NEW VERSION ! 1.7

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Looks good, but if you're going to post it here you should probably keep the civ-specific colors in. This will allow for more flexibility as others may want to use it as a non-unique unit. Keep up the good work.

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If anyone could give me tips on making good animation or shortcuts, it would be much appreciated. I have a lot of work ahead of me to animate the default,fidget,run,attack and death flics. Again, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

Looks good. Can't wait for the completed product so that I can add it in with the Bismark and Yamato.

Sense you are doing a ship it would be posible to only do the south, north, east or west, northeast or northwest, and southeats or southwest. You could cut you time in half by cuting and pasting and then you could chose flip image and it will be the wame image only backwords.

Heh heh, thx codemaster...have already done that for the views. I just have to go thru the animation work.

Finally, a decent version of the Iowa class battleship. I eagerly await the finished version. Keep up the excellent work!!!

Just remember all of your attack animations will have to be original, what I mean is you can't copy the SW attack for the SE attack, because the guns on the battleship are always turned to the right, with relation to which direction the bow is facing, believe me, I know. What I did on all 3 of my battleships that I made was keep the original battleship file open, and keep the one I was working on open, cut the images down so that I had each one right next to the other, then just cut and paste from one image to another whichever part I needed. For instance, the run animation, just copy the water ripples, and paste them in place on your ship. Be especially careful, and this goes with any unit, that you pay attention to the original Firaxis units. Because some of their pcx files will be bigger and smaller than others, some of the frames will be different sizes. Don't simply copy a frame from your default, and then paste it in your run file, if you do, the ship may jump from flc. to flc. in game, which can be very frustrating when you playtest it and are looking forward to bombarding bararians in 4000 bc. The solution is just to copy the battleship itself, no background, then paste it in a new pcx file, as closely ontop of the batteship in that file as you can.

Thanks for the advice ,TVA22, I was hoping to hear from you. I figured if anyone had good advice on ship animations, it would be you. I never noticed the guns always face right during attack. I'm working on the default views today, man, what a pain just to give the ship a little movement from the waves... ! I 'll definitely use your advice, thanks again.

I'm glad to see this Iowa Class BB I was just about to ask for some one to make one of these:goodjob:.I've been on one of the real Iowa Class BB(U.S.S. North Carolina) and this looks alot like it:D

excited to see the unit! :)

Originally posted by PC Commander
I'm glad to see this Iowa Class BB I was just about to ask for some one to make one of these:goodjob:.I've been on one of the real Iowa Class BB(U.S.S. North Carolina) and this looks alot like it:D

I thought the USS North Carolina was a separate class of BBs?

An excellent source of information on naval warship can be found at www.hazegray.org Look in the naval history section for info and pictures concerning the different classes and types of ships.

Thanks for the compliment PCcommander, but I do have to correct you. The Iowa class consisted of the following ships : USS Iowa BB61, USS New Jersey BB62, USS Missouri BB63, and USS Wisconsin BB64. The North Carolina was one of the two North Carolina Class Battleships, the other was the USS Washington. However ,the South Dakota class does have a similar appearance to the Iowa Class, in fact, the Iowa class borrows some designs from the South Dakota class.
Anyway, glad to see the support for this project, but have patience guys, it'll take me a while. I'm pretty picky,so I want to make it look as good as I can, and I don't have a lot of time to spend on it. I'm almost done with the Default animation, next step will be either fidget or run animation.

Oh i didn't know I was watching the history channel and i thought(I was pretty sure)the U.S.S. North Carolina was a Iowa Class. thanks for telling me about that:goodjob:

Any chance of getting a retrofitted version (late 80s)?

This thread is getting old. Is the Iowa still under development? It would be nice for america to have a unique battleship.

yes, is it still under development? If not, how about putting the work so far on here, so maybe someone will finish it.

Sorry for the hold up guys. I put the default views ingame, and played it. I decided to make further changes . Just touching up the image more . This is the 1980s refit. Notice the helo pad on the fantail and the radar mast on the no 1 funnel. Sorry guys, I haven't touched this in weeks, been busy. I'll try to start making time to finish this up. If not, I'll post my revised default views to let someone else finish it. I'll let you guys know.

Originally posted by vingrjoe
Sorry for the hold up guys. I put the default views ingame, and played it. I decided to make further changes . Just touching up the image more . This is the 1980s refit. Notice the helo pad on the fantail and the radar mast on the no 1 funnel.

Thanks :D

I found this great picture of one of the modernized Iowas firing all its guns. Thought I'd share it. :)

Sweet, I think I have that photo in one of my books.

Progress is slow on the Iowa graphics. I redid the default photos, I wasn't happy with my first renderings. I am working on "RUN" graphics now. I will probably post the default and run files when I am done. I am not spending too much time on this project lately. Summer is here, and I don't want to waste it like I did last year. When I am on the comp', I play games more than working on this,just because playing games is more enjoyable. Sorry for the slow progress guys.

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Sweeet, an Iowa class. I love my naval units so i can't wait for this to be finished. Keep up the good work :)

First off, I would like to apologize to everyone eager about this project. I am post-poning it until late summer/early fall. I don't not have enough time right now to finish it. I don't even have my revised Default flics done. I should have not even posted anything until I was finished. I just wanted to see if there were any support for this idea, and there is. Any moderator reading this, please delete this whole thread. Sorry guys. It will get done, just not anytime soon.

Aaaaw, shame, was looking forward to that unit. :(

sorry, ignore this.

Great unit, though I wish some one would do a British batttle ship :) Like Hood,Repulse of King George V

Originally posted by Jagdpanther
I thought the USS North Carolina was a separate class of BBs?

You are correct. The Iowa class BBs were built late into WWII, and there were only four of them:
BB-61 USS Iowa
BB-62 USS New Jersey
BB-63 USS Missouri
BB-64 USS Wisconsin

All are now floating museums. :D
The battleship is now truly obsolete. :(

The North Carolina (also a floating museum docked in Wilmington) was built earlier in the war, and is slightly smaller. I forget which other BBs are in that same class.

The battleship is now truly obsolete.
At least until missile defences make airplanes and cruise missiles obsolete:cool: :mwaha:. Then the days of the big guns will be back. They'll be back! They always come back....:p

Kman

Big guns will always be around in one shape form or fashion. Also, thanks joespaniel, I was always wondering what the 4th of the series was. Also, if possible, this should be able to carry cruise missles, seeing as the 80s retrofit did include that into the system, later used during the Gulf War. Also, vingrjoe, not bad looking, always loved that class of ship, nice choice.

the best part of the retrofitted BB's is that they are playable in the game. IRL, they were too expensive, but in the game, every unit costs the same maint :)

Dont worry, just got paint shop pro, and am working on a brittish battleship. Also plan to do the 43 destroyer, and the 22 and 23 frigates.

Thanks for the compliments. I will probably be posting the default and run flics sometime in the next 2-3 weeks. I have yet to start on the attack or death flics. The attack will be difficult, because I want proper lighting from the gunfire onto the ships surfaces. I will not have the Iowa roll or move back in the attack flic, because it doesn't in real life. If you look at the pic alphawolf 64 posted, you will see the water moves from the gunblast, but the ship isn't moving. I don't think I will do a "fidget" flic, although this is a game, in real life, a battleship's turrets just do not swivel quickly. I prefer a more realistic approach to my game, but that is just me.
I'm running my first draft default flics in my games right now, and I have the Iowa set to carry 2 cruise missiles. Although anyone can set the transport capacity to what they want.


*sidenote* There were some claims that the Iowas would move back 3-4 feet when firing a broadside. This allegation is false. When an Iowa class fires a broadside, all 9 guns don't fire at the exact same time, they are timed to fire microseconds apart in sequence. Plus ,the weight of an Iowa class battleship is 58,000 tons, full load. That is a lot of weight to move, even in water! Most of the force from the gunblast is used to propel the projectile, the other enegy is absorbed in each gun's recoil. The disturbance in the water you see under the gunblast , is pressure hitting the water from the gunblast, not the ship moving.

Big guns were majestic, but they'll never be main arsenal again, atleast not in the US Navy. And I doubt that any other countries are budgeting the building of a BB.

Sea Wolf Class & Trident Class Subs are the dominant sea ships now.:nuke:

The USS Iowa and USS Wisconsin are on the US Navy's inactive reserve fleet, so they are not totally out...yet. As for most powerful surface vessel today, referring to nuclear weapons , it would be the nuclear missile sub, but regarding convetional weapons, the Aircraft carrier carries the most firepower nowadays.

*Tom Clancy wrote a non-fiction book called "Carrier", excellent book. It goes into detail about the ship and it's airwing.*

Those battleships are packed away just to save maintenance costs, but be sure that in the event of a major war they'll be fired up in no time. By the way, as far as nuclear missile strength goes, the Iowa also carries a set of cruise missile nukes just to be on the safe side.

I hope you finish up this unit so many people are waiting for. It would be a nice addition to get some battleship variety.

Originally posted by vingrjoe
Thanks for the compliments. I will probably be posting the default and run flics sometime in the next 2-3 weeks.


Juhuuuu :confused: !!!

Well, I finally got the Default Flic done...most of you should know what to do...create a new unit using the battleship files, rename it Iowa Class Battleship, and paste this into the art file and change the ini file to use this as default. I will be working on finishing up the run Flic this week.

Hmmm- looks quite decent, Thx for the preview :) :) :)

Hey when's it gonna come. I've been waiting for the run flic for three weeks.

Kuhl.. Ill be looking forward to sinking it with my bismarck

Davidky5, sorry man, real life has been consuming my time. I'm remodeling a bedroom right now(have to get at least the new insulation in and sheetrock up before it gets too cold. Plus, I had to reformat my HD, and ended up installing WinXP. I did save the flic files though.

I have the run flc about 60-70% complete. After the run flic is finished, I might just hang it up and let someone else do the death and attack flics. Cut-n-paste and editing pixel by pixel just plain sucks. When I do have free time to spend on the computer, I'd rather play games than do more tedius work. Sorry to everyone for empty promises.

I would really like to see one of the 3D artists in here , takeover and give this project a facelift, while keeping true to the Iowa class distinctions. But hey, who am I to give suggestions when I don't even finish my own work. Patience, the run flic will get done, just can't guarantee when. :(

What happened to this unit?!
Can you finish it? Please!

I took the liberty of making a run animation, but only a 6 frames long. I hope the original author won't mind. I'll post it if anyone wants?

yes please :)

I'll just stick this in until the real one arrives. Can't figure out how to do the attack anims though.

looks nice :goodjob:

vingrjoe has not posted here since 24 sep and i dont think he will come back, so goahead and complete the unit.

Copy and pasted the Yamato turrets directly onto the Iowa. Had to clip some of the blast since the frames were too small.

Didn't include the water movement though. Maybe someone with more artistic ability can add them?

Really nice job :goodjob:

Excellent work. Thank you for your additions. The run looks darn close to the one I was working on, I had the NW/SW NE/SE views left when I quit working on them. The attack animation looks better than I thought it would.
I was hoping, someone would've figured out how to show the reflection of the gunblasts on the ship's surface, like the default battleship attack(you can see an orange blast reflection on the ship). But again, good work ! Thanks for taking the time to finish what I should've but didn't.

The INI is missing I think. How can we use the unit without an INI file?

just take the ini file from the battleship and change it into what you need for the animations and sounds, some unitcreators don't add ini files, it's no big deal i guess

i took the liberty of creating an ini file myself for those lazy people :p,
it has links to the battleship sounds, and the three animations allready made
hope it helps :)

Originally posted by Zeekater
i took the liberty of creating an ini file myself for those lazy people :p,
it has links to the battleship sounds, and the three animations allready made
hope it helps :)
Thank you. :goodjob:

death animation?

Originally posted by davidky5
death animation?
Um..... the battleship is invulnrable so it can't die.

LOL