For gods sake what are you doing here? Go here and download it:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=191005

Report the bugs...

Houmie

0 downloads when i started downloading !

FIRST :P

Download complete.

Need a tissue.

lol ;)

:hatsoff: To the team for getting beta 4 out so quickly.It's also right before my days off at work again :woohoo: I love your timing,perfect everytime :goodjob:

FINALLY got my hands on a copy of Warlords. You can bet I'm gonna be downloading this puppy... Looking forward to seeing some of the differences between Vanilla and Warlords....

Looking forward to seeing some of the differences between Vanilla and Warlords....

You wont see any ;)
Total Realism 2.1.3 is like Warlords it self :lol:

You wont see any ;)
Total Realism 2.1.3 is like Warlords it self :lol:

Heheh

I was referring to the actual mod itself... 2.1.3 and how it would compare to Warlords Beta 4... :crazyeye:

The Great Generals thingy is very different. Look forward to depriving myself of more sleep... ;)

unfortunately I just had my first CTD w/ this mod. huge map, 9 civs still in ancient era....I have a pretty nice rig so I dont think it was that.

any savegame ?
Saying "i got CTD" doesnt help...

understood, I reloaded the nearest autosave to see if I can repeat the CTD. Im working towards it, saving prior to each turn :)

You can alos put out what you think does couse the CTD, and I may look into it as freelance beta tester, as well as Hian the Frog may try to create this CTD while testing.

FWIW after a restart from the autosave I have not been able to duplicate it, and am far beyond that turn.

If I am ugrading from an earlier beta , do I need to delete earlier versions first,
or will the new one overwrite the existing ?

cheers

If I am ugrading from an earlier beta , do I need to delete earlier versions first,
or will the new one overwrite the existing ?

cheers

you don't need to anything, installer will delete previous version before installing new

Great work on this mod Houman! I started to play the beta 4 a bit, and no problems have come up yet. I have a question though, what is the opening menu music? It sound very Armenian.:D

I belive it is (or atleast soppoused to be) some Mid East music. I belive Houman wanted it to be Persian.

Great work on this mod Houman! I started to play the beta 4 a bit, and no problems have come up yet. I have a question though, what is the opening menu music? It sound very Armenian.:D


HI Drtad,

The Main Music like the one before (TR Vanilla) is 'borrowed' from the Sound track of an Iranian movie "The Duel"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel_%28Iranian_film%29
http://cinemaclock.com/aw/crva.aw/p.clock/j.e/i.7759/f.Duel.html

Since the society is teaching the Western Kids every day how evil the Iranians are, so I thought I could try to bring the Western kids a bit closer to the Iranian culture and show them the other untold story about Iran's rich heritage and culture.

But I think also France is pretty good presented now with tons of new units and even Unique Buildings. In overall this Mod is not very patriotic (American). ;)

Regards
Houman

But I think also France is pretty good presented now with tons of new units and even Unique Buildings. In overall this Mod is not very patriotic (American).

And i was wondering why America doesnt have Mel Gibson unit...

And i was wondering why America doesnt have Mel Gibson unit...

Celts got Braveheart (William Wallace) as Great General. :D

Im more about Mel Gibson as Patriot in Patriot move.
replaces rifleman.
str 24
withdraw 100%
defence 100% on all terrains
couses collateral damage
moves 3
blitz
hidden nationality (optional)
starts with commando
starts with medic I
etc

And i was wondering why America doesnt have Mel Gibson unit...

Im more about Mel Gibson as Patriot in Patriot move.
replaces rifleman.
str 24
withdraw 100%
defence 100% on all terrains
couses collateral damage
moves 3
blitz
hidden nationality (optional)
starts with commando
starts with medic I
etc


LOL now I got you. ;)

HI Drtad,

The Main Music like the one before (TR Vanilla) is 'borrowed' from the Sound track of an Iranian movie "The Duel"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel_%28Iranian_film%29
http://cinemaclock.com/aw/crva.aw/p.clock/j.e/i.7759/f.Duel.html

Since the society is teaching the Western Kids every day how evil the Iranians are, so I thought I could try to bring the Western kids a bit closer to the Iranian culture and show them the other untold story about Iran's rich heritage and culture.

But I think also France is pretty good presented now with tons of new units and even Unique Buildings. In overall this Mod is not very patriotic (American). ;)

Regards
HoumanBeing a kid living in America I completely understand. Most kids think that the Middle East is devoid of culture entirely, most don't even know where the Middle East is to be honest.;) France is no doubt the best Western country, especially since it is trying to pass the Armenian Genocide law, which shows that they can overcome political pressure from other countries and do what is morally correct.

By the way, any plans on adding some new civs to the mod? Its very nice with great gameplay, but I cringe slightly whenever Saladin builds a temple to Marduk.

Being a kid living in America I completely understand. Most kids think that the Middle East is devoid of culture entirely, most don't even know where the Middle East is to be honest.;) France is no doubt the best Western country, especially since it is trying to pass the Armenian Genocide law, which shows that they can overcome political pressure from other countries and do what is morally correct.

By the way, any plans on adding some new civs to the mod? Its very nice with great gameplay, but I cringe slightly whenever Saladin builds a temple to Marduk.

The Armenians were always very active in iran, depite the Islamic revolution they found listeners to the Armenian Genocide by the Turks, and could freely put their posters and transparent in Tehran streets to remind people of the Genocide. Now after 20 years Europe is becoming aware of this and France is the first one to act about it. And this is only done because Turkey wants to join EU. Otherwise Europe wouldn't have even mentioned it. You know at the end Europe is and always has been hypocritical. At least USA acts in a way where you know they act in self interest and want to remove everyone and everything that could dare to think "unamerican", but Europe is always interested in business affairs and oil contracts in first place. They talk about human rights but in reality there is always another agenda behind it.

I remember when the Europeans were so pissed off Shah of Iran in the 60s and 70s. He was a dictator they said. He would kill the opposition in jails. Mass student protests on the streets when Shah came to visit UK or Germany. He was a slap in the face of human rights, they said...

According to the statistics Shah had executed no more than 334 communists and islamists in his 30 years reign. Since 1979 the Mullah regime has executed 180.000 people.

Who is now going on the streets when Khatami comes to visit Germany or Uk?
Was Europe really interested in human rights in the 60s and 70s or did they follow a different agenda? Who supported and financed the BBC revolution radio channels to braodcast 6 hours a day into Iran (1979) to prepare and organize the Islamic revolution?

Khatami (the former Iranian president) is responsible for killing and imprisoning of many student leaders in Iran and secret serial killing of many oppositional (like mr and Mrs Frouhar), intellectionals, journalists and authors during his reign (1997 and 2005) and this bastard comes here in Scotland and receives a doctor title from St Andrew University for his peaceful acts.
http://calvin.st-andrews.ac.uk/external_relations/news_article.cfm?reference=1006

Sometimes I can spit on Europe for its hypocrisy.

At least Europe had Hitler, who said that he hated Jewls and needed "living space".

They talk about human rights but in reality there is always another agenda behind it.
Like my friend that was "working" (for free) in some food charity to 3rd world. From what he told me, over 35% of money gathered was spend on commercials in TV and broadcast. 5-10% went to the founder of this Charity and "main team". 10% was spend on transport. 45-50% was spend on food it self. OVER 40% OF CARGO WAS STOLEN. Fact is that cargo was stolen BEFORE it has left the airport... Since i found out this i have never did support any charity...

...France is no doubt the best Western country, especially since it is trying to pass the Armenian Genocide law, which shows that they can overcome political pressure from other countries and do what is morally correct.

:lol:
Let me remind you that another country (in this case Belgium) put years before this in law the possibility to judge on crimes against humanity in kourt. In short, any victim of this could start a case in kourt, and if the "defendant" ever put foot on Belgian soil, he would be brought to kourt.

But the last government weakened this law to almost nothing. :(

The Armenians were always very active in iran, depite the Islamic revolution they found listeners to the Armenian Genocide by the Turks, and could freely put their posters and transparent in Tehran streets to remind people of the Genocide. Now after 20 years Europe is becoming aware of this and France is the first one to act about it. And this is only done because Turkey wants to join EU. Otherwise Europe wouldn't have even mentioned it. You know at the end Europe is and always has been hypocritical. At least USA acts in a way where you know they act in self interest and want to remove everyone and everything that could dare to think "unamerican", but Europe is always interested in business affairs and oil contracts in first place. They talk about human rights but in reality there is always another agenda behind it.

I remember when the Europeans were so pissed off Shah of Iran in the 60s and 70s. He was a dictator they said. He would kill the opposition in jails. Mass student protests on the streets when Shah came to visit UK or Germany. He was a slap in the face of human rights, they said...

According to the statistics Shah had executed no more than 334 communists and islamists in his 30 years reign. Since 1979 the Mullah regime has executed 180.000 people.

Who is now going on the streets when Khatami comes to visit Germany or Uk?
Was Europe really interested in human rights in the 60s and 70s or did they follow a different agenda? Who supported and financed the BBC revolution radio channels to braodcast 6 hours a day into Iran (1979) to prepare and organize the Islamic revolution?

Khatami (the former Iranian president) is responsible for killing and imprisoning of many student leaders in Iran and secret serial killing of many oppositional (like mr and Mrs Frouhar), intellectionals, journalists and authors during his reign (1997 and 2005) and this bastard comes here in Scotland and receives a doctor title from St Andrew University for his peaceful acts.
http://calvin.st-andrews.ac.uk/external_relations/news_article.cfm?reference=1006

Sometimes I can spit on Europe for its hypocrisy.Well, I am not surprised I didn't know about all of that history, after all, I go to school in America and I have to say, it definitely needs improvement.

Just started a new game with warlords and your mod for the first time.

3 cities. 2 archers in each city. I'm bleeding around 9 gold at 100% research.
Currently researching bronze working which at 80% (what I need to break even) will take me close to 40 turns...

So is it supposed to be this hard? (That's cool as long as the AI is in a similar fix)...

So the plan is to have some long games I take it?

The plan is to make units more "lasting". In Vanilla i was pissed of becouse with Bronze Working I made a nice stack of axemans ans send them to enemy and saw he was swordsmans ! Si i had lost this battle becouse i had less advanced army, but i also had resarched Iron Working. More, thanks to units upkeep cost i could not get any resarch nor upgrade my units... So i was stuck with disadvanced army. Now it is harder to meet. nce you get bronze, you can make army and declare 2 wars before you or enemy can get Iron working and Force you to loose fight couse of less advanced arms.

The plan is to make units more "lasting". In Vanilla i was pissed of becouse with Bronze Working I made a nice stack of axemans ans send them to enemy and saw he was swordsmans ! Si i had lost this battle becouse i had less advanced army, but i also had resarched Iron Working. More, thanks to units upkeep cost i could not get any resarch nor upgrade my units... So i was stuck with disadvanced army. Now it is harder to meet. nce you get bronze, you can make army and declare 2 wars before you or enemy can get Iron working and Force you to loose fight couse of less advanced arms.

That's awesome! Truly... I just wanted to make sure while my peeps are in a little hut shivering the AI isn't out building aircraft carries at 1 per turn to pummel me;)

Warld Map is bugged at this moment. Too fast resarch + immortal barbarians, where non upgraded warrior can takout 4 attack I archers... Wait for gold release(24th dec if god allows).

Warld Map is bugged at this moment. Too fast resarch + immortal barbarians, where non upgraded warrior can takout 4 attack I archers... Wait for gold release(24th dec if god allows).

How about the random maps? I rarely play on an earth map...

ON random only AI is glitched (not updated) and often prefer early war than expand. So if such civ will loose war, not only it will have only one city, but no science and lots of units to upkeep.

Without getting into a political discussion here (Off-Topic thread? :) ), I'd caution anyone against statements like "best country"... It's a broad sweeping generalisation at best, galactic scale stupidity at worst.

There's no best. There's just different. If by all means anyone here thinks there is a "best" country, and you want me to believe it, I'll need that person to qualify their statements and give me solid evidence that that one particular country is superior to all others, in all ways. Good luck... :-P

What's up with the
"you caputred a slave" message

and why are my cities rebelling like every other turn?
And bombard is gone? Catapults are back to having to charge into someone to do damage?

Check Bug threat
In one of last pages there is .zip released by Mexico conatining Fix. Read his post to know how to install.

Check Bug threat
In one of last pages there is .zip released by Mexico conatining Fix. Read his post to know how to install.

Thanks!

How about the ranged bombardment or the constant rebellions? Features or bugs ;)

ranged bombardment not implented
constant rebellions - slavary is not the only civic that makes slaves and peasants rebelions. Classical Democracy makes that chances even higher.
Read FAQ.
http://www.civ4.houmie.com

ranged bombardment not implented
constant rebellions - slavary is not the only civic that makes slaves and peasants rebelions. Classical Democracy makes that chances even higher.
Read FAQ.
http://www.civ4.houmie.com


It actually keeps happening regardless of civics. Pacificism, nationhood, vassalage, etc.

So, just to confirm, now that the little "aim site" or target icon has been removed from artitllery units (haven't gotten to cannons yet, just catapults and trebuchets), the only way to use these is to "slam" them into an opposing unit?

It actually keeps happening regardless of civics. Pacificism, nationhood, vassalage, etc.

So, just to confirm, now that the little "aim site" or target icon has been removed from artitllery units (haven't gotten to cannons yet, just catapults and trebuchets), the only way to use these is to "slam" them into an opposing unit?

Yup, that's right. Until/If Dale's is reimplemented, Siege units will only be able to be used to reduce defence bonuses of cities or directly attack like other units.