There are times where war is not the answer, where we must regroup and lick our wounds, and repair our economies. It is at times, even useful, to let our "friends" fight each other to oblivion, whilst rebuilding our infrastructure, building places of wealth, learning, and worship. We need not always concern ourselves with worldly affairs, but internal affairs.

We will let our culture and trade determine policy and research. Our trade and construction of improvements shall aid in the defense of our nation!

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The Citizen's Council of the Spice Trader's Guild:
Chieftess
Immortal
Mr Spice
Stravinski
crabapple
SKILORD
allhailIndia
Strider
napoleon526
philippe
Eklektikos
Dragoten
Zur
Plexus
trader/warrior
Cyc
Marcus Magnus
commie_21
Grandmaster
Waterz
Quizpeachablari
Zarn
Octavian X
FionnMcCumhallNewest Member

Supporters (Since Term 1):
The Deputy of Trade
The Deputy of Domestic Affairs
Domestic Department

(note, this is a citizen's group).


To re-itterate our purpose:

Our mission is to acquire wealth through trade, and to deny our enemies any resources that would hinder our great civilization. If we are aggressive in our trading with other nations, we can severly limit the number of their troops, as they will be indulging in our goods, instead of planning for war. (i.e., less GPT = smaller sized military) In wars, we will participate in an indirect way, by pillaging enemy roads that lead to resources, and/or to their trading partners.

The Department of Trade welcomes the addition of any citizen's group which seeks to advance the art of trade.

Bill
Trade Leader - Term 1

As deputy Minister of Domestic affairs
I would like to congratulate you on the formation of your guild and would like to offer my official support and urge all citizens to join a guild of their choice,if they so choose.
Deputy Hendrix

as long as the needs for defense and culture are respected as well, I would be glad to join the Trader's guild, how did you come up with the name?

Originally posted by Immortal
as long as the needs for defense and culture are respected as well, I would be glad to join the Trader's guild, how did you come up with the name?

Well, it's one of the first things that came to mind when I was trying to think of a name. I was thinking about the game "Loom", where you have different guilds, and also MM6, & MM7 (for some reason..).

what is the spice-traders guild's opinion about agressive expansion and taking resources/lux by force even if we dont really need them for our civ?

Culture. Now that is something that sounds deeply embedded in the Spice Traders Guild. I first heard of the STG in Frank Herbert's Dune, i believe. Or maybe that was just the Spice Guild. Either way, the DOC warmly welcomes you. It is an honor to have a group of citizens move forward in an obvious attempt to advance our commerce and culture in a peaceable manner. I look forward to hearing your ideas. I have enjoyed your posts so far, so please fill me in with the details of your Guild, so that i might become familiar with it.

Again Welcome,
Cyc
Cultural Minister

The Domestic Department offers its support for such a group. It is my opinion, that all excess luxuries should be traded to someone for something, or even given as gifts when another civ has nothing. They serve no purpose when in excess, except to flood our economy, and drive prices down. Gold per turn agreements in payment for our luxuries are preferable, as they increase the flexibility of our economy.

How could I resist a guild with such a beautiful name? :D Seriously, I am all for selling excessive luxuries to our enemies and draining their economies while benefiting ours. As for buying stuff, I would much rather just take all luxuries and resources we need by force.

What a nice idea, trade when you can`t take by forecs, trade when there`s other benefits (like draining our neighbours treasury), trade to make powerful friends (though we should never [I]trust[I] them), trade, trade, trade........

But before I get overly enthusiastic - what about force to gain access? To repeat disorganizers question: What do you think about it?

After all, we need all we can get, especially when times are tough!

Like to join the Trader's Guild

I support this guild :)

Winning by culture is ok but in the Early years it is more effective to attack our enemys. This would be a good Idea in the Industrial or Modern Age.

can i join? i'll support this way of life!

Ah!! no spice trader's guild is complete without one who cannot without spice, I'm in:D !!

I'll Join!! It'll give me something to do instead of vote(hopefully)

I'll join, but but will this citizen's group do? Merely promote foreign trade?

what exactly do we do?

I am not sure about the purpose either, but I know one thing: Since we are not connected to any other civ yet there can be no trade and thus we probably don´t have much to do right now. Except maybe suggesting the building of roads to our neighbours. One thing I would like to do is to start taking control of as many luxuries and resources as possible, future trade being one of many reasons for this. But I think most people agree on that...

quite right, spice, especially we should try to obtain more than one of reach luxury so we can trade.

An interesting way of using luxuries is giving many of the cheap to a shorttime ally. Thus he, can help, then be brought into great unhappiness and maybe anarchy whenever we desire - simply be cancelling the treaty!

"He who controls the spice, controls the universe...".

That is all that need be said on the topic.;)

having been elected governor i guess that i'm gonna have to switch to being a supporter. or do i? if i have to i do gladly.

Originally posted by SKILORD
having been elected governor i guess that i'm gonna have to switch to being a supporter. or do i? if i have to i do gladly.

I believe that is completely up to you. Do whatever suits your political syle.;)

Originally posted by eyrei
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe...".

That is all that need be said on the topic.;)

I second that my fellow spice trader:goodjob:

True, Eyrei. And then there's always _ "framerate is Life"...

No one has replied to this thread for awhile.... Surprising sense the war, but I guess everyone's talking somewhere else.

since SKILORD,my idol is in the spice traders guild i want to join.
im hot and spicey!

Sign me up! Trade and resource domination is definitely the key to success in Civ3 IMO

I haven't been around in a while (busy with work, and real life). :) I'll update the list tomorrow or Friday).

i want to join this guild and as tribute i give you lords the map of the place called:"spice heaven"

Well, I'm back. (member list update in progress). Now that I'm the Trade Minister, I'll PM everyone and see if we want a new STG chairman. Also up for grabs are the positions of Trade Deputy and Chat Representative.

Pls. sign me up for the Spice Traders Guild.

I wanna join.:)

i`ll join:cool:

The Spice Trader's Guild is still active. It's been pushed down because of the recent activity in the forums.

Sign me up, Chieftess. My eyes are definitely not blue enough. I need spice.

Their hasn't been much activaty in the spice trader guild(This should boost it bak up to the top)

Yep. Lots of activity in this thread too...

I am willing to join, being the capitalist that I am. :)

Thanks fo inducting me into the guild! I will do the guild proud. :D

this spice trader guild is not very active....i suggest to do more spice in our food and sell the remaining spice to other civs:)

Originally posted by philippe
this spice trader guild is not very active....i suggest to do more spice in our food and sell the remaining spice to other civs:)

oddly enough we're under reveiw for being too active and doing poliytical party stuff

uhm fellow spice traders it seems like we will not be guilty of doing bad political stuff.
but i want that the spice traders should become more active...
we could do spice contest(playing gotm8 and trying to get all the spice etc...)
this guild is not very active...too bad :(

(playing gotm8 and trying to get all the spice etc...)

LOL! Yeh, we should be doin' stuff.

ok from now on.let the spice game begin!who wants to participate(spice traders only or not?)download GOTM8 and we all try to get all spice resources first!(i mean most early date like 1520.ad)
who wins should get a reward.any ideas for a reward?and chieftess do you think its a good idea?

Sounds good to me.

this sounds good, but i see it more in a general sense:
whouldnt it be good to have a kind of gotm, but with special orders to be fullfilled? like "capture all spice" "conquer your continent and only yours!", "destroy the zulu and have all other civilizations gracious till 2040".
wouldnt this be a good idea?

yes i had that idea.
may i organise it?
before i can begin may i have your permission chieftess?

we could try it with your idea and then bring it to TF or the mods to maybe get another kind of gotm going. one without the normal win-conditions. maybe we could call it CIV3-MOTM (Mission of the month)?!?

a good title:spice trader challenge!
and we could have several new winning ideas:
get all the spice in the world.
survive to 2050 without a war(this is very hard)
be the first one who researches future technology....etc

That's a great idea nbut it doesn't belong anywhere near the demogame.

thats why we talk about it in the citizen forum ;-)

yes i know but then in which forum?

I approve of it. It could even be a new forum. "Challenge Game of the Month".

ok so how should i organise it?not in this thread.i will pm thunderfall about this new idea and we will hear what the resluts are.maybe a extra forum,maybe a new thread in the GOTM.
and the title is:the spice traders challenge!
download GOTM8 and your mission is now:
be the first one who gets future tech.(i mean:1520 A.D or something like that....)
and i could check the results.:cool:
so we could start this new challenge....

i will join sounds like fun :)

Just pushing this higher for "advertisement purposes". :)

what? the STG needs advertising? did this group go down this fast?

hehe.. with all of these discussions in 1 thread. :)

Anyone mind if I join? Bleeding a civ's treasury and enlarging through trade can seriously hinder any enemy. Trade is as powerful as any sword.

Count me in.

Sure, welcome to the Spice Trader's Guild!

In fact, at Term 3's end, we acquired 4 new sources of spice by capturing a Greek city!

Can i join the place sounds great!!!

Sure! Welcome!

The mayor of Delphi (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26435) hopes the STG will open a branch office or hopefully even the main office of this fine group in our city, as we have 4 spice-tiles in our vincinity.

Also, our city offers the finest recreational areas of whole phoenatica, from snowboarding to surfing, for sport and family.

The Spice Trader Guild announces the creation of a branch office in the city of Delphi, now known as STG Southern Division.

hmm spice...this new spice sources delight me!
It will be tonight chili in delphi!
Hey that souns like a good saying.

Hmm
Delphi:It will be tonight chili in delphi.
That sounds VERY good!

I would like to join.

I believe that trade and culture are the very most important aspects of ouyr civilization. While our military has gotten us to this glorious position, we can now accomplish our goals through trade and culture. With the added gold that trade can provide we can afford to expand our science and culture even more to assure our civilization's place in history.

I would like to propose that we lobby the new governor of Asphinxia to rename the city of Anyang to "Arrakis", and then move our base of operations to that city. :D
Anyang, it should be noted, is a major oil producer and therefore a place of no small importance where matters of trade are concerned!

If this recieves enough support, I would be glad to propose the name change, and would welcome the spice trader's guild into Asphinxia!!

Disagree fellow spice member.We need to stay with our roots:the spice.
The spice IS our life.Over centuries we traded spice all over the world.We have this connection to the past when we only had knights and triremes....
Now that we are in the modern ages we need something to connect us with the past:The spice trader guild....

Thats why there is a branch office in delphi.

And China has a source of spice. We're at war with China now, and if, through shrewed diplomacy, we get the Zulus on our side, Chinese spice might become Phoenatican spice. :)

We need to try and own all of the spice.

Now that Elephantine has a resource inside the city limits (albeit uranium, but it's *spicy* uranium) I thought I'd open a branch office of the guild, if that's cool.

I opened at branch office in pherris.

For those who are unfamilliar with the name Arrakis....

The Economy of the Universe revolves around one single commodity, by which all other transations are measured. No thing it more valued or fought over, not even human life. That thing is Melange, known simply as Spice. Spice is life, Spice is power and spice is only found in one place, the desert city of Arrakis, called Dune. The trade guild and the ruling powers all know that, whoever controls Arrakis controls the Universe.
The Spice must flow....

For those who still have no idea what I am talking about (you get out too much ;) ), the world where spice is the measure of all things is that of Frank Herbert's Dune, a classic sci-fi series. It seems fitting that the spice trader's guild should have a home where spice is life and power!! Eklektikos has suggested that the city of Anyang in Asphinxia be renamed Arrakis and the Spice Traders Guild HQ established there. If this wins a few more advocates I will put it to the vote, as it is an excellent proposal.

Oh..thats why its called Arrakis...
Well then im not anymore against it!
Spice trader guild=Arrakis!
long live Arrakis!

For up to date News and Current Affairs, read the Asphinxian Times (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383681#post383681)
Released almost every day, despite the name!!

The Department of Trade would like to restate it's support of the Spice Traders Guild. The Guild's input would be greatly appreciated in the Department.

Yes, this guild has an ancient history, going back to its' roots in Fox Nest. The actual date is a bit foggy, but estimates put it somewhere between 3500 BC - 2800 BC. Our traders have had a strong history of aiding the economy with spice.

to honor this great group i give a free stay to all the members of the spice traders guild at the sunshine beach resort for a week, for more info click here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27811) :cool:

With the addition of Sunshine Beach, we now control all the spice in that region! In order to secure the spices, we must request cultural improvements in the surrounding cities. This will help tourism as well.

Freshly Picked Spice!

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Spice Centers:

Fox Nest - 2 spices
Asyut - 2 spices
Delphi/Sunshine Beach - 4 spices
Shanghai (Chinese) - 1 spice

We have 8/9 (8 out of 9) sources of spice!

(There only seems to be 9 of each resource on this map)

The Babylonian borders have claimed 1 of our spices!!

In other news, our main headquarters is now in Arrakis (formerlly Anyang). Fox Nest will still keep its' offices, and remain at STG North. Delphi, as you know, is STG South. I am thinking of creating a STG East somewhere in eastern Mohawkia or Nouva Terra.

Chieftess, may I join the guild?

As the new leader of of trade, I'd also like to join this guild, despite the fact that I live in the incense capital of Phoenatica, Corinth.

how can you disgruntled Bas***** try to assassinate her! what, theyre not miners? oh, sorry

I would like to join this prestigous group. *signs application form*

I keep thinking jdd is octavian... it's hard to get used to the new avatars!!
btw, miners, what? did I miss something there?

I would like to welcome our newest members to the guild. Over the past few decades, the value of spice has been in a recession, but thanks to Trade, things seem to be turning around! And I ask culture to help acquire that spice that Babylon took from us!