WWII has been won, but as soon as it has been won, another shadow descends over Europe; World War III breaks out, and the once so great allies, US and the USSR find themselves now on opposite sides.

Edit: For those interested, I need to say I have decreased the scope a bit. It will now take place in Europe instead of most of the world, I hope you won't become angry! :P

Nevertheless, we will get to point, and I'll shall demonstrate my plans.

The nations: (nations with fat letters indicate playable nations)

Former Western Allies:
-Allied Minors
-France
-Italy
-Turkey
-United Kingdom
-United States

Cominform:
-Communist Minors
-Czechoslovakia
-Poland
-Romania
-Sovjet Union
-Yugoslavia

Neutral (they can be persuaded to join an alliance or voluntarily join one though its unlikely):
-Ireland
-Finland
-Portugal
-Spain
-Sweden
-Switzerland

Infantry:
-Standard Infantry
-Assualt Infantry

Tanks:
-Light Tank
-Medium Tank
-Heavy Tank
-Main-Battle Tank (i.e. Centurion, T-55)

Artillery:
-Standard Arty
-SPAG
-SPATG
-Standard AA gun
-SPAAG

Aircraft:
-Bombers
-Fighters
-Jet Fighters
-Nuclear Bombers

I have made map where all the action is supposed to take place:
LEGENDA
-Turqaise: British Empire and occupied terretories (American Allies)
-Dark Blue: United States and occupied terretories
-Light Blue: American allies
-Red: Soviet Union and occupied terretories
-Skincolour: Soviet allies

Good idea :)

Just few suggestion about Commintern

The Comintern was officially dissolved on May 15, 1943, by Stalin.
The next organization was Coniform - a Soviet-dominated organization of Communist parties founded in September, 1947. So between 1943 - 1947 there was no pan-european communist organization - stalin wanted to show west allies that he won't make world revolution. Maybe calling it somhow else would be prepriete - for exampl Communist Countries Block

Czechoslovakia should be in Communist Countries Block (or Comintern - if you want to use this name)

And few questions
What about German Democratic Republic? as i understand it will be under USSR occupation? and West Germany would be under French, British, American Occupation? - Maybe you shoul consider making it the same with Austria? What about Berlin - Soviet or West Allies?
Do you want to change civics and technologies and other aspects of game?

And finally - Good Luck - I like XX cent. - SF Mods

Well, in reality, Czechoslovakia was ruled by an Anti-Western but Democratic regime for a very brief period before the communists came to power and after the Germans were driven away, a bit like Finland. I think a script should do the work: it has 1/2 chance to stay neutral and Democratic, 1/2 to turn Communist and align to the Soviets. Nevertheless, in all cases, Soviet troops are allowed to pass CS (and Finland) unless they declare eachother war.

Thank you about the suggestions anyway, I will change from Comintern to Cominform and Austria shall be kicked out.

Ok np :)
I'll play it with pleasure :)

Its cool that you gave possibility of choose to Czechoslovakia, my TCH tanks will reach Moscow;)

I think Yugoslavia, Turkey and Greece should be neutral. Why?
Yugoslavia won independence practically by own, same as Greece, wheres even after WW2 was civil war between commies and royalists(?). Tito never let start war because USSR want. The main battles between influnces of Communists and capitalists where commies lost were in further years in Turkey, Iran, Italy and Greece.

Lebanon and Syria? Maybe rather make not or make as one state. Saudi Arabia or Iran should be powerfull oil ally starting as neutral, but I dont know map...Japan will be occupied by USA? I think that also should be war between both Chinas, which will be neutral.

Remember that Turkey, Syria and Lebanon joined the allies very, very, very late but they did. Yugoslavia was after the war a staunch ally of the USSR for quite alot of time until the breakup early in the 50's, which would be unlikely if they were together at war same side which is the scenario.

Greece was liberated by UK, and thus automatically an Allied nation after the war.

Wikipedia:
"The first phase of the civil war took shape in 1942-1944. The left-wing and right-wing of the resistance movement fought each other in a fratricidal conflict to establish the leadership of the Greek resistance. In the second phase (1944) the ascendant socialists, in military control of most of Greece, were confronted by the returning Greek government in exile, which had been formed under Western Allied auspices in Cairo. In the third phase (commonly called the "Third Round" by the Communists) (1946-1949), a centre-right government, elected under abnormal conditions, fought against armed forces controlled by the Communist Party of Greece. Although the involvement of the Communist Party in the uprisings was universally known, the party remained legal until 1948, continuing to coordinate attacks from its Athens offices until proscription."

So if not neutral, give there many barbarians to some small posibility to take Greek cities. After this possibility commies or allies should capture

"Difficulties faced by Greece after World War II in quelling a communist rebellion and demands by the Soviet Union for military bases in the Turkish Straits prompted the United States to declare the Truman Doctrine in 1947. The doctrine enunciated American intentions to guarantee the security of Turkey and Greece and resulted in large scale U.S. military and economic support."

same to Turkey

Syria and Lebanon were countries with minor military power, my point wasnt againist their position in the world.

Yugoslavia was maybe Soviet ally, but thats all. Tito want independent Yugoslavia on any bloc and if allïes hadnt wanted continue re-estalbish monarchy here, he hadnt prefered Stalin after WWII, but definately he cant be defined as Stalin´s ally.

Yugoslavia was a Soviet ally until 1948, but in this scenario, both are at war on the same side; logically this means that differinces in opinion which would normally lead to the Stalin-Tito breakup 1948 wouldn't be looked upon much as winning the war with a (for Communists desireable outcome) would be much important.

Regarding Greece, I will think about that, perhaps reflected as a two side conflict like in China perhaps.

What about Berlin - Soviet or West Allies?

I sugguest to give West-Berlin to America.

The whole of Berlin will be Soviet, altough in reality, West Berlin was made an independant NATO client state through a treaty in the late 1940's, East-Berlin was incorperated into East-Germany.

I think Berlin should be Soviet or make 2 Berlins, but I prefer first possibility, because gameplay.

is there any progress here, it has a potential to become a good scenerio??

Its on hold now, I hope I can resume the project soon though! ;)

Allright boys, I think I will continue my project, I have some questions to be answered by creative minds:

1. Israel: considering Lebanon and Syria are American allies, what do you should with Israel?: 1. Israel will be Communist, like Stalin had hoped for shortly after Israel's creation. or 2. Lebanon and Syria will exit the Pro-American allies to fight with Israel, the winners (Arab countries or Israel) will then join the Pro-American allies
2. Greece: should its civil war be reflected like I have planned for China?

I think Greece would be to small on the map that there's no need to make civil war - just chose the winner and put few barbs :). You can make the same in poland (for about two years partisant fought with communist police and peoples army) and few other countries

Suggestion accepted, and what do you guys think about the civics I've planned?:

Goverment:
-Universal Suffrage
-Autocracy (Simply a leader holding dictatorial powers, but barely uses them, unlike a Police state)
-Police State (Totalitarianism)

Economic:
-Socialism
-Free market
-Corporatism

Society:
-Liberalism
-Collectivism
-Nationalism

Pluralism:
-Progressivism
-Centrism
-Conservatism

Thank you asioasioasio! I have changed it according to your ideas!

I would suggest something between Free Market and Socialism (of course the one represented by Marx and Engels) -> Keynsian Economics

about Government - i suggest (you don't have to agree- it's one of the possible way how it could be) - democratic, autoritharian and totalitarian

Okay, each playable nations needs at least 1 UU, any suggestions on that? (if you want to, make sure you also note the type, it must comply to the unit types I am planning for the mod)

News: Probs with techtree (see Problems with Techtree topic), got civics and new menu round. Just need to solve techtree probs, add some more units, fix some nations, add some leaders and the XML code will probably completed soon.

Here's UU list I would like to hear YOUR opinion on it:

Great Britain
-Centurion
-Lancaster Bomber

USSR and major allies
-MiG15
-IS3

USA and major allies that aren't mentioned here
-F86
-M48 Patton

France
-Panzer V
-Dassault Ouragon

I'm working on F86 Sabre :)

i'll post it in download section when it will be finished (i have some difficulties with this model it's one of the hardest unit i was working on (the worster was only katyusha) - probably i'll need remodel some parts - the tale looks crappy now)

Put also for Soviet and theire mayor allies T34 and IS-2 or IS-3

EDIT Panzer 5 - wasn't german (Panther?) I think you can use M47 Patton also for French
http://www.chars-francais.net/de1945a_nos_jours_a.htm

The Panzer V is indeed from the German drawing tables, and in real-life, some French divisions were equipped with the Panzer V's well into the 50's as a stop-gap. I think that, given the fact the Frenchies at that time hadn't their own suitable tank design despite they needed it so much, that they would have probably copied the Panzer V.

T34 was revolutionary indeed, but I'd think would rather have lost much of its glance by 1945-1953, and besides, during the Korean war, it was proven that the later types of the Sherman (like the Firefly, 76W and Jumbo) were actually superior to the T34.

Great you're working on the F86 Fighter! ;) I also need a Lancaster, Ouragon and M48. Graphics representing a generic AT-GUN, SP-AT, SP-AA, Nuclear Submarine and Nuclear Bomber could also be handy.

Check this thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=211724
and this http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=210314 - snafusmith made many very hq units - you need to ask him if you can use units from Modern Warfare. fo other units you should look in units graphics section - there's much of units there

Lancaster is already the default bomber in game

I indeed used many of snafussmith's mod, but I am still running short some models.

Thank you for that anyway, after I took a closer, it was clear it was unmistakenly a Lancaster!

OK, but you have many of them (for patton i used m60 version) - you can switch some units' models later - probably i could help you with some units that you want (needed for ww2 mod too) :)

Portugal was a founding member of nato it shouldn't start as neutral

The Nato was founded in 1949, but the mod however starts in 1945. Portugal will start as neutral, but perhaps will decide to take part in war sometime.

Cool scenario Kaiserguard ... let me know when there's a playable version out, I'd like to play it :)

Time to bump this thread; I would like to tell you guys that this mod is progressing very well, perhaps the time is almost right to release it, most of the civs are finished.