Any other old farts out out there who have played the Civilization board & card game published by Avalon Hill? Would you be interested in a forum section theron?

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

[This message has been edited by Lefty Scaevola (edited October 25, 2000).]

If anyone wants it, a PC version of this board game is downloadable from http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Advanced+Civilization. It's actually not like the civilization computer games we all know, it is in fact based on the board game exactly. http://forums.civfanatics.com/smile.gif

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Did I see some agism in Thuderfall's comment the the last poll result, "I tend to associated civ1 players with older players"
And what about realllly old farts who have played original civilization, for around 20 years

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

[This message has been edited by Lefty Scaevola (edited October 27, 2000).]

. One of the special characteristics of the original civiliaztion board/card game was the almost total lack of chance. After decide the order in which the players chose their civlization from africa/rome/illyria/thrace/crete/asia/assyria/babalonia/egypt the only (a virtually irrelevant) random factor left was how 1 value trade cards (8 ochre & 8hides) and 2 value (5 iron & 5 papyrus) were initially mixed in their respective stacks. after that EVERYTHING was 100% determined by the players. conflict was strickly derterminate by numbers & bonuses, even the order in which trade & disaster card was returned to the stacks was dertermined by rules. This obviated my my gaming motto of "victorius through better dice" and render useless my pre game ritual of sacrificing left over pizza to FORTUNA the dice god.
. Sone years later an add on upgrade, Avanced Civilization, added some more, minor, elements of chance.

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola:
Did I see some agism in Thuderfall's comment the the last poll result, "I tend to associated civ1 players with older players"
And what about realllly old farts who have played original civilization, for around 20 years



I have changed my mind. You Civ1 players are not that old after all. http://forums.civfanatics.com/biggrin.gif



[This message has been edited by Thunderfall (edited October 27, 2000).]

Tuesday was my 18th birthday. http://forums.civfanatics.com/biggrin.gif http://forums.civfanatics.com/smile.gif

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. Congatulations TTG, on not having died yet! http://forums.civfanatics.com/rolleyes.gif

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

. Timeless is as timeless does; I wish I could say that in latin. http://forums.civfanatics.com/biggrin.gif

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Gauis Mucius Scaevola
Older, richer, and wiser than you.

Tuesday was my 18th birthday.


Happy Birthday!!!! :)

Hey lefty. I have the game. Yeah well its not MINE for say but it is in my possesion. So... yeah never could figure out how to play it.

I have the original Civilization board game, but I haven't played it in the last sixteen years or so -- partly for lack of opponents, but also because I found the game system a bit weird. There were things I liked about it, but the way counters had to double as population and treasury was kind of unintuitive. I think that was a design feature that existed only because it was a board game and it made life mechanically simpler for the players: there would be no need for such a mechanism in a computer game.

I actually bought the computer version of the game from Avalon Hill in 1995. It seemed a faithful implementation of the board game, but it was still rather puzzling, and somehow it seemed disappointingly dry and lacking in appeal. I'm afraid I never completed a game.

It was very annoying not being able to see the whole map at once; and the programmed opponents were rather slow (though admittedly not as slow as human opponents...).

It's a pity that it wasn't successful in the long term (though the board game was initially quite successful), because it was a simpler and neater game than Sid Meier's, and it would be good to have something like that available as an alternative. Sid Meier's Civilization is addictive, and I've played it a lot, but it's long and complicated and I'd prefer something shorter and simpler.

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Any other old farts out out there who have played the Civilization board & card game published by Avalon Hill? Would you be interested in a forum section theron?

Never actually played the game (except for the AdCiv Computer rendition), but... Heck, why not? :lol:

The Civ board game is still on sale at a not-too-distant games shop in Colchester.
Which is more than can be said for my favourite Cosmic Encounters (which we either have to make ourselves have to import at massive expense).

It's four in the morning (but I don't have a blue raincoat). I've just come across this site:
http://www.lilback.com/civilization/ah/board.html

It might be interesting to all you older people:D

Talking of which, was I imagining things a few days ago or was someone credited with a fifty-third birthday?:)

The lilback site is worth checking out for anyone who likes civ 1. Certainly, the FAQ at the lilback site is worth reading, and some of the other stuff too. There was a time when it was the only resource available for civ 1 on the world wide web (there may have been other *internet* resources, such as newsgroups or something). Now, of course, there are 3: the Lilback site, my old site (just floating around in files now), and the civ1 content here. Everything else on the internet is pretty much copied from these 3 sources. Now that I think of it, there were a few other fan sites, but very small and without any useful information except one notable example and that was CivMan's site, which contained detailed documentation of all of the hex codes for the save game files...

... Ah, the good ol' days.

Anyway, back to my point: Visit the lilback site if you haven't yet.