The Mongols did not have siege technology in OTL, and nor should I think that my Mongols would have them. We've only just acknowledged that we are currently not good siegers, after the disaster at Chengdu, and thus have moved to copy Chinese technology, and quickly move to master the art of the siege.

Those Mongol Bastards... soon they'll copy the designs for Japanese hover boats...

We must stop them.

Those Mongol Bastards... soon they'll copy the designs for Japanese hover boats...

We must stop them.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :nuke:

I was referring to Perfectionists Story Contempt with regards to the trebuchet.

721-730: Update 3

Non-Military Events:

Investments finally cause Adena’s first port city, Choupique, to become a center of coastal trade.

(+Choupique economic center)

The Scottish king converts to Kyrianity, but stresses that this is only a personal choice, and that the official faith of the nation will remain Trinitism. This causes a stir amongst the populace, but those of the high priesthood, oddly enough, do not turn against the king, as if they know there is a greater reason for the Scottish king’s conversion. The Scottish king then issues a call to arms of the Scottish people, explaining that the English are evil, and that now is the last chance for the Scots to make a stand against the threat.

(-1 Scottish confidence, +5 Scottish irregular divisions)

The Edict of Venice is put forth by Pepin II, standardizing coinage throughout the Empire. Meanwhile, even more economic projects in the Holy Celtic Empire bring fruit. Specifically, the cities of Antwerp and Rouen assume their ‘rightful status.’ Nevertheless, an economy has a limit to its growth rate, and so, because of that reason, if few others, Bordeaux fails to become a center of trade.

(+Antwerp economic center, +Rouen economic center)

As the North War drags on, the leaders in the free cities on the south Baltic become decidedly pro-Celtic.

Propaganda is thrown wildly at the Norwegians by both the Celts and the Svearish loyalists, the former nation explaining that if the Norse revolt, they will get their nation back, and the latter trying to foster a sense of pan-Viking unity, against the imperialistic empire to the south. This has the result of polarizing the Norwegian populace, and making some of them rather more pro-Svear then Pepin II would have hoped. However, the Norse also have strong nationalists among them, and so, the expected revolt occurs…

(See Military Events)

The Iberians begin building a massive wall along their south coast, known as the Line of Faith.

Tensions in Bulgaria escalate, as rumors spread that the Holy Celtic Empire is persecuting Kyrians within its borders. Minimal fighting breaks out between the pro-Kyrian and pro-Trinitist factions. Rather then trying to mend the relationship between the two religions, however, Emperor Alexandros lets things deteriorate, and rides the growing anti-Trinitist fervor within his nation. And then, when the time is right, he declares war.

(See Spotlight)

Morroco signs a vassalage agreement with Tunis, after some forceful negotiation.

King Chike of Tunis learns that there are Celtic spies at large in his nation, and, in a fairly rumor-producing incident, some of his men manage to capture some of them.

Aegypt prepares for a new crusade. A crusade against the hated Trinitists.

(+1 Aegyptian culture)

A number of those native to the Levant join forces with the Aegyptians against the Benjids and the Arabs, as a propaganda campaign in this region has been largely successful.

(+5 Aegyptian irregular divisions)

A new era has come to Axum. King Yarden IV ben Eliezer takes the throne, and does his best to alleviate the problems caused by his predecessor’s policies. Taking advantage of the wars that wreak the north, he encourages Axumite merchants to ship grains and other foodstuffs to all the embattled nations. This offsets the problems caused by the ‘Holy Laws,’ and provides a surplus, to boot.

(+1 Axumite treasury)

Even as Orthodox Jewish missionary activity within the nation of Malagasya increases, rumors begin to surface that the Malagasyan government is trying to repress its growing minority, with economic sanctions, and occasionally with violence. Eventually, a letter from the Jews of Malagasya arrives on Yarden IV’s desk, explaining that the Malagasyan monarchy is oppressing not only them, but the Indian minorities as well, and asking for help. Yarden IV responds. In force.

(See Military Events)

Khazaria, in support of its brother to the south, declares a holy war against the Benjid Empire’s enemies. A crusade, or mikaelist, is called, and volunteers flock to the banner of King Benjamin I, to put the Egyptian and Persian infidels in their place. A herem is placed upon the enemies of the Benjids as King Benjamin and his greatest commander, Adon Mikael (who some call a prophet), march south with their army. Benjamin’s son is granted domestic rule over the nation during the time his father is away.

(+5 Khazar irregular divisions, +1 Khazar confidence)

(See Military Events)

The Kingdom of Delhi takes out a loan from Axum, to help pay for the war effort.

Songtsen Gampo, Mad King of Tibet, decides that the best way to raise his country to prosperity is to bring it under the wing of the hegemon barbarian nation, Mongolia. A marriage between his eldest daughter and Prince Temujin of the Mongols commences, and quite soon after, the Mad King dies, leaving Khan Yesugei the sole ruler of the union between the two countries. However, feeling Tibet can never be ruled by an outsider, many Tibetan warlords are appalled by their late king’s decision. The tenuous situation in Tibet erupts into civil war.

(-Tibet)

(See Military Events)

More Manchurian tribes pledge allegiance to Yesugei Khan of the Mongols.

(+5 Mongol divisions)

Military Events:

Scottish forces evacuate Ireland for the Highlands as quickly as possible, and some of their commanders actually apologize for the invasion. For one reason or another, the live and let live tactic has worked so far, as the Irish make no move to follow the retreating Scots back across the sea. Meanwhile, the English initiate a new offensive, this one much better supplied then the first. The English fleets gain control of the Irish Sea with ease, as the Scottish navy is in truly a pitiful state. On the land, the English make a drive for Inverness, the last major free Scot city, amid heavy Scot resistance. However, when the city is taken, the surprised English note that it was ungarrisoned. It is then that the Scots reveal their desperate gamble. They let the English into Inverness, while their marshaled armies waited in the lands around the city. Attacking from all sides, the Scots snare the English, and try to make the best of their advantage. At the Battle of Kilworth Hills, as it becomes known, the main English army puts up a heroic resistance against both marshaled Scots and risings from within the city itself, but they are eventually defeated. The Scots, who had generally thought their plan hopeless from the start, have little idea on how to capitalize on their hardwon advantage, but the English invaders no longer have the strength to press on. However, the Scots know how dire their situation is. Even as support for the costly War of the Isles wanes at home in England, the fact remains that half the nation of Scotland is occupied by the English. Kilworth may have stalled them, true, but the English still seem able to win the war on strength of brute force, if nothing else.

(-1 English confidence, -4 English Housecarl divisions, -5 English divisions, -5 Scottish divisions, -2 Scottish squadrons)

The North War reaches its climax. Svearland institutes heavy conscription, even as Norway breaks out into open revolt. Assisted by some Celtic expeditionary forces, the Norse easily drive the Svears from their homeland, as the bulk of the Svearish army is busy defending their own land against the Celtic-Dane incursion. Faced with a reversal of fortune even in the west, more nobles join forces with the anti-king rebels. A coup against the Svearish monarchy is just barely defeated, and a weak Svear uprising against the invaders in Scania is easily put down. Malmo, which held out against the Celtic alliance for so long, finally falls. However, while the situation on land rapidly deteriorates for the Svears, various twists of fate left them with a fighting chance in the Baltic. Heavy investment in the growth of the Svearish navy, while it cuts training levels, provides the Svears with a fleet nearly as large as the allied one. The battles here are massive, and almost even, as the Svearish tactical advantage for fighting in their native waters is substantial, but the Danes were long familiar with the Baltic, and their ships lead the Celtic ones to victory. Island after island is seized, and the Svearish fleet is forced to the coast. Meanwhile, the Svearish army, even bolstered by conscription, is smaller then those of the invaders, and suffers from both horrible morale, and a heavy rate of desertion. Though the loyal Svears fight as hard as they can, they are just no match for their own rebels, the Norse rebels, the Danes, and the Celts. Besieged on all sides, Stockholm finally falls, and the pathetic remnants of the loyalist government collapse. The Svearish king is missing, presumed dead, and the Unified Trinitist Church is quickly losing what little power it has left.

(-Svearland, +1 Holy Celtic confidence, -3 Holy Celtic divisions, -5 Holy Celtic squadrons, -1 Dane division, -4 Dane squadrons)

Novgorod expands northward, into Finland.

Holy war, anyone?

(See Spotlight)

(+10 Aegyptian irregular divisions, -22 Aegyptian divisions, -3 Aegyptian Temple Guard divisions, -6 Aegyptian irregular divisions, +10 Tunisian irregular divisions, -4 Tunisian divisions, -2 Tunisian squadrons, -2 Moroccan divisions, -4 Moroccan squadrons, -10 Byzantine divisions, -2 Byzantine Kyriohippeis divisions, -1 Byzantine squadron, -5 Bulgar divisions, +10 Holy Celtic irregular divisions, -1 Holy Celtic division, -7 Holy Celtic irregular divisions, +10 Iberian irregular divisions, -4 Iberian divisions, -6 Iberian irregular divisions, -5 Iberian squadrons, -4 Italian divisions, -3 Italian squadrons, +Bachira, -2 Benjid government efficiency, -24 Benjid divisions, -5 Benjid Zealot divisions, -3 Benjid irregular divisions, -4 Khazar divisions, -2 Khazar Mikaelite divisions, -2 Khazar irregular divisions, -4 Khzazar squadrons, -6 Persian divisions)

Encouraged by Axum, Mangbetu makes a weak effort to expand west.

(-1 Mangbetu division)

In the War of the Letter, as it has come to be called, Axum makes the first move by quickly seizing the Malagasyan colony on its border. The Malay fleet mustered at Antsiranana, the port at the north of their island, in an attempt to prepare to retake the captured territory, but was soon met in its home waters by a larger Axumite fleet. The Malay were forced to retreat away from the port to save their navy, and Axumite troops under the control of Commander Shimon ben David soon landed, seizing the trade city of Antsiranana. However, things began to become much more difficult from there, as an overly ambitious attack at the southern tip of the island was repulsed, and most of the Axumite troops committed to that maneuver were killed. The anticipated Jewish uprisings in support of the invasion did occur, but they were not very strong or organized, and were easily crushed, despite Axumite support. Hopes for a quick and easy victory against the Malay ended, and King Yarden IV prepared his generals for a grueling land war. An army was mustered to take the Malay capital of Tananarive and, quite against expectations, succeeded. However, Malay resistance in the south is growing ever more staunch as the years progress, and Yarden’s hopes of conquering the entire island no longer seem realistic, as the strain of providing logistics for such a distant war are starting to drain the Axumite economy. Perhaps more threatening then that, the Indians of Malagasya are using the war to gain power behind the scenes in the Axumite-occupied north, setting up the foundations for what the Axumites worry might be an Indian-controlled state in a post-war Malagasya.

(-8 Axumite divisions, -5 Axumite squadrons, -7 Malay divisions, -7 Malay squadrons)

Khazaria continues to expand northward, but resistance to the Turks is becoming more fierce.

(-1 Khazar division)

As the Tibetans, engulfed in their civil war, abandon their holdings in Kashmir and northern India, the forces of the Kingdom of Delhi move in and retake the regions with little complication. West, the fake war with Persia continues, and south, the forces of the Kingdom of Delhi launch a massive army against Simhala, with the intent of pushing the Simhalans off the subcontinent. Met by outmanned and poorly trained Simhalans, the Delhian offensive makes great gains before finally being ground to a halt by attrition. The Simhalans, launching maritime attacks, are repulsed on both coasts of the subcontinent by troops loyal to the Kingdom of Delhi. However, in the confused region of Bengal, Delhi forces experience less success. It seems the Bengali rebels and the Simhalans signed an alliance, for Dacca was turned over to the natives, who promptly made it their de facto capital, and launched an offensive to liberate their remaining homelands from the control of Delhi. Waves of Bengalis were slaughtered by the Delhians, but force of numbers push the Delhians back on both the east and the west fronts, albeit slowly. The Bengal War seems to have taken a turn in Delhi’s favor, but who knows how long the tides will last?

(+Bengal, -7 Delhian divisions, -2 Delhian squadrons, -16 Simhalan divisions, -1 Simhalan squadron)

In Tibet, warlords defect in droves from the Khan-loyal government in Lhasa. The forces that Temujin hoped would aid him in China never arrive, as the civil war in his latest acquisition is much stronger then he had anticipated. With true Mongol troops tied down in the east, the Khan-loyal in Tibet receive no assistance, and consequently, they lose ground rapidly to a loose coalition of nationalist warlords. As the first stage of the civil war dies down, the nation is split roughly in half between the Khan-loyal and the warlords.

(10 Tibetan divisions to Mongolia-Tibet, -6 Mongol-Tibetan divisions)

Angkor makes further gains against their barbarian neighbors, but not as much as the nation had hoped for, as Jahiyavarman I underestimated the number of troops he needed to subdue the region.

(-2 Angkorese divisions)

The Mongols put down the rebellions occurring behind their front lines in China, and violently. Some survivors that made their way to free China tell tales of ‘Iron Face Demons’ that serve Prince Temujin, and live only too kill. The superstitious Chinese recall the barbarian Horse Demons of centuries past, and are terrified.

(-1 Chinese confidence)

Japanese soldiers land in barbarian territory just north of Silla, and occupy the region, to serve as a base for attacks against the Mongols. Meanwhile, the Mongols in the region advance, and strike at the main Sillian army camp. The Koreans take heavy losses, but manage to regroup, and, joining forces with the Japanese, begin to finally make gains against the tired Mongol regulars. Pyongyang is recaptured. It is at this time that the Iron Face Demons arrive. In their very first appearance on the front lines, the Iron Face Demons, which are largely considered supernatural by even the Koreans and the Japanese, attack, and rout the unprepared allied forces. Nevertheless, the sheer size of the allied armies forces the Mongol resurgence to slow, even as the barbarians slaughter thousands of Koreans and Japanese. With time, what promised to be a grand Mongol offensive becomes muted. Somehow, the Japanese get their hands on war elephants, and while the beasts are somewhat out of sorts in their new environment, and impractical in the mountains in any case, their surprise appearance gives even the Iron Face Demons pause. However, the Korean peninsula after another decade of fighting is largely conquered, with the Sillian government reduced to the far south, and pockets of Japanese occupation only all along the coasts, albeit including in Pyongyang. Despite suffering more defeats then expected, the Mongols still control the rest.

(-3 Mongol-Tibetan divisions, -1 Mongol-Tibetan Iron Face Demon division, -7 Japanese divisions, -5 Sillan divisions)

Odd things are happening in China. The Mongols gain intelligence that the Chinese will attempt an amphibious landing behind their front lines, but when they race an army to intercept, the supposed Chinese army has vanished without a trace. Ignoring the phantom army, Prince Temujin personally leads a new invasion force from the steppes into China’s heartland, leading a large compliment of Iron Face Demons, but he promptly finds China’s armies weak, and without much fight left in them. As the Yang Emperor, disappeared, no longer seems to be giving any orders at all to the Chinese army, it flounders, and many irregulars begin to desert. Its generals order their army to retake Chengdu, and after a struggle, they do, as the hoped Tibetan reinforcements never arrive. However, in the north, opposed by little but irregulars, Temujin’s army conquers its way to Yangzhou. The capital of China taken, Temujin searches for the Emperor, or indeed, any member of his royal family, but it seems they have all vanished. Disliking the situation, and worried that he was able to achieve success without even needing to implement the plan he had prepared, Temujin consolidates his holdings. But even as Temujin worries, unoccupied China descends into chaos. With Yangzhou fallen, and the Yang Emperor still in hiding, a man named Prince Xiao, supposedly the heir to the Chu-Nan dynasty of old, declares a restored Chu-Nan Empire in the south. Searching for some measure of order, many troops and peasants flock to his banner, and a capital is set up at Nanning. However, much of free China does not fall under the control of this new government, and instead descends into chaos. It seems Yang China is dead.

(-Yang China, +Chu-Nan China, -9 Mongol-Tibetan divisions, -3 Iron Face Demon Mongol-Tibetan divisions)

Random Events:

The people of England gain a new measure of confidence for King Egbert.

(+1 English confidence)

The Holy Celtic Army’s training standards are improving, as are the standards for those employed in the civilian government. The nation seems to be entering a prosperous time.

(+1 Holy Celtic army quality, +2 Holy Celtic government efficiency, +1 Holy Celtic confidence, +1 Holy Celtic culture)

Much to the dismay of the Svears, the thought of a unified supranational Trinitisendom is starting to take hold in Europe.

Tunis is on a whole becoming a more religious nation.

(+1 Tunisian culture)

Aegypt is bolstered by waves of patriotism and cultural pride.

(+1 Aegyptian culture, +1 Aegyptian confidence)

Axum has a rich history.

(+1 Axumite culture)

In spite, or perhaps because of all the threats to its very existence, the distinct Mongol culture prospers.

(+2 Mongol culture, +2 Mongol confidence, +1 Mongol government efficiency, +1 Mongol army quality)

In Angkor, a city rises.

(+Prek Trang economic center)

The Japanese people rally behind Shogun Han.

(+1 Japanese confidence)

Spotlight: The Great Crusades

“A storm is coming. Ctha’r fight Yehudan already, and the tension between the Trinitists and my Kyrians grows. Why not simply merge the wars?”

-Emperor Alexandros of Byzantium, Defender of the Faithful

Ever since the fragile peace at the end of the Eighth Crusade, the Mediterranean was a powder keg. Even as the Ctha’ri turned their attention east, against the Benjids, and the Celts turned their attention north, against the Svears, the old conflict between the two great religions was not forgotten. Perhaps oddly, Byzantium’s declarations of war came first. The Kyrians were old enemies of the Yehudans, but until recently had been on moderately good terms with the Trinitists. However, historians believe that the growing tensions in Bulgaria was enough to push Alexandros over the edge, and convince him to side with the Ctha’rist block. When Alexandros declared war, it was not just against the Celts, but against the Benjids, and against Khazaria, as well. As the Bulgar Khanate’s government followed the Byzantine lead, it seemed the Kyrians and the Ctha’ri had joined in a sort of religious alliance, against the Yehudans and the Trinitists. As already hinted, it did not take long after the Byzantine declarations of war for the Moroccans, the Tunisians, and the Aegyptians to do the same. Massive fleets were raised on the southern side of the Mediterranean, and it began.

But I shall discuss a periphery conflict of the Great Crusades first. The Benjid War. Hoping to please the Arabs, the Benjid king repealed many of his radical reforms. However, this caused more chaos, not unity, as the Arabs (or rather the Bachirans, as they call themselves once again) were unconvinced that the rule of Bagdad was the best for them, and did not reintegrate, instead establishing a provisional capital at Mecca. Meanwhile, rioting broke out against the Benjid king, as the minorities raged, appalled that the king could so easily give and take away what mattered most to them. Resistance to the king was crushed of course, that was one thing he was good at, after all, clamping down and enforcing his rule. However, even as Bagdad’s stability was forcibly re-secured, the Persian War started turning against the Benjids. It seemed the Persians had outlasted their aggressors, for that ‘one last push’ regained the Ghaznavids Bukhara, and forced the Benjids into a slow but steady retreat, as they simply no longer had the manpower to succeed on their eastern front. In the west, of course, things started deteriorating much more rapidly, as a large segment of the highly trained Byzantine army flooded across the border, concurrent with second Aegyptian surge. Despite having the help of a number of Khazar soldiers, the Benjids are outrained, outmanned, and have far from a united populace behind them. They are forced to give ground rapidly. Northern Mesopotamia falls to the Byzantines and the Aegyptians, and before the Benjid king is sure what is happening, he finds the Byzanto-Aegyptian hordes at his capital. After a number of massive battles, costing the lives of both the Benjid king, and Benjamin I, the old king of Khazaria who decided to personally lead his soldiers to the Benjids, Baghdad finally falls. It would have seemed that the back of Benjid resistance should have been broken at that point, but, perhaps in horror of what might become of their lands if the infidels won, the Benjids now provisionally under the control of a top military commander, manage to hold their ground, and prevent both the Byzantines from penetrating the Caucasus, and the Aegyptians from marching into Persia. However, as new rebellions break out in the Benjid territories, specifically in the ancient Zoroastrian homelands on the Gulf, and the true heir to the throne is nowhere to be found, it seems the Benjid nation is dying.

In Arabia, at least, the Yehudans have some manner of success, as the truce between the Bachirans and the Benjids mostly holds (though more of Arabia declares for Bachira, and there is little the Benjids can do to keep the regions from defecting), and an Aegyptian force dispatced to capture Medina proved quite insufficient for the task. The Aegyptians are repulsed from what they once had of the Hejjaz, and the Arabians come dangerously close to retaking Israel, and cutting Aegyptian supply lines.

In the Black Sea, the Byzantines, acting with momentum, largely destroy the Khazar navy, as their ally Bulgaria attacks the Khazars from the west, on land. Bulgaria has a variety of problems of its own, as Trinitist partisans within the nation make logistics and so forth difficult, and, so, while the Bulgars make some gains, they get bogged down well before Kiev.

In their attack against the Holy Celtic Empire, the Byzantines besige Venice. Despite defensive preparations, the city falls, and the Byzantines proceed into Germany itself. Levies and the like stop them at the Danube, but it seems only a matter of time before the Byzantines break through.

And now to the centerpiece of this war to end all wars: the Trinitist-Ctha’r conflict. Operating from Byzantine controled waters, the first landing of the Aegyptians in Europe is in Italia. Despite some squables by the allies over who is to occupy Venice (which in the end remains held by the Byzantines), the Aegyptian army in Europe quickly heads southward from that point. Genoa is seized from behind by the Aegyptians, but their army quickly bogs down in the unfarmiliar territories after that. Most of Italia remains safe. For now.

The Tunisians and their Moroccan allies atempt to purge the western Mediterranean of Trinitist fleets. This is only partially sucessful. Though the Trinitsts, vastly outnumbered, retreat, they retreat to the south French coast, out of range of the vengeful Ctha’ri. The Italian half of Sicily, the Iberian Isles, and Corsica are all seized by the Tunisians with ease.

A Tunisian attack against Italia is called off due to coordination errors, as Aegypt already took Genoa, and so, the Tunisians turn the strength of their armies against Iberia. Bypassing the Line of Faith completely, the Tunsians and the Moroccans land at Lisbon and Barcelona. Fanatic resistance by the Iberians only has so much effect, as the southern regions of the pennisula are conquered with ease, and the Tunisians make a special (and sucessful) effort to seize the Pyrenees.

What most westerners consider the entire world is now completely engulfed in war.

NPC Diplomacy:

To: Holy Celtic Empire
From: Denmark, Norse Rebels, Svear Rebels, Finn Rebels

We await your proposal on how the lands of former Svearland are to be divided.

To: Aegypt, Byzantium
From: Bachira

Die, infidels!

To: Mongol and Tibetan Confederacy
From: Chu-Nan

Your empire is great, oh Khan, but you have many wars to fight, and fighting against us might tip the scales and bring you down. We await an offer of borders in a peace treaty.

When I first reserve my posts before I edit in the update, I type in sequential letters of the English alphabet.

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OOC:

This was not a good time for silver to not send orders.

Luckymoose, you can't put two points into a project in one turn. Birdjaguar, the nation that starts the turn with control of an eco center gets to spend its spoils.

Sheep, I hope you don't quit. Ghaznavid Persia is still waiting for you, and has only been slightly genocided in the interum.

The stats are not done, and will not be done for some time, due to RL issues. However, I didn't want to sit on the update. Enjoy, or at least gape in horror.

Yes Yes Yes!

Beautiful update... pretty violent too...

To Chu-Nan
From Mongolia-Tibet

Wars are our element, and we have won upon many fronts. Yet, China is in chaos, and we control much wealth in what China we do hold. Thus, we will agree to your idea of peace. Here is our proposed China:

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To Silla
From Mongolia-Tibet

Your armies are crushed, and now overstreched Japanese troops are all that remains of the defense of your lands. China is broken against us, and soon, that might there will be arrayed against you. Surrender to Mongolia, and the local autonomy, and the nominal Kingship of Silla will be secured, through political marriage, or treaty. Refuse, and be crushed brutually in the following years.

ooc: Considerign that the HCE does not occupy the entirety of Svearland why was I destroyed. This is flagrant favouritism and unless I get a good enough explantion or my country back I will not be happy.

OOC:

Sheep, I hope you don't quit. Ghaznavid Persia is still waiting for you, and has only been slightly genocided in the interum.

The stats are not done, and will not be done for some time, due to RL issues. However, I didn't want to sit on the update. Enjoy, or at least gape in horror.

I am not interested in Persia and I still dont see why Svearland would cease to be a nation.

ooc: Considerign that the HCE does not occupy the entirety of Svearland why was I destroyed. This is flagrant favouritism and unless I get a good enough explantion or my country back I will not be happy.

Probably because your government collapsed completely, and a nation isn't very good without a government. You could probably write a story about a general that escaped rallying the people in anarchy, and recreate the nation though.

Probably because your government collapsed completely, and a nation isn't very good without a government. You could probably write a story about a general that escaped rallying the people in anarchy, and recreate the nation though.

My government is the King and the loyalists, which nowehere does it say that they all died. I am sorry but Svearish loyalists wouldnt give up just because they are losing.

Not only that but enemy casualities are pitifully small compared to my own, which once again I take as favouritism in this towards the HCE.

Random Events:

The Holy Celtic Army’s training standards are improving, as are the standards for those employed in the civilian government. The nation seems to be entering a prosperous time.

(+1 Holy Celtic army quality, +2 Holy Celtic government efficiency, +1 Holy Celtic confidence, +1 Holy Celtic culture)



Sorry I dont care how good stories are such LARGE bonuses given severely prevents any sense of equality and futhermore just makes favouritism seem more likely.

ooc: Considerign that the HCE does not occupy the entirety of Svearland why was I destroyed. This is flagrant favouritism and unless I get a good enough explantion or my country back I will not be happy.

Norse rebels and pro-Celt Svear rebels hold the rest of your country. They were both heavily proped up by Perfectionist's support.

My government is the King and the loyalists, which nowehere does it say that they all died. I am sorry but Svearish loyalists wouldnt give up just because they are losing.

They were more or less wiped out. The king is in hiding, and he has very few supporters left, because most of the loyalists got themselves killed defending his nation to the last man.

Not only that but enemy casualities are pitifully small compared to my own, which once again I take as favouritism in this towards the HCE.

Not if you count the invisible casulties you inflicted on the rebels, which have no stats shown.

Sorry I dont care how good stories are such LARGE bonuses given severely prevents any sense of equality and futhermore just makes favouritism seem more likely.

I give out roughly one point of bonus per story, because I feel that stories are just as important to the NES as orders are. That said, I have been thinking for a while about implimenting a story 'curve' where after a number of stories it takes more then just one more story to get to that next bonus point, but as I said earlier, RL is rather complicated right now, so during this update I was not ready to impliment that practice.

All that said, there may well be problems with the update; I don't know, as it was written very quickly. Once I find the time I'll look it over.

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To: Mongolia-Tibet
From: Chu-Nan

We would argue some of the finer points of your treaty, but the fact remains, you are the victors here, and we do not wish to antagonize you. We accept.

To: Mongolia-Tibet
From: Silla

Propose an actual treaty and we might well sign. We never wanted this war, and now it seems our 'allies' the Japanese are taking advantage of our weakness to grab bits of our territory.

I really need more time to send orders. How did Scotland get across the seas when I already had a fleet last turn imposing a blockade?

I knew the Scottish would play a trick tactics on me as it was their only hope. I just did not have time to develop proper contigency plans. Oh well I do not plan to fight very many wars after this.

Nice Update!

Yeah well I am sorry to say but my interest in this nes just dried up as you never really took into account any of my orders, the fact that instead of defending the capital I would of retreated to the north and also the fact that you grossly overpowered rebels and underpowered my response to them which leads to me wondering if you a actually have taken a side in this (which is bad) and if you have then it is most certainly not mine (which is worse)

I really need more time to send orders. How did Scotland get across the seas when I already had a fleet last turn imposing a blockade?

The blockade didn't come into effect until this turn, I belive. The Scots got out just before you established it.

Yeah well I am sorry to say but my interest in this nes just dried up as you never really took into account any of my orders, the fact that instead of defending the capital I would of retreated to the north and also the fact that you grossly overpowered rebels and underpowered my response to them which leads to me wondering if you a actually have taken a side in this (which is bad) and if you have then it is most certainly not mine (which is worse)

The rebel Svearish nobles were in the north, and they were assisted in several ways that are for the time being secret. You were surrounded on all sides. Nevertheless, you could have put down those rebels if left alone, but a well supplied Celtic-Dane army several times the size of your own advancing through your territory made that somewhat difficult.

In Imago's defense... sheep, you have to realise what you were up against, half of your nation was a conquored nation... and as soon as you showed weakness, they would simply rise up in rage (as they did) & even without that, it was pretty one sided... Denmark, and HCE vs Svearland... i wouldn't say imago is favouring your enemies... but if you complain of favouratism every time you lose... people might start to get pissed off...

The blockade didn't come into effect until this turn, I belive. The Scots got out just before you established it.


I thought I established one last turn just not as strong as this turn. My whole plan was to keep the Scottish army stuck in Ireland. Oh well I may have forgotten that part due to me being in a hurry the turn before.

I thought I established one last turn just not as strong as this turn. My whole plan was to keep the Scottish army stuck in Ireland. Oh well I may have forgotten that part due to me being in a hurry the turn before.

I'm pretty sure you did forget, but I'll check your orders. If I missed something important and that was the reason Scotland lived, I'll give you a bonus.

Well, I'm kinda confused as to why the HCE's casualties are so low and why I was stopped so quickly. Also, Bulgaria doesn't seem to have made much of an impact at all on Khazaria, especially given the large land area and small army of Khazaria that was largely committed south. One would think they would have made much more headway. I guess surprise isn't enough. Next time I'll have to write a lot of stories.

Good update though! Things could most certainly have been worse!

The white parley flag fluttered in the winds of the southern Korean mountains, the sound of hoof beats echoing upon the stone streets in the quiet capital city.Fearful eyes looked upon the imperious, somewhat small man upon the armored horse.

The Iron masks upon his gaurdians were all the evidence they needed to confirm the identity of this man. The Second son of Yesugei, Jochi Khasar, flanked by his loyal retainers, the Iron Face Demons. Their bloody apperence, and iron masks were enough to cow the people of Pusan into silence.

Thus, it was a silent march towards the capital's palace, a fearful populace hoping that by some measure, peace would be achieved, and the fury of the Iron Face Demons would be avoided.

At the gates of the palace, the gaurds there tired from the long, hard fought war merely grunted as they opened the gates, saying nothing to the diplomatic party as they passed.

Dismounting their horses, leaving a sizable force there to gaurd them, the diplomatic party entered into the palace and quickly made their way into the throne room. An elder man sat upon the throne of Silla, and he seemed pale and gaunt, as if his very skin was sagging off his bones. He was but a tired, peace loving old man, wishing to see any kind of peace returned to his homeland.

His sons would have fought to the end, but unfortunetly, that fate would be one to horrible to afford to his people. An end forged in fire, split in the blood of his people as they were pillaged and raped by these elite Demons from the north. It would not do to be King, and allow such travesty to happen. He rose, after several moments of silence.

"You have parley with me, upon the subject of peace?" said the King of Silla, hoping that somehow, his people would be saved.

A slight smile broke upon the face of Jochi, and he began speaking rapidly in Mongolian, as an Iron Face Demon stepped forward, and spoke the translation in a dull monotone, his iron mask making his voice echo hauntingly in the great hall.

To Silla
From Mongolia-Tibet

The provisions of our treaty are as thus:


All territories nominally claimed by Silla will be intergrated into the Greater Mongolian-Tibet Empire.
The Dynasty of Silla will remain unbroken, and swear loyalty to the Great Khan.
A political marriage between the Great Khan's youngest daughter, my sister, Alan the Fair, and the heir to the Silla throne, to bind this treaty in blood.
The Dynasty of Silla will carry out the domestic administration of the Korean homeland, without interference from the Great Khan unless there are plots against him, or the Empire.
Immediate cessation of hostilities between Silla forces, and Mongolian ones. Intergration of Silla's army into the Greater Mongolian-Tibet army
Declaration of War against Japanese armies occupying the Korean penisula.

Excellent update. Everything that I expected to happen, did. I will have a division of former Svearland in a few minutes. And here it is.


FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: Denmark and the rebels in former Svearland
Here is our proposal for the end of the Northern War
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/100012/INES_Division_of_Svearland.PNG
Finland becomes an independent state.
Norway is reconstituted as an independent state.
Scania goes to Denmark.
The Baltic Isles go to the Holy Celtic Empire.
The Svear rebels establish a government in the remaining domains of former Svearland
The Unified Trinitist Church is abolished, and an inquisition conducted.
All parties sign an alliance.

Has nobody yet run into perfectionists *secret* troops...? If they had been in fighting we would know what they were, right?

Nice update Imago. Wow, talk about a penalty for not sending orders. Ouch. Is it just me or is the entire world involved in Holy Wars? Mongols religion is war, making it a holy war. Crusades from Khazaria and Benjids, Bachiria, Tunis, Aegypt, Morocco, Axum, HCE, Svearland (which no longer exists) are all at war for religion. Wow, big influence in this game.

To Malagasya
From Axum

We propose a peace treaty, with the following conditions:

a) Peace with Axum at current borders
b) Resignation and exile to mainland colony of the king
c) Payment of 1 IC for all damage done to Jewish and Indians
d) Cease all expansion on the mainland
e) Allow and pay for all Jews to move to Axumite Malagasya, as well as any Indians who so choose, so that no more oppression can happen
f) A 30-year NAP and trade agreement signed between Axum and Malagasya

To Delhi
From Axum

Do not feel a need to repay us just yet, as you are still at war. Repayment shall come on your schedule.

Nice update Imago. Wow, talk about a penalty for not sending orders. Ouch. Is it just me or is the entire world involved in Holy Wars? Mongols religion is war, making it a holy war. Crusades from Khazaria and Benjids, Bachiria, Tunis, Aegypt, Morocco, Axum, HCE, Svearland (which no longer exists) are all at war for religion. Wow, big influence in this game.


I think it is more people using religion as an excuse for war than religion itself as a direct cause for the war...

I think it is more people using religion as an excuse for war than religion itself as a direct cause for the war...

Mongols aren't using religion as an excuse to war (and we do have our own religion), as our entire purpose for existing as a nation is for conquest.

The blockade didn't come into effect until this turn, I belive. The Scots got out just before you established it

The rebel Svearish nobles were in the north, and they were assisted in several ways that are for the time being secret. You were surrounded on all sides. Nevertheless, you could have put down those rebels if left alone, but a well supplied Celtic-Dane army several times the size of your own advancing through your territory made that somewhat difficult.

Considering the naval campaign with battles and such, the adverse weather conditions in Scandinavia that I mentioned in my orders and that you took no notice of and the like I fail to see why the Celtic-Dane army was so well supplies. Let alone the Rebels which quite frankly would of had traitors and the like (from loyalist Svearish).

To be honest I have every reason to note of the favouritism awarded to Perfectionist.

Futhermore with the majority of the Celtic Army in Scandinavia I find it surprising that the Byzantines didnt make larger gains either. Imean without a Celtic army to actually defend with, dont you think the Byzantines would of actually gone further.

Put simply because of these reasons, the others stated before and many more, I dont think I will be staying in this nes.

Mongols aren't using religion as an excuse to war (and we do have our own religion), as our entire purpose for existing as a nation is for conquest.

Mongol's don't need an excuse for war ;)

I'm mainly talking about the more "western" wars i guess.

Nicely done Imago.

Excellent update. Everything that I expected to happen, did. I will have a division of former Svearland in a few minutes. And here it is.

Of course it did. Imago does whatever you tell him to do, and be damned with the rest of the players that are here.

Of course it did. Imago does whatever you tell him to do, and be damned with the rest of the players that are here.

I was referring to the Byzantine and Ctha'rist invasions. Now, as you are no longer in this NES and have nothing constructive to say, kindly leave the thread.

Lighten up guys.

I will lighten up once Imago stops favouring Perfectionist and allowing him to do whatever he wants.

Funny how Perfectionist will probably win the next several wars until Imago realises that such favouritism is unhealthy for a nes.

Bird, check your PM box

Bird, check your PM box

Check yours Kiddo!

Well, I'm kinda confused as to why the HCE's casualties are so low and why I was stopped so quickly. Also, Bulgaria doesn't seem to have made much of an impact at all on Khazaria, especially given the large land area and small army of Khazaria that was largely committed south. One would think they would have made much more headway. I guess surprise isn't enough. Next time I'll have to write a lot of stories.

They were low because virtualy the entire HCE army was killing Svearland. You were stopped so quickly because of terrain difficulties. Bulgaria didn't make as much headway as you would have liked because of its minor civil war, and because das left more troops then you might think at home for defense.

Nice update Imago. Wow, talk about a penalty for not sending orders. Ouch. Is it just me or is the entire world involved in Holy Wars? Mongols religion is war, making it a holy war. Crusades from Khazaria and Benjids, Bachiria, Tunis, Aegypt, Morocco, Axum, HCE, Svearland (which no longer exists) are all at war for religion. Wow, big influence in this game.

The Great Crusades: HCE, Iberia, Italia, Benjid Empire, Khazaria, Bachira vs. Aegypt, Tunis, Morocco, Byzantium, Bulgaria, Persia

If various alliances are triggered, England, Svearland, Norway, Denmark, Ireland and Finland will all enter next turn on the Trinitist/Yehudan side, and Scotland will come in de facto on the Ctha'r/Kyrian side. Also, if once considers Delhi to be on the Trinitist/Yehudan side for being at war with Persia, then Simhala and Bengal are both on the Ctha'r/Kyrian side. Axum seems to be the wild card, as it would have religious regions to enter the war on either side.

Big war, eh? :)

Considering the naval campaign with battles and such, the adverse weather conditions in Scandinavia that I mentioned in my orders and that you took no notice of and the like I fail to see why the Celtic-Dane army was so well supplies. Let alone the Rebels which quite frankly would of had traitors and the like (from loyalist Svearish).

It was mentioned, if very briefly. The reasons the effects of the weather were muted was because your navy quality was one, due to the recent rapid growth, and because the Dane fleets were leading the Celtic fleets, and the Danes were used to the same weather the Svears were.

@Everyone who has a complaint, mentioned or not: I know the update was sub-par, and I apoligize.

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To: Mongolia-Tibet
From: Silla

We agree to all but the first provision in your treaty. We would become your vassal state, but we do not wish to be annexed.

To: Holy Celtic Empire
From: Norwegien Rebels, Svear Rebels, Denmark

We agree to your treaty.

(Denmark wonders what possible use your nation could find for the Baltic Islands, but dosen't want to make an issue of it.)

To: Axum
From: Malagasya

Do not pretend you have the moral right. However, we are defeated, and we will agree to all your terms save one. You can keep the eco center at the north of our island, and a small buffer around it, but we need you to restore the rest of our island to us.

To Malagasya
From Axum

As this was not a war of conquest, but a war to save the oppressed minorities, we do not need to keep all of the land. We shall merely keep the north tip of the island so that we may ensure that never again will you oppress jews. We shall keep a northern buffer zone that is large enough for all jews and indians who so choose to live there.

In exchange for your capital and large tracts of country land, you shall cede us your colony on the mainland. We shall repatriate all people who desire to return to the rule of Malagasya, and as well send a shipment of aid over to you. However, we will not give up conquered lands without repayment, and as the island is more important to you, we shall take your colony instead.

Also, we remove the clause of exile of the king, simly his resignation of the throne. Finally, where do you get off telling us that we don't have moral right? We are treating the Indians under us as if they were Axumites. You on the other hand, oppressed Jews and Indians alike, and we have proof of this. So we would ask you NOT to tell us you are morally superior in this war.

To: Axum
From: Malagasya

You drive a hard bargain. Agreed.

To Bengal
From India

Once before you were a nation and you seized the path to greatness by joining with all the peoples of our great land. United India stood at the forefront of the world and the Bengali people were part of that greatness. You can be again. Let us lay down our arms and be as one nation again. You have suffered under the yoke of Tibet, and China and briefly Simhala. As part of India there will be no yoke; no second class citizenship. We will all be Indians together and rebuild the nation we once were.

Further war will only punish those you seek to protect and serve. We have no quarrel with Bengal and only seek to bring you home to Mother India. We are a rich nation and will share our riches with you. We seek prosperity and will share our prosperity with you. We seek peace and will share our peace with you. Together we will make India whole again and all our nation will share in the glory that is India and lead the world.

Take the hand that would lift you up.

To: The Kingdom of Delhi
From: Bengal

We will not give up our independance, after we have fought for it for so long. Perhaps a peace treaty can be worked out, but we will not go under forigin rule again.

To: African Scum
From: Iberia

We knew it was only a matter of time before you warmongers decided to invade peace loving Iberia. We will throw you out now. Good day.


ooc: Imago why can't I invest two eco into my project? Thats ridiculous. It would take half the nes to finish it. And I obviously needed it this turn or sooner. I would have figured raising more Crusaders cause there lands are under occupation. Now, I am back in the same boat as Assyria only less eco and more enemies.

ooc: Imago why can't I invest two eco into my project? Thats ridiculous. It would take half the nes to finish it. And I obviously needed it this turn or sooner. I would have figured raising more Crusaders cause there lands are under occupation. Now, I am back in the same boat as Assyria only less eco and more enemies.

Because if you could pay off projects as quickly as possible then the discount they give you on whatever you're trying to purchace wouldn't be fair. Stories are the only thing that can rush projects. Your project takes five turns because it does a lot. What can I say?

As for the Assyria analogy, don't forget that there, you had no allies. Here, you have six nations allied with you and in a position to help you out, and several others fighting the war on your side on distant fronts.

From: Scotland
To: England

Now perhaps you will realise the folly with which you entered into conflict with Svearland & Scotland. You are now in a conflict from which none of you and your backstabbing allies will emerge alive. We formally declare support of the Ctha'r/Kyrian alliance.

ooc: Did it turn out that England's blockade had been put in place last turn?

FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The People of Scotland

We warned you that this would happen. We warned you that your king was evil. Your king openly supports the infidels. He supports those who want to destroy Trinitism. He wants to replace Trinitism with Kyrianity. We hope that you will not allow him to carry out his plans. Overthrow him, and we will try to reach a peaceful conclusion in the War of the Isles.

FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The Apostate calling himself the King of Scotland

We wonder what the Byzantines promised you. That when we are gone you will inherit the British Isles? More the fool you. We notice that you persist in calling us back stabbers. We would remind you that the Empire has never attacked Scotland, and that Scotland broke an alliance, and a centuries old tradition of cooperation, by attacking Ireland. We suggest you look to your own behaviour before casting aspersions on others.


OOC: Shouldn't there be more repercussions from the king of Scotland's conversion to Kyrianity? After all, even now we wouldn't elect a Muslim president. In this period, I can't believe that the church and the nobles would allow an apostate king to reign. Loyalty to the church comes above loyalty to one's nation. Indeed, the idea of a nation doesn't really exist.

One more thing: stop writing HCE. It is The Holy Celtic Empire.

I will be switching to Bachia

ooc: Did it turn out that England's blockade had been put in place last turn?

No. There was no blockade. However, I only gave the orders a short rexamination, so there remains the possibility I am still wrong.

OOC: Shouldn't there be more repercussions from the king of Scotland's conversion to Kyrianity? After all, even now we wouldn't elect a Muslim president. In this period, I can't believe that the church and the nobles would allow an apostate king to reign. Loyalty to the church comes above loyalty to one's nation. Indeed, the idea of a nation doesn't really exist.

Most of the nobility and the important people of the Church know that their king's conversion was purely a political move, which allowed Byzantium to enter the war, and so, they're doing their best to keep the commoners quiet. However, there will be further complications from the conversion next update.

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To: The Kingdom of Delhi
From: Simhala, Bengal

You have won this war, that is clear beyond doubt. However, we ask you to be a merciful victor, and ask for peace terms both our nations can accept.

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The stats, the extras, and a brief edit of the update should all be posted within 24 hours. As my RL situation has calmed down, all further updates should proceed on schedule, and as of now, the deadline for next orders is still WedNESday.

From: Scotland
To: The Celtic Empire

True you never set foot in Scotland, but we have no doubt you knew all about the "Irish plot." We will waste no more time talking with villains.

*Scotland officialy will accept no more diplo from the "Holy" Celtic Empire*

So don't even bother writing it...

ooc: The bit about you are in a conflict from which you will not return was the part meant for you perfectionist.
My noblemen have their reasons... Also if you want to be uber-realistic you wouldn't be able to get these messages through, not only to our people but our nobles and our king, and we would not be able to send diplo like this to you. So lets just end this all. (I'll retitle that message to only England if it makes you happy...)
another ooc: A peaceful conclusion to the Battle of the Isles... surely you joke, I'm sure we all realize there can be no such thing... at least involving Scotland...

I will rejoin as Denmark.

Please note that I will not be taking any action AGAINST Perfectionist and will not radically change Denmark's character. I do however still think favouritism was involved in Svearland's demise, but as I gave das a second chance, I will give this a second chance as well.

I don't think sheep can be trusted with such a nation, i believe the only alternative is for him to join as the Pro-Scotland Anti-Trintist alliance county of Morocco :p

I don't think sheep can be trusted with such a nation, i believe the only alternative is for him to join as the Pro-Scotland Anti-Trintist alliance county of Morocco :p

You mean the nation of Ctha'rists? The people who despise all Trinitists? Remind me what religion the people of Scotland follow.

I disagree that there would be that much of a problem with the King's conversion to Kyrianity. Reference Clovis or the Viking Kings. Especially if the people are at war with a Trinitist entity, a Kyrian entity is trying to aid them, and there is already a Kyrian minority in Scotland (I assume, as there are Kyrian minorities in most countries, notably England according to the update, due to missionary action). Even so, I'm not terribly well acquainted with the history of Trinitism and its influence in Scotland, so I dunno. Another random point is that Kyrianity is a fairly attractive religion to all castes in society, by construct.

I apologize that PMs from all parties has not yet been answered, I will get around to it shortly, do not fear!

don't mid this post...

Screw it I take Persia instead. Much easier.

Not only that but enemy casualities are pitifully small compared to my own, which once again I take as favouritism in this towards the HCE.I have to agree with the casualty numbers. It does seem quite low.

I give out roughly one point of bonus per story, because I feel that stories are just as important to the NES as orders are. That said, I have been thinking for a while about implimenting a story 'curve' where after a number of stories it takes more then just one more story to get to that next bonus point, but as I said earlier, RL is rather complicated right now, so during this update I was not ready to impliment that practice.Agreed. After the second story it should require progressively more stories to get stat bonuses.

They were low because virtualy the entire HCE army was killing Svearland. You were stopped so quickly because of terrain difficulties. Bulgaria didn't make as much headway as you would have liked because of its minor civil war, and because das left more troops then you might think at home for defense.Terrain with light defenses shouldn't cause that much trouble, IMHO. But I won't try to change the way you moderate the NES.

To: African Scum
From: Iberia

We knew it was only a matter of time before you warmongers decided to invade peace loving Iberia. We will throw you out now. Good day.Good day to you. Accept that your gods are false. You will submit to the will of Amon-Ra by will or by force. It is nothing short of your ultimate destiny.

FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The People of Scotland

We warned you that this would happen. We warned you that your king was evil. Your king openly supports the infidels. He supports those who want to destroy Trinitism. He wants to replace Trinitism with Kyrianity. We hope that you will not allow him to carry out his plans. Overthrow him, and we will try to reach a peaceful conclusion in the War of the Isles.

FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The Apostate calling himself the King of Scotland

We wonder what the Byzantines promised you. That when we are gone you will inherit the British Isles? More the fool you. We notice that you persist in calling us back stabbers. We would remind you that the Empire has never attacked Scotland, and that Scotland broke an alliance, and a centuries old tradition of cooperation, by attacking Ireland. We suggest you look to your own behaviour before casting aspersions on others.


OOC: Shouldn't there be more repercussions from the king of Scotland's conversion to Kyrianity? After all, even now we wouldn't elect a Muslim president. In this period, I can't believe that the church and the nobles would allow an apostate king to reign. Loyalty to the church comes above loyalty to one's nation. Indeed, the idea of a nation doesn't really exist.

One more thing: stop writing HCE. It is The Holy Celtic Empire.Are you truly so closed-minded that you cannot comprehend people acknowledging religions other than Orthodox Trinitism?

You mean the nation of Ctha'rists? The people who despise all Trinitists? Remind me what religion the people of Scotland follow.Oh, we don't despise you. We'd just like you much more if you shared our beliefs.

*****

Great update Imago!

Are you truly so closed-minded that you cannot comprehend people acknowledging religions other than Orthodox Trinitism?
We shall accept other religions as soon as the Ctha'rists and the Kyrians cease their holy war and leave Trinitists alone. Until that time, we shall treat you as you treat us.

As long as that's cleared up then. *annoying smug smile*

I have to agree with the casualty numbers. It does seem quite low.

Aside from the invisible rebel losses, there's also the fact that the Svearish training was greatly lower then the Celtic coalition's training.

Agreed. After the second story it should require progressively more stories to get stat bonuses.

Starting with Update 4, I will begin using that system.

Terrain with light defenses shouldn't cause that much trouble, IMHO. But I won't try to change the way you moderate the NES.

Looking back over some things, the amount of territory conquered actually makes more sense then I initially thought. The Celts had ten-odd divisions in the area, and had a terrain advanage, and the Byzantines had twenty-odd divisions in the area. It wasn't as if one division single-handly stopped the conquest of Germany.

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Stats and first page extras are up; sorry for the delay. Deadline is as normal.

Bachia's UU: Berbic Warriors

They are the most powerful soldiers ever to come to the Middle East. Sometimes they ride horses/camels, other times they fight on foot. They weild a scimitar, a shield, and either a spear or a bow and arrows. They fight reckleesly, and they are devoted to the Yehudan faith.

The Bachirans aren't Ctha'ri, Nuclear kid. They're Yehudan, and they're currently involved in a religious war against the Ctha'ri faith.

oh...... I m changing

There is a mistake in my stats. I should have 20 Divisions and 1 Squadron.

Forgeting your contigency plan, are you? Svearland built a massive navy. The stats are right.

Ah, I was. Sorry.

I thought that Sheep was picking up Persia; is that still correct?

To the best of my knowledge he is still Persia.

“We do not hate the Jews for killing the Kyrios. We pity them.”
- Manidouros Alkmaenidos, 8th Century Theologos of the Kyriohippeis

“By the Will of God, Byzantium has stood, in some form, for a thousand years. God willing, it will stand for a thousand more.”
- Midian, Archon of Athens 687-707, Andromachoi (The Wars of Men)

“The Kyrios has come to bring Life to men, not Death. Yet what is this life but Death? And what is death but Life? It is the same with war. Kyrianity is not a violent religion. But Our Lord is a Protector and a Warrior and, as it is written, ‘There is a time for the plow and a time for the sword; the father must defend his children from the murderer; the Shepard must defend his sheep from the Wolf.’ Alexandros, blessed be his days, has done his children well.”
- Phillipos Constantinus, 8th Hierophant-Strategos of the Kyriohippeis

OOC: Stepping out shortly; hoping to get a story up when I return

To Persia
From Delhi

We propose a formal peace and 5 turn NAP.

To Delhi
From Persia

Of course once you remove yourself from the territory of Persia.

To Delhi
From Persia

Of course once you remove yourself from the territory of Persia.

To Persia
From Delhi

The land of the Indus valley that we occupy was once India and granted back to us by previous rulers of your land in exchange for peace. A peace that enabled Persia to survive a brutal war with the Benjids. We have shown our good faith with that arrangement and there has been no war on your eastern border for many years even though no formal peace has been made. If you wish to reopen the hostilities, our armies are ready.

To Delhi
From Persia

We will not allow the entirety of the territory to be taken from the Persian Kingdom. We will be posting our pefered borders shortly.

Actully on review of the map we find current borders to be satisfactory.
This would along with a 10 turn NAP and a mutual protection pact.

Thousands of apologies, but I haven't exactly been terribly involved in this NES lately (or in any NES apart from my own... I suppose I'll rectify this whole situation when I get more time and/or interest, but I'm still somewhat busy at present), sending only rather pathetic orders. As I still cannot rally much enthusiasm for it, I've decided to quit, opening the position of Khazaria for someone who could give it its due (and trust me, it is a very promising nation if it uses its opportunities properly).

Good luck modding this, Imago.

Thousands of apologies, but I haven't exactly been terribly involved in this NES lately (or in any NES apart from my own... I suppose I'll rectify this whole situation when I get more time and/or interest, but I'm still somewhat busy at present), sending only rather pathetic orders. As I still cannot rally much enthusiasm for it, I've decided to quit, opening the position of Khazaria for someone who could give it its due (and trust me, it is a very promising nation if it uses its opportunities properly).

If, well sorry to see you go.

Well, good luck with ITNES, das. I'm still lurking there. However, one thing I disagree with you on was the quality of your orders; they were better then many of my other players.

This reminds me... Time for one last general call to the lurking populace. Only 18 players now, and I would like to get the number over 20.

Denmark, Khazaria, Svearland, Ireland, Awakar, Simhala, and Srivijava are open, among other NPCs, and they all have interesting situations, to say the least.

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To: World
From: Bengal, Simhala

We would like to make public the fact that we have negotiated a peace with Delhi.

I have been away in Doha, Qatar..kinda lost intreast in this unfourtnatley. So not sure if my my nation is still alive but it is its open now.

Actully on review of the map we find current borders to be satisfactory.
This would along with a 10 turn NAP and a mutual protection pact.

To Persia
From Delhi

India agrees.

I have been away in Doha, Qatar..kinda lost intreast in this unfourtnatley. So not sure if my my nation is still alive but it is its open now.

They are dropping like flies...

I have been away in Doha, Qatar..kinda lost intreast in this unfourtnatley. So not sure if my my nation is still alive but it is its open now.

The Benjids are alive...sort of. They'll probably die next turn without you.

Down to 17 players now. If anyone wants a challenge, I recommend the Benjids, as they might be nearly dead, but they still do have three eco centers, and that might be enough to save them.

TO THE MONGOLS
FROM JAPAN

Japan requests for an end to these wars. We are willing to accept Mongolian dominance of the mainland and surrender the remaining strongholds in the mainland if you are willing to accept Japanese expansions in the sea. This is not a surrender but a simple peace... do you accept these terms?

TO THE MONGOLS
FROM JAPAN

Japan requests for an end to these wars. We are willing to accept Mongolian dominance of the mainland and surrender the remaining strongholds in the mainland if you are willing to accept Japanese expansions in the sea. This is not a surrender but a simple peace... do you accept these terms?

To Japan
From the Mongols

This peace is pleasing to us. We accept.

To Aegpyt
From Axum

While we may have our own temple, some of our own still wish to make pilgrimage to Har Hamoria (is that how to spell it in english AKA: The Temple Mount), which is under Aegyptian rule. May we have permission to do so safely, even in a time of war? Also, we would like to purchase some grain from your lands. What say you to this?

To Bachiria
From Axum

Jewish brothers of the East! Will you sign a trade agreement with us, so as to cement our role as trade power in the Indian Ocean/Red Sea, and as well help your economy?

To Axum
From Bachia

Sure, will you be giving us a set amountr of ep this turn or something?

To Axum
From Delhi

Debt repayment coming this turn. Thank you very much.

47 hours until deadline, 0/18 orders in.

Somewhat surprised by the lack of orders, considering.

TO CHU-NAN CHINA
FROM JAPAN

On the behave of the Japanese People. We have come to negotiate terms for the future. The island of taiwan, which falls into range of Japan following the Mongol-Japanese Treaty, yet, being a former chinese providence you will likely wish it to come under your control. If u give up your claims upon Taiwan, we will grant you the assistance of our navy in the possibility of war against all other countries except the Mongol Confederacy.

Are these terms agree-able?

Orders are being delayed this week due to unforseeable circumstances. Will be in tomorrow night or wednesday night at latest. maybe a few hours after the deadline, but wed. night nonetheless.

Mine will come tonight.

I'm actually going to switch to Awakar

Orders being sent

TO CHU-NAN CHINA
FROM JAPAN

On the behave of the Japanese People. We have come to negotiate terms for the future. The island of taiwan, which falls into range of Japan following the Mongol-Japanese Treaty, yet, being a former chinese providence you will likely wish it to come under your control. If u give up your claims upon Taiwan, we will grant you the assistance of our navy in the possibility of war against all other countries except the Mongol Confederacy.

Are these terms agree-able?

Just to check, you do know that regardless of treaties, the people of Taiwan won't accept Japanese dominance, right?

Just to check, you do know that regardless of treaties, the people of Taiwan won't accept Japanese dominance, right?

I know that... However, in the case of war... the citizens can be executed on suspision agaisnt the government, and if Chu-Nan allows the island to be surrender... The Chinese citizens can be evacuated and replaced by Japanese citizens... Gonna Deport those SOB's ;)

To Aegpyt
From Axum

While we may have our own temple, some of our own still wish to make pilgrimage to Har Hamoria (is that how to spell it in english AKA: The Temple Mount), which is under Aegyptian rule. May we have permission to do so safely, even in a time of war? Also, we would like to purchase some grain from your lands. What say you to this?

why do you wish to purchase grain? The Pilgramage will be allowed, considering the small numbers that it will be.

Imago if I drop the Economy part of my project can the other part be done this turn?

Yes. (tenchar)

Yes. (tenchar)

When I mean done. I mean no more eco spent on it.

Spend one last eco on the project this turn, and you'll be able to use all of the project's non-economy related benifits this turn however you might like.

EDIT: 24 hours until deadline. 2/17 orders in.

Orders have been sent. Let it be known that help is not needed in Iberia. :lol: *evil laughter*

Orders will be in Midnightish. (EST). in 4:20ish.

and so we can sell it at a surplus! also because we have recieved word from a prophet to stock up, a famine may be coming soon. (not sure if the prophet said in our land or a trade partner of ours, but either way.)

My first order set that's only one pm in length. I'm obviously not warring enough this turn...

Orders Sent

FROM: Byzantine Empire
TO: Khazaria

You have been humbled by the Kyrios. However, we offer you this chance for peace at current borders. Your navy is destroyed, your troops outnumbered and outclassed. Surrender now, and nothing more will be required other than your exit from our just war with the Benjids.

FROM: Byzantine Empire
TO: Benjids

You have lost the favour of God. You have corrupted His Message and He has seen fit to bring you low. Bow to the inevitable. Surrender now, for your own sake.

((Orders shortly))

To: Byzantium
From: The Benjid Empire

Never!

A Brief Overview of Kyrianity

“Learn thy genealogies, and do not be like the local peasants who, when they are asked who they are, reply: ‘I am from such-and-such a place.’ Rather, reply: ‘I am from such-and-such a man.’”
- Virtues 2:5-6

The Kyrian Ekklesia (or Church; more accurately Assembly) has evolved from the informal gatherings of believers in the times of the Old Empires into a rich tradition of education and worship. From the time of the Martyrdom (from the Greek martys, meaning “to witness”; in effect, the Time of the Witness) of the Kyrios, Iesous Christos (Jesus the Messiah), the central pillars of Kyrianity have been the Three Guardians.

“For I am the LORD your God, who will be called the Basileus Basileon, King of Kings, Lord of Lords.”
- 1 Chronicles 3:18

The first and foremost Guardian is, of course, Autogenes (Self-Creator). Other names include Theos (God), Hieron (Holiness, or Holy One), Archon Megas (Supreme Lord), among many other names. Autogenes is the top of the Kyrian Trinity, the Cause and Origin of all things. He is the First Guardian and rules over the universe as a benevolent and just Emperor. He protects his subjects from Evil and reveals his Truth to those who would seek it. It is from Autogenes that the other members of the Trinity originate. This aspect of Autogenes is commonly referred to as the Emperor or the Judge.

“And in His Wisdom, God delivered up Himself as atonement for Man’s sins. It was His Justice that demanded the Crucifixion, but it was His Mercy that supplied it.”
- St. Theodosius of Tarsus

The second Guardian is the Deliverer, Iesous. Iesous delivered Man from their rightful punishment for their many sins. As Autogenes is perfectly Just, a price was required for the crimes Man had committed. Yet as Autogenes is perfectly Merciful, he came to Earth incarnate in a man, the man Iesous. He offered his own life as punishment to bring the Ledger back into balance. He bore the full weight of Man’s Sin upon His shoulders, thus protecting Man from their own failings. This second part of the Trinity, as has been stated, is really merely another aspect of Autogenes himself. Whereas the first aspect of Autogenes is the Judge, Iesous is the Intercessor.

“And why should ye not fight in the cause of GOD and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Women and children, whose cry is: ‘Our LORD, rescue use from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!”
- 3 Chronicles 6:25-28

The final aspect of Autogenes embodied in the Trinity is the Warrior. Just as Man needs a Judge and Emperor to guide him in a holy life and an Intercessor to protect him from his own misdeeds, he needs a Warrior to protect him from the misdeeds of others, particularly apostates and nonbelievers who would harm their fellow man. Interestingly enough, it is a pagan who has been determined to most represent the Warrior Kyrios sent by God. After years of investigation into his personal writings, Kyrian theologoi determined that Constantinus I rejected his pagan beliefs based on their superstitious and irrational nature and had studied intensely foreign religions including Judaism. It is believed that this led to the ancient alliance between Israel and Byzantium that has so puzzled historians.

It is also believed that Constantinus I was the first (and only human) Prophet of Kyrianity and heralded the coming of Iesous in his own lifetime (as evidenced by personal reflections on the nature of Judaism, the coming of the Messiah, and personal thoughts on the nature of sin and the divine). Further evidence appears in the epithet “Jew-Lover” given to his son Basil I for his stubborn loyalty to Israel in the Nilotic War (it is not known whether Basil considered himself Jewish, however it is known that Constantinus corresponded with him on the matter). The interest in the Kyrios continued during the Pagan Era through the emperors, with the Early Kyrians arriving in Greece at Emperor Patrocles’ I invitation.

As a result, Constantinus I is considered the founder of Kyrianity in Byzantium and his writings, both philosophical and prophetic, are taken along with other writings as sacred in Kyrianity. It is important, however, to make the distinction that Iesous is believed to be God Incarnate, whereas Constantinus was merely God’s faithful servant, inspired by His Warrior Aspect. The Trinity is that of Lord, Saviour, and Warrior. Some theologoi have proposed a rough analogy of Father, Son, and Guiding Spirit.

“By the Will of God, Byzantium has stood, in some form, for a thousand years. God willing, it will stand for a thousand more.”
- Midian, Archon of Athens 687-707, Andromachoi (The Wars of Men)

Kyranity’s relationship with Byzantium has been quite a long one and by 700 AD it was so completely ingrained within society that it difficult to find a peasant that knows anything about the pagan gods that existed before, whereas the history of the rise of Kyrianity and the exploits of its first proponent, St. Constantinus, are known throughout even the illiterate countryside population.

“We do not hate the Jews for killing the Kyrios. We pity them.”
- Manidouros Alkmaenidos, 8th Century Theologos of the Kyriohippeis

Kyranity’s relationship with Judaism is another matter entirely. Despite coming from Jewish tradition (indeed, Kyrian theology holds that Iesous was a good Jew), Kyrianity believes that many prophecies held by the Jews were fulfilled in Iesous and Constantinus, the one the savior of the men’s souls, the other the victorious conqueror who would establish a glorious realm for believers. Even so, Kyrians do not hate Jews. In fact, Jews are allowed to practice their faith in Byzantium more freely than most minority religions - which is not to say others are persecuted, rather that Jews mesh with Byzantine society (one that is inextricably tied with faith) more easily than other religions. The Kyrian view is simply that Jews love and worship the same Kyrios God, but lack a complete understanding of His will.

From what I have seen/heard, update will have a twist.

Orders being typed up. Should come earlier than expected.

EDIT: Mediocre orders sent. Could be longer in the section concerning Aegypt and HCE.

Orders sent.

How long until deadline? I am busy updating.... please keep this in mind.

11/17 orders in. 7 and a half hours until deadline.

@Sheep: If you can only get orders in a couple hours after the deadline, don't worry. I can't wait much longer then that, however.

Orders sent.

I guess Khazaria rejected our peace offer, then?

Orders incoming.

Orders in.

3 PMs of orders have been sent.

3 PMs of orders have been sent.

Death to those that oppose us.

Indeed. And now for a fairly pointless story.

*****
The sound of swords echoed through the courtyard. A lanky youth was dueling a massive older man. The youth held his own for a while, but was gradually beaten down by the others man's greater strength. The youth ducked a swing, then rose, only to catch the big man's sword in the side. The youth fell to the ground, coughing. The big man leaned non-chalantly on his sword as the youth looked up at him, holding his side. “You all right Charles?” the big man asked. Charles nodded. “I think so,” he said shakily. “You're lucky,” the big man roared. “If this was a real sword, you'd be dead.”

Charles scrambled to his feet, still holding his side. “I'm sorry Arnulf,” he said. He rubbed his side and winced. “But it isn't really fair. You are much bigger than me,” he continued somewhat plaintively.

Arnulf scoffed. “If you're ever in a battle, you can't count on being the biggest man. You have to be better than the other man. Now come on, do it again.”

The seventeen year old Charles readied himself and they began again. This time, it was an even fight for a while. Then, Charles parried a particularly fierce blow from Arnulf and launched a furious counter attack. Arnulf parried for a moment, but then Charles managed to disarm him and hit him in the stomach, sending him to the ground. For a moment the two stares at each other, then Arnulf broke out in laughter.

“Ha, well done lad,” Arnulf said. He stood up and winced slightly as he held his hand. “Well done. We'll break for lunch now, then come train some more.” He clapped Charles on the back and they walked out of the courtyard laughing. They were forced to halt at the door, however, by the sudden appearance of the Emperor. Arnulf jumped back in surprise and bowed hastily.

“Ah Arnulf, I was looking for you. How is my son doing?” Pepin asked.

“Oh, very well sire. He beat me just now, and I haven't met many men who could do that.” Charles beamed at the praise.

Pepin stared at his son. “Good, good. I think that is enough for today though. Take the rest of the day off.” Arnulf bowed and moved away, and Charles began to follow him, but was halted by the Emperor. “Stay here,” Pepin said, “I need to have a word with you.”

Charles turned back to Pepin. Pepin said sternly, “I understand that you have been skipping your classes again to go off hunting or come play with weapons.”

“Yes sire,” Charles said sheepishly.

“Why?”

“Well” Charles halted for a moment, then continued, “Because they're boring. Hunting and fighting is much more fun.”

Pepin sighed. “I don't care if you find them boring. You will be the Emperor eventually. The Emperor should never have to fight; that is why we have soldiers. There is far more to being the Emperor than knowing how to swinging a sword or ride a horse. How do you expect to rule later if you do not learn anything now?”

“I'm sorry,” Charles said meekly.

“Don't be sorry,” Pepin snapped. “Just do better in the future.”

“I will try.”

I guess Khazaria rejected our peace offer, then?

Indeed, we have.

You see a tattered book, loosely bound, this is the personal journalAagen, of the Merchants Guild of Thebes.

Today I met a man who said he was from the far east, he was a trade of sorts, and did not look like a Persian or a Indian. He showed me his wares and I quickly bought them up, fine spices and this material known as silk. These are luxurious goods, fit for Kings themselves.
- 1st of Chaios

Today, on the feast of the Prophet (may we forever remeber his words, and wisdom). I managed to talk to aristocrats and other richs nobles. I showed them this fine silk, and presented one, named Ki'th with a small selection of spices and silk. He was pleased infact, I'm just glad that these peoples desire the goods so badly, I must find another trader from the east
-7th Chaios


My goods slowly dwindle, I am charging more and more, but they seem to throw money at the problem, I have made a good bit of gold of this simple transaction alone, however I worry that another merchant from the east will not come through in days.
-5th Ithauer

I met another trader, this time I paid slighly less for my goods, it was still quite a price, but the other trader still seemed slightly suprised by what I payed him, he told me that the roads though the Benjid lands and Persia are difficult, what with King Kheti fighting there, he did not seem to understand why King Kheti had invaded, but I don't think this man knew about Amon-Ra either.
-29th Ithauer

Buisness is good, I have been able to expand into selling Grain to the Axumites, using my profits from the Spice and Silks bought. I still get nobles coming to me asking for some, I have written a list, and the price these nobles have promised to pay, thank god my father taught me to read and write!
-11th Ounter

These Axumites are really eating up this grain, I have heard that somebody predicted a great drought, or some other great famine. I have begun to stockpile grain in the granaries. Such a famine would allow me to sell grain on at great price.
-14th Ounter

I sold a portion of grain to the Army, more supplies and stockpiles, one of the soldiers who ordered it from me (a mere sergant), broke into a smile when he saw the grain. Apparantly the stuff they grow in Italy doesn't quite taste as good, must be the climate, I hear white stuff carpets the ground in the late months, they call it snow.
-18th Ounter

I got more spices and silk today, I managed to make a large profit on this, and I have had more nobles coming to secure prestiege. I even had some love-struck fool willing to give me everything, so he could impress some lady. Ahh Youth.
-30th Ounter

OOC: That was fun :p

17/18 orders in. Deadline here.

Only three people sent more then one PM of orders this time around. IMHO, it should be easy to guess who those three are. :p

Me, Kalthy and LittleBoots? Whose orders were the longest?

And now for another largely pointless story.

*****

“Your majesty, the English minister has arrived,” a herald announced. Pepin looked up from his discussion with his advisers. “Very good.” Pepin broke up the discussion and prepared himself. “Send him in.” The herald bowed and left the room. A minute later, the minister entered, flanked by two other Englishmen. He motioned to his guards to stay by the door and approached the Emperor. “Greetings Lord Alfred. Welcome back to Paris,” Pepin said warmly.

Alfred bowed and said, “Thank you, your majesty. I am exceedingly delighted to return to Paris. A wonderful city, I have always thought. I hear that Bernhard died since I was last here.” Pepin nodded sadly. “You have my condolences. He was irreplaceable.”

“Indeed,” Pepin said. “But he was almost one hundred years old. It was to be expected. Happily, he did not live to see these dark times.”

“Yes, he was very old of course. Still, I had almost begun to think the old man intended to live forever.” Alfred was lost in a reverie for a moment, then shook himself and said, “And how is the young Prince? I haven't seen him here.”

“He is fine. He is in Germany at the moment, fighting the Kyrians. Which brings us to the reason for your visit. Loath though I am to depart from the pleasantries, we must turn to business. What has Egbert decided?”

“I am sorry to report,” Alfred said, looking very sorry indeed, “that His Grace has decided that he cannot make peace with the Scots. He will not trust them under any circumstances.”

Pepin was unhappy, but not altogether surprised by this. “Ah well, he may be right. At the least, the Scots will benefit from English rule. What of the other matter?”

“His Grace has further decided that he is unable to spare any troops at the moment. He fears that Kilworth Hills will be repeated unless he overwhelms the Scots entirely.”

“That is... unexpected,” said Pepin with distaste.

“His Grace hopes that the Holy Celtic Empire can hold off the heathens until Scotland is pacified, at which time English troops can be sent.”

“We will, of course, do our best. With the gods on our side, we may even succeed.”

“I am sorry to bear this news, Your Majesty. I wish circumstances were otherwise. But I do have one piece of good news.”

“Oh really? What?”

“It is an item, actually. Your guards would not allow us to bring it into your presence, so I left it outside with one of my men. If you will come outside, we can demonstrate it.”

“Is that really necessary Alfred. Why don't you just tell me what this thing is?”

“It's a surprise, Your Majesty,” Alfred said with a smirk. “Besides, I think the effect will be better if you actually see it in action.”

Pepin thought for a moment. “Oh very well,” he said, “let's go see this item of yours.”

Pepin, Alfred and their various attendants left the room and walked outside. Alfred shouted to a man standing some distance away from the door, who ran over. He was carrying a long bundle, wrapped in a cloak. “Show the Emperor,” Alfred said. The man unwrapped the bundle, revealing a bow.

Pepin was somewhat annoyed by this revelation. “A bow,” he said. “That is the great surprise? You know, we have bows, Alfred.”

“Ah, but it is not a normal bow Your Majesty. It's a longbow.”

Pepin remained unimpressed. “So it's a slightly larger bow.”

Alfred smiled. “Wait until you see it in action. Show him,” he said brusquely to the man with the bow. He nodded and strung the bow quickly, then nocked an arrow. Pepin was noticed that the bow was larger than he had though, being as tall as the archer. “A much larger bow,” he murmured. Alfred looked at him and smirked, then nodded to the archer. The archer quickly drew and loosed his arrow, then loosed another almost before the first had reached the ground. Pepin stared in amazement. The arrows from the longbow had gone much farther than any he had seen before.

“And that, Your Majesty, is the longbow,” Alfred said smugly.

“How long have you had this weapon?” Pepin demanded.

“The Welsh have been using it for some time, but His Grace has but lately become aware of its efficacy. We are now introducing it into our army. And we are ready to ship large numbers of bows, as well as people to train your men in their use and the method of their manufacture, to you. The first shipments should be arriving within a month.”

Pepin had recovered from his initial surprise. “That is exceedingly generous of England. You were right, Alfred. This is very good news.” He laughed suddenly. “The Ctha'rists have never seen anything like this before.

Oh your Perfectionist, definitly yours. I had 2PM's though I referred to Tactics in previous order sets also. so maybe 2.5.

I tend not to go into excessive detail. nice stories btw.

On the flip side, we HAVE seen Composite bows :p.

The Fort was a dry place, Adils had survived the last years although when word arrived that the Bachirians threatned his home, he had been moved to a fort near the front lines. He had been assigned to get supplies one day, and he had taken a week.

This was not because Adils was scared of these zealous Arabs, no, he had gone to secure help, he had pleaded with members of his family, some had agreed, most did not wish to help, or could not. All in all he had managed to get another 20 men, no 21, this last man, Lather, had been bullied into it by his wife, he was a scared man however, he might run at the first sign of trouble. Adils knew the Aegyption Officer would have him assigned to some safe place, away from trouble, away from where he could spread his fears.

He ended up buying grain from a man called Aagen, A merchant from Thebes, he had smiled and welcomed buisness with the army, and enquired as to how life was, they talked for a bit Adils worried about the Bachirians, Aagen had smiled again and said that "In this, we stand together,". This had suprised Adils, he did not expect such nobility of person from a trader, a Ctha'rist one at that. Some of his family were also suprised. It cast the conflict with the Aegyptions in a new light, but it also sublty changed the conflict with the Bachirians.

When he returned to the fort, its population had grown somewhat, this was due to a small entrouge for a man named Khaba, an Officer of the Temple Guard. And more Recruits, apparently he was not alone in asking family, those few that had agreed to help protect what mattered to them had grown into those who would not see what mattered to them threatened.

Adils met Khaba again when the new recruits were practicing with their weapons, Khaba oversaw them. Adils and Khaba had a duel. Adils was beaten, but Khaba smiled at him, impressed by his effort. "You are an able soldier, I respect you for that, and with that alone you have my respect,".

Curious fellow.

Khaba moved on a bit later, he was returning to Aegypt, apparently he had some buisness to attend to.

Adils remained in the fort, with the recent influx of men he had been promoted to Sergant, due to his experiance and the good impression he made with Khaba. The Resident Aegyption Officer had smiled and congratulated him, Khaba was hard to please.

OOC: I hope that this was lets me have Adils promoted to a higher rank :D

Me, Kalthy and LittleBoots? Whose orders were the longest?


Yep for the names of the players.

Oh your Perfectionist, definitly yours.

And Kal guessed right for the second part.

The Great Khan was dead. His death came upon the twilight of the conquest of the nations that opposed the great Khan. The Mongolian-Tibetan Confederacy ruled both the Steppe and the Middle Kingdom in all but in name. Japan retreats across the sea, and the Sillense prepare for their last stand.

Yet the Great Khan is dead, and the Generals of the Empire have gathered, leaving their respective campaigns in the hands of capable liutenents. They come to Karakorum, to the Kurultai of Sucession.

A great number of warlords from both Tibet and Mongolia, along with a few prominant pro-Mongolian statesmen were gathered in the cold steppe, in the open space in the center of the nomadic capital. A chair of white felt was laid out in the center, and beyond it, a simple throne.

From a tent, the twenty six year old Temujin walked proudly into the large gathering of warlords, followed by Bhrikuti, the daughter of Songtsen Gampo, the mad king of Tibet, from whom Temujin inheirited the Tibetan lands (although he continued to serve his father, as he was still heir).

He smiled at his supporters, already knowing the outcome.

"I move to elect Temujin, heir of Yesugei the Brave, to the throne of Khan!" yelled one major warlord. With a roar of approval, the group recorded its vote by breaking nearby civilians ear drums. An easy smile broke upon Temujin's face, and he promptly sat upon the white felt chair, as was custom.

The warlords raised him up into the air three times upon the chair, before carrying him around the entirety of Karakorum. When the march was over, they laid a golden sword at his feet.

Raising it up into the air, Temujin declared to his generals, "I declare myself the heir to Yesugei, and Khan of the Mongol-Tibetan Confederacy!" Pointing his sword at the Chinese representatives, they stepped forward, knowing their part.

The Chinese representives laid a silver sword at his feet, and Temujin grasped with his other hand, "And with this, I declare myself Emperor of Yuan, Master of All Under Heaven!"

With a mighty roar, the warlords and civilians cheered, and Temujin sat down into his throne. Motioning for silence, he brought an Iron Faced Demon from the side, where he was holding an important object with great reverance on a small cushion. Taking the object, Temujin raised it high into the air.

A silence overtook those in attendance, as they beheld the completely Black Mask, a mask made from the darkest obsidian. The moment held, before Temujin slowly put it onto his face, putting his fearsome helmet on to keep the mask in place. In his simple throne, his helmet and mask made him seem like the very element of fear and power.

His strong, deep voice carried as he cried out his next proclamation, "I now declare myself Khagan [1] of the Iron Face Empire, the invicible union of All Under Heaven, and the Northern Horse herds! Our empire will forever grow, for as long as our armies are strong, and strike fear into the hearts of man! By the will of the Eternal Blue Heaven, so mote it be!"

It was silent for but a moment, but then, a resounding cheer rang throughout the capital. For a long time, the steppes were just a group of warring tribes fighting amongst themselves, and the Tibetans were united, but disunified underneath weak kings. Yet now, both of the Northern peoples had an identity. They were the Iron Face Empire.

They were the Masked. They were Demons.

[1]: Emperor, or King of Kings

Khaba had been sent home, under orders of King Kheti, and for what? To train nobles, to train insuffrable fools. To Train these pompous jackass's.

Three orders had been founded, He was training men who had joined the ranks of the Mythic Dawn; Knights of.

They were pious men, The Perceptor, the former abbot, new title, same job, had been a military man, who had turned to Amon-Ra. Now he had found a way of mixing the two together. He had begun an order of Knight-Priests. Using the Abbeys and its related lands and money to fund the change. Lastly he had petitioned Knig Kheti. He who was most connected to God. He wished to know if this sin was not too great, not too much. He had been granted allowance, on the circumstance that he put this profit to good cause.

He Already knew that this would be going to a good cause. He began to loan money out to people. Some nobles had already borrowed some money. One poor love-struck fool had borrowed money to buy some silk, ahh Youth.

He next began to expand the monks. Khaba was brought in to train the men, on how to be the best, or at least better than most, few could match Khaba. Minor nobility sent their men to gain Presitge and honour. Those who nobles who were threatned with destruction pledged their families and lands to the Order. Major Nobility, those powerfull few rarely sent men to the Orders, only when a family member was disgraced were they forced into this exile. They were the worst to train, but they could be moulded.

These men were also religious men, deeply religious. As they were taught in combat, they were also taught in scripture, in theological matters. They were taught that the other religions, they could not be forced with a sword, the armies, the men, could be swept aside. But as Amon-Ra is all, and all is Amon-Ra, they were taught they all worship Amon-Ra anyway, they just need this revealed to them. And like a child who is learning to walk, you encourage it, you do not hit it, lash out.

The Orders Grew, and flourished, a lending service put to good deeds.

OOC: I hope to create an NPC, basically one of the Knight orders, make them a buffer zone between myself and whatever remains of the Trinitists.

3 pm's of orders :eek:

thats 30 000 characters.... my god....

ooc: Farow how long have the orders you've been sending in been? Mine are probably about a page in word... then again i am not the HCE or Aegypt...

ooc: Farow how long have the orders you've been sending in been? Mine are probably about a page in word... then again i am not the HCE or Aegypt...

Yours and his are about equal.

The Iron Face Empire

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2587/ironfaceempirexd4.jpg

Looking good.

I need to figure out my next step of Evolution.

3 pm's of orders :eek:

thats 30 000 characters.... my god....
Not three full PMs, so somewhat less than 30,000.

*****

The scouts had returned two hours ago, bearing the news that a Byzantine force was bearing down on them. Since then, they had been feverishly preparing. Lothar was digging a ditch, to repel the damned cataphracts, when the cry of 'enemy sighted' went up. He immediately abandoned his work. Throwing away his shovel, he climbed out of the ditch, retrieved his pike and fell into rank. There was then a slight pause before the Byzantines appeared, in which Lothar considered the situation. The thousand men of Lothar's division, fresh volunteers mostly, had been marching to the Danube when they heard that they had been cut off. A messenger had been dispatched to the nearest large concentration of friendly units, but Lothar knew that no help would come in time. They had no choice but to fight. The officers, at least, were experienced and had drawn up the men on the edge of a clearing. The Byzantines would come out of the forest on the other side, and would have to charge up a slight rise to reach the Celts. Lothar had been in many battles, and he liked their position.

His thoughts were cut short as the Byzantine army loomed out of the forest. Lothar cursed as he looked at the enemy. There were at least two thousand of them, and cataphracts were prominent among them. He turned to look down the line, and saw the man next to him, no more than a boy really, shaking with fear. “Don't be afraid lad. I've been in worse places than this and come through,” he said encouragingly. “Really?” asked the boy in a quavering voice. “Sure,” Lothar replied, with a confidence that he did not feel. “Look, their cavalry aren't any good against us pikes, and their infantry can't stop our archers. We'll be fine.” The boy settled a bit, and Lothar turned his attention back to the Byzantines. They had begun to advance, in one long line, cavalry at the fore. Lothar smiled. Apparently they thought tactics would be wasted on the Celts. The Byzantines closed to four hundred yards. Lothar heard the officers at the rear, telling the archers to prepare.

At three hundred yards, the Byzantine cavalry charged. Lothar heard a dim cry of 'loose!' and a volley flew over his head into the oncoming Byzantines. Some of them were surely struck, but to Lothar it seemed that they came on undamaged. At one hundred yards, they paused slightly, and Lothar wondered why for a moment. Then from behind the screen of cavalry came a hail of arrows. Lothar cursed. They must have had some horse archers hidden in the main group. Not many, not enough to really damage the Celts. But they were raw troops, not veterans, and the sudden arrows scared them. Some were killed, others dropped their pikes, and others stepped out of formation. The result was that the Celtic pikemen were not presenting the solid mass of steel that was intended, but were disorganised. Lothar kept his wits, as did the boy beside him. He was aware of the chaos around him, but stayed focused on the Byzantines, who had resumed their full tilt charge after the arrows were fired. The front rank of lancers cleared the half finished ditch, and Lothar braced himself. At the last moment, the horse in front of Lothar tried to shy away from his pike, preventing the full force of his charge from hitting Lothar. Instead, the horse impaled itself on Lothar's pike. The boy at his side was not so lucky. A lance struck him in the face. Lothar looked at him and cursed, then took in the battlefield.

The Byzantine cavalry charge had broken the Celtic formation, but not without bad casualties. Many horses were dead, and many others were now surrounded by Celtic troops and trying to escape. Lothar ignored them. Their work was done. The Celts were disorganized, and now the infantry would clean up the rest. Lothar turned around, to see the mass of the Byzantine infantry closing. He tried shouted at the men near him, to try to rally them to face the new threat, but was not very successful. The Byzantine infantry struck the Celts while many of them were still looking at the cavalry. The Celts were pushed back. Lothar killed one Byzantine as he was fighting another man, threw a dropped javelin at another and cut down another as arrows rained down, but he knew it was hopeless. The fight had turned into a brutal, unorganized melee, and in a few minutes the Celts would all be dead.

“They are fighting on the rise,” the horseman reported. “The battle is lost.” “Then we have no time to lose,” Charles said angrily. He called to his captains, ordering them to get the men in line. A messenger had staggered into the camp an hour ago, bearing the news. The officers at the camp had been inclined to regretfully write off the division, but Prince Charles had overruled them. Charles was not going to allow brave volunteers to be killed at the hands of the Byzantines. And so he had put a force of five hundred heavy cavalry together and set off. The men were tired; many had already been riding for days; but for Charles they were willing to move heaven and earth. They had traveled at a breakneck pace through the forest to try to reach the beleaguered Celts. Having done so much, Charles was not going to fail. The cavalry drew up in a line, with Charles at the fore, and began to advance. They reached the edge of the of the clearing, and saw the battle taking place at the other edge. Charles paused for a moment upon seeing the battle. He then gave a great cry of “For the Empire and the Trinity!” and kicked his horse into a gallop. His men echoed the cry and followed their leader. The whole force charged towards the Byzantine rear, Charles at the head.

Lothar killed another Byzantine, his fifth, but he knew the battle was almost over. He turned, and a Byzantine sword caught him in the side. He feel to the ground and put his hands over the wound in a vain attempt to stop the bleeding. The Byzantine soldier looked at Lothar, then moved away. He could tell that Lothar would be dead within minutes. As Lothar lay dying, he listened to the sounds of the battle around. He thought for a moment that he heard a cry in Celtic from the other side of the field, but dismissed is as a hallucination. There was some sort of commotion further up the rise. He could hear Celtic voices shouting, and to his surprise they sounded happy. He than heard the Byzantines begin to shout. He did not speak Greek, but he could tell that officers were trying to get their men together. Byzantine troops began to run past him, going the other way, back where they had come from, and Lothar thought this odd. The shouting in Greek continued, and Lothar thought he heard a note of panic entering. Shortly, Byzantines began to run past him again, this time going the other way. He was just thinking that the enemy officers must have gone mad, when a cavalry man appeared in his field of vision and cut down a fleeing Byzantine. He heard more horses on all sides of him, and now the shouts in Greek had disappeared, replaced by screams. As the light finally died for Lothar, he heard Celtic voices raised in shouts of victory.

The Iron Face Empire

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Sorta Taunting to me that the turn I had hoped would utterly kill you went so bad... That last turn before the war. I had it all planned out... I wonder wat i did wrong. Was it my armies poor quality. My strategy? It was actually quite inventive i suppose but in the end i failed.

Nice banner though.

Hope I made it :p

Got orders in from Azash, so, everyone sent in their orders. :D The update is proceeding very well. I just have half the spotlight left to do.

EDIT: Yes, Azash, you made it. ;)

Oh your Perfectionist, definitly yours. I had 2PM's though I referred to Tactics in previous order sets also. so maybe 2.5.

I tend not to go into excessive detail. nice stories btw.

IMO, anything over 1 PM probably includes "excessive detail," unless you've got quite the world-spanning empire. I think my longest was probably about 3/4 of one. Mine this time were pretty short, even for me, for the situation I'm in. Of course, being on the defensive--and especially with long fronts--more vagueness is necessary.

Imago: ETA? :D

Imago, I suppose it would have been better to ask this before this turn, but do you want us to give orders all the way down to tactics? I didn't as I figured strategy was good enough (and while my orders were over 1 PM, the majority were actually domestic things). I figured tactics, etc, would be covered in army quality (of which I have the best in the world).

Perfectionist, I liked the story, but I think we'll make a slightly better showing than that ;) Tactically, of course. Strategically... we shall see, I suppose.

Might as well get a war story up then...

Nice story (apart from the obvious god modding, I hope it was just a tool to kill off Lothar). I wonder what happened, probably celtic reserves brought in, assuming the byzantines lost their formation. And they left the Horses in the fray, and and and :p

Of course a lot of the above is explained by saying it was a fierce melee which didn't let the cavalry escape. :D

Also explains why fresh celtic reserives could defeat the byzantines.

Nice story (apart from the obvious god modding, I hope it was just a tool to kill off Lothar). I wonder what happened, probably celtic reserves brought in, assuming the byzantines lost their formation. And they left the Horses in the fray, and and and :p

Of course a lot of the above is explained by saying it was a fierce melee which didn't let the cavalry escape. :D

Also explains why fresh celtic reserives could defeat the byzantines.

However it also conveniently forgets about the infantry that were there, as well as the discipline of the army and the wariness of the commanders (who would maintain a balanced rearguard). Then again, I'm sure it was just Lothar hallucinating that they were winning to feel better about his imminent departure to Hell.

What? Shoulda been Kyrian :D

Imago: ETA?

I have no idea at this point, honestly. No later then 24 hours from now, certainly, but it might be quite a bit less.

Imago, I suppose it would have been better to ask this before this turn, but do you want us to give orders all the way down to tactics? I didn't as I figured strategy was good enough (and while my orders were over 1 PM, the majority were actually domestic things). I figured tactics, etc, would be covered in army quality (of which I have the best in the world).

Writing tactics just tends to invisibly boost your army quality for the turn. Whether or not you need that boost is up to you.

Nice story (apart from the obvious god modding, I hope it was just a tool to kill off Lothar).

So it's god-modding to have a single deluded Celtic belive that the Celts won a battle? :p

EDIT: LittleBoots beat me to it.

:p of course!

The fog was heavy on the south German field this early in the morning. I stood quietly in the mud as the Theologos Kyriohippein Thorakis gave the blessing for battle. Standing in shining armour before the army, an iron cross adorning his chest, Thorakis had a commanding presence and booming voice. When he spoke, one knew God Himself was listening.

“Guardian Iesous, Our God, have mercy on us. Come to the aid of us Kyrians, making us worthy to rise up and fight to the death for our faith and our brethren by fortifying and strengthening or souls, our hearts, and our whole body. The mighty Lord of Battles, incomparable in power, fill our minds with wisdom and let us know the power of your glory. Deliver us, O Lord, from Your enemies through the intercession of the Self-Created God from Whence You came, and of all the Saints, Amen.”

He mounted his horse and took his place in the line of battle. It was then that He appeared. Sauntering slowly along the lines, inspecting the troops. Emmanuel, the Jews would say. God with us. Perhaps not God, but God’s Man on Earth. Alexandros was an aging man, and yet his eyes were as bright as ever. There was something of a twinkle in his eyes. He finished looking over the men and said nothing. He didn’t need to. Alexandros had shared the same tents, the same meals, the same lives as these men since the beginning of the Great Crusade. Here was a man who led the entire Kyrian world, Master of all the Greeks. For many, Alexandros was the Lord of the Earth, or at least what mattered of it. And yet here he was.

In the beginning, the men had their doubts. Alexandros was older, even then, than most of them and yet had spent far less time in the field. He had spent most of his early years in the Great Palace at Constantinopolis, running the business of the Empire from his luxurious capital. This man, they said, he’s going to get himself killed. Thanks be to God, he has not yet. Alexandros knew the minds of his men and it was his own personal Crusade to prove himself. Imagine! Lord of Earth proving himself to men like us! And yet, he did. He sat with us at meals and listened with us when the Theologos spoke. He himself delivered sermons and yet afterwards would discuss them. As if a mere mortal could debate with the likes of an Emperor! And what insights he had! To be expected, I’m sure, from the most learned Kyrian in the world. The man was practically born to the wrong century. Surely, the Great Age of Philosophy claimed him as its own. Autogenes merely allowed us to borrow him. God have mercy on us when it’s his time to return.

As we began to advance, the horse archers turned day into night with their arrows. Perhaps the Celts fear the night, I do not know. While the Kyrios protects us, however, no Greek heart will fear the Darkness.

My name is Aristippus Phillipon[1] and I am prepared to die.

“Kyrie Iesou Christe, o Theos imon, eleison imas”

Guardian Jesus the Saviour, our God, have mercy on us.

[1]Son of Phillp

***

Outside the window of his personal chambers, the Emperor could hear the howls of men, thirsty for blood and revenge. The Emperor, a thin man of small height and quite old watched from the window as down below in the courtyard, his royal guards were torn to shreds by a rebellion or worse, the guards joined the rebels in their fight to overthrow the emperor.

Down below, a guard falls to his knees, an arrow protruding from his throat. The Rebellion was made up of the people of Kyoto and disloyal soldiers, hardened veterans from the front. Men who faced the Iron-Faced Demons, but worse for the Emperor, they had beaten the demons and now they wanted him.

This had all started when Shogun Han and the remnants of his battered army returned home. The Emperor, angered by Han, who had negotiated peace with the Mongols after his victory at Pyongyang against the Emperor’s wishes, was to be sentenced to death.

But instead of dying with honor, the Shogun had raised his tired army for one last battle. Now the Shogun was past the palace gates, and the Emperor’s end was near.

Rebels spilled into the palace over the bodied of dead guards. Torches clasped in their hands. Pikes and bows and arrows. Swords and daggers. The courtyard was red. The sun was dropping in the distance. From the stairway, the Emperor could hear the sounds of foot coming up the stairs.

---

“BROTHERS!!!”

The crowd cheers as Han, Shogun of Japan, Victor of Pyongyang, stood at the top of a tower. The Emperor next to him, bruised and cut, held by rope. The Shogun addressed the crowd as a god, a dagger in his hand and a grand tone in his voice.

“TONIGHT! LET US HAVE REVENGE ON THE MAN WHO LED OUR PEOPLE TO SLAUGHTER! I PRESENT! THE EMPEROR!”

The Emperor is pushed forward, the crowd below bellows with anger and laughter, their former leader reduced to nothing. And soon that will be all he is.

“WHEN I RETURNED! THIS MAN WISHED MY HEAD ON A PIKE!”

The crowd yells taunts and insults to the Emperor. Who all the while has his face down. The Shogun grabbed his back the back of his robe, worn by all great emperors.

“WHO HERE WISHED TO SEE HIS HEAD ON A PIKE!!!”

The crowd yells up, laughing, yelling, all mixing into a melody of death. The Shogun grinned. The people were tired of their emperor. His leadership had destroyed Japan nearly. Now it was his turn.

“THEN LET’S PUT HIM TO THE PIKE!”

The Cheering slowed and the Emperor watched, terrified as Soldier and Guards raised their pikes above their heads. Pointing skywards. The Tips glistening with the light of the torches. The Shogun looked to the Emperor, a mixed look on his face. This man who he once hailed was finished, what would follow.

“For all the man you killed…” He whispered to the Emperor “Now it will be your turn. I hope the crows feast well on you entrails.”

And with that. The Shogun pushed the emperor from the top of the tower. The Emperor, almost paused in time saw the points of the pikes, and then he saw them speedily coming nearer.

- - -

In the dressings of an Emperor, Han sat upon the throne. Looking out over his subjects. It was a beautiful day, a smile sat upon his face. His people loved him. For Japan, this is a turning point. New rule would sweep across the homeland… Han looked to his advisor. Across the homeland, and further.

“Let’s talk about the Philippines…”

***

Hows it sound.

I know you are all simply dying for another of my stories. Rejoice, for I am benevolent.

*****

The priest had come to the town a month ago. He had caused a stir among the people, most of whom had never seen a Celt before. He caused a bigger stir when he requested to address a meeting of the tribal nobles. Ordinarily, such a request would have been turned down without a thought, but the priest had held a private conversation with the king of the federation. None but those two knew what he had said, but whatever it was, it had convinced Arpad, and he had sent out the messengers calling the nobility. Now, they had finally gathered. Arpad called the meeting to order, and they began. “Who are you?” a noble shouted at the priest. “My name is immaterial,” he replied. “It is what I am that is important. I am, as you know, a priest of the Trinity. Moreover, I am a representative of the Holy See of Avignon.”

“Very impressive,” the noble retorted, “but why are you here? We have no need for another priest,” many in the room laughed at this, “and I don't think the High Priests need to worry about us, all the way over here.”

The priest responded impassively, “I am here to ask for your aid.”

The noble scoffed. “Aid? What can the Holy Celtic Empire possibly want with us?”

“It is not the Holy Celtic Empire that requires your aid. It is Trinitism itself. Our holy religion. Trinitism is under attack from all sides. Ctha'rists, Kyrians and heretics all seek to destroy Trinitism, and Trinitists. I have come to request that you come to the defense of Trinitism. That you fight alongside your brothers.”

Some of the assembled nobility murmured assent as the priest finished, but most were not moved. The priest had not expected it to be that easy anyway. Another noble addressed him. “You want us to attack Byzantium?”

“Yes, Byzantium and Bulgaria. The Kyrians.”

“And what would we get out of it, if we help you? You want us to attack Byzantium, with the most powerful army in the world. You are asking us to risk a great deal.”

“What do you get out it?” The priest paused. “Your immortal soul. The Trinity have made it known, through revelation, that all who join the fight for Trinitism will have all their sins forgiven. If a warrior of the Trinity is killed in this holy cause, his soul will fly straight to heaven. Now I know that you great lords are all righteous men, with no reason to fear hell,” many of the lords shifted uncomfortably at this, “but there are those among your people who may have sinned. This could be their only chance for salvation. Would you deny them that?”

There was an uncomfortable pause before yet another noble spoke. “We do not want our people to be damned, of course, but neither do we want them to be killed in a hopeless fight. Byzantium i-”

The priest cut him off. “Byzantium is powerful, yes. But they are not invincible. They have many enemies. Not only are they fighting the Empire, not only are they fighting the Jews, but they are also fighting Trinitism itself. There are far, far more Trinitists than Kyrians in the world. If we Trinitists stand together, we will defeat them. And, you must remember always that the gods are with us.” The room was starting to turn, the priest could see. Many of the lords were on his side. Time to finish the deal. “Moreover,” he continued, “Byzantium is rich. They say that even the beggars were silk in Constantinople. If they are defeated, think what would happen to that wealth.” He let the idea of plunder sink in. These men were pious, no doubt, but gold was more immediate than heaven, and for some had a stronger lure. He could see many of them savouring the idea. Then Arpad, who had remained silent thus far, rose. In a great voice, he shouted, “By the grace of the gods, we will all get rich.” There was a pause, then most of the nobles roared their assent. The priest smiled to himself. His work here was done at last. All that was left was the formalities, though they would take the rest of the day. Quick work by most standards. At the end of that day, the priest would have to move on. He has much work yet to do for Trinitism.

I'm so benevolent, in fact, that here's another one. Please, no thanks is necessary.

*****

Grifo was working in the fields when the recruiter came through. Grifo was nineteen and, like so many of his peers, was dissatisfied. The prosperity of the last few years had improved the lives of the peasants greatly, but many of the young men wanted more than the life of a farmer. As there were so many young men, there was less land to go around, exacerbating their dissatisfaction. Grifo in particular had dreams. He wanted to see the world and make a fortune, not spend his whole life tilling soil. So when Grifo heard that soldiers were in the village, he dropped his tools and ran to the square, where he was joined by most of the young men of the village. They gathered around the soldiers, and around the man leading them, who was not just a soldier, but a priest as well. That man began to talk.. He spoke of the atrocities committed by the heathens in the south and warned that the heathens had to be stopped. He spoke of the blessing that went with all who joined the fight, of the rewards that the gods would grant. He spoke of the miracles he had seen, of arrows stopping in mid air, swords refusing to harm Trinitist flesh. Grifo was enthralled. When the man stopped talking, Grifo went up to him and enlisted on the spot.

The men from Grifo's village were taken to the city of Magdeburg. There was a great camp outside the city, and they were taken there. Grifo had thought that they would go fight the heathens immediately, but it seemed that a great deal of training was required to kill heathens effectively. Grifo was assigned to the archery corps, and was issued a bow, far longer than any he had used before. He and the rest of the archers were drilled constantly in the use of their bows, by men who spoke with an English accent. They progressed rapidly, and Grifo in particular showed an aptitude for archery. Before long, he was shooting arrows at a rate of fifteen a second to a range of two hundred yards, and he kept improving. He was soon promoted to the more skilled ranks of archers.

After long months of drilling, Grifo's unit was ordered south. Apparently the Byzantines were preparing to mount a major push, and Grifo and the rest of the archers were needed to repel them. Grifo was excited at the prospect of finally getting to kill some heathens. They marched for several days, before arriving at the camp of the main army, some miles north of Danube. Grifo had never seen so many men in one place before, or so much activity. Grifo and the rest of the men from Magdeburg were billeted with the rest of the archers. Then, for several weeks, they waited, continuing to practice their archery on all occasions. Grifo was disappointed by the wait, but consoled himself with the thought of finally putting his skills to the test. Several times during the wait, he saw a tall, golden haired man on a horse riding through the camp. When he asked who the man was, Grifo was informed that he was Charles, the Emperor's son and one of the commanders of the army, and was regaled with tales of the Prince's daring and bravery. Grifo was very impressed by these, and quickly began to consider the Prince the most perfect knight alive, in keeping with the rest of the camp's attitude towards him.

Finally, the order came to move out. The army slowly disengaged itself from the camp and moved south. After a couple of days march,, the word came down that the Byzantines were close. They camped for the night, knowing that there would be a battle the next day. That night, Charles moved through the camp, exhorting the soldiers. He said a few brief words to Grifo, and Grifo was so excited by his brief encounter with the Prince that he had trouble sleeping.

The army was roused early the next day, and moved towards the Byzantine army. Grifo was almost ecstatic at the prospect of combat. They stopped on at the place where it had been decided to meet the Byzantines. The men at arms formed the center of the Celtic line, the cavalry were kept in reserve, with Charles at the head, and the archers were placed on the flanks, with Grifo on the left. Grifo took his stake and, along with the rest of the archers, drove it into the ground in front of their lines. They then took up their positions, stuck their arrows in the ground and waited. After a quarter of an hour or so, the Byzantine force appeared. Grifo, who had been so eager before, quailed slightly at the sight of the Byzantine army. He knew that they only slightly outnumbered the Celts, but they looked far more numerous. Their troops were strange and fierce looking, and Grifo did not at all like the look of the horse archers in the van. He began to shake. The man next to him noticed. “First battle?” he asked. Grifo nodded. “You'll be fine,” the man said, “just remember your training and whatever else you do, keep firing.” Grifo nodded again, and tried to get a grip on himself.

The Byzantines began to advance. The infantry came behind the horse archers, which Grifo knew were going to launch volleys to cover their advance. When the Byzantines were about a third of a mile away, they suddenly shifted in greater activity. The horse archers began to advance at a faster rate, and Grifo continued to shake. Nock, came the command, and Grifo nocked an arrow. As he did so, all the fear seemed to drain out of him. This was familiar, comfortable; it was just like all the months of practice, except with human targets. He was perfectly steady. The enemy continued to close, the horse archers preparing to engage. Draw, came the command, and Grifo raised his bow and drew, conscious as he did so of the thousands of others archers doing the same thing all around him. The Byzantine horse archers entered range and loosed a volley. The range was too great for them to be really effective, but some men were hit. Grifo ignored them, and remained holding. The Byzantines were readying another volley. Finally, the command came. Loose!

And thousands of archers firing up to twenty arrows a minute filled the sky with death.

731-740: Update 4

Non-Military Events:

Having decided that they have put up with their Kyrian monarch for long enough, the greater priests of Scotland kill their king in a coup, and take power away from his heirs, acting as regents. This naturally causes more then a little unrest in the small kingdom, but priests are generally competent rulers. One of the first things they do once in control is contact the English, and explain that as good Trinitists, they do not wish to continue the war, because they do not wish to distract the English from the far more important southern fronts. The English, of course, ignore the Scottish pleas, as they want to finally conquer the region that was denied to them for so long.

King Egbert puts out a call for volunteers to end the Scottish heathens in the north once and for all, but few are interested, possibly because the Scots are Trinitist.

The Holy Celtic Empire prepares for what might be its last war. Donations to the war cause are greatly encouraged, as the church hands out indulgences to all who contribute. Vast numbers of volunteers are called upon to save Trinitism, not just from Holy Celtic lands, but from the other Trinitist regions to the north, and even from the Trinitist barbarians to the east. Vast numbers come.

(+1 Holy Celtic treasury, +20 Holy Celtic irregular divisions)

The Celtics make a successful effort to acquire the technology of English longbows from, well, the English.

Holy Celtic economic development of Bordeaux is marginalized, due to the war, but the more militaristic project of fortifying Avignon is completed with ease. Some say Avignon is now the most fortified city in the world.

Ctha’r and Kyrian religious minorities are expelled en mass from Holy Celtic lands, and generally make a nuisance of themselves by clogging up roads in Byzantine and Aegyptian occupied territories, and straining Greco-Egyptian logistics.

The Treaty of Helsinki puts an end to the Northern War. Norway is reestablished, Denmark gains Scania, Finland officially gains its independence, Svearland is reconstituted under a new monarchy, and the Holy Celtic Empire gains the Baltic Isles. Few know why said isles are important to the Holy Celtic Empire, but even fewer want to make an issue of it. Also, all five signers of the treaty agree to ban the Unified Church of the Trinity, and conduct an inquisition to find and root out its remaining members. This is a popular measure, as by now most of the Svears feel that it was their old missing king’s conversion to that dammed church that caused their fall from prosperity. As an alliance is signed between the five nations, there are hopes that Scandinavia will rise from its war, and become a prosperous region again.

(+Norway, +Svearland, +Finland, +1 Dane confidence, +1 Holy Celtic confidence)

As Finland becomes stable, Helsinki prospers.

(+Helsinki economic center)

The tar trade enriches Novgorod.

(+1 Novgorod treasury)

The northern nations of Ireland, Norway, Denmark, Svearland, and Finland all send considerable numbers of their soldiers south to aid the Trinitist cause.

Volunteers flock to the Iberian banner, to help drive the heathens out of Europe. Meanwhile, with the completion of a certain project, an elite order of crusaders seems to have come out of the woodwork…

(+10 Iberian irregular divisions)

The Greeks go on a general school-building frenzy.

(+1 Byzantine education)

Emperor Alexandros of Byzantium begins a rapid assimilation program in Venice and the surrounding territories. The military government is abandoned in short order, and the area is annexed outright. Retiring soldiers are granted land in Venice and the environs, to maintain a Greek presence, and proselytizing in the region is stepped up. To this end, similarities between Trinitism and Kyrianity are highlighted, such as the trinities both religions believe in. Further, Byzantium outlaws all religions that are not Kyrianity, Chta’r, Trinitism, and Judaism, which has very little practical effect, as there are very few pagans left in the civilized world anymore, but nevertheless manages to bind the nation a little closer together. In Byzantium’s new Mesopotamian territories, the Greeks tread carefully around the excitable Yehudans, but assimilation programs are nevertheless taking place in these regions, as well.

(+1 Byzantine culture)

Rumors have formed the Byzantines have finally begun to develop a significant counter-intelligence program. Too late.

(See Spotlight)

The Khazars begin painting their recently deceased King Benjamin I in a martyr-like light, and generally stoke the fanaticism of their nation against the Kyrians. Volunteers rush to join the army, to defend the homeland.

(+10 Khazar irregular divisions)

A radical populist preacher known as Kimi gains influence in Morocco. His teachings state that Ctha’r, being a religion in which all is one in Amon-Ra, should not be dominated by the nobles. (Who are even now sending off those of the lower class to the ends of the earth to die in battle.) This is causing quite a stir among the peasants, and undermining support for the Great Crusades as far away as Tunis.

(-1 Moroccan confidence, -1 Tunisian confidence)

In an effort to keep the fanaticism flowing, Aegypt founds three Knight Orders, The Knights of the Mythic Dawn, the Knights Crusader, and the Knights Templar. Formed of and paid for largely by the aristocracy, the fearsome reputation of these soldiers largely proceeds them. In addition, another batch of commoners are called up.

(+10 Aegyptian Knight divisions, +10 Aegyptian irregular divisions)

The newly invented halberds are distributed throughout the Aegyptian army.

The Axumites begin stocking up on grain from Aegypt, in preparation for a famine they believe is coming.

A peace treaty between Axum and Malagasya is much kinder then the Malagasyans feared. In exchange for handing over their colonies to Axumite stewardship, Malagasya is restored to much of their island, including their capital of Tananarive. The Malay are also forced to halt any further expansion into Africa, are required to pay a tribute, and are required to have their current king abdicate, but all these terms are accepted. However, few Malay accept that the Axumite casus belli for declaring war has any truth behind it, and most are convinced that their government never oppressed the Indian or Orthodox Jewish minorities in the ways the Axumites claim.

(+1 Axumite confidence)

The Persians and the Delhians finally confirm the fact that they have been at peace for some decades now, by signing a treaty that makes official current borders.

Yet another treaty ends the Bengal War. Simhala evacuates all of Southern India, and Bengal withdraws itself from the occupied region in East India, but is allowed to occupy some of the far Ganges delta in exchange for a tribute. Delhi is the big winner in all of this, as it confirms gains from the very tip of the subcontinent to eastern regions of Bengal.

(+1 Delhian confidence)

Kruang Khai becomes an important trade center of the Mekong.

(+Kruang Khai economic center)

The Mongols and the Empire of Chu-Nan come to a peace agreement over former Yang China. In the Treaty of the Yangtze, the Chu-Nan relinquish all claims to lands north of the Yangtze River, in exchange for Mongol acceptance of their rule over all lands south of that point.

Still more Manchurian barbarians join the Mongols.

(+5 Mongol-Tibetan divisions)

Mongol assimilation of northern China is encountering numerous problems. For one thing, Taoism doesn’t really connect well with Mongol beliefs, and for another, various crime lords have taken advantage of the chaos surrounding the subjugation of China to expand their influence.

(-1 Mongol-Tibetan confidence, -1 Mongol-Tibetan culture)

The Japanese withdraw from Korea, handing over the regions they occupy to the Mongols.

Investment in the Japanese city of Nagasaki yields results.

(+Nagasaki economic center)

Military Events:

The Adenan nation expands along the Gulf coast, conquering various local tribes, but the rather poor quality of its army is wearing. With all these constant, hard-fought, distant conflicts, sedition is beginning to rise at home.

(-1 Adenan confidence, -2 Adenan divisons)

The English armies press northward, continuing their attack against the Scots, which, under their new religious leadership, are quite unprepared. As the English advance nearly unopposed, it becomes clear that in compliance with their hope for peace, the Scottish priests had disbanded most of the Scottish army. When the English reach Inverness, the Scottish theocracy, quite out of options, decides to simply surrender. This, of course, does not go over well among the commoners, and many irregulars continue to fight. However, by this point, English control of the region is assured, and their massive armies stamp out the rebellions, even in the highlands. But even as the English cement their rule, rumors are spreading that the Scottish king is not really dead…

(-Scotland, -2 English divisions)

May all the various gods have mercy on us all.

(See Spotlight)

(-19 Holy Celtic divisions, -4 Holy Celtic SECRET divisions, -12 Holy Celtic irregular divisions, -2 Dane divisions, -2 Svearish divisions, -1 Norse division, -1 Irish division, -1 Finnish division, -2 Iberian divisions, -13 Iberian Crusader divisions, -8 Iberian irregular divisions, -Italia, -Benjid Empire, -3 Khazar divisions, -4 Khazar Mikaelite divisions, +10 Bachiran irregular divisions, -2 Bachiran Zealot divisions, -8 Bachiran irregular divisions, -21 Aegyptian divisions, -8 Aegyptian Temple Guard divisions, -4 Aegyptian Knight divisions, -4 Aegyptian irregular divisions, -17 Tunisian divisions, -5 Tunisian irregular divisions, -5 Moroccan divisions, -14 Byzantine divisions, -8 Byzantine Kyriohippeis divisions, -12 Bulgar divisions, -6 Persian divisions, -1 Persian irregular division)

The Awakar nation expands southwest along the Niger.

Axum expands west, in an attempt to connect with Mangbetu. The new territory known as South Colony is also expanded.

(-1 Axumite division)

Delhi and Bengal both conquer some of the rebelling Tibetan territory. It remains to be seen what Temujin will think of this…

(-1 Delhian division, -1 Bengali division, -2 Bengali irregular divisions)

Throughout the greater Mongol-Tibetan Empire, rebels are crushed. Logistics are a constant problem in this final campaign, as food and other supplies seem to magically disappear with great frequency, but the overwhelming numbers and tactical skills of the Mongol-Tibetan hordes prove more then enough to compensate. The overt Chinese rebels are routed out with little contest, but the Tibetan rebels, better prepared, manage to hang onto some areas in the far west and far south. For the first time, Mongol-Tibetan borders meet those of the Delhi and the Bengali. Some wonder if this might be the precursor for future invasions to come.

(-5 Mongol-Tibetan divisions, -2 Mongol Tibetan Iron Face Demon divisions)

The remaining barbarian nations to the north of Angkor are conquered.

(-2 Angkorese divisions)

The Chu-Nan defeat the rebels in all the lands allotted to them by the Treaty of the Yangtze, but with heavy losses.

(-6 Chu-Nan divisions)

The Sillans make their last stand, abandoned by their allies. Though the defenders of south Korea are brave, they are simply no match for the Mongols. Soon enough, the war resolves into the siege of Kyongju, with that Sillan capital the last piece of territory in the peninsula left to be conquered. In the fighting, the city is virtually destroyed, by fire, and, rumors says, flood as well. Kyongju, not much of a prize when the Mongols take it, is nevertheless occupied, and with that, the conquest of Korea is complete. (The former Sillan controlled islands fall into anarchy, unable to be captured by the Mongols by virtue of the fact that they have no fleet.)

(-Silla, -3 Mongol-Tibetan divisions, -1 Mongol-Tibetan Iron Face Demon division, -Kyongju economic center)

Not long after the Japanese leave Silla, their armies head towards the Philippines. Much of northern Luzon has begun to begun to be colonized. However, due to the poor quality of the Japanese soldiers, the conquest of the island is taking more of a toll then it should. Called to Luzon for one reason or another, the remaining Japanese war elephants die in transit.

(-2 Japanese divisions)

Random Events:

Celtic civil administration improves, as do a number of other things within the nation.

(+1 Holy Celtic culture, +1 Holy Celtic government efficiency, +1 Holy Celtic education)

Kyrianity prospers, as the war helps shape Byzantium’s religious identity.

(+1 Byzantine confidence, +1 Byzantine culture)

Aegypt’s economy is stimulated.

(+1 Aegyptian treasury, +1 Aegyptian education)

Old Yesugei passes away, and Temujin is declared Khan of the Mongol-Tibetan Confederacy, Emperor of the Yuan Dynasty…and Khagan of the Iron Face Empire.

(+1 Iron Face confidence, +1 Iron Face culture)

In a coup with popular support, Shogun Han deposes the old Japanese emperor.

(+1 Japanese confidence)

Spotlight: The Great Crusades Revisited

“And you, Ctha’ri?”

-Emperor Alexandros of Byzantium, Defender of the Faith

Autogenes, Amon-Ra, The Trinity, YHWH. Faith in them has brought many great things to the world. And many horrible things as well. As the second decade of the Great Crusades begin, from Ghanza to Paris, religious fervor peaks, and all the various infidels and heathens curse each other, even as they attempt to determine the best ways to hack each other to bits.

Once, many decades ago, it seemed Persia was on the brink of collapse. No longer. Now the vicious Persians pursue the defeated Benjids back over the border. Casualties are higher then expected, as the Benjids are tenacious, but the Persians nevertheless push them back over the border, and, with the help of partisans in the old Zoroastrian homelands of Old Persia, secure such cities as Peresopolis.

Amoungst the allies of Byzantium and Aegypt, cooperation is slim to none against the Benjids, as the Byzantines head north to take the Caucasus, even as the Aegyptians expect their support in more southerly regions. In the south, however, it matters little, as the Aegyptians steamroll over the Benjids in southern Mesopotamia, and with that, destroy what remains of the Benjid central government, ending the nation, once and for all.

Meanwhile, the Bachirans incorporate the west Gulf coast into their nation, and finish their push to the Mediterranean Sea, retaking Israel. A small yet elite force of Aegyptians succeeds in taking Mecca, but the Aegyptians fail to realize just how decentralized the Bachiran nation is. Rather then damaging confidence amongst the Arabs, the fall of Mecca brings forth ever greater hatred against the Ctha’ri. Ever more volunteers flock to the Bachiran cause. Attacks against the Aegyptians in Mecca are repulsed, due in part to use of forts, but the Aegyptians, embattled, cannot advance along the Hejjaz and take Medina as they originally planned. Israel remains in Bachiran hands, and the Aegyptians in Mesopotamia are suffering, as logistics must now be provided through Byzantine territories.

In the north of the fallen Benjid domains, Byzantium captures Baku and most of the lands just south of the Caucasus. Once it becomes clear the Benjids are out of the picture, the Khazars on the far side make some hesitant advances to secure a more defensible line. Minor skirmishing takes place here, but the true battles the Khazar face are in Europe.

The Bulgar Khanate deals with its insurgency, just in time for Celtic-allied Trinitist barbarians to the north to invade. The invasion is disjointed, and is eventually defeated…but for a price. The Bulgar advance into Khazaria never really proceeds.

Byzantium rushes troops from the Caucasus to Europe, to help the Bulgars destroy the Khazars, but as these troops are in transit, disaster strikes the Byzantine Empire. Alexandros and his eldest son are both assassinated, and as evidence is uncovered, it seems that Alexandros’ second son hired Ctha’ri do the deeds. Many disbelieve that patricide could be possible among the royal family, especially as Byzantine law states that the Emperor’s will can give the throne to any, not just his children. A check of said will reveals that Alexandros’ second son was indeed not the second in line, and instead, that position was accorded to General Phillipos. Phillipos, at the time, was the general in change of moving Byzantine troops to the Bulgar theater, but, quite obviously, he halts at Constantinopolis, confused, to try to understand what is going on. Phillipos had no idea he was the secondary heir. Alexandros’ second son, Stefanos, seizes upon this, and claims he is being set up, that the will was a fake, and that he is the true heir to the throne. As a variety of new evidence comes to light, it seems more and more that Stefanos is right, but Phillipos, still in Constantinopolis with his massive army, decides that if the will said he was going to be the Emperor, then by all means he was going to be the Emperor, regardless of new evidence. As Stefanos and those loyal to him flee the capital in favor of Athens, Phillipos declares himself Emperor in Constantinopolis, and much of the eastern Aegean defects to him. The Minoans on Crete, ever opportunistic, declare their independence and sack the local garrison soon after. Seeking damage control, Stefanos reasserts his authority over the rest of the nation, including the majority of Asia Minor, the Mesopotamian lands, Greece, Illyria, and the conquered Trinitist regions in Europe, but the fact remains that he still has a rebellion to put down in the very center of his empire.

Needless to say, further offensive operations against the Khazars are canceled.

Of course, the Khazars themselves do not sit idle during all of this. Finding themselves opposed by nothing except a weak Bulgar army, the Khazars sweep westward. They are halted just barely outside of Pliska, the Bulgar capital. The situation on this particular front seems to be reversed.

In Germany, the Byzantines break through the Danube with heavy casualties, and proceed northward. The fighting here is chaotic, with a massive Byzantine army slowly coming to the realization that even the once disloyal Germans are now united behind Emperor Pepin to drive them out. Both sides here substantially underestimate the other’s numbers, and when all is said and done, the front lines are ragged and confused, with many pockets of the enemy on both sides. The Byzantines, once they captured Regensburg, held onto it-but only barely, and with their overstretched logistics a nightmare, what they gained was most likely not worth the price.

Due to all the various commotions, a Byzantine attack on southern Italia is called off, leaving the Aegyptians to do the work. Yet another huge army trampled southward, securing the rest of northern Italia. Surrounded by various enemies, their ports blockaded, and by and large slowly starving, the various Italians either give up or are overrun by Aegyptians. Rome, due to its massive fortifications, holds out for quite a while, but eventually the food supply runs out, and the people within quite literally starve to death en mass, as the Italian commanders are so fanatic they will not open the gates to save Italian citizens. However, eventually the Aegyptians do break through, finding a city with about a quarter of its original population. Various countrywide rebellions are put down, and, at last, Aegyptian hegemony over Italia seems secured…

At least until a gigantic Trinitist army hits Italia from behind. The Aegyptians are prepared- they left a sizable army defending the Alps, but they neglected to realize just how many allies the Celts could call upon. Through both force of numbers and their own knowledge of the Alps, (quite superior to the out-of-place Aegyptians) the Celts and their allies press south. This offensive grids to a halt well before Rome, but the damage is still done. For the first time in the Great Crusades, Ctha’r forces suffer their first real defeats at the hands of Trinitists.

In Iberia, it is Tunis’ turn to expand its control over all Iberia…or at least try to hold onto what it already has. The Iberians, increasingly fanatic, now have their armies come under the control of a number of crusader lord-generals, who are fixed on driving the heathens out, and avenging the loss of Italia. A Tunisian-Moroccan offensive fixed on driving east from Lisbon through the rest of free Iberia is met with a large number of Iberian mixed forces, ranging from everything from conscripts to crusaders, and in the end, the Ctha’ri are halted before they can reach Madrid, though they do make some gains. However, a different Tunisian offensive, this one up the Mediterranean coast, is repulsed outright, and in the Pyrenees, the Tunisians face even more dire problems. While the Pyrenees separate Iberia and the Holy Celtic Empire, by the same token, they also are surrounded by those two nations. With the failure of Tunisian advances in the south to reach the mountains, and the arrival of a Holy Celtic army to liberate said mountains, the Tunisians here found themselves outnumbered against both the Celts and their newfound Basque allies. Tunisian naval dominance of the Mediterranean, unchallenged, allows for some measure of retreat into the sea, but for the most part, the Tunisian armies here are routed. Iberia takes Barcelona, the Celts take part of the Pyrenees, and Basque rebels seize the rest.

So turns the war. The Benjids have died, but the Bachirans have retaken Israel. The Byzantines press forward on all fronts, but suffer rebellion at home. The Aegyptians have destroyed Italia, but if the Trinitists press on, Italia may be revived. Holy Celtic armies are slowly being grinded down, but there is still fight in them yet, as the recent victories in northern Italia and the Pyrenees prove. It seems clear now, that the Ctha’ri and the Kyrians have taken on more then they bargained for. But with almost all the Trinitist and Yehudan ‘victories’ in territories that were theirs to begin with, can their causes possibly prevail?

NPC Diplomacy:

To: Holy Celtic Empire, Iberia
From: Basque Rebels

We have aided you in driving the Africans out of the Pyrenees. We expect to be rewarded by being allowed to form an independent state in the regions we now control. If your nations accept this, we will gladly provide your nations with additional forces with which to fight the Ctha’ri.

To: Mongol-Tibet, Kingdom of Delhi
From: Bengal

We should make a treaty to determine the final borders in our region, and prevent any…misunderstandings that might arise.

tHE mAP oF dOOM

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OOC:

Stats and extras updated. Some of the nation backgrounds are updated, but only for last turn, not for this turn.

Azash, you didn't actually spend your eco for this turn, so I banked it.

Byzantium: Winner of the Most Complicated Internal Politics Award

Guess what the spotlight quote's reference is to.

I really want a player for Bachira, and a player for Chu-Nan wouldn't be bad, either.

I'm pissed. I have explained Phillipos' character repeatedly, including the fact that he has ALREADY turned down the Throne, letting his younger brother take it. I have to go to class now, but I'll be back with a full host of complaining in a few hours.

Byzantium's enemies can't destroy it so they have to get it to destroy itself.

I'm pissed. I have explained Phillipos' character repeatedly, including the fact that he has ALREADY turned down the Throne,[...]

And so he wouldn't get a little angry/crazed after he thought his nephew murdered his brother and another nephew?

Great Update. Iggy do you surrender?

Fantastic update.

FROM: The Holy Celtic Empire
TO: The Basque Rebels

We have no objections to an independent Basque state.

To the Byzantine and Aegyptian Empires
From Greater Persia

We would like to discuss our future borders and how the Persian Empire may assist its allies. At the same time the northern unconquered and anarchial lands of the Benjid we would like to put a tentative claim on.

Imago: :)

Also, is it Et tu, Brute?

Yes. (tenchar)

TO THE IRON FACE EMPIRE
FROM JAPAN

Japan offers a non-aggression pact to our oversea friends. This fallen empire wishes to flourish again and we believe that if we can have peace or empires can go closer

-Han, Emperor of China

Excellent Update Imago!

Scotland is finally dead. How stable is the situation in Scotland? Are the people really rebellious still?

Riiiiiight. So a little suspicion on the nephew will push an EIGHTY YEAR OLD MAN (thats 80, as in octogenarian) to instigate a rebellion while his homeland is at war. A man who has, his entire life, not only taken the back seat to his younger brother BY CHOICE, but who has no heir himself, given his priestly position.

I can understand maybe getting upset, but I, in absolutely no way possible, see him effectively crippling Byzantium while she is faced by so many threats. Honestly, he's 80 freaking years old. He'd put a little more forethought into this.

Actually, he may be as young as 65, I need to go back and check, but all that still holds for someone so old.

EDIT: I am in no way suggesting that you have favouritism for or against me. I just think its ridiculous that such a thing would happen. Losing Alexandros is painful enough. However, I really don't see that you can do anything because I will never ask a mod to change the update.

EDIT2: THe Minoans? Honestly, they're ethnically Greek/Byzantine, they worship the same god, they haven't been free for ages. What is that about?

TO DELHI
FROM JAPAN

The Japanese Empire comes to you, we come to you for help, as a poor man asking for food, but in this case help. The Japanese wish to ask for a loan. Our Empire is in proverty and we can assure you that when the time comes, you will be payed back.

(Sorta sad Im reduced to begging. Im getting my balls busted here.)

Are the people really rebellious still?

Quite. The fact that it took you so long to defeat them only emboldened them, really.

So a little suspicion on the nephew will push an EIGHTY YEAR OLD MAN (thats 80, as in octogenarian) to instigate a rebellion while his homeland is at war.

A lot, really. The conspircy had only started unraveling after he had made his move, so when Phillipos did what he did, he honestly belived his nephew was a traitor. The exact wording of the update reflects popular opinion, not fact.

EDIT: I am in no way suggesting that you have favouritism for or against me. I just think its ridiculous that such a thing would happen. Losing Alexandros is painful enough. However, I really don't see that you can do anything because I will never ask a mod to change the update.

In hindsight, I should have chosen a different general, but what's done is done. And the Byzantine rebellions are going to define you as a NESer forever. :)

EDIT2: THe Minoans? Honestly, they're ethnically Greek/Byzantine, they worship the same god, they haven't been free for ages. What is that about?

The Minoans are more to Byzantium what the Basques are to Iberia, actually. You only took them over in the BT, so they've only been subjegated for about three centuries. The Greeks under the Ottomans lasted a comperable length.

But aside from that, the Minoans really were mostly assimilated, and there are many still on Crete that are loyal to your empire. Momentum got going though, and a few leaders were stirred up enough to remember the old days, hence the situation you have now.

The Third Kurultai

The large group of Warlords were again gathered in Karakorum, all sitting surrounding a large bonfire buring in the center of the tent. The smoke rose quickly into the air, through the small openings in the tent. For many minutes, the warlords watched the fire burn, waiting.

A noticable clanking sound reached their ears, and they all turned to face the flap of the tent. It flew open, and there stood the Khagan, in full battle dress. The fearsome helmet, his dyed clothes, and his obsidian mask. In response, many of the Generals put their own marks of prestige within the empire on, the Golden masks of the Warlords.

The Khagan walked to the center, and stared at the fire for many long moments, as if savoring the silence.

"My father," he began finally, "was the greatest Khan of Mongolia. He was descended from Khan Khabul, Khachi the Hero, and even Batachikhan himself! The Wolf and the Deer sired Batachikhan, who in turn sired sons and daughters, until my father took power through strength alone. Who sired myself, and my brothers, until I took power through my victories, and my blood," finished Temujin, his Black mask looking randomly around the room.

"My lord," came the slightly muffled voice from behind a golden mask, "we know all this. We know of your history, and of your familes power. Why call this Kurultai for merely this reason?"

A murmur ran through the warlords, all agreeing. Until the Khagan threw a large, familar letter into the fire. The warlords all knew what the letter were, but did not dare bring attention to themselves as Temujin watched it burn.

"Tell me Warlord Jakha, what does this letter say?" said the Khagan, icily.

"Well, ah, my lord, I wouldn't be sure as I can't exactly read a burning piece of paper," laughed the unfortunate general weakly.

"False," deadpanned Temujin, "as I found this particular copy within your possessions. It was very well worn, for such a simple letter," finished the Khagan, turning to look seemingly at the masked man (with the mask, it was quite hard to tell where he was looking). The man seemed to deflate, slumping in his seat at being caught red handed.

"I ask of you, my generals, why do supplies seemingly disappear on route to simple locations? Why do my armies go hungry, when the rice fields of China are under out control? When all that stand before us are pathetic rebels? Yet, those very same rebels resisted our forces, and even now occupy our land!"

The warlords seemed to shudder as one, fearing where this was going, afraid for the consquences of any accusations the ruthless Khagan might make against them.

"I am not foolish. Some think me an animal for my methods. Yet, when the battle for Yangzhou began, with what little defenders were left, I led the charge after its walls were broken! When Silla made their last stand, I took command from my brother, and conquered and looted it until it was no longer the city of greatness it once was! My attacks broke the rebels, my methods destroyed whatever confidence our enemies might have had, and we have won universally," said the angry Khagan, turning his back to his warlords.

"Do you deny this?" he questioned, his back still turned. A general without his mask on, in the front suddenly burst into motion, running straight at Temujin's back with a dagger in his hand. The sound of his coming was not lost on Temujin, and he merely side-stepped the attack, letting the foolish warlord pass harmlessly by, harmlessly until Temujin grabbed the back of the elder generals neck with a single iron gauntlet.

"Fool," was the only remark Temujin made before shoving the man into the center of fire, holding him there while he screamed in pain. As his own iron arm began to feel pain from the intense heat, he released while drawing his golden blade, and slashing the man in his back killing him into the fire.

The smell of burning flesh hung in the air, accompained by a powerful silence.

"This meeting, was not for this sole purpose of revealing my knowledge, however. Nor was it a solely meant to be a warning of joining this so called 'Alliance' when our Empire is both wealthy and strong. No, this is a meeting of war," finished the Khagan, pointing the map being streched out by his personal gaurd of Iron Face Demons.

The warlords, still discomforted by the burning body and by the ease (and ruthless way) that Temujin defeated the would-be assasin, began to talk exictedly about the prospect of another war. Another chance for glory and wealth.

Walking up to the extremely large map, he laid one hand upon a specific location of map, his helmet glinting in the fire light.

"This nation, right here. We will conquer our path of wealth, and then, conquer the rest of China. This peace my father wrought was only meant so that we might catch our breath. For forty years, we have waged war. And now, we are wealthy and powerful, as my father intended us to be," said Temujin, savoring sweet memories and dreams of battles.

"If you think me a coward, remember how quickly I rise to fight, and how well I have won battles. If you think me ruthless and blood thirsty, remember what my father did to cities that did not surrender to him ((as it was, I did order back them to enslave all engineers and artisans, rape the women, and kill all males (including children), so unknown general better get his facts straight)). If you seek a challenge, fight for Empire, and I will give you battles that will echo in eternity," finished the Khagan with relish.

Many of the Warlords rose up in agreement, and a distinct minority rose more slowly than the others, and intelligent eyes watched from the shadows those that rose more slowly, and weighing that particular meaning.

Through it all, the flames continued to burn, and the sizzle of flesh was drowned out by the war council of the Iron Face Empire.

Great Update. Iggy do you surrender?We know nothing of this 'Iggy' person, heathen fools. Please address any of your pitiful surrender terms to King Chike. (Shee-Kay, in the highly likely chance that you Iberians will mispronounce it)

@Imago- 27 casualties to 15 casualties + whatever the Heretic Celtic Empire lost? I hope they suffered some nasty losses fighting through a fortified mountain range.

And is it really as easy as a 3 turn project to get 40 elite fanatic divisions of soldiers?

And is it really as easy as a 3 turn project to get 40 elite fanatic divisions of soldiers?

That is mildly disconcerting... although i think the number was 30... (not counting irregulars of course...)

I stand corrected. It is a mere 30 divisions of elite fanatic soldiers.

Nice update. Imago, shouldn't I have 1 treasury from the malagasyans?

c) Payment of 1 IC for all damage done to Jewish and Indians

And is it really as easy as a 3 turn project to get 40 elite fanatic divisions of soldiers?

They're not quite as good as you think they are. It's just that they were fighting in their element, for defense of nation against the Ctha'r heathens.

@Imago- 27 casualties to 15 casualties + whatever the Heretic Celtic Empire lost? I hope they suffered some nasty losses fighting through a fortified mountain range.

Don't forget the Basques you killed. And yes, the Celtics paid for the gains in blood.

And is it really as easy as a 3 turn project to get 40 elite fanatic divisions of soldiers?

It would have been four turns after Luckymoose dropped off part of what he wanted, but I shaved off an extra turn because of very particular curcumstances (ie the invasion) making those involved in the project work faster.

Nice update. Imago, shouldn't I have 1 treasury from the malagasyans?

You spent the eco in your orders, I believe.

Edit: Nevermind!

No, I spent the eco that Delhi repayed me.

Then pretend the tribute's there and spend it next turn. Actually, I do think I forgot about that aspect of the treaty, and spent Malagasya's income on something else, so due to *logistical errors* they'll be sending that tribute around this turn. :)

Hmm... well, it's still a very handsome tradeoff to get that many divisions for so little money.

eugh... another one bites the dust... time for nation #3... something isolated...

@ The Major

Isolated nations = Mangbetu, Srivijaya, maybe try and start a nation in Mexico or the americas?

To Japan
From the Iron Face Empire

No.

To Japan
From the Iron Face Empire

No.

TO THE IRON FACE EMPIRE
FROM JAPAN

Then tell me. Do you wish to make war anew. Japan, though hurt, is none the less a powerful force. Like an injured animal it is most dangerous when cornered.

If a non aggresion pact cannot be reached can we atleast expand the length of the peace treaty. Possibly to 780?

TO THE IRON FACE EMPIRE
FROM JAPAN

Then tell me. Do you wish to make war anew. Japan, though hurt, is none the less a powerful force. Like an injured animal it is most dangerous when cornered.

If a non aggresion pact cannot be reached can we atleast expand the length of the peace treaty. Possibly to 780?

As long as we have no reason to strike against the Island nation, there will be no war against it. Make certain that you do not ignite our anger, and peace will reign between us.

As long as we have no reason to strike against the Island nation, there will be no war against it. Make certain that you do not ignite our anger, and peace will reign between us.

Very well then. I hope that our nations can one day live in complete peace. Also, their is the subject of the Korean Islands. Korea has become a vassal of the mongolian Empire. However, in the peace treaty, you agreed to acknowledge our expansions in the sea. With your consent, we wish to annex these small islands.

You guys keep fighting, while I make my empire...alone :)

Imago, what happened to my eco center investment?

Is there a player for Khazaria or Bachria?

I'm Khazaria; Bachira, I think, is open.

Imago, what happened to my eco center investment?

One eco wasn't enough.

Is there a player for Khazaria or Bachria?

Khazaria-Yes. Bachira-No. As shortguy said.

From: Glorious Novgorod
To: Woeful Finland

We extend our hand in friendship and welcome you to Mighty Novgorod. Celebrate the freedom of religion and wiseness of rule of Novgorod, and accept this offer of peaceful annexation, lest you displease the Great Empire of the East Bay.

To: Novgorod
From: Finland

We do not fear you. Our allies in the Trinitist Alliance will protect us if you declare war.

From: Great Novgorod
To: Puny Habitat of Finland

Surely your words must be twisted by forked-tongue advisors. We will be glad to show you the benefits of joining Novgorod. Of course, resisters must be executed to protect the empire, but I'm sure you will realize the truth in our words before the damage is done.

From England
To Novgorod

Your attacks on a fellow Trinist nation is most distrubing. Peace has just been reached in that region and you threaten to destroy it. Even though there is hugte swaths of territory surrounding your lands to expand into. If you attack Novgorod it will be considered an attack on England and we believe the Trinist Alliance will back us on this issue.

You have been warned.

From: Mighty Novgorod
To: Puny Finland and Meddling England

We will abstain from our annexation if a treaty will be signed that grants us the right to be sole makers of tar in the Finnish peninsula and the rightful lands of Novgorod.

To: Novgorod
From: Finland

We will exploit our natural resources to the best of our ability, for we see no reason to do otherwise. And what are the rightful lands of Novgorod you speak of?

From: Mighty Novgorod
To: Puny Finland

The lands north, east and north by northeast of this East Bay.

Very well, we grant you mercy this time. But if you attempt to wringe control of our resources again, we will not hold back.

OOC: Ah, diplomatic brilliance. :p

Going for arrogance! :yumyum:

49 and a half hours until deadline. 1/17 orders in.

This thread dropped quite a bit, didn't it?

Orders coming later. Hmm the likeliness of me winning this turn are high.

Hmm the likeliness of me winning this turn are high.

:rolleyes: Arrogance is worthless. If you win, no one's happy; if you lose, the rest of us laugh.

Orders will come soonish. Will try to get some stories up as well.

From: Novgorod
To: All seafaring contacts

We ask, trade with our nation, for our tar is of considerable quality and will aid your sea travel greatly.

To: Novgorod
From: Denmark, Norway, Svearland. Finland

*They don't want to sign any formal treaties with you due to your agressive moves against Finland, but they can't stop informal trade, and their citizens want your tar.*

Writing a story. Have completely written TWO sets of COMPLETELY different orders. Both require decisions on which parts of which to use. Im completely reforming Axum, one to be more and more religious, one slightly yehudan in ONE step, though still very different. More on that later.

Imago, how come my government efficiency didn't improve last update?

Im just wondering, Imago, can you truthfully say you take stats such as government efficiency, confidence, or even in some cases Army Training into consideration, when it is fairly close... I mean when its like 4 to 3 do you think about it? It just seems most everything is based on the orders you write... this isn't a personal attack or anything, just wondering from a mods perspective...

Imago, how come my government efficiency didn't improve last update?

Because you spent the eco from south India that you got from the treaty in Simhala. Nations that start the turn with an eco center get to spend its point. Sorry I forgot to mention that earlier.

Im just wondering, Imago, can you truthfully say you take stats such as government efficiency, confidence, or even in some cases Army Training into consideration, when it is fairly close... I mean when its like 4 to 3 do you think about it? It just seems most everything is based on the orders you write... this isn't a personal attack or anything, just wondering from a mods perspective...

There are pesudo-formulas involved, and I would like to spend the time to actually write them out, but for the time being general sucess or failure for any particular action is based on me analyzing all the angles very, very briefly. Because there are so many factors involved in any action, I simplified the meaning of each stat. Confidence, for example, is more or less only useful for geting extra irregulars when its high, and causing revolts when its low. Army quality dosen't so much help you win battles as minimize casulties for the side with the better level. Quality of orders, in contrast, are what the NES is based on. Stats are modifiers, that increase your ease of sucess if they are high, and decrease your ease of sucess if they are low. Analogy: Your stats are the car in a race. Your orders are the driver. So when stats are close, its easier for the better driver in the worse car to overtake the worse driver, in the better car. Sorry if that's a little confusing, but the whole process is somewhat confusing at the moment, though I hope to make it simpler. Just know that all stats actually do matter, in one way or another. :)

Nice post Imago thanks.

King Chike strode up at the base of the Great Temple of Amon-Ra. Before him was a virtual sea of Tunisians. Behind him were members of his government and the Chta'rist clergy.

"My people, Tunisians, I greet you in a most interesting time. A time of war. A time Chta'rade against the Heretic Trinitists. A time of unprecedented strength. However this is also a time of great danger. Our allies are great, but our enemies are numerous.

Already our mighty Aegyptian allies have annihilated Italia, even while fighting a war on a second front in the east. Our time-old enemies, the Iberians, are driven to the verge of collapse. Even their 'mighty' crusaders, trained specifically to fight us have been crushed to a mere fraction of their former strength. All that stands between us and victory is the decaying 'Holy Empire' of the barbarian Celts!

They will not last long, my friends. These Trinitists cannot fight off all those arrayed against them. If they show enough strength to fight off one of their enemies, they will lose to the others.

However, we are faced not only with foreign troubles, but with domestic disturbance as well. There is the man many of us know as Kimi. He preaches that Amon-Ra, through his voice of Chta, wished for power to be held by the masses. I would greatly wish to hold a dialogue with this man. His words seem fair, but they are not true. Divine Power is held by one being. Amon-Ra. Not by many, as the heretic Trinitists believe. And has Kimi not heard of what we call 'meritocracy'? Any capable person who wishes for greater stature among his fellows can do so, with hard work and determination. The High Priest of Tunis was born to a poor but pious Benghazi peddler. Our highest General, Gahiji, who commands our forces in Iberia, was once a young farm boy. Amon-Ra chooses where we are born into in this world, and he gives us the tools to thrive in and beyond our situations and callings.

These are the tools we must use now, to strike down the heretics and awaken their people to the true light of Chta'r.

Glory to the one god Amon-Ra! Wisdom and guidance be brought to us by Chta! Power to Tunis and those who it stands beside! Death to all those who oppose it and its holy truth!

23 hours until deadline. 2/17 orders in.

Nice post Imago thanks.

I wonder how other mods consider the balance between orders and stats.

23 hours until deadline. 2/17 orders in.



I wonder how other mods consider the balance between orders and stats.
3/17 now. I will contribute the orders vs stats question in a few weeks. ;)

Aw man I really do not want to send orders. Perfectionist if you control my armies Iberia will join the HCE. I just can't be bothered with a nation I dislike.

Okay, so you want me to write your orders for this turn?

Okay, so you want me to write your orders for this turn?

Yea you can basically have all my lands. I do not want to place and would hate to see it fall out of place I know you can do it.

So Imago. Give all my land and military forces to the HCE.

Only thing I ask of you is. Don't force them on your celtic culture. Possibly a name change? Holy Trintist Empire?

I don't remember when the declaration was made. I was the son of a noble, wasting my young days learning the great philosophers and hunting in the out skirts of Chengdu. At first, it was a simple matter. We were winning easily, defeating the barbarian hordes easily. I barely heard much talk of it, and instead spent my days of summer learning to hunt.

That is, until the storm from the north struck. The Mongol horde quickly moved to threaten the northern territories, and very quickly there was fear. I did not know what to expect, as men joined the army enmasse to cut the Mongols off before driving too deep into the capital. One of the nights, a careless, paranoid gaurd knocked over a lamp, setting my ancestral home on fire.

I was the only one who escaped. I had no family, and no home. I fell in with the northern army.

*****

I found a home with the troops. They treated me like a little brother, as I amused them with song and dance to keep boredom away from the long march. I watched in awe as the elite of the army trained while the rest of the army rested.

I remember a conversation I had with the Captain, where he looked off into the distance.

'I wouldn't mind, dying against a worthy opponent. It would bring me great joy, to fight my hardest, and be tested," he said, with a sad smile.

I remember it, because we were marching to Hohot. Those fateful few days of skirmish was merely a calm before the storm. Suddenly, at sun rise on the third day, the Mongol army struck.

The captain died, pierced by a Mongolian arrow. The arrow from a stony eyed Mongolian captain.

I was spared, and fell in with the advancing Mongols.


*****

I remember this now, upon the eve of war almost twenty five years later. I remember the sights and sounds of my first battle at Yellow River, and I can even see the look of joy on the Captains face as he stared down the Mongol horde.

I shake off such memories, laying them behind me, at least for now. I reach to my side, pulling out an Iron Mask. The red handprint is blood red upon its slightly rusting surface. The War flag flutters next to me, as my company awaits my orders.

I too am a Captain now.

The Iron Face Empire cares little of my past, or my race. They care only for the accuracy of my bow, and the strength of my sword arm. I wait, and listen as the Khagan speaks, his fearsome apperance keeping the restless troops silent.

"Today, my brothers, we embark for Glory, and honor!" the Khagan began, "Today, we will do glorious battle for control of this Earth, to take what is ours by might! To take wealth, glory, and honor from righteous battle!"

A roar followed this proclaimation, but the Khagan merely raised his iron hand for silence.

"He that has no stomach for this fight, leave now with as many stones will keep him, for we will not die with any man that fears his fellowship to die with us. For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother, and we that ride for glory will make nations fear the sound of our hoofbeat," proclaimed the Khagan, rousing the warriors from their slouched positions on their horses.

I too stood a little bit straighter, honored of being called brother by the Khagan himself.

"Now, look to the red sun rising in the East, and remember what feats you'll do this day! Now ride! For honor! For glory! Ride for Death!"

With a resounding roar, the masked armies poured forth for war, and for glory.

And I forgot what my past was, and lived only in that single moment of glory, riding forth for battle. What enemies shall I meet, that might match my skill with their own?

Is anyone actually Bachira, at this point?

I dont think so. Nuke Kid was about to be, than left.

Orders in. Longest orders yet, I think.

Gah... been cramming for my bio final tomorrow. Orders should be in by 8:00 PST.

Seeya Lucky.

Oh don't worry I will be back. *spins desk chair around laughing maniacally*

8/16 orders in. 8 and a half hours until deadline.

Orders in, cut down to 1PM (well 2 technically but I think Imago understands that I can get all the important stuff on the 1st, seeing as the contents of the 2nd is never talked about in the Updates).

Have to go to class, will have orders in roughly 3 hours.

Might squeeze in a story before the DL. What would you say the ETA for the update is, Imago?

Orders coming very shortly.

Orders away. 3 PMs again. I would have been able to keep it to 2, if not for the Iberian situation.

*****

Roderic walked onto the balcony in his palace at Madrid and thought about his kingdom. The war still hung in the balance. The people had risen against the heathen invaders, and stopped the drive to Madrid. And with the help of the Celts, his armies had driven the heathens out of the north. He had more hope now that at any point since the invasion began. Still, the heathen devils were not defeated, were still a great threat. The almost numberless hordes of Africa still existed, and it remained to be seen whether Europe could defeat them. At least now, they had a chance. Roderic heard a noise, and turned. “Wha-” He did not have time to finish before a sword hit him in the throat.

The great nobles of Iberia were assembled in a room of the palace. Pelagius, the Count of Asturias and one of the most respected of them all, stood to address the room. His initial words could not be heard over the din of dozens of talking to each other. He called for order, but was drowned out again. Finally, he lost his temper and shouted “Order!” The nobles quieted at last. Pelagius composed himself, then began. “Gentlemen, we know why we are here. Two weeks ago, Ctha'rist assassins killed our king, and his heirs. The royal family is extinct, leaving Iberia leaderless. This is unacceptable in this critical time. We must decide what we are going to do.” Pelagius sat, and Agila, Count of Galicia, rose.

“Pelagius is right. We need strong leadership, now more than ever. And I believe that I am suitable to provide such leadership for Iberia. You all know me, you know that I have fought the Ctha'rists. I am related to the king, so I feel tha-” Another noble jumped up.

“Related,” he exclaimed. “Your great grandfather was a royal bastard. I don't call that related. I, on the other hand, am directly descended from a king.”

Yet another noble interjected, “Through the female line, five generations back. I...”

The meeting rapidly degenerated into a shouting match, with all sides proclaiming their fitness for the role. Through it all, Pelagius sat unmoving, until someone said, “What about Pelagius? He has the best claim of any of us.”Pelagius stirred at this, and the room quieted, waiting to hear what he had to say.

“No, I will not make a claim. I do not seek power,” Pelagius said. “But I say that we must select a leader quickly, and harmoniously. A struggle over leadership would be worse than no leadership at all. Listening to all you great lords proclaim the fitness of one candidate or another, I am not struck by any outstanding person, as all are equally fitting. But there is one name that I have not heard mentioned. Pepin.” There was a moment of confusion at this. One of the nobles said haltingly, “The Emperor?”

Pelagius nodded. “Indeed. For decades, Iberia and the Empire have been very close. At Genoa, we reconciled our religious differences. When the Ctha'rists came, Imperial troops helped us liberate the Pyrenees, and even now they fight with us in the south. The Emperor has ever been a protector of Iberia. With the king dead, he is the only protector that we have left. Rather than squabble amongst ourselves, I intend to give my allegiance to the Emperor.”

There was a long silence following Pelagius' declaration, as the lords considered his proposal. At length, Agila said slowly, “It is obvious that we will not come to an agreement on any other man. As Pelagius says, we must be united in this time of danger. I will the Emperor my allegiance, if you others will.” Around the room, nobles began to add their agreement. There were a few holdouts, but concentrating arguments from the others eventually swayed them, and all agreed in the end.

Nice story. I will be keeping and eye on the new Empire.

12/16 orders in. Deadline here.

Thou who hast not submitted orders before the deadline, don't worry if you can get them in within the next few hours.

Orders in, 20 minutes later than I said they would be.

I'm going to have to drop out of this, not enough time, and scotland wasn't going to go anywhere...

btw farrow as you may have guessed from the "there are rumors the king isn't dead" that there was a scottish resistance being formed...

I'm going to have to drop out of this, not enough time, and scotland wasn't going to go anywhere...

btw farrow as you may have guessed from the "there are rumors the king isn't dead" that there was a scottish resistance being formed...

I properly prepared for it. Half my orders were on Scotland and the occupation ;)

What would you say the ETA for the update is, Imago?

Just noticed this, and its an apt question, as, much like two weeks ago, I am not convinced I will be able to get the update done in any sort of timely fashion.

Of course, I always seem to prove myself wrong when I say this, but, *shrug.*

I'm going to have to drop out of this, not enough time, and scotland wasn't going to go anywhere...

Sorry to see you go.

Jahiyavarman I, King of all Khmer and crowned Chakravartin, stood silent at his window, looking at the bustling courtyard below. So much life, so many hopes and dreams, all in his hands. He sighed and turned away, walked back into his chambers and sat down at his desk. He had been meaning to read some of the communiques from the northern provinces, but instead he just sat looking straight ahead, followed the dancing flame of a candle in a sconce on the wall. Lately he had begun feeling every year in his body, even though they only numbered 38. His eyes were not as sharp as they once were, and some days his left leg made it hard to get out of bed. Being he who turns the Dharma Chakra sure didn't make the aches any less.

What really pained him though was not the physical aches, or his diminishing eye sight. Far worse was the ache inside over the loss of his son and heir. Strong-willed Surya, the coughs had taken him not a year ago, a young man in his prime. No way for a ruler-to-be to pass away. But such was life, and as Buddha teaches, loss is part of life. That only made the pain worse, the fact that he could not accept this loss and move on. He would need to find strength somewhere, and then a new heir. It would be the hardest moment of his life.

Jahiyavarman I, King of all Khmer and crowned Chakravartin, averted his gaze from the flickering light and picked up the top communique from the pile in front of him.

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Hope it's not too late for a story to make this deadline. It's not like it will affect gameplay any. :)

Ehh, what the heck, I'll be Bachia, orders being sent :p

I don't think it's too late. Last turn, there were eight stories posted after the orders deadline. However, it is too late to send orders.

*****

It is the feast of Saint Arascach, and the great nobility of the Empire have gathered in the great cathedral of Avignon. The High Priests themselves are there, and have given sermons on the war, and the sacrifices necessary. As the last of them finishes speaking, the Emperor ascends to the dais. The people are surprised; they had not expected the Emperor to talk. Pepin stands there for a moment, surrounded by the panoply of the Church, looking out over the flower of the Imperial nobility. He begins to speak, quietly at first, so that those in the back rows must strain to hear him, then louder.

“These have been dark times. Dark for the Empire, dark for Trinitism. We are seemingly surrounded on all sides by enemies. The Ctha'rist has attacked us, attacked Europe, in a bid for domination, and convinced the Byzantines to join him. They outnumbered us, and caught us while our back was turned. They thought to have an easy victory.

But the Ctha'rist underestimated us. He underestimated our resolve, underestimated our will to fight, underestimated what godly men may do in the defense of the innocent. We have not been defeated. We fight on still, and though we face many enemies, we win victories. Genoa has been liberated, the Pyrenees have been retaken, and though the Byzantines have advanced, they have paid for every yard with blood.

Indeed, it is only the Byzantines who have fought with us as equals. Only the Byzantines have been able to defeat us in level combat. Every time that Trinitists and Ctha'rists have met, and the numbers have been close to equal, Trinitists have had the day. So the Ctha'rist has beguiled the Byzantines into doing his work for him. Byzantines to do the dying, and Tunisians and Aegyptians to claim the spoils, that was the Ctha'rist plan. An uneven exchange. And it is here that I have good news. The Byzantines have decided not to do the Ctha'rist's work for him. They have decided to make peace.

Now there are no distractions. We can focus our full power on the Ctha'rist. And so now, it is Trinitism versus Ctha'rism. The great war, the war that has been fought, in some form or another, for centuries, the war that the Ctha'rist, above all else, wanted to avoid. On this battle depends the survival of Trinitism. On it depends our way of life and our Empire. The Ctha'rist knows that he must break us now or fall. All his terrible might will descend upon us. We will be ready, the people of Europe will be ready. The hordes of Africa will face the armies of Europe. And by the will of the gods we will be victorious.”

Ehh, what the heck, I'll be Bachia, orders being sent

I suppose I'll accept them. It's not as if the update's getting done anytime soon.

(To be precise, I have the domestic section done, and one war done. However, there are many other wars to go. And now, due to someone's unforseen set of orders, I have to rework all of Europe.)

Two weeks ago, Ctha'rist assassins killed our king, and his heirs.Assasination is the tool of the weak and cowardly. Tunis sent no one.

Only the Byzantines have been able to defeat us in level combat.True. I only beat up the Iberians when they had a numerical advantage.

"I came upon a group of men mocking a Celtic captive. The young man was in chains on his knees, staring blankly at the ground. The men were ridiculing him, kicking dirt at him, and spitting on the ground near him, a considerable insult in our lands."

"What noble men the Greeks employ!"

"No more noble than can be expected. For you see, we had just come through some of the most intense fighting of the German campaign and our famed Greek hospitality is not invincible. These men were burdened with their pains and had given themselves over to the empty ease of sin. And yet I did not continue walking, though I was due for a strategy session with the Strategoi."

"Indeed?"

"Indeed. I walked over to them and asked them. I said, 'Why do you insult this man so?' 'Why, he is a Celt, my lord!' replied they. 'He is a man,' answered I, "He is a child of the Highest.' At this point I raised the Celt to his feet. He stumbled, as his hands were bound, and the mud he was covered in soiled my tunic, but I simply smiled. 'Look into this man's eyes. Do you not see the eyes of a man? Do you not see the work of the Almighty?' 'My Lord, he is an enemy!' protested these soldiers. 'No,' said I simply, 'He is a brother. This brother fought for what he believes to be the Truth and you do no less yourself. The Kyrios did not die for Kyrians. He died for all mankind. He did not come to forgive you and I alone, my friend, but this little one here. This brave warrior who has been kneeling in this mud, enduring your ridicule, no doubt thinking of what horrible shame he has brought upon himself through capture.'"

"But... why say such a thing?"

"The man looked at me in awe. This Celt who had nothing suddenly had that which we had stripped him of - his dignity. That man had his honour back and I had the power to give it to him. He had committed no crime against us. And his sins against God are already forgiven. It was then that I demanded his key and I released his chains. Yet he did not run."

"Even from your camp in Germany?"

"No, he did not run. Neoteles, could you step in here for a moment."

"Who is this armoured man?"

"Neoteles is Greek for 'New Purpose.' The man from the story did not run to his family. No, but we brought his family to him. Neoteles followed me silently to my meeting and has rarely left my side since. He is one of my most trusted bodyguards"

"This is the man?"

"Indeed. Neoteles did not convert to Kyrianity immediately. In fact, it was many years and many hours of conversation before he decided to join the Ekklesia. Yet he was no less a person to me, nor to God Himself. Neoteles has told me many times I gave him then more than any man has ever given him. I do my best to respond, 'How very little I gave in light of God's gift to you.' Thank you Neoteles, you may go. As for you, I believe it is time to retire. Perhaps tomorrow night you could tell me stories of your time in Paris and we could discuss your Trinity at greater length."

- Conversations with a Trinitist, Alexandros IV Megas

Just noticed this, and its an apt question, as, much like two weeks ago, I am not convinced I will be able to get the update done in any sort of timely fashion.

That means I might be able to get my story in by tomorrow!!

First, I would like to tell you all that I'm sorry.

I've been intending to quit NESing for some time now; my free time has recently become more and more limited. I was intending to wait until this NES reached some proper conclusion, but recent events have forced me to do otherwise. This has nothing to do with NESing itself; if I had the free time, I would keep going with INES for sure, and join most other NESes, to boot, but the fact is, I don't.

This turn would have been a decisive one, and it would have been clear which side won the Great Crusades, once and for all, so I am truely sorry that the update is likely to never come. However, this might all be for the best, because, as things are left, all your empires still have a fighting chance.

If any sort of time opens up for me in the next few weeks, I will finish update 5, just so you all can see what happened, but I probably won't have the time. No awards for this; it just didn't go on long enough. And don't try to convince me to continue this, either, because I very much want to, but a variety of things are forcing me away.

I'll still be lurking, so if you people have questions about the update, or whatnot, I suppose I'll answer them. You all were great players, and I mean that. However, barring questions, I'm gone, so see ya. :) (:()

First, I would like to tell you all that I'm sorry.

I've been intending to quit NESing for some time now; my free time has recently become more and more limited. I was intending to wait until this NES reached some proper conclusion, but recent events have forced me to do otherwise. This has nothing to do with NESing itself; if I had the free time, I would keep going with INES for sure, and join most other NESes, to boot, but the fact is, I don't.

This turn would have been a decisive one, and it would have been clear which side won the Great Crusades, once and for all, so I am truely sorry that the update is likely to never come. However, this might all be for the best, because, as things are left, all your empires still have a fighting chance.

If any sort of time opens up for me in the next few weeks, I will finish update 5, just so you all can see what happened, but I probably won't have the time. No awards for this; it just didn't go on long enough. And don't try to convince me to continue this, either, because I very much want to, but a variety of things are forcing me away.

I'll still be lurking, so if you people have questions about the update, or whatnot, I suppose I'll answer them. You all were great players, and I mean that. However, barring questions, I'm gone, so see ya. :) (:()

Wow, this was a suprise.

Sorry to see you go and I hope you return soon :(

U've taken my trust and pushed it onto the ground hten kicked the crap out of it...

I understand...

All there is to do now is to open my own NES. I might not work out as good as this one but damn it if I cant try.

I am sorry it has to end, but it has been grand fun. Thanks very much for all your effort for our enjoyment. :) :hatsoff:

Either way, thank you for a great NES. Hopefully I can later on see Axum's rise to greatness. This series has been a great learning experience for me, and I enjoyed it a lot. I will soon start my own NES. If alright with you, and a few other things, I would like to at the least use the althist (war of endings NES?) or maybe continue after the update and have a BT. However, I have to think about this, as I must accomplish a lot before doing so.

AAARRRGGHH!!!

I got in so much trouble with my parents this morning by spending 'too much time' sending orders!

Though I understand Imago... hope things turn out fine for your schedule.

Sorry to see you go and I hope you return soon

Oh, I'm not really leaving. I'm just going to be hanging about the forum without enough time to actually participate. Sort of like Gelion.

All there is to do now is to open my own NES. I might not work out as good as this one but damn it if I cant try.

I don't know why, but I would very much like to see a board NES, possibly something much like the abortive j eps States and Provinces NES. Should be an easy way to enter modding.

I would like to at the least use the althist (war of endings NES?)

Sure. If you want a map, I could probably give it to you as well, as INES came about after I messed around with paint for a rather long while. I have maps for every fifty years from 1000 BCE to 1 AD.

or maybe continue after the update and have a BT.

If you were up to it, I would very much like that. No reason the NES should die just because I can't mod. Again, there's a whole host of things I could PM you, so just ask.

I got in so much trouble with my parents this morning by spending 'too much time' sending orders!

Well, they were good orders, and I enjoyed reading them. ;)

What a pity. Well, it's been fun. Thanks for all the effort you put into this. I don't suppose you will tell us who would have won the Great Crusades?

I had (I think) a pretty decent shot of ruining your army Perf.

Really? I was going to try to ruin your navy. What did you do? I sent 70 Squadrons into the Med, assuming England didn't betray me.

I figured you'd try something like that.

That would totally eff up my plans, I knew I should have put in more contingencies.

Then again, attacking me or Morocco would just give me more support.

And my navy is nothing to sniff at at that. It would definitely make things tricky. And I had several allies to help...

Once again, hard to say.

Was I as utterly ignored as I expected to be?


And if j_eps don't want it, Imago don't mind, and y'all don't think I would utterly destroy it, I'd be ecstatic to take over as mod from Imago. I assume there'll be a resounding "piss off" in reply, but I just thought I'd offer. :p

Never mind, you answered my question.

I really hope you have the time. I was really wanting to see how everything panned out.

Iggy you are so mean. I was outnumbered from the get go. And I never really cared for this war.

mhmm if all of our allied powers work together we would have 74 ships, but I doubt thats enough, I just hope Iggy Placed the requisite ships at Gibralta where the numbers don't mean so much.

Was I as utterly ignored as I expected to be?

Nope. I suppose I should mention that fantasmo's giant conspircy against the Iron Faces would have come out into the open, this turn.

Oh, and you being the mod would be great, too.

Nope. I suppose I should mention that fantasmo's giant conspircy against the Iron Faces would have come out into the open, this turn.

Oh, and you being the mod would be great, too.

Would I have won the civil war, or would my newly conquered empire fall apart like a deck of cards before I had my chance for my own 'Great Crusade'?

Iggy you are so mean. I was outnumbered from the get go. And I never really cared for this war.Your Crusaders
caused you to have a temporary numerical advantage. Sorry Lucky, I was just trying to feed my emaciated ego. :p
mhmm if all of our allied powers work together we would have 74 ships, but I doubt thats enough, I just hope Iggy Placed the requisite ships at Gibralta where the numbers don't mean so much.Regrettably, I didn't.

Sigh. :(

Would I have won the civil war, or would my newly conquered empire fall apart like a deck of cards before I had my chance for my own 'Great Crusade'?

Hard to say. If BEHIND_THE_MASK decided to redeclare war on you, and Sheep decided to fight to the end, the Iron Face Empire probably would have died. Otherwise, you might well have won.

Hard to say. If BEHIND_THE_MASK decided to redeclare war on you, and Sheep decided to fight to the end, the Iron Face Empire probably would have died. Otherwise, you might well have won.

I was not without allies. Delphi was secretly allied with me to reclaim its colonial empire, if Birdjaguar did not betray me, so if a Civil war broke out again in my lands, and Persia was weak, Delphi would take over for me on that front.

Contempt, I wouldn't worry. My rebellion wasn't going t ocome out into the open in any big way. I planned three rebellions to occur simultaneously in three cities, and counted on you crushing them. So I wasn't going to do you any real damage, just remind you that I was going to annoy the hell out of you for the rest of the NES.

And Imago, again, I'll take over from you if, and only if, you write this update as a parting gift, and the players have no problem with me taking over.

I was not without allies. Delphi was secretly allied with me to reclaim its colonial empire, if Birdjaguar did not betray me, so if a Civil war broke out again in my lands, and Persia was weak, Delphi would take over for me on that front.

i probably wouldn't have betrayed u... though, U might eventually have betrayed me.

Though, I really doubt u'd even reach the island ;)