Turn 167 to Council

167 to SABER

Turn 167 to FREE.

Turn 167 to GONG.

Turn 167 to BABE.

Team BABE? :bump:

Turn 168 to Council, no need to post reminders Paul, when I am able to play the turn I do it.

Turn 168 to Council, no need to post reminders Paul, when I am able to play the turn I do it.

Wotan, please either play on time or resign. Given the recent developments in this game it is clear you are doing more than just pressing enter to keep the game going. I'm sure you can understand how Paul and the rest of us feel. There's no need for me to justify Paul's reminder or this post since you did it so well for us.

It is now almost 3 days since BABE played the last turn, I am new to demo games but right now I see the progress in this game as ridiculous. What on earth can require teams to need a full day for a turn? Especially on a weekend? If the leadtime is this horrendous at this point in the game, will we have made it to 10AD by this time next year??? Maybe this is not the right place to bring this matter to the other teams attention but something has to be done about this if the game is to be enjoyable. I would have imagined weekends would allow for speedier progress with maybe a full turncycle per day...

Really annoyed now, no turn played and none on your team that could have figured out the wrong turn was sent 35 hrs before your post...

And no alternate to play the turn in your absense? Would have assumed another teammember would step in in a demo game. Instead of letting all other teams fiddle their tumbs for so long. Your team lacks respect for the other teams in my opinion when putting everything on a player that is not available... Just my 2 cents but really disappointed in this MTDGs progress. In a SG you have 24 hrs to post a got it you your team was AWOL for much much longer. We would like all teams to make sure turns are actually not dependant on a single player being available.

From another player on our team who digged this up from the rules we agreed on:
1.1 - The Save
All teams are required to play the save within 24 hours, unless they request an extension in the Turn Tracker thread. After playing the save, they must send it to the next team via email. Additionally, the turnplayer must post in the Turn Tracker thread to indicate the save has been sent. The next team's 24 hours begins after said post.


I guess it could be an issue, needing extentions when dealing with dozens of cities and units, but at this stage of the game it is simply ridiculous...

I too feel for you guys in GONG, it is unfortunate you have such an uncommitted team. I there anything the entire MTDG group of players can do to assist you? Do you need additional turn players? Do you want us to start bullying others we know but that have not joined the game to enlist for team GONG?

But it is impossible for us to have an understanding if not privvy to the reasons behind it. If TimB is the only available turn player on team GONG this will probably be a disaster in waiting. Relying on TimB to be available throughout the passage of this game sounds as a forbidding idea and I sure hope he will have some assistance from others on the team else I guess he will have nothing but MTDG2 on his mind and on his computer for the next couple of years. And I do hope he will have time to play for our team in SGOTM12 ;)

Not having full disclosure as to what is behind a team's silence is just aggravating and starts all sorts of reactions to start surfacing. Not our team's intention to bully someone in a precarious situation. Sorry about that. On paper all teams are within a couple of participants of each other.

Calm down. Not all of us have as perfect of turn players as The Council and SABER. This game, for all of its holdups, is moving at a decent pace. If Wotan leaves, who will play BABE's turn? Still, Paul's reminders are good for the rest of us in case we miss the post here.

Calm down... If Wotan leaves, who will play BABE's turn?

Telling me to calm down usually has the opposite effect my friend.

If Wotan can't play on time, has no interest in the game and no one else on his team wants to step up and play the turns then BABE should resign / retire. BABE would disappear from the game and the rest of us could finish the game out in a timely manner. As I said above I will not try justifying either Paul's reminder or my call for BABE's retirement - Wotan himself did that much more eloquently than I could hope to do.

I volunteer to pass to team BABE and assist Wotan on turnplay.

Thanks Rick :)

It's a bit of a pickle letting someone from another team essentially take over BABE… as it raises questions of where the real loyalty is at.
However, I'm inclined to agree that if the takeover is going to come from any team, it makes the most sense for the takeover to come from GONG.


Speaking for myself, the slow place of this MTDG is bit frustrating & dampens general enthusiasm… but doesn't totally kill the joy of the game.
For me – the biggest problem is just the lack of information. In every PBEM game I've ever played, people always lose track/get distracted/forget it's their turn multiple times. I'll admit even I do this from time-to-time.
That's one of the main reasons we have a turn-tracker thread… to keep track of who has the save, to notify others when we'll be slow, and to offer reminders when it's our turn to be distracted/forgetful.

I know Wotan is busy, and I appreciate the fact that he's soldiering on without much (any?) team support – but I still fail understand why we can't get some notice of when to expect the save. Even on a slow internet connection (like I have) it only takes a few moments if you bookmark the page, it assures everyone that you haven't forgotten, and is really a considerate thing to do for those of us who would like to know when we can generally expect the next save. The completely open-ended waiting can really drag on and (I think understandably) fray some nerves.

Since I've totally given up on any actual enforcement of the MTDG rules, I would personally be much happier if we just got regular requests for extensions when the save is going to be delayed more than 24 hours. Or even just when the save is going to be delayed more than 48 hours. :)

EDIT: … that way – when 24-48 hours have gone by without word from a team, other players can make an educated assumption that someone has sincerely forgotten, and the reminder posts are actually helpful, instead of perceived as nagging.

Sent request access to Team BABE, should my access to team GONG be canceled from now on?

While I'm personally probably going to vote in favor of letting you switch – this should probably be handled democratically, and let the teams or individual players vote on allowing this move…. Since it does have very big potentially game-changing consequences.

If you DO move to BABE, I think it'd be 100% necessary for you to rescind your membership in and access to GONG. Unless you're proposing that GONG just takeover BABE? In which case I'm most certainly opposed. :lol: - I'd want some kind of assurance that you intended to play BABE as a separate team and play to win… not just to provide military cover for whatever [top secret plan that no one knows about] way GONG plans to win.

If i leave GONG i will play to win with BABE yes :)

Turn 168 to Council, no need to post reminders Paul, when I am able to play the turn I do it.
I had the impression that at times my reminders - well reminded you that you had played but forgot to send, or forgot to play... :dunno:
At least I had the impression that it worked, I did certainly not mean to annoy but rather "encourage" you ;)
Sent request access to Team BABE, should my access to team GONG be canceled from now on?

If i leave GONG i will play to win with BABE yes :)

I support this move. :thumbsup:
Actually I'd also love to join you but I'm feeling too comfortable with my current team :love: and adopted The Council's philosophy way too much to switch.

Ah, by the way: turn 168 to SABER

Turn 168 to FREE.

Turn 168 to GONG.

Turn 168 to BABE.

team BABE... :bump:

To Saber...

Hey BCLG, nice to see a new face here :wavey:

You should forward your saves to The Council, not to SABER (unless we were elime... elemi... erm... killed this turn :shifty:

We did receive a save however, but it was another turn 168 save. We already had that one a week ago. Nice idea to replay a turn to get warm with the game. :p
Please check the sent emails directory, I don't think Wotan deleted those.

As team BABE is leading off the game, you should always increment the turn number in the save's name. This sent one however (according to CA2) is indeed 168. Please play and send 169.

I received turn 168 from gong, played the turn and the resulting save is what i got from playing it, labelled wrong naturally. Also looking at my sent files it is telling me i sent it to regentman, the council and ginger ale not saber so im really unsure how you came across it. I can resend but are council sure they haven't got the save?

Hmmm... sorry, my fault.

I could swear I had confirmed the turn number in CA2 and it read 168 - but now it's 169 so I guess it's fine except for the file name.

Sorry for confusion caused. :blush:

I already played... but forgot the save at home :wallbash:

I will send it in about 4 hours. Sorry. :blush:

turn 169 sent to SABER.

Turn 169 to FREE.

:bump: FREE?

I'll play really soon

Turn 169 to GONG

Turn 169 to BABE.

170 on to those jolly chaps at the council.

:wow: impressive speed! :thumbsup:

turn 170 to SABER

Turn 170 to FREE.

team FREE? :coffee:


(unless I misunderstand the am-pm-system and miscalculated the difference of 28 hours) :blush:

I should have the game played in 12 hours.

Sorry for the delay. 170 to GONG.

Turn 170 to BABE.

I may need 12 hours or so, i'll try and get it done tonight but probably wont have the time.

to council, apologies for the delay.

no problem, we are not spoiled ;)

171 to SABER

Turn 171 to FREE.

Turn 171 to GONG...

Turn 171 to BABE.

Right sorry again guys, i've got an essay due in tomorrow and my boiler is broke so im not at home but should be back by tomorrow so i'll play it as soon as i can but might not be within 24 hours.

Thanks for letting us know! :hatsoff:

On goes the next turn

And to SABER, the #172.

Turn 172 to FREE.

Turn 172 to GONG.

Turn 172 to BABE.

team BABE? :bump:

You doing that is going to do nothing but annoy me. I'm obviously trying to play the game where i can.

to the council

There have been a several instances where the save has stalled due to the turnplayer not noticing the email or the GPS announcement here. The bump serves as a neutral reminder, nothing more. If you have the save and know that you can't play it in the required 24 hours, just post an extension request :)

Otherwise nobody knows that you're on top of it :cool:

#173 to SABER

Turn 173 to FREE.

I'll play the save today.

:bump: Free? :)

Kuningas' last known post was in this thread two days ago.

Turn 173 (FREE) will be played in the next 24 hours.

Turn 173 to GONG.

Turn 173 to BABE.

I'll play shortly, sorry i've been out for a couple of days

to the council or whoever normally gets it :)

174 to SABER.
I'm sure they usually get it from us.

Turn 174 to FREE.

Turn 174 to GONG.

Turn 174 to BABE.

To the council.

:thumbsup:

Great turnaround!

yeah, good pace. :thumbsup:

175 to SABER

Turn 175 to FREE.

Turn 175 to GONG.

Turn 175 to BABE.

On to the council

176 to SABER

Turn 176 to FREE.

Guys unless the turn comes in the next few hours (probably not even then) i probably won't be able to play till sunday. I'm going back to the folks house for my mum's birthday, if anyone else on team BABE feels like grabbing it they're welcome too!

edit- i might have c3c access at home but im not going to promise anything really.

Turn 176 to GONG.

Turn 176 to BABE.

team BABE? :bump:

I believe BCLG is currently away, but will be back soon (judging by comments in the civ4 DG pitboss)

He's back now. :thumbsup:

Yeah im back, on to the council.

and over to SABER with some churchy ceremonial tones :band:

Turn 177 to FREE.

Turn 177 to GONG.

Turn 177 to BABE.

To the council.

turn 178 to SABER

Turn 178 to FREE.

Turn 178 to GONG.

Turn 178 to BABE.

To the council.

The Council would like to request a 24 hour extension.

:rolleyes: after my countless requests for extensions i should bloody well think not! ;)

You tell him, BCLG100! :rotfl:

Sorry for the delay BCLG. Turn 179 to SABER.

Turn 179 to FREE.

turn 179 to GONG

Turn 179 to BABE.

team BABE? :coffee:
:rolleyes: after my countless requests for extensions i should bloody well think not! ;)
Was that an extension request for this turn already? :dubious:

Sorry my efforts with attempting to forward all mail from gmail to my hotmail don't seem to have worked so well, anyone got any ideas how to fix that? i'll try and play in the next few hours.

You should be able to do that by setting up a filter in the gmail account, such that any address to your gmail gets auto-forwarded to your hotmail.

Top right Settings box -> Filters or -> Forwarding to POP/IMAP I suppose

The council should have it now.

Thanks BC - we got an e-mail, but it looks like there's no save attached to it!

Could you re-send?
Thanks!
:salute:

Balls, yeah i'll do it now, should be there in a couple of minutes.

turn 180 to SABER

Turn 180 to FREE.

turn 180 to GONG in an hour.

Turn 180 to BABE.

To the council.

Will be sent to SABER within an hour.

edit: played and sent.

Turn 181 to FREE.

Turn 181 to GONG.

Turn 181 to BABE.

To the council.

Just to let you guys know im moving house next week so will be without civ access for a couple of days.

edit- also if it comes round before sunday i wont be able to play, an emergency has come up and i have to go with my girlfriend to her dads. And allthough i'd like to use the save as an excuse i doubt it'll fly.

Well i'll post in the active forum and see if anyone gets back to me.

182 to SABER.

Good pace! :thumbsup:
Maybe we make another turn around till sunday? :groucho:

BCLG, could you ask Wotan if he is willing to step in for one or two turns?

Turn 182 to FREE.

I will take the save for Babe.

I will take the save for Babe.

That's like music to my ears. :) Thank you, sir!

Now we need FREE and GONG to play first. :bump:

I'll play save soon.

Turn 182 to GONG.

Turn 182 to BABE.

To the council.

And to SABER. :thumbsup:

Turn 183 to FREE.

Turn 183 to GONG

Turn 183 to BABE.

Whomper? :bump:

To the council apologies about the delay.

No problem, thanks. :)

As we said before, my reminders are just ment to prevent situations like in a little league outfield where the pop-up drops right in the middle between 2B, CF and RF... :crazyeye:
Someone has to charge. You did. Good job!

184 to SABER

Turn 184 to FREE.

FREE? :bump:

FREE? :dubious:

Could anybody at least reply here? :confused:

edit: CB pmed me that he'll play in roughly 12 hours...

Turn 184 to GONG.

Turn 184 to BABE.

Turn 184 to Council.

Thanks Whomp - but you sent the wrong save. We got the the GONG save. :( Would you please send along the one you played?

Sorry. Correct save sent.

185 to SABER

Turn 185 to FREE.

FREE, what's up with you guys? :confused:

Turn 185 to GONG.

Turn 185 to BABE.

Sent the save a few hours ago but forgot to post here!

No problem, curiosity found it ;)

Good pace! :thumbsup:

turn 186 to SABER

Turn 186 to FREE.

Turn 186 to GONG.

Turn 186 to BABE.

On to the council.

And 187 to SABER

Turn 187 to FREE.

Turn 187 to GONG.

Turn 187 to BABE.

team BABE? :bump:

another day lost in BABEland... :coffee:

I'll try and get on it soon.

to the council

turn 188 to SABER

Turn 188 to FREE.

team FREE? :bump:

What's up, losing interest so close to the finish? :confused:

We should have the turn played in 12ish hours. Paul, at this point, were having problems finding turnplayers who can play quickly and consistently. Hopefully our turnaround time should improve.

Things like that can happen on occasion - but what I'm asking for is some signs of life, a request for (actually a notification of) an extension so we know things are in a flow. :rolleyes:

Team FREE apologizes for holding onto this turn for so long. It should be played within the next 12 hours.

Turn 188 to GONG.

Turn 188 to BABE.

Team Babe, please... :bump:

Turn 188 to Council.

189 to SABER

Sorry, my computer is drastically playing up on me and not letting me access sites such as facebook/gmail/cdz and i have no idea how to fix it so for the time being i'll be unable to play.

It's ok I'll run with it S.

Turn 189 to FREE.

189 to GONG

Team Gong doesn't have a save in the gmail inbox, yet...

Sorry. I resent it, and you should have it now.

Turn 189 to BABE.

Whomp, please... :bump:

Any Babes out there? :confused:

self-censored...

Sorry everyone I forgot about this. GPS to Council.

turn 190 to SABER.

Whomp, if there any way we can remind you without annoying you, please tell me.

Would you prefer remeinder by pm, mail, phone calls, sms, pigeons? :groucho:

Turn 190 to FREE.

turn 190 to SABER.

Whomp, if there any way we can remind you without annoying you, please tell me.

Would you prefer remeinder by pm, mail, phone calls, sms, pigeons? :groucho:All of the above? :lol:
There's no annoying this old fart. I've got this on my radar and a pm nudge if I'm having a senior moment. :old:

team FREE?!? :bump:

Turn 190 to GONG.

Turn 190 to BABE.

Turn 190 to Council.

191 to SABER.

Whomp, You are leading off, so you might increment the turn number of the save after you played. Helps to prevent confusion.

Good pace, I'm glad my pigeon came through ;)

Turn 191 to FREE.

I've seen the turn, but I probably will be a few hours late with it.

191 to GONG

Turn 191 to BABE.

Turn 192 to Council.

Good Job, Whomp! :thumbsup:

192 to SABER

Turn 192 to FREE.

192 to GONG

Turn 192 to BABE.

Turn 193 to Council.

turn 193 to SABER

Turn 193 to FREE.

Team FREE? :bump:

Turn 193 to GONG.

Turn 193 to BABE.

Turn 194 to Council. Just a heads up. I'll be out of town Thursday or Friday (depending on noreasters) to Sunday.

Great pace everybody!! :thumbsup:

194 to SABER

Any BABE capable and willing to jump in for Whomp?
BLC, how's your computer doing?
Wotan?

I'd like to request an extension, probably no more than 12 hours.

Sorry, Paul #42.

I'd like to request an extension, probably no more than 12 hours.

Sorry, Paul #42.
No problem. Extensions can happen and will always be granted. :smug:

I'm not the only one impatiently waiting, I'm just the only one frequently annoying all other turn players... ;)

No big deal even if BABE does not find a way to play on the weekend - things like that also happen (and might happen to the Council as well).
I can do different things than staring at my empty post box... :D
I'd just like to know before. No problem, than.

It's looking more like Friday to Sunday (maybe Monday) for me.

It's looking more like Friday to Sunday (maybe Monday) for me.
So let's go, guys :whipped:

Just kidding, take your time necessary. :)

Turn 194 to FREE.


I hope....

Turn 194 to FREE.


I hope....

Oh, Ye of Little Faith!

But, man, he observes well!


Turn 194 to GONG.

Turn 194 to BABE.

Turn 195 to Council. We may not miss a beat. :D

Wow, great! The weekend is saved! :bounce:

turn 195 to SABER

Turn 195 to FREE.

Turn 195 to GONG.

Turn 195 to BABE.

Turn 196 to Council.

196 to SABER

Turn 196 to FREE.

Turn 196 to GONG.

Turn 196 to GONG.

Turn 196 to GONG.

Turn 196 to GONG.

Did you guys play the same turn twice? :dubious:
edit: Ah, no, GONGer Prince just sent the save to himself... :crazyeye:

You guys are really fast!! :eek: :woohoo:
I had different things scheduled for this evening... :shifty:

Heh, sorry about that. Turn 196 to BABE.

Turn 197 to Council.

great turn-around once again! :thumbsup:
But your save caught me sleeping, 20 minutes after I had been waiting here impatiently... :lol:

But better this way, this would have been a tough day if I had started playing at 0:15 am... :sleep:

So it's about 5 hours till I can send to SABER - I see chamnix already lurking around here... ;)

turn 197 to SABER.
Sorry for the delay, this one was complicated eventful... ;)

Turn 197 to FREE.

Turn 197 to GONG

Turn 197 to BABE.

I will play this tomorrow.

Team diplo handled. Turn 198 to Council.

198 to SABER

Turn 198 to FREE.

:bump:

Free? Anybody home??

:mischief:

We got it, but it will be about 12 hours or so before we get it played and posted.

(I saw the '13' but somehow read '14'. :crazyeye: and :old: )

Turn 198 to GONG.

Turn 198 to BABE.

I will try to play this tomorrow morning unless tonight is less eventful than I anticipate. Not likely...:D

Sorry for the delay. Turn 199 sent to Council.

No problem here.
Delay requested, granted :smug:, played, sent. Just fine :thumbsup:

199 to SABER.

Turn 199 to FREE.

team FREE? :bump:

Trouble to distinguish the numbers, again? :p

team FREE? :bump:

Trouble to distinguish the numbers, again? :p

Nah, just a busy day with the wife, the Charming Mrs. CommandoBob.

Turn 199 to GONG.

Turn 199 to BABE.

Welcome to the 200th turn.

great pace, everybody! :clap:
(even FREE considering the interference of Charming Mrs. CommandoBob) :love:

200 to SABER