For Vanilla (http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=19218)
Or Warlords (http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=19396)

I haven't tried them out and don't know if they fix all outstanding issues. But for Vanilla the list does not include some things I am interested in like 'black ice' and kernel panics on ATI cards in Intel Macs. Maybe they are fixed - reports eagerly awaited.

The patch description at MacGameFiles (http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=19218) does not describe a fix for the kernel panics. I am hoping, but worried. Will install tonight.

Civilization IV 1.61 Rev B

This is an official update for Civilization 4. It will fully update any previous version of Civilization 4 to version 1.61 Rev B. It is recommended for all users.

This update contains the following fixes:

Adds cross-compatibility with PC's through Gamespy®
- Fixes sound errors in the tutorial when played in 10.3.9
- Fixes blackscreen window when loading game from tutorial on an Intel Mac
- Fixes crash in German tutorial
- Fixed Fog of War effect
- Fixes terrain issue on GeForce 7300 cards
- Fixed issue where portraits would not appear when using a GeForce 6800 in Mac OS 10.3.9
- Fixed tutorial terrain issues on GeForce 5200 and 7300 cards

Does anyone know if patching warlords to 2.08 break 2.00 saves?

Does anyone know if patching warlords to 2.08 break 2.00 saves?

No. But someone has to go first.

(And you can always reinstall 2.00 if it gives you grief.)

Thanks for the links!

Looks good so far.

The following graphics issues that I had are fixed as far as I can tell:

Trees are now the right height
Black terrain and FOW problems seem to be gone.
Mehmed II leaderhead works

It looks as if the Civ4 and Warlords versions of the Mac HoF Mod work. :)

The bad news - still no SDK :(

[PS] I never realised the waves were supposed to lap on the beach like that - they must have been broken before.

If I'm only playing warlords, do I need both?

Probably not, but why not install both? It's not a big job unless you're on dial-up

Is there anyone with Mac Warlords 2.08 who hasn't read the WOTM 5 spoilers, and would like to play the game? It has three weeks to run, and I can put together a set of saves if required.

Blue Marble and Better Ship Scales mods still work?

Blue Marble's fine. I don't use Better Ship Scales, so I don't know about that one

Crashes upon the initial screen (after loading files) on Macbook 2Ghz, 10.4.8. Anyone else?

just downloaded it now.. what are the notes referring to when it reads "...as per Blake"???

A few problems:
- I am missing some sounds now (interface sounds)
- a huge horizontal part of the screen went white in the hour I have played so far, zooming in and out fixed it, moving around did not

Might be a touch faster playing/loading etc (might be my imagination)

most importantly for me:
- GameSpy does not seem to work (yes, i confirmed my user name and password at their web site, when I click the login button, the clouds hesitate for a sec then continue... the login screen never changes) help!

do I need to open any ports?


I'll try Warlords a bit later after the kids are in bed (hmmmm does gamespy work on Warlords?)

Mac OSX 10.4.8, iMac G5 1.8 1 gig 64mb gfx card nvidea 5200 fx (yeah, i know)

most importantly for me:
- GameSpy does not seem to work (yes, i confirmed my user name and password at their web site, when I click the login button, the clouds hesitate for a sec then continue... the login screen never changes) help!

On PC you need to create the user from inside the game.. I believe the gamespy user for civ4/warlords add some special chars to the name or something..
If trying to log in with a char you created in another way it reacts like you described..

do I need to open any ports?
(hmmmm does gamespy work on Warlords?)

Should not have to open ports for gamespy.. however I dont know if gamespy works on mac... I believe to play on gamespy the game needs some special gamespy libraries that isnt included on the mac version?

Creating a Gamespy account worked for me.

I have to say, kudos to Aspyr for managing to get Gamespy's browser in the game. I definitely was not expecting it. I never bothered to use Gameranger, and this will make playing multiplayer games much more pleasant. I played a bit on it and it wasn't laggy at all on my 1.67 powerbook. I'm wondering, did CivIV sell well enough that they could justify paying Gamespy's outrageous fees?

That said, the game I played had only music and ambient sounds...(I'm using Warlords.)

I'm having crash-on-start problems as well. My unit: 1.83gHz MacBook (standard 60GB version).

Installed the patch to Vanilla. Played for a little more than an hour, full screen mode. No crashes or other problems yet on 1st generation MBP.

Crashes upon the initial screen (after loading files) on Macbook 2Ghz, 10.4.8. Anyone else?

BTW, this is Warlords. Haven't tried straight Civ.

I reconfirmed my account name (don't use spaces or special characters) via gamespy's web site, relogged in to CIV, set up the same exact info in CIVanilla, tried to log in and PRESTO! worked perfectly from then on.

CIVVarlords works great as well.

Tons of PC CIVaholics playing games on both.
I played 3 games (tho none got very far for various reasons).

Thank you Aspyr!!!!!! and gamespy/fireaxis

ps - no graphics glitches thos sounds still seem oddly absent
might play a hair faster? zooms seem smoother on my antique video card (powered by kerosene, enormous brass wheels and drive belts)

Crashes upon the initial screen (after loading files) on Macbook 2Ghz, 10.4.8. Anyone else?

Same macbook, same OS X (including all the most recent updates), just installed Warlords 2.08, loads files etc, screen goes blank and then I get the "this application has quit unexpectedly" dialog.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Removing my ~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords folder didn't help...

What does the crash report say? Click 'Send to Apple' in the crash dialog and look at the text you get. You don't have to send it to Apple, but Aspyr might like a copy. If you paste the first part of it here, you *might* get some clues.

Here's the full text of the crash report:



Date/Time: 2007-01-25 21:20:12.903 +0000
OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L2127)
Report Version: 4

Command: Civilization IV Warlords
Path: /Applications/Games/Civilization IV/Warlords/Civilization IV Warlords.app/Contents/MacOS/Civilization IV Warlords
Parent: WindowServer [65]

Version: 2.00 (2.00)

PID: 1798
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000030

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00023ef2 IDirect3DDevice_Mac::DrawIndexedPrimitive(_D3DPRIM ITIVETYPE, int, unsigned, unsigned, unsigned, unsigned) + 1426
1 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x007c8441 GD3D9Renderer::DrawPrimitives(unsigned, unsigned, unsigned, unsigned, GD3D9Renderer::PrimitiveType) + 81
2 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x007fd0ed GD3D9DrawOpRecorder::RenderOps() + 761
3 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x007ce52a GDrawSurfaceD3D9Impl::FlushBaseRenderOps() + 56
4 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x007ce874 GDrawSurfaceD3D9Impl::EndFrame(unsigned char, GRect const*) + 54
5 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00359ddf GCtrl::PaintControlSection(GRect const&, GRect const&, GPoint const&, GCtrl::ClipMode) + 447
6 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00367db7 GCtrl::DoPaint(GRect const&, GRegion const*, bool) + 1951
7 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x0037dda6 GCtrl::PUpdateControl(GRegion*, unsigned long) + 1416
8 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x0037dfe1 GCtrl::UpdateControl(GRect const&, unsigned long) + 123
9 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x0037e0a2 GCtrl::UpdateControl(GRegion const*, unsigned long) + 172
10 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00353a51 GCtrlManager::UpdateAllControls() + 91
11 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00227321 CvGFC::Render(float) + 165
12 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x000e641d CvUpdater::basicUpdater() + 599
13 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00066883 CvApp::InitGame() + 2935
14 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x000618d4 CvApp::Init(HINSTANCE__*, char const*) + 1928
15 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x000f3e51 WinMain + 33
16 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x0000327f sEventLoopEventHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 111
17 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcc7eb DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1093
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcbe90 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 304
19 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcbd55 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 55
20 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dd325d ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCa llRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 357
21 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dccba2 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2044
22 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcbe90 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 304
23 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dd30f0 SendEventToEventTarget + 56
24 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e16d8f ToolboxEventDispatcher + 81
25 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e15783 RunApplicationEventLoop + 165
26 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00003338 InstallEventsAndRunGameLoop() + 166
27 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x000036c3 main + 349
28 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x00002a82 _start + 216
29 com.aspyr.civ4warlords 0x000029a9 start + 41

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90048a47 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 7
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cdd0ab TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 163
2 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x98aa1992 ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 4895
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90048a47 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 7
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cdd0ab TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 163
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ce6ff0 AIOFileThread(void*) + 1068
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082969a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90828eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145c8da HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 158
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145c6f5 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90048a47 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91469a10 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 212
2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91469932 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 66
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914683a2 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 690
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914680e9 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 17
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145c6f5 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024427 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 GLEngine 0x2f0f0fb2 gleCmdProcessor + 350
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002449f semaphore_wait_trap + 7
1 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x98b26c62 audioprepThreadEntry + 93
2 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x9913a97d start_thread + 54
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000030 ebx: 0x2e063000 ecx: 0x0000001c edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0xffffffff esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffeac8 esp: 0xbfffe9a0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010297 eip: 0x00023ef2 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

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Model: MacBook1,1, BootROM MB11.0061.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core Duo, 2 GHz, 2 GB
Graphics: Intel GMA 950, GMA 950, Built-In, spdisplays_integrated_vram
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 1 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 1 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x86), 0.1.27
Bluetooth: Version 1.7.9f12, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Ethernet intégré, Ethernet, en0
Serial ATA Device: TOSHIBA MK6034GSX, 55.89 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-857, 459.09 MB
USB Device: Built-in iSight, Micron, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, Apple Computer, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: IR Receiver, Apple Computer, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Bluetooth HCI, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA

It's obviously a graphics system crash. It looks like the MacBook's (unsupported) integrated graphics chip has been left out of the testing.

Do you get the same with Civ4 vanilla?

Just installed the patch. When great people are born to cities owned by leaders I know, the chat log says "Michaelangelo has been born in U (R)!" instead of Uppsala and Ragnar. Is there any way to fix this?

Just installed the patch. I created a gamespy account at gamespyid.com, and verified my email address.

However, I cannot log into gamespy. When I hit login, the clouds just pause for a second.

Is this perhaps because I am using this from a school network?

Just installed the patch. I created a gamespy account at gamespyid.com, and verified my email address.

However, I cannot log into gamespy. When I hit login, the clouds just pause for a second.

Is this perhaps because I am using this from a school network?

Could be, but I would think gamespyid.com would've been blocked as well. Or, there are no open ports from the school.

Er, college network actually, so it's not that it's blocked.

No open ports sounds like it could be the problem... the college makes you register your MAC address to play on XBox Live, so might I have to do something similar for cIV?

Here's the full text of the crash report:



Why does your crash report say version 2.00? Are you sure the patch installed properly?

JoAT

Just installed the patch. When great people are born to cities owned by leaders I know, the chat log says "Michaelangelo has been born in U (R)!" instead of Uppsala and Ragnar. Is there any way to fix this?

I have 24" imac latest Os x, after downloading 2.08 patch I get same types of messages with those announcesments, like "Great leader born in U(2)" or something.

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I played about 5 hours last night, and the game crashed to desktop twice. I sent error to Apple, did not copy and paste it first.

Sometimes, my Great Wall casuses weird graphics glitches, flashing really fast; restarting seemed to resolve it every time.

Aside from Gamespy and perhaps a slight speed increase, this patch is anti-good. Seems to have brought all the bugs from the initial release. (The speed increase might be my brain seeing something it wants to see rather than what is there).

•*No sounds except ambient stuff. Not even Nimoy's narration.
•*The globe view is broken again. Messed up textures. At one point my globe featured the texture of the top right corner. Weird.

The above issues are in Warlords. In vanilla, I can't even get a game to launch. It crashes at "setup players". Powerbook 1.67, 10.4.8.

Here's a crashlog:


Version: 1.61 (1.61)

PID: 2481
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000096

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00686c60 RaiseException + 6625292
1 com.aspyr.civ4 0x005e0fd4 RaiseException + 5946240
2 com.aspyr.civ4 0x004ebe40 RaiseException + 4942316
3 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00633d90 RaiseException + 6285628
4 com.aspyr.civ4 0x007016e0 RaiseException + 7127692
5 com.aspyr.civ4 0x006ddbbc RaiseException + 6981480
6 com.aspyr.civ4 0x004e3e64 RaiseException + 4909584
7 com.aspyr.civ4 0x0053e388 RaiseException + 5279540
8 com.aspyr.civ4 0x0053e158 RaiseException + 5278980
9 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00539308 RaiseException + 5258932
10 com.aspyr.civ4 0x0049abf0 RaiseException + 4609948
11 com.aspyr.civ4 0x0049c938 RaiseException + 4617444
12 com.aspyr.civ4 0x004e7318 RaiseException + 4923076
13 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00002cd4 0x1000 + 7380
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93207554 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 692
15 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93206cac SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 372
16 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93206b28 SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 40
17 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9320de9c ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCa llRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 704
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x932077a4 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1284
19 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x93206cac SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 372
20 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9320da60 SendEventToEventTarget + 40
21 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9324e7a0 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 92
22 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9324e72c HLTBEventDispatcher + 16
23 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9324cce4 RunApplicationEventLoop + 148
24 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00002d84 0x1000 + 7556
25 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00002f20 0x1000 + 7968
26 com.aspyr.civ4 0x000027f4 0x1000 + 6132
27 com.aspyr.civ4 0x00002624 0x1000 + 5668

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900745e4 thread_suspend + 88
3 <<00000000>> 0x0241c9b4 0 + 37865908

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 com.unsanity.ape 0xc0001b54 __ape_agent + 296
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054ae8 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90071168 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf5500 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x998487c4 ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 5300
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054ae8 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90071168 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf5500 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bfffa8 AIOFileThread(void*) + 520
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dcb78 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907dc47c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145563c HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 264
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914553dc CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054ae8 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90071168 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91466794 CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned long long) + 204
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914666a4 CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned long long) + 304
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914648e8 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 852
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91464580 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry(HP_IOThread*) + 16
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914553dc CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bcb8 semaphore_wait_trap + 8
1 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x99d8e274 QTThreadWaitSignal + 100
2 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x998c82dc audioprepThreadEntry + 76
3 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x99d8df34 start_thread + 84
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90054ae8 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90071168 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bf5500 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 176
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bfd49c TimerThread + 60
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x0000000000686c60 srr1: 0x000000000000f030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x28822284 xer: 0x0000000020000007 lr: 0x00000000005dd68c ctr: 0x00000000007ed2ac
r0: 0x00000000005dd684 r1: 0x00000000bfffed40 r2: 0x0000000000810000 r3: 0x0000000000000000
r4: 0x0000000000812610 r5: 0x000000000000000e r6: 0x0000000000000000 r7: 0x0000000000000000
r8: 0x000000002440358f r9: 0x0000000000000003 r10: 0x000000002440158b r11: 0x00000000010333bc
r12: 0x00000000007ed2ac r13: 0x0000000000000002 r14: 0x0000000000000000 r15: 0x00000000a32072b8
r16: 0x00000000016923a0 r17: 0x00000000bffff720 r18: 0x000000004b57494e r19: 0x000000004b57494e
r20: 0x00000000016305c0 r21: 0x00000000ffffd96e r22: 0x0000000000000000 r23: 0x00000000bffff880
r24: 0x0000000000000000 r25: 0x0000000002c0c000 r26: 0x00000000243ac5e0 r27: 0x0000000000000001
r28: 0x0000000000000006 r29: 0x0000000000000000 r30: 0x0000000000000000 r31: 0x00000000243ac5e0

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Normally I wouldn't care about getting vanilla working, but I was planning to play a multiplayer game in the near future with some people who don't have warlords yet..

Hi this is my first actual post, been reading the forums here for a long time. So Hi everyone.

Anyway the reason why i am posting is because this thread seem to intrigue me the most.
Becasue as after patching to the Civ IV Warlord Rev A patch i also noticed that when great people are born the message says "Great leader born in X (Y)"

I was also still noticing that the ice at the polls was still turning black after extened periods of play.

It doesnt seem like anyone has any suggestion for the great leader messages so I was just posting to at least show that its not just a couple of people.

Just one other thing i noticed that when you get info on the Warlords app in the finder it says version 2.00 still but in the actual game under the build section it actually say 208 or somthing like that which would suggest its is indead the right patch I assume its just the way the patch is done right? And that would make sense to the reason why the guy that posted his crash report said 2.00. instead of 2.0.8.

So just checking to make sure everyhting seemed ok.

Have just done CIV (vanilla) REV B patch as well but havent played it so can't report any bugs with that yet.

- Using a 1st Gen 17 inch Macbook Pro with 1 GB Ram just for info purposes
I know these forums arn't official but does seem to be a great source of actulaly getting answers and workarounds. Thanks for any infomation

Just experienced a crash in a fully patched Rev. B vanilla. It seemed to involve Core Audio so I sent a copy to Brad and Apple. So all the bugs aren't ironed out even for fully supported computers (MacBook Pro in my case).

But I've been running it using anti-aliasing and full screen and haven't had a kernel panic yet. Fingers crossed this means that they have at least improved the stability and dealt with the really nasty lockups.

Update: It crashed again in pretty much the same way. The thread that crashed was an audio related one that had some mention of Core Audio in it. I seem to recall that these were the sort of crashes I was getting in earlier versions of Civ as well.

There's no build number in the Warlords Get Info, though there is in Civ4 vanilla (17139). I suspect some housekeeping was forgotten when it was released.

Both of the patch disk images include a 'buildnotes.rtf' file that appears to be an internal document. It gives a number which, in the case of the Civ4 patch, matches the above Get Info build number. So it looks as though Warlords may now be at build 17987. Its final build date was 23 January according to the buildnotes, which was just the day before it was published. Not much time for final QA :hmm:

For those of you who are wondering about performance improvements....

I suspect that there may be something real to it rather than being something in your imagination. I checked it out and it is now multithreaded in a way it didn't seem to be before. It is averaging about 140% and 8 threads on my machine. So those of you with dual core (or better) machines may notice some speed improvement. As I understand it, previously all the graphics were done on one core in one thread and some audio work was put in another thread leading to it peaking around 105%. My guess is that it is now distributing some of the heavy work across both cores and giving some sort of performance improvement as a result.

Heh. Well, I just purchased the Warlords XP for Mac ... and, judging from what I've seen in this thread, I'll hold off on patching it and vanilla Civ IV for the timebeing.

No big deal for me. It's been months since I last played Civ IV, so I need some time to reacquaint myself with it. For starters, I've already copied a vanilla WBSave (Europe) and altered the map's suffix so it'll run properly in Warlords. Now I need to generate a 24-civ Warlords map, go into it with TextEdit and, using information from the aforementioned map, modify the copied Europe map accordingly so there are more civilizations (properly placed, too!) to play with. Carthage, the Vikings, the Celts ... oh, yeah!

Gatekeeper

For those of you who are wondering about performance improvements....

I suspect that there may be something real to it rather than being something in your imagination. I checked it out and it is now multithreaded in a way it didn't seem to be before. It is averaging about 140% and 8 threads on my machine. So those of you with dual core (or better) machines may notice some speed improvement. As I understand it, previously all the graphics were done on one core in one thread and some audio work was put in another thread leading to it peaking around 105%. My guess is that it is now distributing some of the heavy work across both cores and giving some sort of performance improvement as a result.
That's interesting. On my Mac Pro I can't see any significant difference. It still uses less than 100% of one core most of the time.

Is that Warlords or vanilla, and at what stage in the game? My old Civ4 crash logs show that it always did have 7 or 8 threads running when it went down. Most of them were just watchers with little activity. I also have a few old Warlords crash logs. They never showed more than 5 threads running.

Warlords at 4000 BC, huge map, the game only uses about 70-80% total CPU. It does have eight threads now, but I suspect that just brings it up to the same thread architecture that Civ4 always had.

The Civ4 benchmark that was published hereabouts recently manages to push the CPU up to about 130% if I zoom in and out furiously, but it's still very laggy doing that, and worse if I don't disable city details in globe view. It shows 9 threads running.

So, while the thread structure does seem to have changed - more so on Warlords than on Civ4, I don't see any significant improvements in distribution of workload on my 4-core system as a result.

Both of the patch disk images include a 'buildnotes.rtf' file that appears to be an internal document. It gives a number which, in the case of the Civ4 patch, matches the above Get Info build number. So it looks as though Warlords may now be at build 17987. Its final build date was 23 January according to the buildnotes, which was just the day before it was published. Not much time for final QA :hmm:

I noticed this too. This does not seem to be a very typical patch release. Perhaps there was some sort of human error over at Aspyr in putting this out... :dunno:

JoAT

so does anyone know if anything changes besides the app? the installer (of course) doesn't know that warlords is installed on another volume and I'm not sure if I need to copy everything for both games back over again twice just to get this updated.

Check the modified dates on the files and folders. Warlords had lots of updates throughout the game data files as well as the app itself. Not surprising really, as the game was extensively revised in version 2.08.

and to answer my own question - just replacing the app does NOT work. about this build will list

civ version 200
save version 200
build version 2.0.8.0

with just the app replaced but:

civ version 208
save version 200
build version 2.0.8.0

with moving over the whole folder - this is warlords obviously

thanks alanh - quick response. also, I plan to download and try the WOTM so I'll report any findings I have.

Installed the patch to Vanilla. Played for a little more than an hour, full screen mode. No crashes or other problems yet on 1st generation MBP.

Same experience for me, but in Single Player. No probs so far.

Wow, noticed that there is not speech for tech, as well as the no sound bug (except for ambient sounds, as another person pointed out).

However, it is faster...

Guys, please post your issues at http://support.aspyr.com/ if you haven't done so already so Aspyr can figure out what's going on and get a patch out quickly.

Is that Warlords or vanilla, and at what stage in the game?

This was vanilla at the early stage (around 0AD) of the 18Civ Earth Scenario.

Maybe my memory is faulty about how hard it went on my machine previously because I hadn't played much since October - but I didn't remember it getting much above 105% except with the release version that maxed out both cores because of a bug.

I've also used memory meters to look at how the load is distributed. It is splitting evenly between the cores with about 75% total on each core with most of this being Civ IV. That looks like it is threading it more or less optimally. It is also playing nice when I put it into the background as it has dropped right down while I type this post.

Do others have better memory on this front? I'm running a 1st generation MacBook Pro (Core Duo 2.0GHz) for reference.

now that I've had a minute to actually look, I too am having the interface sounds issue. tried clean installing from the ground up and patching everything - still MIA in menus. gonna play a bit more and see what happens.

Why does your crash report say version 2.00? Are you sure the patch installed properly?

JoAT

How can I make sure it's installed correctly? I run the patch installer, agree with the license, and click Upgrade and it tells me the upgrade is finished.

I checked the Get Info on the Warlords executable file and it does indeed say version 2.00, modified today at (a few minutes ago, when I actually patched it) so something did happen even if the version number has not changed.

What does your Get Info say, did it update the version number?

Thanks,
Narmox.

well now everything is well and truly borked:

now I get games loading up like this:

Heh. Well, I just purchased the Warlords XP for Mac ... and, judging from what I've seen in this thread, I'll hold off on patching it and vanilla Civ IV for the timebeing.

No big deal for me. It's been months since I last played Civ IV, so I need some time to reacquaint myself with it. For starters, I've already copied a vanilla WBSave (Europe) and altered the map's suffix so it'll run properly in Warlords. Now I need to generate a 24-civ Warlords map, go into it with TextEdit and, using information from the aforementioned map, modify the copied Europe map accordingly so there are more civilizations (properly placed, too!) to play with. Carthage, the Vikings, the Celts ... oh, yeah!

Gatekeeper

Dont forget to post that map here....hehehehhe ;)

Hi,

my system: iMac G5 (1st Generation with GeForce 5200)

After applying the patch for 1.61 Rev. B the game has problems:
- with the sound, I can only hear the background music, no city or unit specific sounds
- severe graphics errors escpecially with the map in the lower right corner of the screen

Before the patch, none of these problems occured.

Well, so much about software testing at Aspyr ;-)

What does your Get Info say, did it update the version number?

Thanks,
Narmox.

As stated by others above. The version number remains at 2.00 in Get Info, though Aspyr claim it's version 1.00 rev A. I think they are as confused as we are :confused:

If you run the game and get to the initial menu, then click 'Advanced' and 'About this Build' you should see:

Civ Version: 208
Save Version: 200
Build Version: 2.0.8.0
Build Date: Jan 9 2007 16:01:50
Build: FINAL RELEASE
Mod Name: Mods\HOF-Mac-2.00.002\

Yes, OK, I admit it. The last line is an unashamed plug for the Mac HOF Mod :) You'll see 'None' in this line if you have no mod loaded.

Hi,

and now I really have a problem.

I was so naive to simply apply the patch without making a copy of the existing installation directory.

Now I would like to reinstall Civ IV and apply the old patch revision A, which has worked perfectly well for me. But: the official websites only the list the rev B patch, the older patch is not available anymore.

Does anybody know a place that still has the patch file? Even here on Civfanatics the link in the download section refers to macgamefiles, where there is only the new rev B patch.

When I emailed Aspyr with my issues I asked them to re-post the old patches to tide us over until they figure out what's going on...

As far as I can tell they replaced the rev A patch with rev B. The number of downloads looks like it's the total for rev A and rev B.

Hi Guys,

thanks for your replies and the information. For the future I will be more conservative with the handling of Aspyr patches ;)

I'd love to have OSX 10.5 with time machine right now so I that I could go back with my installation to yesterday

I am a software engineer myself and I know how many things can go wrong during an application shipment, but this ....

Anyway, I have opened a ticket at Aspyr and I am looking forward to their response :)

Greetings from Berlin

Is there anyone with Mac Warlords 2.08 who hasn't read the WOTM 5 spoilers, and would like to play the game? It has three weeks to run, and I can put together a set of saves if required.

I did get a response to the above post, so I've built and uploaded Mac versions of the WOTM 05 start files. To play them you will need to install Mac HoF Mod 200.002.

You can find the WOTM 05 "Saves Available" thread here which gives a description of the game, and from there you can get to the Game Release page where you can download the start file for the level of difficulty you want.

Please give it a shot. It's a Prince level game this time around, on a Fantasy Realm map which should stretch your graphics a bit. And please let me know if you have any problems with the saves or with the Mod.

"No big deal for me. It's been months since I last played Civ IV, so I need some time to reacquaint myself with it. For starters, I've already copied a vanilla WBSave (Europe) and altered the map's suffix so it'll run properly in Warlords. Now I need to generate a 24-civ Warlords map, go into it with TextEdit and, using information from the aforementioned map, modify the copied Europe map accordingly so there are more civilizations (properly placed, too!) to play with. Carthage, the Vikings, the Celts ... oh, yeah!"
-Gatekeeper[/QUOTE]


I'd love an Earth map! Usually, civ comes with at least some earth map made my someone, but I don't see anything with Warlords. So do you think you could share that 24-civ world map when you've modded it for Warlords? :p

Does anybody know a place that still has the patch file? Even here on Civfanatics the link in the download section refers to macgamefiles, where there is only the new rev B patch.

You have a PM

Overall the patch seems to be much better than previous. The one thing that is good is that this patch adds the functionally to play the old Vanilla custom maps such as Earth18Civs or Earth etc that actually came with the Vanilla install without having to change the file type or restart back into vanilla they now actually appear under the play scenario section with '(Civ 4)' after there name to denote its a Vanilla map :D. The only thing that i seemingly have to boot into vanilla for is the 3 original Scenarios that were actually mods ie the American Revolution, Greek World and Desert War. (I haven't downloaded any mods/scenarios that did not come on the original disks so I don't know about them).
Overall I am happy with the patch. I expect a second one will accually address some of the new issues.

Oh just remember something else tho. I used to have a issue where i was playing and all of a sudden my speakers make a loud pop sound and then i would have no sound at all. All i have to do is hit the F5 key to turn the sound up and its back. This only happens in the game and at no other time. This seem to be better but not completely gone in this patch anyone else experiance that issue (Again this is on a MBP)? this is no big issue at does not affect my game or sound once it comes back so if no one has an answer no biggy. Thanks in advance.

Hyper Nova, if you load one of those vanilla civ maps (like the 18civ earht) into Warlords, I assume it plays with Warlords features?

I renamed the 18civ earth and played it in warlords. All of the civs have their warlords attributes, and it plays just like any other warlords game. Except it only has vanilla civs.

Hyper Nova, if you load one of those vanilla civ maps (like the 18civ earht) into Warlords, I assume it plays with Warlords features?

TBH i didnt try them out to that extent they worked and had the starting settings right eg if you played as English you start in England if you're French you start in france etc but i dont know about the actual features like UU and costs etc. I Know i could only choose Elizabeth as the English but that is just the settings of the map i think.

I don't think at that point it matters the fact they work is what I like. BTW i never renamed the files so i think they work now just as if you did so probally have the warlords features

just after posting earlier, I clicked on Scenarios (in warlords, no vanilla) and saw the scenarios from vanilla including the 18civ earht one. I'm playing it now... didn't let me set rules, so there's tons of barbarians, ugh. well, back to my game... :)

I don't know whether its the patch or whether i set some odd setting but i notice itunes keeps opening up when playing i know it happens because i know i start up with a fresh machine and then when i quit it is open, it even made my game to crash to the desktop (1st tiem since patch) when for some reason it was trying to access the music store and the server timed out.

Any one know if i set something thats causing it to open? or is it do do with the patch?

Rev. B for Civ4 is running very well on my C2D iMac, X1600 ATI card. Still on the look for any issues.

I got the problem with the sound in Warlords.

No sound when i promote units, or when i loss a unit. Also no sound when I navigate the globe first. (i get the movement bonus)

iMac G5 (2Ghz, 2GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9600 128MB)

Yep, it crashes for me too on a MacBook (Core Duo, 1GB, Mac OS X 10.4.8, 2GHz). Both patches for Civ4 and Warlords Rev crash my system

I've moved this post from the old Get The Patch thread, which was for Civ4 Rev A.
I've closed the old thread to avoid further confusion.

AlanH

I haven't had any real issues with the Warlords patch to 2.08. The sound all works, I can see Mehmed with my Nvidia card, and the video glitch where you could see into the fog when you are next to where the map wraps is fixed. This is on a 24" iMac. I haven't run vanilla any.

I am seeing the "Albert Einstein born in B (G)". This has changed with this patch. Before all of the city names were unique, so it would just say the city. But people would use an exploit where they would change the name of their first city to the names that other civs used. If it didn't allow a name then you knew that civ was playing. So now you can have the same city name for different civs, so the born in comment is supposed to have the city name and civ name. This might be fixable in an XML file, as it seems to me that it would be happening at that level.

Having the following issues with Civ4 (vanilla) RevB:

* No sounds at all at any time except ambient sounds.
* When playing in GameSpy as a guest, constantly get dialog that a player is trying to connect, and I need to open ports, even though I am not host and opened and forwarded all ports (is this even necessary?).
* To connect to GameSpy lobby, I had to create account within Civ4.

Does my account name include the -tk that they placed at the end of my desired username? I'm still having trouble connecting... I've created an account from within the game, but all I'm getting is hesitation at the clouds when I hit login.

I am seeing the "Albert Einstein born in B (G)". This has changed with this patch. Before all of the city names were unique, so it would just say the city. But people would use an exploit where they would change the name of their first city to the names that other civs used. If it didn't allow a name then you knew that civ was playing. So now you can have the same city name for different civs, so the born in comment is supposed to have the city name and civ name. This might be fixable in an XML file, as it seems to me that it would be happening at that level.
I've checked for code outside of the C++ core software that could output this message, and it looks as though the <City> (<Civ>) format is provided from within the C++ code, and simply displayed by the Python code. So it's not possible to fix this without recompiling the software. Sorry :(

Posted by Gatekeeper:

No big deal for me. It's been months since I last played Civ IV, so I need some time to reacquaint myself with it. For starters, I've already copied a vanilla WBSave (Europe) and altered the map's suffix so it'll run properly in Warlords. Now I need to generate a 24-civ Warlords map, go into it with TextEdit and, using information from the aforementioned map, modify the copied Europe map accordingly so there are more civilizations (properly placed, too!) to play with. Carthage, the Vikings, the Celts ... oh, yeah!

Posted by iamliberal:

I'd love an Earth map! Usually, civ comes with at least some earth map made my someone, but I don't see anything with Warlords. So do you think you could share that 24-civ world map when you've modded it for Warlords? :p

I'll gladly share the finished map. I can't promise a timeline, though, as I've got a lot of things going on IRL, but when the map is finished, I'll post it here for others to download (which is another thing I need to refresh myself on how to do).

This is the process I'm undertaking to produce a 24-civ Warlords map:

1. I'll take one of my custom 18-civ Earth maps from vanilla Civ IV and rename the suffix so it will open up in Warlords.

2. I'll generate a random 24-civ Warlords map.

3. Closing out of the game, I'll launch TextEdit and open up the maps and, from there, do some XML editing.

4. The XML editing should mainly be limited to copying nation data from the random 24-civ Warlords map and putting it into the 18-civ Warlords map (which was formerly a vanilla Civ IV map), and making sure everything lines up (i.e. if the Celts are Team 21, then their unique traits info need to be #21 as well, since, from what I can tell, Civ IV Vanilla/Warlords reads XML information in a sequential manner).

5. Test the completed map in an actual game.

6. Fix bugs, if any.

7. Post said map for download.

Gatekeeper

hi all,

i have already read in this forum about some problems with the sounds in warlords after installing the new patch. but no one has an answer, or i just not see any.
so at all, i have the same problem. sound doesn´t work during fights, or when i click on buttons or even when i get a new technology, also the "persons " (doesn´t know the right word in english, sry) don´t talk to me when activating them. The hole interactive sound doesn´t work well.
These things and problems are in my opinion the same like the soundbugs at the first version from civ IV.
But some good things: its much more faster to play, and not so much system freezings. But at all without sounds not really fun to play.

Could someone pl answer this message. My question: is the sound problem my fault, or the games one? And what can i do to fix it. Or will a new patch come out soon?.

Maybe my technical system information will help too:
Dual G5 1,8 (no intel!), 3GB Ram Memory, ATI Radeon 9800 XT 256MB, OSX 10.4.8.

I hope for some answer!

My observations after patching warlords:
- Only ambient sounds
- The city indication bars for growth and production are sometimes empty (no orange bars) even when the city is growing or production is in progress
- Occasionally (parts of) the screen gets colored (screenshot). Moving to another part of the map and returning helps to get rid off it.146672
- Loading the wotm 5 saves looks like this 146673 The upper half of the base terrain is black. I noticed as well that the loading process took much longer than usaul for these files.

Although my machine is at the lower limits of the the spec (1,8 GHz G5, FX 5200) I have never experienced such problems (neither CivIV nor Warlords).

My observations after patching warlords:
- Only ambient sounds
I haven't played very far into a game, but so far, I hear music, city noises, Mr Spock reporting the tech advance text, and animal attack noises. Is this more than you get?

- Loading the wotm 5 saves looks like this 146673 The upper half of the base terrain is black. I noticed as well that the loading process took much longer than usaul for these files.
This has been reported by some PC players as well. It seems it is particularly prevalent on Fantasy Realm maps, due to the N-S wrapping, and I used to see it before the latest Patches on my Mac Pro + Nvidia 7300. I don't see it now.

I haven't played very far into a game, but so far, I hear music, city noises, Mr Spock reporting the tech advance text, and animal attack noises. Is this more than you get?

I hear music, windhowling, the drums during city attack but not the individual unit sounds during attack, no animal spounds. Sometimes I hear the neigh of a knight's horse.

I've experienced no problems at all since patching, but I'll be playing at greater length tomorrow, so I'll keep a close ear on the sounds and report back.

It seems like the sound issues only affect PPC macs...

As I've bet bitten by the civ-bug all week, I've played lots of civ warlords :)

I have imac core 2 duo 24" imac, upgraded/maxed video card, and I'm pretty sure all audios work perfectly. Unfortunately, game is crashing more than ever. Usually this is to the desktop and I just restart. Last night for the first time ever for my last 2 mac computers, the game even crashed my operating system, the whold thing! command + option +escape could not even force quit the program, I had to turn off the computer.

Also, once in awhile things like the great wall and city walls go on the fritz. Like they flash black reall fast (like strobe light effect), screen sort of flickers. Restarting fixes problem, and sometimes loading enough screens like advisors will fix this, or going to the next turn.

I have all video settings on maximum.

I experienced my first crash (to desktop) with the new patch today with my MBP. I have been using it since it came out on Jan 24. I have not experienced any major sound or graphics glitches. The crash seems audio-related. I opened a ticket with Aspyr. I posted my crash log on the Audio problems thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5037772&postcount=57).

Anyone else noticing strange graphical glitches? They're mostly flashes where parts of the screen blank in and out...

Anyone else noticing strange graphical glitches? They're mostly flashes where parts of the screen blank in and out...

Yes, my last post was about it, I was calling it 'on the fritz' but your description is better :D

Both of the patch disk images include a 'buildnotes.rtf' file that appears to be an internal document. It gives a number which, in the case of the Civ4 patch, matches the above Get Info build number. So it looks as though Warlords may now be at build 17987. Its final build date was 23 January according to the buildnotes, which was just the day before it was published. Not much time for final QA :hmm:


These patches must have been done w/ internal testers only. ;)

These patches must have been done w/ internal testers only. ;)

Maybe they decided that their external testers didn't do them any favours for the initial releases :p

Anybody hear anything worthwhile from Aspyr yet? All I got was an email saying unfortunately some of your problems stem from the fact that you don't meet the minimum requiremts (even they do not) and copied and pasted this from the download page: (painful caps removed)


***Downloading and applying this patch may result in some sound related issues. We are currently investigating this issue for a solution. Please continue to check support.aspyr.com for any updated information. Thank you for your patience and sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.***

So basically Aspyr is now cutting off the computers that were below minimum specs, even if they could play the game fine? Wow. Just.. wow..

I will definitely have to create an account on their support site now, and report this bug AND my disappointment at their stance...

My (Vanilla) CivIV now has the following About information:

Civ Version: 161
Save Version: 103
Build Version: 1.6.1.1841 (45604)
Build Date: Jan 4 2007 17:21:36
Build: FINAL RELEASE
Mod Name: None (sorry AlanH)

Compared to Rev A, I'm seeing (hearing) more sound issues. Mr. Nimoy is conspicuously absent. Spreading religion no longer makes any sound, neither the act nor its reflection in the message area. Fighting or bombarding no longer has sound.

Graphics wise, now a lot of characters on my map seem to be backlit, with the side facing the camera cast in shadow.

Powerbook G4 1.67 (next-to-last model), Chipset Model: ATY,RV360M11; VRAM (Total): 128 MB; Vendor ATI; Device ID: 0x4e50; Revision ID: 0x0000; ROM Revision: 113-xxxxx-160. 1280 x 854, full screen. Built-in Sound Card: Texas Instruments TAS3004; Graphics Level Low, Render Quality Level Medium, Globe Quality Low

So is this patch worthwhile? Seems an awful lot of new problems, when I've been chugging along okay... Especially since I'm running a MBP, and those seem especially distressed, I'm leery of even bothering to try an upgrade.

Did about five hours today, with no noticeable alteration in speed, performance or sound (except that some of my units did disappear in one battle, only to reappear when they'd won). Spock still speaks, all sound FX present.

But my Mac is a long way above minimum specs, so perhaps not the ideal test bed.

Anyone else noticing strange graphical glitches? They're mostly flashes where parts of the screen blank in and out...

I had this weird bug where the screen got really really bright to the point of where it was almost all white, and then it got really dark. Had to do a hard restart. This was in warlords.

Aspyr responded to my ticket. They pointed me to the documents which show audio problems are a known bug. As first posted by Cougar (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5041469#post5041469), they wrote:

Thank you for contacting us. We are aware of some audio problems with the new Civilization 4 patch, as stated on the patch support site.

DOWNLOADING AND APPLYING THIS PATCH MAY RESULT IN SOME SOUND RELATED ISSUES. WE ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING THIS ISSUE FOR A SOLUTION. PLEASE CONTINUE TO CHECK OUR WEBSITE FOR ANY UPDATED INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE THIS MAY CAUSE.


Have a nice day,
Aspyr Tech Support

Hey folks,

I'm not sure if anyone else has already done so, but FYI, I just opened a ticket about the missing City/Civ event text, à la Warlords 2.08 patch.

This is the problem where Great People announcements are incomplete. To use Welnic's example "Albert Einstein born in B (G)."

I've also noticed this when some cities are over taken.

Peace,
-P

We've discussed that problem but not sure if anyone submitted a ticket. Thanx for doing that, hope we get a new patch soon it's irritating when you can't see what city or even which civ just got a great person!

First CTD last night. Seemed to be caused by saving (luckily, the save went through!). Nimoy disappeared again shortly beforehand, so I suspect a connection.

Are a lot of these bugs showing up on PPC machines, Intel machines or both? I have yet to patch vCiv IV or wCiv IV, and I'm leery of doing so ...

Gatekeeper

Oh well, having played several dozen turns, I'm beginning to experience the graphics problems experienced by others. Namely, the popular black ice and the fuzzy-colored flashes.

Here's a new one: these Musket units had available promotions, but instead of the bluish aura, I got these rotating green squares.

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(Note the workers in the upper right are squatting with good reason ;) )

Weird,
-P

It would be nice if the Warlords DVD would also run the Civ4 app. It would be a friendlier set-up for those playing community PBEM games and such on the different apps.

Once is patch is installed, is there a way to uninstall it? I'm running vanillaCIV patched to 1.61, and I'm not sure I want to do the Rev. B.

Once is patch is installed, is there a way to uninstall it? I'm running vanillaCIV patched to 1.61, and I'm not sure I want to do the Rev. B.

At the very worst (and most likely), you'll have to reinstall from the original disk, then patch to 1.61.

Reinstall Civ4 and then apply patch A. I believe patch A is still available if you didn't keep it. Try a search at 3D Downloads (http://www.3ddownloads.com/). If you can't track it down, drop me a PM.

:hmm: I'm confused. Is RevA different from patch 1.61?

There have been three release states of Civ4:

1. The original DVD version.

2. The Rev A. patch released in July last year.

3. The Rev B. patch that has just been released.

I assume you have Civ4 on a DVD. That will either be the unpatched original release, or, if you bought it recently, it may possibly include the Rev A Patch. You can tell by mounting the DVD, selecting the Civ4 application icon, and selecting Get Info in the Finder's File menu. Its version information will include 'Rev A' if it has already been updated.

If you already have Rev A on your DVD then you only need to re-install that. If it doesn't say it's Rev A then you should update it using the Rev A patch.

Thanks Alan. I indeed have a DVD, purchased a in December.

It just says Version 1.61 (v9565) under info.

So I'll be installing the RevA soon. Thanks again!

Thanks Alan. I indeed have a DVD, purchased a in December.

It just says Version 1.61 (v9565) under info.

So I'll be installing the RevA soon. Thanks again!

I'm pretty sure that v9565 is the Rev. A patch. Isn't it?

JoAT

Yes. See This discussion

Well, I went ahead and did the RevB install, and I can't even load the game now. Others have posted about the same issues with the same MacBook I have, so I won't go into details. Needless to say, I'll be reinstalling from the DVD now.

If anyone is running OK on a MacBook, you'll likely have problems if you install the RevB patch.

Once is patch is installed, is there a way to uninstall it? I'm running vanillaCIV patched to 1.61, and I'm not sure I want to do the Rev. B.

Well, I went ahead and did the RevB install, and I can't even load the game now.

Sounds like you were right in the first place. Hence all the discussion about Rev A.

:D

Yeah, it was not a little annoying to install cIV all over again.. along with the HOF mod... (thanks again, Alan :))

One thing that's different now, and I don't know if anyone has any advice about this:
Originally, after the first time I installed the game when I bought it, I would get a pop-up that warned that "Your movies are not installed correctly". I didn't really care, as I'm more interested in the effects of the Spiral Minaret than the graphic. It also skipped the intro movies, which was really nice, as I didn't need to click 5 times before reaching the Main Menu.

But after I reinstalled, I no longer get the warning - but I DO have to suffer through and click through those stupid flash screens of the companies that had something to do with the cIV release.

Is there any way to disable those? It used to be so smooth - I'd click on the cIV icon in the dock, and the first screen that would come up was the Main Menu! I'd love to get back to that level of user-friendliness.

Open ~/Documents/Civilization IV/CivilzationIV.ini in TextEdit.

Change it so that the following entry reads:

; Set to 1 for no intro movie
NoIntroMovie = 1

Save the file and relaunch Civ4. No intro movies.

This is rediculous. It's been almost a month, and still no patch to fix the sound issues.

I'd *love* to update Civ IV Vanilla and Warlords to their latest versions. Unfortunately, I'm *still* waiting for a patch to fix the patch. Heh. I guess it's a good thing the Civ series of games occupies a smaller niche in my life now than it did prior to Civ IV coming out for the Macintosh.

Oh, Civ II, how I miss you (sometimes).

Gatekeeper

I am not at all happy with the Warlords patch.
No sound effects. Black units and improvements, particularly after a bit of worldbuilding. Several bugs were fixed OK (crashes on loading, resources and railroads) but it´s almost become a bore seeing silent battles between black units. Not a thing I like to admit having played Civ on the Amiga and ever since.
10.2.8. iMac 2 GHz G5. 1 gig of RAM. Radeon 9600

I installed the Rev B patch on my vanilla copy of Civ4 on my Powerbook G4 1.33GHz. There were some bugs with the map, like sections appearing greenish when viewd from a certain point, and polygons projecting from cities into the camera. The sound was gone too. But I think I noticed a modest performance boost, does anyone else report the same on that?

Hi all,

I'm a very long time civ mac user (from the 1st version), and Civ4 for mac is great too.... BUT

- release version civ4 was totally buggy (as we can all read here), did they only test it on 1 machine or what??

- then they start (late!) patching, but it's really annoying how these patches fix 1 thing, and damage another. Civ4 plays rather well now, but then I cldnt resist to get the Warlords exp. Aargh. Again no working version from the box.

Tried the Warlords patch: no battle sounds, without the patch sounds are OK, but the rendering goes wrong: black ice and farms and so on. Bah. I'm just registering to let Aspyr know that this really sux.

Im using powerpc G5, dual 2.5,Tiger, so that can't be it, can it...

bye all, sorry to bother u all with my frustrations...
play on...