IBT
Sumerians have lit and starts the Glib. Greeks builds SoZ
410BC
Not much
IBT
York builds settler  Horseman
390BC
Workers work
IBT
Abe finishes the wall. Mongols start The Glib
370BC
The Jap island is barb infested so will have to hold on dropping the settler
IBT
Sumerians finishes ToA. Our settler/galley is sunk by a barb ship.

This looks bad as ever, but who knows what will happen. Talisker will finish lib. next turn. Start a galley there and get the settler by London. Send him S but not un-escorted. If Greece or Iros land we might have to pay some for peace since we're short on steel.

:undecide:
.. .