Some of you have complained about the variable sizes of my aircraft. Well now I have done some hard work and research and have devized a scaling system, both for fighters and bombers. This is how I will remake my old and new stuff. Some things grew, others shrank. Look closely and you can see some new looks on old favorites.

To keep people from asking about X,Y,Z. just download this Excel file and take a look at what I have. If it's highlighted, I have the model and I plan on doing something with it. So shut up. Some of you need to seriously brush up on your aircraft identification. You're bad at it.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/russianbombers.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/USbombers.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/otherbombers.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/UScargo.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/RussianCargo.jpg
Bombers/Large Aircraft
Tu-4 Bull
Tu-95 Bear
Tu-16 Badger AF
Tu-16 Badger Navy (or chinese)
Tu-16 Badger Egyptian
M-4 Bison
M-50 Bounder
Tu-22 Blinder
Tu-22M Backfire
T-4m Sotka
Tu-160 Blackjack
T-4MS

B-50 Superfortress
B-36 Peacekeeper
B-35 flying wing
B-49 in SEA camo
B-2 Spirit
B-47 Stratojet
B-52 Stratofortress (Vietnam camo)
B-52H
EB-52 Old Dog
B-58 Husler
B-70 Valkyrie
B-1b Lancer
Aurora
X-30 NASP

Super Lancaster
Shorts Sperrin
Valiant Nuke
Valiant conventional
Victor
Vulcan
Avro 730
Nimrod
E-3 Awacs
E-2 HawkEye

A-26K Invader
B-57 Canberaa
B-45 Tornado
B-51 Panther
Il-28 Beagle
Canberra
TSR2
U-2
TR-1
Global Hawk
Predator
A-3 Skywarrier
F-111 Aardvark

C-97 Stratocarrier
GlobemasterII
C-123 Provider
C-130 Hercules
A-400M
C-141 Starlifter
C-5 Galaxy
Airborne Lazer
Airbus 380xx
BWB
Kawasaki C-1

An-72 Coaler
An-12
An-70
An-22
An-22 military cammo
Il-76 civi
Il-86 military
An-124
An-225
Tu-144
Lun
A-90

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/RussianJets.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/USfighters.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/USnavy.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/OtherJets.jpg
Fighters
Mig-15 Fagot
La-15 Fantail
Mig-17 Fresco
Mig-19 Farmer
Mig-21 Fishbed
Mig-23 Flogger
Mig-27 FloggerG
Mig-25 Foxbat
Mig-31 Firefox
Mig-29 Fulcrum
Mig-144
Tu-128 Fiddler
Su-9
Su-9 Iraqi
Su-11 Fishpot
Su-15 Flagon
Su-22
Su-24 Fencer
Su-25 Frogfoot
Su-27 Flanker
Su-30
Su-30 Superflanker
Su-34 Finback
S-37 Berkut
Su-60 Ferret
Yak-38 Forger
Yak-141 Freestyle
Mig-31 Firefox (movie)

A-1 Skyraider
Fury
Panther
Cougar
A-4 Skyhawk
A-6 Intruder
EA-6B Prowler
A-7 Corsair2
F-8 Crusader
Cutlass
F4D Skyray
F-4 phantom (Navy)
A-5 Vigilante
F-14 Tomcat
FA-18 Hornet
FA-18E Super Hornet
F-117N Naval Stealth
A-12 Avenger2
XVF-12

A-37 Dragonfly
OH-1 Mohawk
OH-10 Bronco
P-80 Shooting Star
F-86 Sabre
F-84 Thunderjet
RF-84F Thunderstreak
A-10 Warthog
F-100 Super Sabre
F-101 Voodoo
F-102 Delta Dart
F-104 Starfighter
F-105 Thunderchief
F-105 Superchief
F-105 Isreali Superchief
F-106 Delta Dagger
XF-109 VTOL fighter
F-4 Phantom USAF
F-5 Freedom Fighter
F-20 Tigershark
F-29
F-15C Eagle
F-15E Strike Eagle
F-16 Falcon
F-16D Falcon
F-16XL
F-19 Nightowl
F-22 Raptor
F-23 Wraith
F-26 Stalma
F-117 Nighthawk
TR-3A Black Manta
F-12 Oxcart (SR-71)
Boeing Bird of Prey
F-32 JSF
F-35 JSF

Sea Fury
Wyvern
Supermarine Attacker
Seahawk
Gloster Meteor
Gloster MeterorNF
DH Vampire
DH Venom
DH Sea Vixen
Buccanear
Gloster Javelin
EE Lightning
F-4K Royal Navy Phantom
Avro Arrow
Hawker Hunter
Hawker Hawk
Sepecat Jaguar
Sepecat Jaguar Desert
Panavia Tornado
Eurofighter Typhoon
Harrier
SuperSylph

Ouragan
Sud Vautour
Mirage F-1
Mirage 2000
Mirage 2000 2 seater
F-7 Crusaer French navy
Super Etendard
Mirage IV
Mirage 4000
Rafale
Alize

Saab Lancer
Saab Tunnan
Saab Drakken
Saab Drakken metal
Saab Viggen
Saab Gripen

Tejas Light Weight Fighter (India)
Embraer Tucano
MB Impala

J-7
J-8 Finback
FC-1 Thunder
FCB-1 Flying Leopard.

I didn't know you did the Stratojet, the three aircraft left of it look unfamiliar too. Thanks

Terrific once again, and great to see the Valkyrie getting a work out, among others.

The prospect of having old units emerge once more, such as the Hustler, the Hunter, the Corsair II and the Crusader is truly great news. Your endeavours are appreciated and respected by this antipodean.

Great news, man
Thanks for keepin'all of us dreaming !

BTW in one of last rows of the preview you posted I see a plane that seems to me a BAe Hawk, am I right?
I did't know such a plane had ever been released (or planned) for Civ III. I would be very glad about that.

It is always nice to see improved versions and the new scale looks awsome. One aircraft I remember a really old release of that I dont see in the preview line up is the prowler/intruder. The prowler/intruder saw alot of years of service so it would be great to include in scenarios.

YES!!! i love it!!!

keep a close watch because I'm constantly updating the picture.

Ooo, I see an Avro arrow in there,:D

keep a close watch because I'm constantly updating the picture.
I'll do that and I will also eagerly await the release of these beauties.

I spy a C-5 and an XB-70! And is that a MiG 35?


Probably not the place or time to do this, but can you make an IL-76 Mainstay?

I spy a C-5 and an XB-70! And is that a MiG 35?




I guess the cargo plane in bottom row is a C-17 Globemaster III not a C-5 Galaxy ;)

are planning to release the units in one pack or step by step?

I spy a C-5 and an XB-70! And is that a MiG 35?


Probably not the place or time to do this, but can you make an IL-76 Mainstay?

I'm sure the answer to that depends alot upon if he has a model for it. I'm not positive but I would guess that he plans to do all the units he has models available for.

update 789.

a airbus 380, cool :)
it's incredible!!!

I like the SR71 blackbird next to the T4 (?).
Is there any reason why it is white not black? Or did I just mix it up and it's something different?

OMG that is one incredible pack of aircraft! My prayers are being answered by you. Are you a graphic guardian angel?
On the F-14 Tomcat does the model allow you to sweep and unsweep the wings for the animations or are the wings not seperated?

I like the previews very much. It took a second to realize how small the fighters had become, but after that, it made perfect sense. Very interesting collection!

Added a few more and rearanged everything.

Is it me or is there an EB-52 Megafortress? Nice to see the "Old Dog" here. ;)

Is it me or is there an EB-52 Megafortress? Nice to see the "Old Dog" here. ;)

McLanahan! :king:

(It's not just you; I see it too)

Yes it is the Old Dog.

Can I was browsing a What-If forum like I always do and one topic was about modernizing an old jet. So I decided to take it a step further and do some of my own renderings. Anyone (Besides WINTER & MarineCorps) know what it could be?


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/ThunderEagle.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/newrear.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/newside.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/newtop.jpg

Don't know... a beefed-up Thunderchief?

http://www.aviationtrivia.homestead.com/files/F_105.jpg

http://www.waffenhq.de/flugzeuge/f-105thunderchief-06.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Isreali.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/bank.jpg
hmmmm, that wasn't too hard was it?

Most impressive. I have been playing around with a few Super Thud ideas for my alt-Cold War/Dark Earth AH writings, and it is great to see a visualization of something along these lines. Good work.

This could be the ultimate generic jet fighter! Do you plan a version without markings?

some generic jet fighters would be very usefull!

OMG!!!!!! Have gotten many inspirations! These airplanes can conquer everything! !

It's a shame that at civ-scale most of the details get lost. This Thud is a finely modeled beast... love the detail on the ordnance.

ohh a new update ;)
i can't wait for the FIRST unit :scan:

How the heck did I manage to miss this thread?!?! I notice that you're making an A-10 Warthog :dance: Thank you very much! When (if) I get around to updating my epic game mod, I'll add this as a UU for the Americans.

Sorry no artist here, just a collector, and I feel these are excellant specimens and reputable to the superb artist who created them. A great exibit! Bravo!!


Edit: oh and I better add, I don't expect any of my requests granted down the line just for saying so :) )

Well I say I got a model of XXX... I gotsa model. If I don't have it, it doesn't exist.

:worship: Two things...

A. I thought the Thunderchief mod was the illegitimate child of an F-15 and an F-16, so that tells you how good my aircraft id skills are.

B. If we could only clone a few Wyrmshadows for just unit creation, imagine the possibilities...then again, we probably couldn't control them and they would take over the world or something.

Great units Wyrm, you are truly the God of Unit Creation.

:worship:

a black eagle from command & conquer - redalert2 :crazyeye: :crazyeye: :crazyeye:

No, a Berkut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDt9KY0xDHY

but they look quite similar :rolleyes:

:worship: Two things...

A. I thought the Thunderchief mod was the illegitimate child of an F-15 and an F-16, so that tells you how good my aircraft id skills are.

B. If we could only clone a few Wyrmshadows for just unit creation, imagine the possibilities...then again, we probably couldn't control them and they would take over the world or something.

Great units Wyrm, you are truly the God of Unit Creation.

:worship:

At first glance I thought the same thing..........the F-15 structures are the easiest part to pick out.

Taube 87 I'm sure the game designers of Red Alert 2 used historical references when making units for their fictional game. That would explain the similarities.

@BK, I used no F-15 parts. Only it's paint scheme. I used a Panavia Tornado's inlets and Jaguar wings

@ RGenRavenSeven, I have a very small butt, so there isn't much room for your lips. Please refrain from such extremes of adoration.

@T.A. Jones: glad to see someone's learning!!!!

I think, perhaps, the F-15 inlets were similar to a lot of aircraft of that era, just as good designs become common on different products everywhere. The only reason F-15 stood out to me is that the F-15 is the most recognizable aircraft of that design type, at least to an American. Maybe other aircraft would come to mind for other countries.

Parts from 3 planes that is even more creative than I imagined. Amazing how much similiarity exists between aircraft.
Anyway this will make a very interesting unit.

Wyrm, I think you got the scales nailed with the previews. I'll also say that each and every model looks amazing (especially the F-14)!

Guys. In the preview, first row towards the end, right before the black-stealth-fighter-thingy-plane, what is that? Something from Babylon 5? :crazyeye:

What the hell are you talking about?

Second picture. First row, all the way at the end, right above the SR71(although since its white it might not be an SR71). I think he wants to know what that is

Sorry, I didn`t look good enough. Its in the second picture, second row, 12th from the rigt. What is it? :)

F-26 Stalma (http://www.stavatti.com/f26/f26_homepage.html)

Thanks! A very interesting aircraft :)

jep, interesting design, but only one engine ;)
perhaps a sixth-generation generic fighter!

Probably dumb question: Is it very difficult and/or time-consuming to animate the same plane in two different colors? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, I just thought about different camo schemes on some planes (for example, an Iranian F-14 that could replace my humble color conversion).

Don't want to be a pain in the ass, Wyrm. I'm just wondering.

short answer: yes

I had an Iranian F-14 but the model kept crashing my comp.

what is that odd looking plane in the first pic, last row, last plane, next to the concord (at least i think its a concord)?

all of these look awesome by the way

what is that odd looking plane in the first pic, last row, last plane, next to the concord (at least i think its a concord)?

all of these look awesome by the way

google for "caspian sea monster" (a russian ekranoplan)
and it's NOT the concorde!!!
it's the russian counterpart, the tu-144 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-144)

What's that finger between my index finger and my ring finger? I can't recall what it's called. Perhaps someone can identify that one too.

Wyrm's 1st stage of annoyance: Sarcasm

What's that finger between my index finger and my ring finger? I can't recall what it's called. Perhaps someone can identify that one too.

Wyrm's 1st stage of annoyance: Sarcasm

ROFL, Wyrm that should become a classic quote. NavyDawg sounds like we both feel the tomcat has been too underestimated ;)

ROFL, Wyrm that should become a classic quote. NavyDawg sounds like we both feel the tomcat has been too underestimated ;)

I'd put it in my sig but I have a feeling it wouldn't be in there for very long.

google for "caspian sea monster" (a russian ekranoplan)
and it's NOT the concorde!!!
it's the russian counterpart, the tu-144 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-144)

Because it's so huge, and doesn't really fly, I'm thinking about turning it into a much smaller naval transport instead of an aircraft. I just wanted to show the scale of the thing. I also have another one, A-90, somewhere.
http://64.78.14.108/th/8746.jpg

added some new planes

I must say, well done!
I've been waiting for a MiG-19, MiG-25, Il-28, and B-47 for quite some time. Glad to see someone has them on the burner!

Coldwar modders owe you much.

perhaps stupid question but for what mod/scen are all this units made for? Some will certainly be very useful for TCW but esp the big amount of civil aircrafts will require a mod with special balancing (smthing like TBX...)

No scenario in particular.

and it's getting bigger ...

do you have any strategy how and when you will release it?

and it's getting bigger ...

do you have any strategy how and when you will release it?

Never ever ever ever ask me that question. My single biggest pet peeve s when poeple ask me about a time table.

Pay close attention. I added a few new models and did a lot of new texture work on formerly blank planes. I've been up all night and I need to sleep now.

Why you make so many planes I dont know...but I like em'. Hey what ever happened to SOE? I can't find it any where or rather I am too lazy to look for the link.

SOE is still being tested.

Where does Wyrmshadow put all these units? cant find them for download.

And I see the YF-23 still in blue :(

He puts them on his hard drive and doesn't release them until he is either begged and pestered beyond all belief and he finally gives in....or until some project like SOE gets released.

For those of you that are clueless, I posted lists identifying all the aircraft.

He puts them on his hard drive and doesn't release them until he is either begged and pestered beyond all belief and he finally gives in....or until some project like SOE gets released.

No thats not true. He releases alot of units, however the newest WWII ones he reserved to release with SOE before he releases them individually.

Why dont you take the time and count the number of units planned to be released with this modern aircraft pack then multiply that by the number of hours it take for all the animations.

He puts them on his hard drive and doesn't release them until he is either begged and pestered beyond all belief and he finally gives in....or until some project like SOE gets released.

You must be rather hard of sight. As it is stated clearly in wyrms's "Note that pestering Wyrmshadow is about as thoughtful as nagging Santa Claus.". So nagging him is clearly a stupid idea. And telling people to nag him will not help the situation.

I'm always updating this thing. I recently put together a large collection of ordinance, and I am currently FILLING out all my aircraft with maximum loadouts.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/russianbombers.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/USbombers.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/otherbombers.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/UScargo.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/RussianCargo.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/RussianJets.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/USfighters.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/USnavy.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/OtherJets.jpg

VERY promising!

Promising indeed. I'm as pleased as punch. (Now, if only I was as good looking as punch...) ;)

Promising indeed. I'm as pleased as punch. (Now, if only I was as good looking as punch...) ;)

"I wan't my mum"
"Yes, I can see how a maternaly outraged gorilla would be quite handy in a situation such as this."

I watch Blackadder every night. Seeing as how there are only 24 episodes + a few specials, that doesn't take very long... so I know my quotes.

I still have to finish what few ww1 things I have before I tactle the modern stuff. And I still need to make that stupid mech too.

the picture fills my screen in 1024*768
;) ;) ;)

That is one large, extensive, and comprehensive forthcoming release of modern aircraft. I'm sure every post WWII scenario will benefit from this.

"I wan't my mum"
"Yes, I can see how a maternaly outraged gorilla would be quite handy in a situation such as this."

I watch Blackadder every night. Seeing as how there are only 24 episodes + a few specials, that doesn't take very long... so I know my quotes.

I still have to finish what few ww1 things I have before I tactle the modern stuff. And I still need to make that stupid mech too.

Great taste as always. I'm only a once a week man; the every day slot is taken up by Victory at Sea at the moment.

Keep up the good work.

Who said they're on the tele? I get them all on my comp. Sometimes when I'm working on gfx I have the mp3's of the episodes running in the background.

Nice! See the YF-23 is shaded in :) and now you added a pedator uav too! I can't wait!

Great taste as always. I'm only a once a week man; the every day slot is taken up by Victory at Sea at the moment.

Keep up the good work.

Victory at Sea now thats a classic.

The swelling music and sonorous intonations of Leonard Graves are unmatched in grandeur. The thought of these lovely units is a nice one.

The preview images are gone... is everything ok?

no, still there. wierd.

okay I fixed the picture links.

Wow! These look fantastic:goodjob:

i'm very interested in the attack animation of your boeing al-1 ...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c2/250px-USAF_Airborne_laser.JPG

btw: i make a special tech icon the airborne-laser program

(the first one!)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//taubes%20tech%20icon%20pack%20two_4y2.jpg

Are any of these aircraft available for download anywhere? I can't see many of them in the unit library.

Are any of these aircraft available for download anywhere? I can't see many of them in the unit library.

You wouldn't see any of these in the library. They haven't been released yet.

I have started on the aircraft, Russians will be first. I have not yet decided how I will release them.

freude, freude!
a very good message after class exercise of 5 hours about the german reunification

First aircraft are posted here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5141012#post5141012)

please delete/ignore

The past few days I've been burning my model files to DVD's. I've seen the need to back up because I recently lost my 500gig drive that had all my music, movies and program backups..... yeah that was a fun day.
My model files that I've scrounged up all over the net have taken up 6x4.38gig DVD's. I just took a look at how large my Bryce files are..... of all my hundreds of units and animations:
94720 files
62.43 Gigs.
Yeah. That's a lot.

impressions from the life of a genius :king:
that's really a lot!

I woke up this morning in the mood to model. So I upgraded the B-47.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/newstratojet.jpg

They're all great, especially the BUFF.

Yes that Buff looks awsome!

Well there will be 3 versions of the B-52.... Vietnam era, modern, and the fictional EB-52 "Old Dog".

I just put all those planes together to show where I got the spare parts from to make the B-47 upgrade.

The way you mod those models is genius.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/perspective.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/back-1.jpg
What the hell did I just spend all night making? I don't know either. It started out as a XB-51 Panther. I don't know what it is now.

A very cool Black Ops aircraft? :)

i think this would be very usefull. perhaps as a generic ground attack jet of die '70s '80s.

i really like xour hybrid units! :D

Creativity triumphant :) Whatever it is, I want one for my modding. If I had to put a "speculative spin" on whatever it is, I'd consider it an early stealth fighter-bomber with the SR-71 as its progenitor.

Best,

Oz

Wow that is an interesting looking aircraft. I really like the interesting twin tail configuration.

It started out as the XB-51 Panther. Now only the tail and forwrd fuseladge remain. I was toying with it all nightm trying to find a way of cramming 3 engines into the back. Then I slapped on the intakes from a Viggen and wings of an A-6 and the canopy from an Albatross.
It's hard to tell, but this is an 85ft long aircraft, it's not small.

Well, I can tell its not small if I compare the cockpit to the rest of the plane :)

It would work well as a successor to the B-57 and B-66 as a light bomber, or a light medium at a pinch.
Perchance the B-72 Skymaster.

check out these ugly sisters
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/demons.jpg

They look very promising! - I mean, the A-10 Thunderbolt is possessed of a certain ... well, OK, maybe not beauty, but a certain majesty. I look forward to these, the top one especially. :)

Best,

Oz

Uh to be honest the left one looks really strange... missiles next ti the cockpit? and an external jet engine below (!!!) the cell.. I think this one will have heavy problems with it's landing gear...

Uh to be honest the left one looks really strange... missiles next ti the cockpit? and an external jet engine below (!!!) the cell.. I think this one will have heavy problems with it's landing gear...

Yeah, but personally I'm imagining a hypothetical, desperately stretched military with this being the equivalent of an Me-163 Komet - although I did wonder about those Sidewinders bolted onto the cockpit ...

Best,

Oz

Same arangement as the F-8 Crusader.

Huh. So it is. I'd've thought there'd be some issues in launching sidewinders past the canopy, but, then again, one of the hats I don't claim to wear is aerospace engineeer.

-Oz

please make a unmarked (i mean the USAF and the airforcelogo) version of your fictional unit.
perhaps you can integrate a chain gun (comparable to the a-10 thunderbolt II) :shifty:
so you can use the empty space under the cockpit.

(and on suggestion at last: try to stretch the cockpit)

i can't wait to see your next projects :yup:

Huh. So it is. I'd've thought there'd be some issues in launching sidewinders past the canopy, but, then again, one of the hats I don't claim to wear is aerospace engineeer.

-Oz

Yes. I thought of saying something when Wyrm posted the picture but I figured that wyrm knew what he was doing.

p.
perhaps you can integrate a chain gun (comparable to the a-10 thunderbolt II) :shifty:


I actually own one of those 30MM shells. Pretty cool.:D

please make a unmarked (i mean the USAF and the airforcelogo) version of your fictional unit.
perhaps you can integrate a chain gun (comparable to the a-10 thunderbolt II) :shifty:
so you can use the empty space under the cockpit.

(and on suggestion at last: try to stretch the cockpit)

i can't wait to see your next projects :yup:

I don't understand to which aircraft are you talking about? The one on the bottom already has a 30mm Avenger and is finished and posted. I will not add a gun to the larger one on top.

Uh to be honest the left one looks really strange... missiles next ti the cockpit? and an external jet engine below (!!!) the cell.. I think this one will have heavy problems with it's landing gear...

It had no such problems because it was a real aircraft. What you see there is just my upgrade for it.
http://www.fsplanet.com/images4/xb51pantp.jpg
http://www.thenorthspin.com/photos_official_usaf_pastjet/246.jpg

I guess some people need to peruse aircraft literature ;)

:lol: ...this is very amusing! :D

Okay so all my doubts have been cleaned out....
But this beast nevertheless looks quite special....

My modem got zapped last friday night so I've been incommunicado for a few days.

Here's what I have been working on.

1950's Luftwaffe upgrades.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/germany50s.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/owl1.jpg

And a stealth B-58
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Husher1.jpg

Interesting stealth aircraft.

Those look fantastic :thumbsup: Leave it to you to go beyond Luft '46!

Best,

Oz

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/JSFdeath.jpg

"And that is why they call me Bender the Magnificent"

- Bender Bending Rodriguez

That some interesting stuff there. That unrendered explosion in the top right reminds me of a spider.

Ah. It's my favorite version. The B version for the Marine Corps. So are you also going to be making a A and C version?

Hi,
I am new to this stuff but your new graphics are absolutely amazing wyrmshadow.
Could tell me how to install your new units into my game as I have not a clue?
Also is there any complete game that you would recomend to download as I just have civ III and the conquest expansion pack and have beat it 3x and was looking for more units, bigger map (Hopefully the world map) and for the game to be more difficult. Any assistance would be greatly appriciaed by anybody that knows.
Thanks again!

To install new units, look in the tutorial section.
To play a mod with many more units, see the alpha version of my mod.
It includes many of Wyrmshadow's units

To install new units, look in the tutorial section.
To play a mod with many more units, see the alpha version of my mod.
It includes many of Wyrmshadow's units

... And welcome to CFC!

-Oz

Thanks for the welcome! I never knew this many people liked this game like I do. I thought I was crazy being 25 with 3 kids and still wanting to play this game.
Where is the tutorial section?

Here you go Tutorials References and Guides (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=57)

Nope, you're just crazy for being 25 with 3 kids. I'm 26 with no kiddies, by design.

I'm 26 with no kiddies, by design.

... Well, none that you know of, anyway ... ;)

I'm 26 with no kiddies, by design.
I wasn't aware you were born with some missing part of your anatomy.

Allright, going off topic within my own thread but..

Who the hell can afford a bunch crumb crunchers nowadays? Or run the risk of paying child support for 18 years. No Steph, I have no children because I planned on having no kids. Because of my actions and history, there is a zero percent chance of a big headed ankle biter out there with half my DNA running around.

Not even close to being done. Still have a lot of internals to put in like figuring out how the landing gear will fit. I'm planning on making this a carrier plane. Compare it with the original.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/compare1.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/compare2.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/compare3.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/compare4.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/trans.png

You're looking at about 12 hours of work.

engine, guns from B-17
Props from B-29
Canopy, cockpit, upper fuselage, radiator inlet and spinner from P-51
lower wings (flipped upside down) from a XP-56 Black Bullet

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/machineGuns.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/trasparancy.png

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/8.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/9.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/10.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/trans1.png

I did some measurments:
L: 32'1"
W:30'8"
H:11'11"

Trouble with the shape of the wings, placement of the gear and the rudders and the fact that there is a big spinning propeller in the rear... it's hard to put any drop tanks bombs or rockets.

I love the 1950s Luftwaffe planes!! Have they been uploaded to the forum yet?

i've never seen such a great navy fighter!

Looks brilliant! - As for the landing gear, may I recommend a four-pointer? - i.e., a 1-2-1 combo of wheels? Or are you going to try to put in a carrier (damn, I forget the proper term) carrier wire-catch as well?

Best,

Oz

Looks brilliant! - As for the landing gear, may I recommend a four-pointer? - i.e., a 1-2-1 combo of wheels? Or are you going to try to put in a carrier (damn, I forget the proper term) carrier wire-catch as well?

Best,

Oz
That would be tailhook not to be confused with the tailhook scandal.

At first I was wondering why does it have all the shooty gunz on its butt... but it turnes out its the front end? :dubious:

At first I was wondering why does it have all the shooty gunz on its butt... but it turnes out its the front end? :dubious:

Which is what gave me the idea for naming this individual plane.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/front.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/back.png

this is now officially an obsession.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/NW.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/N.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/NE.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/E.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/SE.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/S.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/SW.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/W.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/Back-1.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/Front-1.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/Side.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/Top.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/flypast.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/flypast2.png

Looks great! Wrooooooooom!

Like the nose art.... or is "nose" a misnomer? :lol:

And what a beautiful obsession indeed! :)

-Oz

I've been working at this all day. Originally it had a much longer nose with a ball for the radome... looked too much like a rat.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/Jet3.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/fold1.jpg
Can't have a navy fighter without folding wings!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/fold2.jpg
plenty of room in the back for a rocket assisted intercept boost.

plenty of room in the back for a rocket assisted intercept boost.

Or - given the folding wings - a boost from, say, a carrier jump ramp. Regardless, looking mighty fine :thumbsup:

-Oz

I've been working at this all day. Originally it had a much longer nose with a ball for the radome... looked too much like a rat.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Devastator/Jet3.jpg


Now it looks like some a fighter from a scifi movie. Though I'll be dammned if I can recall the name of the movie.

I like it, it can be used as a what if fighter which is lacking in the current units.

#1. Get home from work, tired.
#2. Fix myself 2 Jack%cokes with a very strong pour.
#3. Take a long hard and honest look at what I made.
#4. Give honest opinion. See below

F! this P.O.S.

It's an Abomination. It doesn't so much as fly as repell the ground with its ugliness. I'm not going to finish this because it belongs more in a bad Japanese anime than in my own stable with my own lable.
To quote R. Lee Ermey in his role as Gunny Hartman "my God, you're ugly enough to be a modern art masterpiece"
There's few things that I dislike more (about inanimate objects) than shoddy workmanship. Doubly so when it's my own and no one is brave enough to step on my toes. I worked all day on this and the more time I put in the worse it got. I've seem more impressive things flushed down my bowl in than this.

I'm starting over.

#5. Make Nipponese jets in the mean time.

Actually, I may have some use for these aircrafts

If it's at all heartening, I like the beast so far, even if it's most likely an aerodynamic impossibility. Yes, it has an anime sensibility, but so what? It looks very cool ...

... That was just a warm-up for a parable about the Spartans. Supposedly, whenever a truly important decision was required, the elders (or whomever) would debate the matter sober until they reached a decision. Then they would re-debate it while rip-roaring drunk, and would repeat the process until sober and drunk decisions were the same.

Not that I'm encouraging alcohol for decision making ... :mischief:

Also, it's much cooler than it's kissing-cousin, the Curtiss XP-55 Ascender.

Best,

Oz

EDIT/PS I just scanned the Luft'46 pages and was amazed at hiow many aircraft designs followed the basic plan you've laid out, albeit with only two wings. We all know you're a perfectionist (a "disease" I share) yet this just seems like too cool a project to dump.

-O.

Well I've already made the Ascender a while ago.
Alcohol has some great effects on me. Instead of being grumpy or annoyed all the time, it lets me lose my inhibitions. I actually get a little happy. Something else I noticed: it puts me in the mood to not mind boring labor such as make civ units.

So9 where should we send the Alcohol? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo_l-WlFtEQ

The folding wings are a nice touch. Looks like a landing insect. I like it. :)

Quite impressive. I like the way the wings fold up, and the overall style of the beast. It also looks like you've addressed the landing gear problem nicely.

Best,

Oz

I'm on a real Crimson Skies kick right now. I spent all day today making the Brigand from scratch. The Devastator someone else made and I just modified. This one is all my own.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/brigand.png

Looks great :thumbsup: I'm unfamiliar with Crimson Skies - how many beasts are there in this particular flying circus?

Best,

Oz

That looks really good, did you model it in C4D? Ozzy the crimson sky universe is very interesting and unfortunately they didnt make the newest games for the PC only the X-box.

Ozzy the crimson sky universe is very interesting and unfortunately they didnt make the newest games for the PC only the X-box.

Thanks for the info - now all we have to do is wait for enough Wyrmshadow creations for a mod. ;)

Best,

Oz

The way he is constantly creating new and wonderful units I'm sure it is only a matter of time.
This is the storyline "The year is 1937. The United States has shattered under the combined weight of the Great Depression, regional Prohibition and mounting isolationism. The transcontinental railroad and the budding highway system have become useless as they now cross hostile borders. Commerce and trade leave the ground as air travel now becomes a vital lifeline connecting allied countries -- and a national obsession -- while daring air pirates and valiant air militias battle for control of the skies. Giant zeppelins crisscross the skies, carrying both passengers and cargo. It is a time of gunship diplomacy and airship piracy. It is the age of the fighter pilot and a time of daredevil adventure and sinister intrigue. It is the world of Crimson Skies… "

@BK, yes infact I did it all in C4D. I'm starting to get the hang of modeling. Since I didn't have ANY cross sections or profiles to work from, it was all guess work. Still not good enough to learn how to animate in it, but its a powerful modeler, if you know how to use it.

@Oz, it's like Indiana Jones, in the air.

Quick lesson on math and modeling:
You have a point in space, XYZ coordinates. You have 2 points, connect them with a line. 3 points in space and you have a triangle floating in space. 4 points and suddenly you have a triangular pyramid with 4 sides. Modeling something is all about putting points in the proper place and connecting them with lines. And the ease of doing all that with some artistry depends on the program that you use.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/screen.png
It's all points.

Hmmmm, that looks to be easier than Blender in some respects. That is what I do when I create a model. Essentially, I just start with a dot make another dot, connect the dots to other dots, make a face, until I have a model of something. I'll have to try C4D to see how easy it is. What about coloring the models how easy have you found that?

I don't do any texture work within C4D because I haven't figured that out yet. I've recently tried using UVmapper. Goto Bjornlo's turtorials for a link. It's a complicated process that I've only just now started to learn how to do. It's what I used for the upgraded Devastator on the previous pages.

For lack of a better place and since this is my thread; I thought I'd write this little tidbit while my planes rendered. These are some of the constant stream of questions and PM's I get on this forum. I thought I'd take the time and give a blanket answer for all as I encounter them.

If you think these are funny, congradulations: You have a sense of humor.
If you find them offensive, good. It means you are a half-wit and deserve ridicule.


1st Edition of the Civfanatics
Newbish to Wyrm Pocket Dictionary


Hey Man, you left out unit X
Translation:"It's not enough that you just made several dozen (or hundreds) of units but you left out my favorite eccentric piece of military hardware. Shame on you."
Answer: I either do not have a model for X, or deemed it too rare or uninteresting to devote time to making one myself. If you could cough one up, I would gladly make X for you. If you can't then quickly get lost.


Have you ever thought about making stuff for Civ4?
Translation:" I'm an ignorant boob and have no idea about the different hardware and knowledge needed to make grafix for 2 different games. I'm a consumer and therefore produce nothing but opinion and demand.
Answer: I do not play Civ4. I have played Civ4 and did not like it. I do not have the neccessary specialized software to produce grafics for Civ4. I have too many projects for Civ3 to start over.I have said on many occasions that I will not make anything for Civ4. You're new here arent you?


You're super awesome! Can you make X?
Translation: Now that I have sufficiently greesed the wheels of beauracracy by obsequeious flattery.... Can you drop all your plans and make X for absolutely nothing in return for you valuable time? I have been a member of this forum for 5 years and have a whopping 7 posts, but I'M A BIG FAN! If you make this for me then you will never hear from me again.
Answer:
1. Search the forum. I've done over 1000 units. I've probably already made it. Don't be lazy, I won't search for you.
2. It's on my a To-Do list after "roller-skating green baboon ninja", be patient.
3. No.

You should make a scenario with all your units.
Translation: It's not enough that you have spent years making these grafix, but now I want you to spend just as much time trying to incorporate them into a massive MOD because im too lazy/stupid to do it myself.
Answer:There are other poeple that make scenarios. I just make units. Człowiek leniwy.


You don't have be be so mean
Translation: I'm new and this guy scares me. I have no grasp of wit, sarcasm or the blatant antipathy directed at me. I am thin skinned and my fragile feelings get hurt at the drop of a hat. I'm telling mommy (Moderator).
Answer: Yes I do. It keeps the rabble in their place.


Wyrm's ignoring me???
Translation: I'm a dumba$$ who constantly annoys or angers Wyrmshadow. I am now on Wyrm's Ignore list and my posts cannot be seen by him.
Answer: I thought I heard a noise. Someone say something?


What would it take for you to make X?
Translation:Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!
Answer: I have deeply deeply personal reasons why I don't like suck-ups. Meet me halfway somehow and then we'll talk. Otherwise you have to wait for your random unit X to be made like everyone else.


That unit is really awesome. Could do it again but this time in a different color?
Translation: Yes I'd like to super-size my fries.
Answer: If I was going to make another version I'd make it obvious and put forth the hard work of researching and texturing another version. Otherwise, don't make me kill you.

Can you teach me how to make units like you do?
Translation: Not only am I too ignorant to search for an entire sub forum dedicated to Tutorials, I also missed the links in your signature to videos explaining how you make your units. I know next to nothing about computer grafix and have zero artistic ability. Is it easy?
Answer: No. You're not the first. I've wasted too much time on too many poeple for too few rewards. Young Skywalker must prove he is worthy before he can be taught the ways of the Force.

How do I add your units to my game?
Translation: I have no idea what Tutorial means.
Answer: (sound of crickets chirping)


Could you make your units match the ones in the game?
Translation: I have no idea what quality means.
Answer: Firaxis sux.


OMG!! ROFL KEWL!!! (I write all comments in smiles and AOL txt phrases)
Translation: I'm a child that shouldn't be allowed near adults until my acne clears and my testes drop.
Answer: (ignore)

OMG, this is so kewl. My comment consists of a 3 page essay about the history of this really awesome unit. I'm excited!
Translation: I have no life and computer sprites make me happy. I feel the need to share my encyclopedic knowledge of this unit and exactly how I plan on implementing it into my super-duper fantastic and massive 30 gig mega-unit scenario encompasing 10,000 years of human history and magic.
Answer: Get a crowbar. Pry yourself away from the computer. Find a female from the same species and get laid, now. I grow tiresome of hearing your stories every time I post a unit.

Oh wow, this unit is amazing. I've been waiting a long time for this.
Translation: I'm new here. I don't know about the downloads database, or about some extremely LARGE collections of units organized into single threads. I have no idea that this unit was already made by someone else.
Answer: I'm insulted that you've ignored my work.

Have any amphibian plane units been made?
All the planes are listed by their names and I have no idea what an amphibian plane would be called. (probably something like an XQ324-1Z or something*)
*sorry, a pet peeve of mine is when aircraft unit makers call their airplane by it's real name. I guess that's okay for the like two people out there who know the difference between a "MiG-15" and a "YF-23", but for the rest of us can you call them "WW2 fighter jet, USA" or "modern bomber, Israel" so we know how to use them.
Translation: "I'm retarded"
Answer: Wow, just wow.

What stats should this unit have?
Translation: none needed
Answer: I don't care what you give it. OMG I don't care.

Dealing with newbs:
1. If he's young and about to graduate to adulthood.. remind him he's still a child. Teenager's hate that. Hormones made them think they are strong, mature and smart. They are none of those 3.
2. Best way of dealing with a troll... don't. They thrive on attention. Ignore them and they lose interest.


Thread Necromancy:
This is a very typical newbie mistake where they miraculously use the search function of the forum, and find a favorite subject that hasn't been commented on in 1,2,3 or ever 4 years. Well, this looks like job for the brilliant witicisms of this generation's Oscar Wilde.... It's SuperNewb to the rescue.

"This is really cool. I plan on using it"

No one cares. Infact, we don't care so much about your opinion on this matter than many of us want to crucify you as an example for other dummies. It's a HUGE pet peeve of the other 99.9% of the forum to see long dead threads being commented on and pushed to the top of the forum. If it were up to me, I'd give warnings/infractions according to the severity of the resurrection and how useless the post was. Poeple will only pay attention if you punish them. And Newbs don't pay attention to warning signs. Why punish? Well resurrecting a 4 year dead thread is atleast as annoying as your average troll posting, that's why.

Bookmark this post, more to come as I encounter them.

Very good. :lol: Been a while since I laughed this hard.

:lol:

I've got another one for you:

Could you make your planes smaller to go hand-in-hand with the vanilla planes?

I don't do any texture work within C4D because I haven't figured that out yet. I've recently tried using UVmapper. Goto Bjornlo's turtorials for a link. It's a complicated process that I've only just now started to learn how to do. It's what I used for the upgraded Devastator on the previous pages.
Do you have bodypaint for C4D? I believe that is what is used for texturing although I could be wrong. It might be easier than using UV mapper as a seperate program.
BTW I really enjoyed

1st Edition of the Civfanatics
Newbish to Wyrm Pocket Dictionary

For lack of a better place and since this is my thread; I thought I'd write this little tidbit while my planes rendered. These are some of the constant stream of questions and PM's I get on this forum. I thought I'd take the time and give a blanket answer for all as I encounter them.

1st Edition of the Civfanatics
Newbish to Wyrm Pocket Dictionary

Comment: "Hey Man, you left out unit X"
Translation:"It's not enough that you just made several dozen (or hundreds) of units but you left out my favorite eccentric piece of military hardware. Shame on you."
Answer: I either do not have a model for X, or deemed it too rare or uninteresting to devote time to making one myself. If you could cough one up, I would gladly make X for you. If you can't then quickly get lost.

Comment:"Have you ever thought about making stuff for Civ4?"
Translation:" I'm an ignorant boob and have no idea about the different hardware and knowledge needed to make grafix for 2 different games. I'm a consumer and therefore produce nothing but opinion and demand.
Answer: I do not play Civ4. I have played Civ4 and did not like it. I do not have the neccessary specialized software to produce grafics for Civ4. I have too many projects for Civ3 to start over.I have said on many occasions that I will not make anything for Civ4. You're new here arent you?

Comment:"You're super awesome! Can you make X?"
Translation: Now that I have sufficiently greesed the wheels of beauracracy by obsequeious flattery.... Can you drop all your plans and make X for absolutely nothing in return for you valuable time? I have been a member of this forum for 5 years and have a whopping 7 posts, but I'M A BIG FAN! If you make this for me then you will never hear from me again.
Answer:
1. Search the forum. I've done over 1000 units. I've probably already made it. Don't be lazy, I won't search for you.
2. It's on my a To-Do list after "roller-skating green baboon ninja", be patient.
3. No.

Comment: "You should make a scenario with all your units."
Translation: It's not enough that you have spent years making these grafix, but now I want you to spend just as much time trying to incorporate them into a massive MOD because im too lazy/stupid to do it myself.
Answer:There are other poeple that make scenarios. I just make units. Człowiek leniwy.

Comment: "You don't have be be so mean"
Translation: I'm new and this guy scares me. I have no grasp of wit, sarcasm or the blatant antipathy directed at me. I am thin skinned and my fragile feelings get hurt at the drop of a hat. I'm telling mommy (Moderator).
Answer: Yes I do. It keeps the rabble in their place.

Comment: "Wyrm's ignoring me???"
Translation: I'm a dumba$$ who constantly annoys or angers Wyrmshadow. I am now on Wyrm's Ignore list and my posts cannot be seen by him.
Answer: I thought I heard a noise. Someone say something?

Comment: "What would it take for you to make X?"
Translation:Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!
Answer: I have deeply deeply personal reasons why I don't like suck-ups. Meet me halfway somehow and then we'll talk. Otherwise you have to wait for your random unit X to be made like everyone else.

Comment: "That unit is really awesome. Could do it again but this time in a different color?"
Translation: Yes I'd like to super-size my fries.
Answer: If I was going to make another version I'd make it obvious and put forth the hard work of researching and texturing another version. Otherwise, don't make me kill you.

Comment: "Can you teach me how to make units like you do?"
Translation: Not only am I too ignorant to search for an entire sub forum dedicated to Tutorials, I also missed the links in your signature to videos explaining how you make your units. I know next to nothing about computer grafix and have zero artistic ability. Is it easy?
Answer: No. You're not the first. I've wasted too much time on too many poeple for too few rewards. Young Skywalker must prove he is worthy before he can be taught the ways of the Force.

Comment: "How do I add your units to my game?"
Translation: I have no idea what Tutorial means.
Answer: (sound of crickets chirping)

Comment: "Could you make your units match the ones in the game?"
Translation: I have no idea what quality means.
Answer: Firaxis sux.

Comment:"OMG!! ROFL KEWL!!! (I write all comments in smiles and AOL txt phrases)"
Translation: I'm a child that shouldn't be allowed near adults until my acne clears and my testes drop.
Answer: (ignore)

Comment:"OMG, this is so kewl. My comment consists of a 3 page essay about the history of this really awesome unit. I'm excited!"
Translation: I have no life and computer sprites make me happy. I feel the need to share my encyclopedic knowledge of this unit and exactly how I plan on implementing it into my super-duper fantastic and massive 30 gig mega-unit scenario encompasing 10,000 years of human history and magic.
Answer: Get a crowbar. Pry yourself away from the computer. Find a female from the same species and get laid, now. I grow tiresome of hearing your stories every time I post a unit.

Bookmark this post, more to come as I encounter them.

:lol: This should be "stickied" - Oh, and "Człowiek leniwy" ... ?


Best,

Oz

..my super-duper fantastic and massive 30 gig mega-unit scenario encompasing 10,000 years of human history and magic.
Fortunately, there is no magic in my mod, so I know it's not directed to me :D

If my translation does not fail:

Człowiek leniwy = Lazy SOAB ;)

Fortunately, there is no magic in my mod, so I know it's not directed to me :D

No, Civgeneral would do that.

Fortunately, there is no magic in my mod, so I know it's not directed to me :D

No, Civgeneral would do that.

@Ares, actualy its just person, not SOAB.

1st Edition of the Civfanatics
Newbish to Wyrm Pocket Dictionary...

Very nice Wyrm, but for a reason I can only imagine, the translation of your answers is missing. :D

Ah, ok, lazy person then. My polish translator will be shot immediately. ;)

Ah, ok, lazy person then. My polish translator will be shot immediately. ;)

May be a Polish translator isn´t the right instrument for this kind of translation. :)

thread should be called "Wyrm Aerospace Unlimited" lol

I think every possible plane has been made

But if you ever want to do another modern plane, there is an interesting concept for future US bomber: http://www.afa.org/magazine/aug2007/0807bomber.asp that might interest you

thread should be called "Wyrm Aerospace Unlimited" lol

I think every possible plane has been made

But if you ever want to do another modern plane, there is an interesting concept for future US bomber: http://www.afa.org/magazine/aug2007/0807bomber.asp that might interest you

Seen it in Popular Mechanics years ago. Take your pick from the Aurora, or the National Aerospace plane in my USAF,USN unit thread.

@Dictionary. If anyone doubts as to where I get some of these comments and questions, there are 2 places you can go.
#1. go search for comments within the downloads database.
#2. Specifically, go to my SOE units threads. Look for people that have a small amount of total posts. There you will find the dumbest questions/comments. I've made the most units out of anyone on this forum, simple statistics would show that I would attract the most dumb comments. And boy do I ever. I had one guy this week ask how to convert an RAR file into someting Civ compatible. Other's just make a single dumb question and dissapear forever, not even acknowledge that there was a response.

What am I making?
Top
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/Top.jpg

Side
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/Side.jpg

"Orthographic"
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/ortho.jpg

Here are your clues:
1. It IS a plane
2. This is only 1/2 of it.. the centerline is on the left side. I've only started ploting the points for the outline so you can guess the general shape.
3. Big one... I've previewed this already somewhere...but I hated the cheapo crappy model so much that I really wanted to make my own.

I guess no one likes to play the guessing game huh?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/wire.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/Dorito.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/Dorito2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/Dorito1.jpg

oh... A12? the one that was never made?

You are really becoming quiete the modeller.

Yup. There wasn't one available online.. so I spent about 8 hours making one from scratch.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/Plane/Doritos.jpg
I made these in the colors of the only countries that could afford the $165mil pricetag.

I like seeing you make your own designs, I enjoy creativity and I think your recent stunt of planes proves you are indeed an artist Wyrmshadow.

PDMA and flaming deleted.

Now if this thread could return to a discussion of Modern Aircraft Previews I think we'd all be much happier.

Wyrm, cool it.

I'm back betches. All US aircraft are done. I don't have any more modern models.

Glad you`re back! Happy New Year!

Glad you`re back! Happy New Year!

I'll double that sentiment!

Swedes are next
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/1705/Sweden.jpg

THose are incredible.

Whats with the red and white viggen(?)

*Sigh*

I guess I'll have to rewrite the program to convert American Conquest units I lost with the virus attack on my HD... So I can convert the units from Gexozoid Napoleonic mod, and finish the Scandinavians...

Well, I hope making all these units will take Wyrm at least a few days so I have time to do that this week end, but I'm not sure... The man is to fast...

Well, when I'm not working... I have nothing but time on my hands and I'm just bored. I've already watched my entire movie collection several times over... I can't go out and party because I lost my ID and I'm waiting for me new one to come (along with my new ATM card that I've been waiting for since October) and after spending December doing absolutely nothing... I'm incredibly bored. But the only thing more boring than not animating, is waiting for the computer to animate. The fun part is in the putting together, not everything after that.

@Steph.. I took a look at your unit pages and it seems you have a lot of updating to do.

Well, I know it's not so easy because the files are big, but the offer to run the rendering process for you still stands.

Yesterday I did some updates. I updated the A-4 and the F-18 for the US.

But I think that's the only one I could do at the moment.

Did I missed some of your units??

These Swedish planes are wonderful! The red/white one, is that the Austrian one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Saab_Draken.jpg/800px-Saab_Draken.jpg

Yes, that's the Ostarrichi commemorative paint scheme: 1,000 years of Austria.

You can't see it, and you should all be grateful for that 'cause it ain't pretty,
but I'm doing my Megahappy dance right now. :goodjob:

Well, you'll be even happier to know that my own Viggen is 90% done and I have a bunch of Gripens waiting to be made, too.

All the "swedish" jets are done and post. Now it's time for me to do their export customers.

This is what I have for South America.. sofar its mostly my old Argentine planes redone.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/1705/SouthAmerica.png

plus I did this over the holidays.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/StrategicBomber2.jpg

I really like that although at first glance it appears that a B-52 was unfaithfull with a Lancaster and had offspring.

Cool the brandnew B-53 ;)
I really like it... Also a Avacs version of it would be a cool fictional addition

BTW: what units do you plan to redo?

Well I been workin in a coal mine
Goin down down
Workin in a coal mine
Whew about to slip down
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Netz.jpg

and on a completely unrelated note.. Does this picture make any sense?
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/contrails.jpg

Clearly someone did a handbrake turn...

It is most likely an Israeli plane of some sort I reckon.

Is something like this possible with thrust vectoring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust_vectoring)?

Still working.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Sufa.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/02.jpg
I did the textures myself.

Nice job on the textures. Amazing what changes they have made to the venerable F-16. The F-16I also has the IAI-built removable conformal fuel tanks added. The F-16I is called Sufa (Storm) by the IDF/AF.

I really like isreali desert cammies.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Lavi.jpg
I didn't like original dark colors so I completely redid them.

This is some awesome stuff...

I really like isreali desert cammies.

I didn't like original dark colors so I completely redid them.

That's what I did, too with that model.

not aircraft but some other little projects I've been working on this week.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/supershermanTD.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/jagdSherman.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Whif/Stug.jpg

Nice job on the textures. Amazing what changes they have made to the venerable F-16. The F-16I also has the IAI-built removable conformal fuel tanks added. The F-16I is called Sufa (Storm) by the IDF/AF.

Did you ever see what the Isreali Army did to the T-54/55 tank? There were two versions. One was converted into an infantry carrier. The other was modified with a US 105 mm main gun, US optics, and a gun stabilisation system, and other US technology. Isreal is really inovative when it comes to working with what they have to augment their forces. The have some really nice indiginous technology too.

Did you ever see what the Isreali Army did to the T-54/55 tank? There were two versions. One was converted into an infantry carrier. The other was modified with a US 105 mm main gun, US optics, and a gun stabilisation system, and other US technology. Isreal is really inovative when it comes to working with what they have to augment their forces. The have some really nice indiginous technology too.

Yes as a matter of fact I have. You are correct Israel is very innovative and I would say that is a good thing considering their position in that region of the world.

Wyrm looks like you are modifying an M-3 Grant to be both a tank destroyer and a SPAG.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/1705/Isreal.png
I've got a lot of work cut out for me this week. Everything you see is ready to be animated.

israel is coming...
the f-16s looks really great in this camo. these tools are very usefull for a near eastern scenario.
thx for your work!!!

mfg

What can I say... looks like soon y'all will have both mine and Wyrm's Israeli aircraft units to choose from. :D

Been busy animating these last night. I'll wait until I do UK before I do a french jaguar.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/1705/France.png

Ah! Time for a new update of my mod!!!
Oh...

Not yet uploading in the download database...
...
Entering impatient waiting mode.

I was up all night rendering 24 aircraft on 2 computers. I'm tired and need to sleep. I don't feel like converting them into civ units right now.

That's why I'm waiting. I'm at the office anyway and I couldn't mod right now.

I'll download them and update when they'll be ready. Take your time.

Absolutely lovely and welcomed preview.

On the day I was born, the nurses all gathered 'round
And they gazed in wide wonder, at the joy they had found
The head nurse spoke up, and she said leave this one alone
She could tell right away, that I was bad to the bone

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/Civstuff/aircraft/India.png

That's why I'm waiting. I'm at the office anyway and I couldn't mod right now.

I'll download them and update when they'll be ready. Take your time.

I hope the government doesn't find out that I'm using one of their laptops to build models with......wait a minute......you all know now, :ar15:



Just playin

looks like some indian aircrafts :thumbsup:
since i saw the marut i'm really a fan of the iaf ...

Wyrmshadow's lesson in how to Rice up a tank. Or as I like to call it.. Polishing a Turd.

Steps:
1. Purchase a complete POS of a tank.
2. Strip it down to the bare frame and paneling.
3. Spend 4x the amount of money for the initial purchase on shiny new parts that have no business near it.
4. Slap everything on with crappy welds and duct tape.
5. Cruise the country side and pick up some hot peasant chicks. Oohhhh Yeahhh..
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/PRI/T-34-100.jpg

*All 'new' parts in white.

No, Civgeneral would do that.
Well, not anymore. I don't have the time nor the paitance to create a mod (Plus the mod was too time consuming). Plus I have other issues in RL to take care of now adays.

Pimp my tank looks like tons of fun!

One questions as I couldn't find it via the search function: Did you allready release/finish the british V-bombers (Victor, Valiant and Vulcan) if not where are they on your to do list?

UK comes after I finish the Indian Air Force.

Good work on your Soviet-Irish tank chimera!

Well there is also this monster
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/Wyrmshadow3/PRI/IS-2.jpg

Nice "Dublin Stalin". :)

I haven't gotten around to modifying the JS-3 to how I like it. It's a massively detailed model so I've put it off for months. How are my International F-4's?

In the production line. I'll see what I can do over the weekend. :)

I hope there are some German version in it.

A German phantom would be nice. I look forward to the V series British aircraft also.

A German phantom would be nice. I look forward to the V series British aircraft also.

I remember a seeing a German Phantom at Thunder over Louisville a few years ago. A unit from the German Airforce was there training and I guess they were asked to send a Phantom to participate in the airshow. It was nice, but it was no replacement for the F-22 that had been promised for the third year in a row and never showed up.

Some previews, more F4s to come. Thanks to Wyrm for helping me with the model.

Looking good :thumbsup: What nationality are the roundels?

Best,

Oz

Iran and Greece said the Grand Master (Wyrmshadow).

I wondered if it could have been Salvador, which has the same roundel as Greece, but wrong was I.

I was also told that Little Master (Ares) has plenty of work to do with F-4, and that me and my mod will be very happy with it.

Iran and Greece said the Grand Master (Wyrmshadow).

I wondered if it could have been Salvador, which has the same roundel as Greece, but wrong was I.

I was also told that Little Master (Ares) has plenty of work to do with F-4, and that me and my mod will be very happy with it.

Salve, Grand Master & Little Master! :goodjob:

Apprentice at best.

Apprentice at best.
So Grand Master and Little Apprentice.

Or would you prefer the much craved title of Little Grasshopper?