-----------SHORT ON PLAYERS--------------
please join us.

following the previous SG, GAM1 - Large 100k pangea on MONARCH (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=196688)
we decided to up the stakes.

this time around we are trying for another 100K win, BUT....
it will be Archipelago.
while we are at Always War
and NOT playing any civ that is: A-Scientific or B- Religious

so i think we can sum this up as:
:eek: 100K, 'Pelgo, AW, or Cultured Warriors

voted as: LARGE 'pelgo. 70%. Vikings. AW. 100K.

ROSTER
myself (Soul_warrior)
glenmetz
mr_2_you
mad viking

* Blaze Injun - dropped out. open for guest turns.
* eldar - honorable lurker. waiting to sharpen the ol' axe :viking:
* highly honored lurker :cool: choxorn!!!!
places reserved to vets of GAM1.
still room left.

forgot to mention - this is [c3c] 1.22

level of play: Monarch? the variants pushes this up.
world: standard or large? im for large, for the extra oummph!
world type: 'Pelgo 70% (lots of land?) DBDiscussed
climate: random?
AI: Max number. normal aggression (so they will actually build something instead of warring between them)
Barbs: NOT raging. see above for reasoning. maybe sedentary?


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team votes so far:
Civ: - top choice so far: VIKINGS RULE!!!
English (1)
Carthage (2)
Rome (3)
Viking (4)
Dutch (2)

landmass
continents 1
pelgo 4

My Thoughts:
Difficulty-Either Monarch or Emporer. Perhaps the rest of the team has some opinions. Moving to a Arch' and AW will make this much harder then the previous game.
World-Large
Climate/Terrain-Random
AI-Agreed
Barbs-Sedentary is probably a good idea

We will need to rush to Writing/MM ASAP to build Galleys. No researching of either Monarch or Republic and switch to Feud ASAP.

I'm thinking the following for our tribe:
England-Seafaring would be nice for the extra movement, and they start with Alpha. Man-O-War is a blah UU.
Carthage-Seafaring/Industrious and starts with Alpha. UU can spark an early GA, probably my 1st choice
Rome-Starts with Alpha and is Comm and Militaristic. Cheaper units, and Legionaires.

Anyone else, chime right in here.

civs we can play:
English (Sea+Com) killer UU.
Frogs (Ind+Com) Uber-Muskets!!!!
Maya (Ind+Agr) ultra early UU.
Dutch (Sea+Agr) super pike! on feudalism.
Vikings (Mil+Sea) needs no comments
Iroquis (Com+Agr) early knights
Chinks (Mil+Ind) beefed up knights
Aztecs (Mil+Agr)
Carthage (Sea+Ind)
Rome (Com+Mil) - supa-grunt! semper fi!

my votes are for: Rome. Vikings. Dutch.

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land: maybe do this a Continent game?

Madv for vikings... or maybe Spain... or Byz...
*this isn't not a sign-up*

Hey,

Here are my thoughts. :)

level of play: Monarch
world: Large
world type: 'Pelgo 70% (lots of land?) DBDiscussed Sounds Good
climate: cold or random
AI: Max number. normal aggression
Barbs: Sedentary


Nations. Carthage, Vikings or Rome


Blaze Injun

Highly respected lurker, choxorn is here! :cool:
PS:
Vikings!!!!!!!!!!!!

i was thinking of starting SG with the same criteria, except continents.

any chance you consider continents instead of islands?

Wow, Always War and 100k? Whew. Doesn't Feudalism (which I've read is good for 100k) have War Weariness?

Dutch for Agri --> more pop rushing?

mr 2 you, why don't you join us????

I don't think WW is a problem in Feudalism, I could be wrong though.

mr 2 you, why don't you join us????


i'm flattered. if you guys will have me, then i'd be happy to play.

i'd also like to play the vikings..... but any chance we can go from archipelago to continents? (i hate island hopping)

Feudalism has same WW as Republic- it might be a problem in AW. It was a minor annoyance to me on a game as the Celts on the Huge Earth Map on Chieftain, where I fought many wars, but I didn't use a variant. In my Sig, there is a link to a game called "My (actually Pequinino's, I'm just copying the title) first SG (for Newbies)", on Regent, where we fought for Domination in the later stages of the game, and we were using Republic, and WW became a problem rather than just an annoyance. So, judging from these games, I would say that AW using any government with WW on Emperor or above would create a Collossal WW problem.
Just my 2 cents.

I'll lurk.

My thoughts: AW will make it tougher and arch will make harbors important if you pop rush, so you can get luxes. Arch will probably make the AW piece of it easier, since it's much easier to avoid contacts. Arch map means that if you pop rush, the pyramids are less useful, too.

This will be interesting...

The variant of 100K sort of implies you don't win by conquest, so either you remove the conquest VC, or you need to modify your AW to allow for a relatively peaceful ending where you don't wipe out the last civ.

Also, since war weariness goes up every turn you stay in unfriendly lands, the Vikings, with the berserkers ability to take cities in one turn from the sea, are well suited to reducing weariness.

mr_2_you, welcome to the love boat!

continents - we can do that. once we have a full roster, we can vote.
better still, people, lets vote:
pelgo or continents? mid size water on both?

i will edit post 1 for the results.

agreed on feud being VERY problematic.

we should probably stick to monarchy :king:

'pelgo does indeed make this easier, so we can, if decided go for continents.

2 more spots open!
come on lurkers, you know you want to :D

I say we stick with an Archie, that was the plan from the previous SG.

Ahh, my favorite government, Monarchy. All hail King Soul Warrior of the Vikings?????

thinking about it more, and considering feud is not ideal (eg - WW will hit. hard)
im now leaning for :viking:

i will run a test game tomorrow ('pelgo) and see what happens.

Hey, I posted a double negative. :p That WAS a sign-up post.

Hey,

Pelgo is my vote. Like glenmetz said "that was the plan from the previous SG."

70% water. Monarch.


Blaze Injun

I vote for monarch and 70-60% 'pelago

if we're always at war, are we going to wipe out the other civs? don't we have to leave at least one in the game so we can get our 100k culture points? do we have to be merciful?

Agreed. Go for Pelgo.
And Yes, Mr 2 You, you will have to be merciful. You have to not win by Domination or Conquest (Or Diplo or SS :lol: :p :rolleyes:).

it occurs to me that AW and 100K is really, really tough.

A) Feudalism has war weariness, so poprushing is bad.
B) Republic has war weariness, so you can't get the reduced corruption and gold bonus
C) You may have to research to communism!! at least rails and electricity can give you lots of food ;)

100K, on a large map, with no bonuses for any culture buildings!!

This should be challenging. See all of tall walking big stick carrying bad asses from my last succession game decided we needed to up the ante. And thats how you arrive at what we are going for here.

I do think we need to make a plan on what government to go with. I think we go with Monarcy, just because we can switch out early and WW can be cut down a bit with MPs. All of our remote towns will basically turn into specialist farms will working on building the cheapie cultural improvements (temples, libraries).

recent arrival - the Mad Viking....
and that makes 5.

we can start this.

over whelming vote for large 'pelgo.
and vikings.

is that what we will be playing?
last call for different strokes!

i will roll some starts in the morning, to allow votes to come in.

path to glory?

* monarchy (NO WW is grand) > communism.
* will be merciful!

* as we will keep on researching later on, do we want to try for a GLib?

remember - this is AW.

start strategy:
* get a first ring or so done (to enable us to have a fighting chance)
* start alternating culture-military.
* keep first ring or so on MILITARY DUTY.
we cannot have enough troops.

that means the first 40+ turns will not have a single culture point built.

comments?

I could join to make 6 if it were OK with you guys.

Hey,

recent arrival - the Mad Viking....
and that makes 5.

we can start this.

over whelming vote for large 'pelgo.
and vikings.

is that what we will be playing?
last call for different strokes!

i will roll some starts in the morning, to allow votes to come in.

path to glory?

* monarchy (NO WW is grand) > communism.
* will be merciful!

Never played commie before.

* as we will keep on researching later on, do we want to try for a GLib?

Yes go for the GLib.

remember - this is AW.

start strategy:
* get a first ring or so done (to enable us to have a fighting chance)
* start alternating culture-military.
* keep first ring or so on MILITARY DUTY.
we cannot have enough troops.

that means the first 40+ turns will not have a single culture point built
comments?

Looks Good to me.

ROSTER
myself (Soul_warrior)
glenmetz
Blaze Injun
Welcome to the team mr_2_you and Madviking


Blaze Injun

D'Art. welcome on board.
this makes 6.
roster full.

will start when im sober.

will start when im sober.
Isn't that all the time? :crazyeye::p

usually yes.
not now.

i need to get to bed.

good night!!!

Hey,

D'Artagnan59 welcome to the roster.


Blaze Injun

Will be watching with interest.

Can't wait to see what Soul has up his sleeve. :cool:

Will be watching with interest.

Can't wait to see what Soul has up his sleeve. :cool:
unroll left sleeve, unroll right, see? nothing up there except:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_start_worldsetting2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_start_worldsetting1.jpg
start1 - 2 hills. 2 BG. freshwater? FURS!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_start_1.jpg
start2 - 2BG. 2 woods. is that jungle away?
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_start_2.jpg
start3 - rivers all over. 3BG. 2 hills.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_start_430.jpg
those were the first 3 i rolled. hope i keep that lucky streak going.

start 3 is my favorite (lots of commerce)
start 1 aint too shabby either :smug:

your votes?

ROSTER

myself (Soul_warrior) - i will start 20.
glenmetz - up next (10 turns)
Blaze Injun - on deck
mr_2_you
mad viking
D'art.

science path?
id like to run for BW first.
then get MASONRY for a pyramids prebuild (for GLib)
then IRON. (unless we are alone)
and a crawl up to writing > MM > LIT.

we can do without IRON, as our Zerks are glorified LBs.
but id still like that.

Hey,

I say #1 looks good. No harm having a Lux close & early.

#3 would also work in a pinch. So I quess I vote in order... #1, #3, then #2.

science path?
id like to run for BW first.
then get MASONRY for a pyramids prebuild (for GLib)
then IRON. (unless we are alone)
and a crawl up to writing > MM > LIT.

This doesn't sound bad either. But of course the game may dictate a change.

Also soul what is the turn times. You know 24 to get 48 to GPS. Or like with GAM-1 when we were doing 1 turn a day? You know me. I like to keep things rollin and running. :run: :lol:

Blaze Injun

Since there's a river in 3, they're might an AI on our island, but 1 had lots of tundra, start 2 has jungle... thorny, rather thorny...
2, 3, 1 in that order

Here's my penny's worth:

Start #1 has tundra up north. Heck, the entire starting position is way up north.
Start #2 is not that good. I mean, yeah, it may have grasslands, but not having a river really hurts the economy.
Start #3 is my choice. It may not have many food resources, but it seems much better than the others ones.

Start 3.
PS
Why does it say Monarch in first screenie? Was't this emperor?

Just noticed start 3 is on a BG

Start 3.

Move Worker SW, if good, settle 1SW. If not that really good, settle 1NW.

Second: Start 1.

Luxes are nice, but NE of it, there is TUNDRA TUNDRA TUNDRA!

Start 2:

Looks like choppable galore.

Start 3 is the choice here.

start 3 coming right up.

1- moved off BG onto grass tile NE.
2- build TRONDHEIM. start a warrior. worker mines BG. study BW.
we have wines uberlly close :cheers:
we also have 4 BGs in the 8!!!
6- warrior > warrior. fortify.
7- worker mine done > road tile.
10- road done. move to another BG.
11- warrior > rax. we expand. its 3 wines. road the BG.
14- road is done. mine tile.
16- rax > spear. lower sci, earning money now.
19- BW is in. Masonry @ 100% in 18, losing some cash.
20- mine is done. move to next BG.

spear will be done next turn.

no contacts yet.

as the spear comes online, maybe a little bit of exploration?
maybe even a settler soon? 2 more spears should be ok for cover.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_455.jpg

Uh, just a question, but how did you start building a spear before you got BW? :hmm:

Uh, just a question, but how did you start building a spear before you got BW? :hmm:
They had said earlier that they would research Bronze Working first. :)

This is what I mean:

16- rax > spear. lower sci, earning money now.
19- BW is in. Masonry @ 100% in 18, losing some cash.

Most likely he started something else as a placeholder, switched to a spear when he got the tech, and assumed we'd be able to figure that out.

Most likely he started something else as a placeholder, switched to a spear when he got the tech, and assumed we'd be able to figure that out.
yeah.
what granny said.
:wavey:

possibly even a botched up log.

started on an archer, as a precaution, should we encounter someone.
as we did not, spears are better for now, so i switched.

Soul_warrior - just got :spear:
glenmetz - UP. getting :stoner:
Blaze Injun - on deck.
mr_2_you
mad viking
D'art.

forgot to mention this earlier:

normal SG ettiquette?
24 got it, 48 hours to play.
if you need a delay-skip, please let us know.

if you think what you are about to do is a cheat-exploit, either discuss with team or just say no.

Ohh, and have fun!

I also agree, 3 is probably the winner, even though we have to move the Settler in the 1st turn. I'm not a big fan of moving Settlers.

Doh, GOT IT and will play this today. I'll work on getting a Settler or 2 going and some exploration.

no rush with the settler, glenmetz.

this is AW.
we get to keep ONLY what we can defend.
ergo - before a settler, we must have defending units ready (a spear would be ok, 2 would be better)

dont go running about to far either.

contacts are evil!

Yes, but you definately want a bigger world map that. :rolleyes:

Alright, I'll get a couple more units up ASAP, when I've got about 5-6, I'll work on a Settler and send him towards the wines (with an escort of course).

IBT
Trondheim Spear->Spear

2950BC (1)
Worker roads
Masonry in 14-1gpt

Turns 2-4 zzzz

2800BC (5)
Worker builds Mine

IBT
Trondheim Spear->Spear

Turns 6 and 7 zzzz

2630BC (8)
Sci to 80 Masonry in 8

IBT
Trondheim Spear->Settler

2590BC (9)
Send a spear south to scout next city location

2550BC (10)
Worker done with Mine, south to build road
Sci to 70 masonry in 6

2510BC (11)
Worker roading BG S->SE of Trondheim
Trondheim grows to size 4, Sci to 60 Masonry in 5+1gpt

2470BC (12)
zzzz

IBT
Trondheim Settler->Spear

2430BC (12)
Sci to 60 Masonry in 4-1GPT

2390BC (13)
Worker done with Road, builds Mine
Sci to 50 Masonry in 4

2350BC (15)
Settler in place

2310BC (16)
Bergen founded->Warrior
Sci to 70, masonry in 1+2gpt

IBT
Masonry In->Iron Working Sci at 90 24 turns+0
Trondheim Spearman->Spearman

Turns 17, 18, 19-zzzzz

2150BC (20)
Worker done with Mine, 1 south to Wines to road

And thats all for me. Here is the current land:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/2150BC.JPG

And of course, the save (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/sw12_2150bc.SAV)

We presently have 4 spears and 2 warriors, with another spear and warrior on the way. I went for IW as tech to see if we have any iron nearby. Swords rule. Trondheim can probably get another settler out after the current build is done. I would send him to the east near the hills and coast.

Enjoy.

That penninsula to the Northwest seems unlikely to have any civs on it- you should probably explore it a little to see if anything is up there.

Hey,

For mr_2_you

First of all. The save is the beginning of the turn 1725BC. No one has moved and the builds can be changed. As well as the research %.

IBT. ZZZ

Turn(1) 2110BC: Trondheim Spear > Settler
Bergen Warrior > Rex
Hired a Scientist IW 17turns at 80%, Treasury: 2gp at -0gpt

Turn(2) 2070BC: Explore close to home North and East

Turn(3) 2030BC: Wine connected. We rejoice!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Turn(4) 1990BC: Mine wines. East Warrior sights GH. :)

Turn(5) 1950BC: Explore west coast. Warrior heads toward GH.

Turn(6) 1910BC: Same

Turn(7) 1870BC: Trondheim Settler > Spear
IW 16turns at 80%, Treasury: 2gp at -2gpt

Turn(8) 1830BC: Warrior pops GH 25gp
IW 15 turns at 80%, Treasury: 25gp at -2gpt
Turn(9) 1790BC: Copenhagen Founded
Bergen Rex > Spear
Turn(10) 1750BC: IW 9 turns at 80%, Treasury: 23gp at -0gpt

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/55672/pic_302.jpg

I didn't venture to far from our border. There is gold in the east and whales on the west coast.
146700

Blaze Injun

I sense a river ending on the mountain in the south, just a hunch. Kinda isolated mountain...

Dot-map...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/pic_302-dots.JPG
More like X-map, but whatever.

Hey,

No not whatever. A dot Map is what is needed. Is Copenhagen right?

Blaze Injun

I would put bergen NE one and copenhagen one NW to make the cxxc settling... you coulda put Copen 1 SW so troops can buzz between them in 1 turn... whenever we have to do that...

EDIT- we should keep a spear on the mountain for defense purposes and settle first on the hill city SE of us.

Hey,

I really did it to only double cover 2 squares of Trondheim. Plus having our explorers close I didn't see the trouble with movement yet. I believe the hills and the mountain range to the east may have Iron when the time comes. So Copenhagen was found there putting it 3 squares from a choke(?) point to the east.

Blaze Injun

settling pattern so far is OK.
i would, as MadV said, have probably gone for a tighter CxxC formation, but we will need production there.
and with about a gazzilion shield available at Trondheim, we want it to have room.

dot map also lots good.

lets keep the second ring on CxxC spacing though, ok?

If choxorn is the honoured lurker, can I be the dishonoured lurker?

P.S. AW? 100K? You are gonna use Feudalism as your Govt, I assume? Or would even the minimal WW that that gives be too much of a pain?

:wavey: eldar,
if you're dishonoured, so am i.

but first thing....
:band: congrats :cheers: on the new addition to your clan.

you can become our elder lurker!
or just honoured lurker...

WW would kill us, so the plan for now is:
get LIT, get GLib.
rule as monarchs while running for cavs.
once we are there, i expect the GLIB to be quite useless.
run for COMMIE and rush like mad.
till then we use cash to rush.

its going to a long bloody game.
probably VERY defensive playing too.

we will see what happens later.

i'll be able to get it and play this evening, assuming the chicago snow isn't too bad this evening.

I liked the bold commie. If only there was a smilie holding a sickle and a knife...

my official got it.

i'll try to post results tonight.

slow turnset guys. no new cities, no new enemies.

preflight- exploration

t1 1700bc
zzzzz

t2 1675bc
zzzzz

t3 1650bc
trondheim spear->worker

t4 1625bc
pop GH, learn ceremonial burial!
pop 2nd GH, get 3 angry whiteguys

t5 1600bc
bergen spear=>settler

t6 1575bc
trondheim worker=>archer (may turn into sword? IW in 2)

t7 1550bc
pop GH, get 50gold
finish iron working, starting mysticism (path to monarchy

t8 1525bc
copenhagen spearman=>worker

t9 1500bc
zzzzzzzz


t10 1475bc
zzzzzzz


files


http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106064/sw12_1475.JPG

tentative city placement?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106064/sw12_1475_dot.JPG


the save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106064/sw12_1475_BC.SAV

honored lurker (:D) comment: You may have a very large island all to yourself. Maybe you should build a curragh and test that theory, but move it one square at a time so that you don't accidentally discover anybody.
You should also build more archers to upgrade to zerks later.

I'm starting to think we're alone as well. That would be interesting in the least for an AW game.

ok.
change of plans.

* lets get a boat, test the waters.
* start a palace prebuild in a good production town.
* do we have a granary in trondheim? if not - make one.
* expand like mad over the island.

updated rota
Soul_warrior - just got :spear:
glenmetz - getting :stoner:
Blaze Injun -
mr_2_you - are you lonesome tonight?
mad viking - UP. sharpen the swords. expand.
D'art. - on deck

we sorta peaceful for war mongering fools, neh?

Commie, huh? Not having nightmares about that SGOTM? Y'know, the Celtic one, with those pesky Babylonians who forced us to actually win with over 150K culture...?

well, i dont really expect us to get too far from there.
if we wont be atleast 3/4 of the way by the time we go commie, we will be a deep hole with regards to the 100K.

ok.
change of plans.

* lets get a boat, test the waters.
* start a palace prebuild in a good production town.
* do we have a granary in trondheim? if not - make one.
* expand like mad over the island.


since this is a cultural victory, shouldn't build at least one temple sometime soon? i didn't start one because of the impending military strike. but if we're alone, we have lots of time (and shields) to kill.

yes, mr-2-you.
we should indeed, if possible.

id like to squeeze a temple or 3 when possible, but that should not be done before settler or unit output.

as i see it we can either be:
alone - in which case we will need to settle entire island and start hopping away. we can start making temples, etc once every other turn or so.
just make sure we can defend what we own.

"together" - in which case we should start pounding away ASAP.

whichever, we need troops. lots of them.

just use your judgement.

I think we should start pumping out some culture on our island while building up units for support. We should build libraries over temples as we aren't religious and they will generate more culture/shield. I don't think we should explore with a dingy yet. Why not fill the land up first, get as much culture going as possible, then head out. Remember, the 1st civ we meet we must declare on them, and I think someone will head our way soon.

Palace prebuild-Which wonder are you thinking of? ToA?

@Glenmetz:
This is why the chose to do this:
You may have a very large island all to yourself. Maybe you should build a curragh and test that theory, but move it one square at a time so that you don't accidentally discover anybody.

glen, i was thinking of Great Library.

if indeed we are alone, tech costs are still at a premium.

the GLib would be nice to have.

and choxorn got it right.

if we are alone, i want the land full of happy, intelligent people ASAP.
if not, i will settle for grunts.

From what I can tell, you have two luxes on your "island"... so you're probably not alone as the pRNG tends to have 1 lux per civ per landmass (if there are 8 civs... I'm too lazy to check your game settings!)

Late check-in.

D'arty, what does "Late Check-In" mean?

got it .

Hey,

Is it just me or is this going slowly.


Blaze Injun

Blaze, it's only been 13 hrs- he has 48. :p

Hey,

I know. Its more then 13 hours. :nya: Its just I've been lucky enough to have faster play in my other games.

Wasn't being pushy. Besides we have you here to keep track of these things. Right? :)


Blaze Injun

Sorry, HW's been a drag, playing now.

0-3 boooooring...
IBT: Trond archer => archer, Copenhagen worker => curragh
4- more exploring
IBT: Bergen settler => worker
...
7-
IBT: SEE EGYPT!!!!!! declare war
Trond archer => warrior
9- Found Not Quite Whales W of Bergen, start on rax
IBT: Bergen worker => FIRST TEMPLE!!!
10- elite spear redlines warrior, gain 2 slaves...
Varity of pics for your preasure
1- i guess egypt somewhere sw-se of the spear
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/sw1.PNG
2,3,4- dots, the warrior spot nw of trond and south are priorities
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/sw2.PNG
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/sw3.PNG
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/sw4.PNG
le save (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/SW12_1250bc.SAV)

Oh, sorry, next person change not quite whales to rax... :blush:

great dots, MadV.

lets try and let trond grow a bit please?
it would much more productivethat way.

rota:

Soul_warrior - waiting to spill some African blood.
glenmetz -
Blaze Injun -
mr_2_you -
mad viking - met Cleo. DoW.
D'art. - up now.

at MadV, its kind of a stupid question, but why are you handwriting on some pictures and not on others, isn't it better (and easier) to type them all instead of trying to draw some?

:bump: Bumpy.

Sorry I couldn't get back to you faster. I'm very busy.

yes, lets get this back on track

Sorry I couldn't get back to you faster. I'm very busy.
yes.
but was that an I GOT IT or a NEED A SKIP?

i will play it tomorrow night if dart has not posted a GOT IT.

i am playing now.

dart is skipped.
glenmetz, please warmup...

0- 1250bc.
up sci to 90. cut a turn off myst.

IBT-
Myst in. POTS in 4 (at 100%) we are not hemmed in, and need the pop.
2 yellow warriors pop up.

1-
trondheim warrior > settler (gran prebuild)
2 workers road. spear holes up.
warrior and archer leave trond and head south towards action.

IBT-
yellow wont attack the spear. chasing worker slaves.

2-
copenhagen curragh > archer.
moves.

IBT-
nada. yellow moving up. im closing in.

3-
nada.

IBT-
nada

4-
start prechop for granary.
workers keep on roading-mining.

IBT-
POTTERY IN. POLY.

5-
got them evil uns in my sights.

IBT-
PORTUGAL (lisbon) gets colossus!

6-
kill one warrior. no promotion. (1-0)

IBT-

7- bstard warrior sees fit to fight my archers. we lose one archer. warriors head is now on a pole (2-1)

8- still dry. boat found nothing....

9-
copenhagen archer > rax.
not quite whales spear > archer.

start another chop near trond to hurry nother build.

kill a yellow warrior. (3-1) get an E Archer.

10-
trond granary > warrior (and next a settler on growth)

found yellow borders.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_462.jpg

troops are heading south.
we need to pump them settlers out.
try and build rax wherever we can next, i HATE reg troops.

No problem, but not a chance in hell I'll be playing it today (theres that little thing called the super bowl tonight). I'll get it tomorrow night.

Hey, it's not on for another 4 hours. :p

You forgot the save.

Hey, it's not on for another 4 hours. :p

True, but I have to shower, clean the bathroom, get all the food out, and finish up some other getting ready stuff. I've already made the chili and cheese tray though.

The save is up.

I GOT IT!!!!

nvm ...

Hey, it's not on for another 4 hours. :p


But thats the pregame :beer: :cheers: :run: :beer:

I have the Stuffed Cajun Pork loin cooking now.


Blaze Injun

What's the point of watching the pregame? I mean all they say is that "who do you think is going to win" and each of their answers are about 10 minutes long, not very exciting... :p

What's the point of watching the pregame? I mean all they say is that "who do you think is going to win" and each of their answers are about 10 minutes long, not very exciting... :p

Its about the Beer, mon. ;)


Blaze Injun

Well, that makes it even less disarable then since I can't drink...:p

Hey,

Sorry about that. I just looked at your profile.

Don't drink or gamble and stay in school. :nono: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Blaze Injun

@Blaze: And You better not get drunk! :nono: :lol: :crazyeye:

@Blaze: And You better not get drunk! :nono: :lol: :crazyeye:


That was last night. :crazyeye: The gambling has me today.

Just noticed that I have been on the forum for 2 years yesterday. :)


Blaze Injun

happy BDay, blaze!

good thing im off to sleep now...:D

well- actually, it was yesterday, and it was the anniversary of the day he joined CFC, not his birthday. :p

chox, we dont really have RLives, do we?
and what does time mean anyway?
everyone promises me ill get to third grade next year.
its been more like 30 so far!

You have a point there. :lol:

The real show's started now - halftime.

Halftime's overrated... :rolleyes:

Hey,

What a halftime, Prince sings “Best of You” by the Foo Fighters.:suicide:

How tall is that little #^*(&@

Prince Sux (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd_p1A7WVNs)

Me and the woman won $200.00 for final score. Hot tub for V-day.:D :D :D

Blaze Injun

my condolences to Whomp :cry:

glenmetz, care to honour our mourning friend and name some units (maybe even a town) in his name?
examples would be: Hollybear, Pandamonium or maybe even Bareback

Oh, and blaze.....
12' high!

who is up? is it me or is it blaze injun?

rota:

Soul_warrior - played last
glenmetz - UP NOW
Blaze Injun - ON DECK
mr_2_you -
mad viking -
D'art. - skipped.

current plan - expand. defensively.
try and get a temple or more up?
keep crawling towards POLY.

Actually, I'm up, and will play tonight.

IBT
Ottos complete the Oracle

975BC (1)
Change Trondheim to an Archer

IBT
Nada

950BC (2)
Spot Antium and the Romans. They have no techs for us, but don't have CB. They only 10 gold. I'll wait for a couple turns to see if they pickup anything we can use.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/Antium_Spotted.JPG

IBT
Trondheim Archer->Settler

925BC (3)
Nada

IBT
Our Vet Spear is killed by an Archer that gets redlined (0-1)

900BC (4)
Our Reg Archer kills redlined Archer (1-1)

IBT
Copenhagen Barracks->Archer
Our Reg Warrior defends against an Archer and gets a promotion (2-1)

875BC (5)
Vet Warrior killed by Reg Spear (2-2)

IBT
Not Quite Whales Archer->Barracks (to be rushed once pop is up)

850BC (6)
Trade Rome CB for Wheel+10GPT

IBT
Trondheim Settler->Archer
Egypts found Giza right between 2 archers and a spear

825BC (7)
Sci to 70 Poly in 12-2
Whip Barracks in Not Quite Whales
Reg Archer (gets promoted) kills Spear in Giza and its destroyed (3-2)
Elite Archer pokes a bunch of holes in a Warrior (4-2)

IBT
Not Quite Whales Barracks->Archer

800BC (8)
Sci to 50 Poly in 16+0
Elite Archer kills Spear (5-2)

IBT
Nada

775BC (9)
Oslo founded work Temple
Vet Archer loses to Archer (5-3)
Sci to 80, Poly in 8+0

IBT
Copenhagen Archer->Archer

750BC (10)
Vet Warrior kills redlined Archer (6-3)

IBT
Egyptian Warrior impales himself on a Spear (7-3)
Trondheim Archer->Settler
Bergen Temple->Archer

730BC (11)
Nada

IBT
Egyptian Archer impales himself on a spear, but his buddy gets revenge (8-4)

710BC (12)
Vet Archer kills an Archer (9-4)
Elite Spear loses to a spear (9-5)
But our Vet Warrior gets him and we have some more slaves (10-5)

IBT
Nada

690BC (13)
Nada

IBT
Not Quite Whales Archer->Archer

670AD (14)
Sci to 70, Poly still in 3+2GPT

IBT
Bergen Archer->Archer
Copenhagen Archer->Archer

650AD (15)
Elite Archer falls to a Reg Spear (10-6)

IBT
Trondheim Settler->Archer

630AD (16)
Sci to 50, Poly in 1+3GPT
Sorry, I went a little long because I wanted to get Poly done and let us discuss the next tech option. Here is the current land:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/630BC.JPG

And The Save (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/sw12_630bc.SAV)

picture of the front?

Hey,

Got the save.

Awaiting discussion on tech. :D


Blaze Injun

Progress to iron or horses... I would think, but lets sw see it.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/swglen1.JPG
I think we should start expanding toward the rivers and the flood plains (yummy yummy!) and capital jump there in the long run...

No horsies in our territory or anywhere near it so I say Horseback Riding should be skipped for now. Maybe we can trade Poly to the Romans once they get a couple more techs. Some other contacts would help as well.

Hey,

I thought we were playing AW. Shouldn't the Romans be on the :spank: list?


Blaze Injun

Darn it, Blaze, I wanted to say that! :p Madviking, the captions in that picture would be interesting if they were large enough for us to read. ;)

choxorn, captions say: green = town sites. red = strong points.

Blaze - indeed we are at AW.

glen - see above for :gripe:

next up - declare on rome. (unofficially, if you can trade B4 that... ;))

no need for horsies right now.
lets grab IRON.
also try and grab those lux tiles, below Not Quite Whales.
otherwise time to start pounding the dirt with our settlers.
fight defensively for now!
we are still growing.
when we reach the frontlines we can go further in...

after iron -- go straight for MONARCHY? LIT (for the LIB?)
with all the wonders being built around us i think were sinking into a hole....
we need to start digging soon.

[QUOTE=soul_warrior;5071111]
glen - see above for :gripe:
[QUOTE]

What did I do now......

nothing really.
just that tis is AW.
as in Always War.
since you met Ze Romanes,,,
and didnot declare...
generic :gripe:
no hard feeling though...
jsut as long as we declare now.

My bad, I didn't think we needed to war with everyone all the time. I thought as long as we were at war it was fine. Let the beatings begin.

no harm no foul, glen.

Hey,

Mr_2_you better take this. Water lines have froze and busted. :mad:

I won't have time to play till I get that fixed. Say 2 days.

Sorry guys.

Blaze Injun

Soul_warrior -
glenmetz -
Blaze Injun - busted pipes. aint no sunshine anymore....
mr_2_you - GRAB IT before it freezes
mad viking - ON DECK
D'art. -

Blaze- Man that sucks, :( We got some snow here in NoVa, about 2 or 3 inches, enough to close school! ;)

Please, its like 10 degrees here in balmy Western New York

It went down to 7 degrees yesterday when I was going to school. With -5 wind chill...

Hey,

Mr_2_you better take this. Water lines have froze and busted. :mad:

I won't have time to play till I get that fixed. Say 2 days.

Sorry guys.

Blaze Injun


that's real bad news... sorry to hear it. i'll be able to GET IT tonight and play thursday. is that too much of a delay?

nope .

We're expecting about 4 inches of snow tonight. Naturally, the whole of London will grind to a halt and explode due to this unprecedented downpour (1 inch is enough to cause severe disruption).

Hey,

It was 2 degrees yesterday and we got 5 inches of snow.

Sorry again but still working on the pipes. :mad:


Blaze Injun

edit: deleted turnlog

i think i hear crickets chirping.

Who is up????

Who is up????

i just posted last night, but dartagnon is up. hopefully he is paying attention!

i just posted last night, but dartagnon is up. hopefully he is paying attention!
close.
but no cigar.

Soul_warrior - warming up.
glenmetz -
Blaze Injun -
mr_2_you -
mad viking - UP NOW
D'art. - ON DECK

wrong save, it's for aabra1

wrong save, it's for aabra1

it may just be renamed.... did you open it yet? (i can't at work)

I don't think we're the byzantines. :p

I don't think we're the byzantines. :p

crap. you should take glenmetz's save and run with it then. i've obviously hosed it up for now. i'll edit my previous post.

I hate you guys. It is in the 50s here. :mad: (I suppose I should have posted this earlier...)

Its actually in the mid-20s today, its a freaking heatwave.

That is NOT a heat wave!!!!!!!!!! :gripe:

There's places up near glenmetz have 70"+ of snow. Now that's snow.

Theres places 40 miles from me that got over 100" in a week. That Oswego, NY place thats been in the news is about a 30 minute drive from my place.

So, I use glen's save? I play it at 7 or 8 2nite

play on MadV

I wish it it would snow that much here (Okay, not THAT much, but some!)- it's rare we ever get more than a couple of inches.

0- declare on Caesar
IBT: Poly comes in, go for Writing
========
1- vArcher kills rSpear, 3/4 hp
vWarrior kills rArcher, 2/4 promotes to elite. :)
Meet Alex declare war
IBT: Egypt r Archer killes v archer, 1/3
========
2- rArcher killes rArcher 1/3, promotes
3/5 eWarrior kills 1/4 vArcher, 2/5 no MGL
IBT: rArcher kills 2/4 vArcher
Bergen: archer => settler
Copenhagen: archer => settler
Not Quite Whales: archer => archer
========
3- :sleep:
IBT: Trondheim archer => archer
========
4- :sleep:
IBT: Egypt found Byblos, in the east flood plain
========
5- vArcher kills rSpear, 1/4
We found Stockholm south of Bergen starts on rax
IBT: Not Quite Whales archer => archer
========
6- vArcher loses to rSpear in Byblos, spear 1/3
vArcher killes 1/3 rSpear in Byblos, it is destroyed for 0 gold
IBT: Trond archer => temple (:culture:.)
Bergen settelr => archer
Rome discovers Writing >.<
========
7- Curragh discovers blue borders
IBT: Copenhagen settler => temple (:culture:.)
Greek discover Math
========
8- Meet Bismarck, he is up HBR, declare war.
Stop at Turn 105.
========
Big picture:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/SW5.JPG

SAVE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/Sw12_450BC.SAV)

Looks good sir. Who's next?

MV - I like your resource pix. Also, you're using the watercolor terrain - is it available for d/l somewhere still? I couldn't find it in the CFC download center :(

I think the brown movement lines are pretty cool. :goodjob:

Hey,

D'Art... your turn.

Soul_warrior - very busy till Feb, 18th. no real time for turnsets. except PBEMs
glenmetz - ON DECK
Blaze Injun -
mr_2_you -
mad viking -
D'art. - UP NOW


Blaze Injun

are we allowed to trade techs before declaring war?

are we allowed to trade techs before declaring war?
you are encouraged to trade before DOW.

MV - I like your resource pix. Also, you're using the watercolor terrain - is it available for d/l somewhere still? I couldn't find it in the CFC download center :(
Warpstorm Watercolor terrain (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=27787)

The icons are Meteorpunch's resource icons but I can't find them...

I think the brown movement lines are pretty cool. :goodjob:
There actually roads, but yeah sure whatever. :p

PS- let the worker train build the roads to the front lines for quicker deployment

Yes, roads that don't exist yet... :crazyeye:

Hey,

Is D'Art still here. I know soul has things to do. But 2 days no turns done or even claimed.

Come on!!! :gripe:


Blaze Injun

If he doesn't pick it up by tomorrow, I'll jump in.

Hey,

Take it now. D'Art hasn't been here for a long time. He was even skipped once.

Besides I'm snowed in. :snowcool:

There's about 4 or 5 archers and a healing elite warrior (:crazyeye: ) in the stack on the mountain, polly enough to get to Thebes. It would be a good idea in case of leader, rush FP in Thebes.

I'll play it tomorrow, I'm not in the mood tonight (too much snow, too much car stuck, etc......)

glenmetz??

It's priority 1 when I get home from work. My turn set in "The Great Game" took far too long last night. I will have something up this evening.

It's priority 1 when I get home from work. My turn set in "The Great Game" took far too long last night. I will have something up this evening.

Hey Glenmetz. Really enjoy reading your time in "The Great Game".


Blaze Injun

The turns in that game take FOREVER on my machine. I really need a new laptop. I'm playing now.

Preturn
zzzzzz

IBT
Iroquois finish The Pyramids in Salamanca

430BC (1)
Birka is Founded, they start work on a Temple
Science to 70, writing in 3+3gpt

IBT
Not Quite Whales Archer->Archer
Egyptians are building ToA
Greeks finish the Great Wall in Athens

410BC (2)
Aarhus founded (Temple)
Archer kills Archer x3 (3-0) and 1 is promoted

IBT
Bergen Archer->Archer

390BC (3)
Archer kills Archer x2 (5-0)
Science to 50 Writing in 1+9

IBT
Writing in, Code of Laws at 90 in 12-4gpt
Oslo Temple->Barracks

370BC (4)
zzzzzz

IBT
zzzzzz

350BC (5)
We split with Archers on Archers (6-1) but we get a promotion
Elite Warrior kills an Archer (7-1)

IBT
Not Quite Whales Archer->Archer

330BC (6)
Archer kills Archer (8-1)

IBT
Trondheim Temple->Settler
Bergen Archer->Archer

310BC (7)
zzzzzz

IBT
zzzzzz

290BC (8)
Archers kill a spear and an archer (10-1)
Science to 80, CoL in 7 even

IBT
zzzzzz

270BC (9)
zzzzzz

IBT
Trondheim Settler->Worker (finished in 2, growth in 2)
Not Quite Whales Archer->Spearman (will need an MP when it grows in 4)
Stockholm Barracks->Spearman

250BC (10)
Stack ready for attack on Pi-Ramesses
Archer falls to Spear (10-2)

IBT
Bergen Archer->Archer
Oslo Barracks->Archer

230BC (11)
The Battle for Pi-Ramesses
Archer kills Spear (11-2)
Elite Archer kills Spear (12-2) and Pi-Ramesses is destroyed (freaking size 1 cities). I'm sending the troops east towards thier core. Perhaps we can capture a city and not burn it up.
Archer kills Spear (13-2) and is promoted
Elite Warrior kills Archer (14-2)
Science to 70, CoL in 5+3

And I'm done. Here is the territory:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/230BC.JPG

And The Save (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/sw12_230bc.SAV)

Hey,

Got it. Play tonight or in morning.


Blaze Injun

That isn't very much territory... Minimap?

Thats the new territory, our expansion. The rest of the territory is the same.

What I want is the minimap- it has been a long time since it was last posted. :p

From CivAssist:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/Minimap.JPG

Hey,

Take it away Mr_2_you.

Sorry but I have to drop out of this game. Finding time now with a girl with 3 kids and 1 kid of my own is very hard.

So you all will need a replacement I quess.

Good Luck make me proud. :sad:


Blaze Injun

We'll miss you Blaze, make sure to come back and check on our progress.

acknowledged. i will play & post tonight (2/19).

230bc - preflight
switch bergen from archer to settler
everything else looks in order

t1 - trondheim worker=>archer
portuguese finish great lighthouse, probably get a golden age out of it too...
move some archers around

IBT - zzzzz

t2 - copenhagen temple=>settler
curragh comes across a purpley border, but no units to make contact with
raze hierocamsomething with single archer

IBT -

t3 - whales, spear=>settler (it's pop5)
purpley turn out to be portugese. they have math, CoL, Maps, and horsebackriding. they won't trade anything for

our 10gp, so i declare war.

IBT - we finish code of laws, i pick philo.

t4 - trondheim archer=>spear
oslo archer=>worker

IBT -

t5 -bergen settler, spear

IBT -

t6 - oslo worker=>archer
stockholm spear=>archer (f3 sez we have 35 units and are allow 32, thus paying 3 gpt support)
3 stack of our archers gets ambushed. they haveto retreat to heal (no losses)
found macho city, starts building courthouse (change it later?)

IBT - weak egyptian counter attack redlines one of our attackers

t7- trondheim archer, spear
copenhagen settler, spear
el-amarna falls to our archers. it is autorazed.
we move a respectable stack of archers outside of thebes

IBT-

t8- whales settler=>spear
capture thebes, raze it
move settler sw of stockholm

IBT - zzzz

t9 - zzzz



note to next player - i've left a settler/spear combo with moves left. they are currently (i think) in a great

spot for a new city. however, i will leave the decision up to you where to settle. there is a stack of archers

in the swamp down south.... they need some time to heal up after razing thebes.

good luck.


http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106064/sw12_50_BC.sav

How many cities does Cleo have left?

Soul_warrior - ILL GRAB A SET NOW.
glenmetz -
Blaze Injun - gone away but not forgotten
mr_2_you - played last
mad viking - ON DECK
D'art. - going to scratched from roster unless he shows some signs of life.

guys, seems by the last few turn sets that we have "forgotten" we want a 100K win.

we can tone this down to a plain AW, but i would like a team vote on this.

a Large Pelgo AW is hard enough as is...

cast your votes fellows,
i will play this tonight.

CHOXORN, no worries, i will post plenty of fix when im done.

Show Us Pictures!

guys, seems by the last few turn sets that we have "forgotten" we want a 100K win.

we can tone this down to a plain AW, but i would like a team vote on this.


i say we keep the 100k win clause. we're building temples and until we get libraries, there isn't much else we can do unless you want to gamble on a wonder.....

I agree, lets continue to shoot for 100K

ok, did a quick load up at work for some pix.

situation is not too bad, nor too shabby.

historigraph:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_222.jpg
were last in score... but that is normal for this stage.

overall victory screen:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_221.jpg
im worried about greece.
notice our culture compared to the others aswell.
we might have a problem here.

military advisor:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_223.jpg
ok. more settlers, as we seems to be having too much clear room for our own good.

finally a layout of the land.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_220.jpg

we will get philo in 2.
im praying we can grab monarchy for free, though will not hold my breath for it.
we need to get out of despotism and into monarchy ASAP

You guys have a loooonnggg way to go to get to 100k culture.

i uploaded the correct game.... yay!

You guys have a loooonnggg way to go to get to 100k culture.
yeah yeah....
are you in a hurry to get rid of us?

hey guys, how about we refer from now on to those CHOXORN greeks? :joke:

playing now....

Our culture will start pumping up once we get CxC going and throwing down Temples, Libs, and Caths in every city.

It's only 50BC! Plenty of time yet...

0- 50bc
moved the settler a notch back. still CxxC, but this allows for another town.
from hereon out its CxC....

IBT- lose Earcher. (0-1)

1-
trond archer > settler
bergen spear > archer.
Oslo archer > settler.
Build ODENSE > temple.
stumble on a portugese settler, VERY CLOSE to our lands. no contact yet.
lower sci, Philo in 1.
hole up with archers.

IBT-
kill 2 attacking archers (yellow) with archer SoD (2-1)
philo > monarchy.
portos pair flee back east.

2-
we didnt get free crowns.
monarchy @80%, in 25 turns.

IBT- porto pair settled. shame, could have used the slaves.

3-
copenhagen spear > worker.
not quite whales spear > temple.
attack Sao Paulo, get an EArcher, auto raze it. (3-1)
build Hareid > temple.
finally the spices are connected. will allow for growth. lux at 0 now.

IBT- our fearless SoD kills an archer, defending. (4-1)

4-
trond settler > spear
stockhold archer > worker
OTTOMANS get ToArtemis....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_toa-466.jpg
build MOLDE > temple.
SoD keeps healing. no hurry to grab egypt only to die defending, is there?

IBT-
spot a porto galley getting close to our hinterland.

5-
bergen archer > granary.
copenhagen worker > archer,
MAYANS get the HANGING GARDENS
so the ZULU grab MoMs.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_MOM-468.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_HG-467.jpg
meet MAYA.
i beg borrow and steal and try to make a good monarchy deal.
no go.
i do however give them writing for 212g.
now try to tempt them with PHILO+COL+227g+33gpt = no go.
DOW.
up sci to 100 with new cash, monarchy in 16 now.

IBT- nada

6-
oslo settler > archer
moving troops.

IBT-
porto galley is at our northern most tip.

7-
trond archer > archer.
stockhold worker > temple.

HELIOPOLIS
attack with an EArcher, it dies. (3-2)
2nd EARCHER attacks, wins, and we have a leader.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_JB-470.jpg
unit renamed - Jhonny Bravo
it is regrettable that it is razed.

build ALESUND > temple.

IBT- :coffee:

8- :sleep:
the egyptian SoD is growing.

IBT-
oopsie.
porto galley back tracks and drops a horse and warrior very close to home.

9-
i gamble.
Oslo's garrison (archer+warrior) attack. both win. (5-2)
kill a yellow spear, nab a pair of slaves, lose an archer doing it. (6-3)

IBT-

10-
trond archer > worker.
copenhagen archer > archer.
birka temple > settler.

we have a LEADER in ODENSE.
possible uses are:
hurry palace (for bettler lands)
stockholm seems like a nice place for a palace.
or build an army.... :evil:
leave it UNMOVED, so we dont lose a turn.

generic pix
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_472.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_471.jpg

I don't see why we would want to move our Capital. The region Trondheim in is nice with the river and lots of Shields. If we move it (say along the River and Flood Plains) we'd be food-rich, but shield poor.

An Army with the Leader I say. But an army of what??? Wait until MDI maybe, or go Archers now? Is there any Iron on this Island?

i did not see any iron.

i did notice it on other islands.

wait for ZERKS to claim some of it?

i too vote for an army, but we should leave it open.

egypt is the sole neighbour and its quite gassed...
we would be wasting a good army with archers in it.

moving the palace to the stockholm/odense area will allow us to have cities 360 degrees around our capitol, as opposed to the 200 degree arc we have around trondheim. more cities in the core means more production.

yeah yeah....
are you in a hurry to get rid of us?

hey guys, how about we refer from now on to those CHOXORN greeks? :joke:

playing now....

I was only commenting on how you said everyone seemed to have forgotten you were going for 100k. Sheesh.

Wow, I went on a vacation and still didn't miss a turnset. :lol:

I dunno if i can get it after all the vacation

playing now.

PART ONE!!!
Preturn- move some workers, fortify leader, armies have like, no moves so keep him there.
Ugh... GREEN Maya :lol:
IBT: Oslo archer => settler
========
1- eArcher kills rSpear, still 5/5 no leader
Monarchy drops to 8 turns
IBT: Trond worker => settler
Aarhus Temple => worker
========
2- eArcher kills rArcher, now 3/5 no leader
Blob of units ascend on Elephantine
IBT: Not Quite Whales temple => settler
Mayans get Monarchy (?)
========
3- vArcher kills rSpear now 1/4 promotes
vArcher loses to rSpear, now 1/3
vArcher kills rSpear, now 3/4
vSpear kills rArcher, 2/4, promotes :crazyeye:
vArcher kills 1/3 rSpear, now 1/4, captures Elephantine. :) We gain 1 golds and 2 slave

Argh... now I have to do my homework...

Did capturing Elephantine kill Egypt, or do they still have a city left?

They some villas in the untamed jungles SE of them.

MadV, you do remember that if you have a MGL available (ie - fortified) you cant get another one, right?

so - make an army of it, but leave it empty for now, will you?

we will get more MGLs later.

Oh! Ok...

PART TWO (2)
3 cont.- make army
IBT: Birka expands
Alex wants to talk! :lol:
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4- Archers kill 2 spears at Memphis, BURNiNATE!
IBT: Egypt archer kills elite archer. >.<
Bergen granery => settler, it expands again
Copenhagen archer => worker
========
5- Our 2/5 archer loses to 2/3 archer >.< it promotes...
Lose an archer at Alexandria
IBT: Aarhus worker => worker, Portugeek galley moves on in near our coast
========
6- Found Drunken Cows
IBT: Egypt archer gets pwned at Alexandria
Copenhagen worker => settler
Whales expand
Oslo settler => archer
========
7- Archer stomp Alexandria, Egypt gone. :banana:
IBT: Port drops horsys at Oslo
Whales settler => worker
========
8- Found Viking Canal
IBT: Ports capture Alesund
Monarchy => Maps 80% @ 9 turns, -2 gpt
========
9- Say you wanna revolution... Y'know its gonna be alright, Only 5 turns. :)
...
========
11- Capture back Alesund
Tromso founded
========
14- We are now the Viking Monarchy. :)
========
15- Bergen settler => settler
Whales settler => settler
Birka settler => archer
Aarhus worker => worker
Found Vadso
Stop at 150

There were some battles that i didn't mention, mostly fending off Port horsys

Pic, plans and save comin'...

Plans and such:
1- watch out of speedy port galleys polluting our water
2- those galleys have 3 + seafaring bonus + lighthouse = 5 moves
3- expand, use the Oregon trails (see pics) to settle Egyptia, it's really corrupted there, so ICS would be the way to go
4- Start expanding toword the sea and places, ics if necessary
5- feudalism? :culture::whipped:
pics next post

Yargh... quadruple post...

SAVE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/SW12_350AD.SAV)

A pic- Use Oregon trail and ICS
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/59103/oregontrail.JPG

1- watch out of speedy port galleys polluting our water
Water can't get "polluted" in civ3...


5- feudalism? :culture::whipped:

That would be a :nono: Remember, WW? ;)

Soul_warrior - ON DECK. will play on saturday.
glenmetz -
mr_2_you -
mad viking - just made us :king:
D'art. - up now. last chance.

eldar, you want a set? just whisper...

eldar, you want a set? just whisper...

WSGOTM4 starts today... Final Fantasy XII comes out today... I've got a 7-week-old baby girl at home... I'm going to be a little on the tipsy side when I get in tonight around midnight... and you want me to slip in a quiet set in this game?!

Okay, but if I do, be prepared for it to be less than sober, and only if I can :ar15: :hammer: :spank: something.

eldar, i think our land mass is clear now.

dont mind the buzzed part.
thats how most sets i post are done.

just check here before playing, and post a plagiiging@# noooowwww>W$#%#$%, K?

Okay, I'll wait until we have BIG BOATS and BIG AXE-WIELDING MANIACS. Then HURTY TIME!

Last chance is over. Bye.

Soul_warrior - UP NOW. will play on tomorrow or monday.
glenmetz - ON DECK
mr_2_you -
mad viking - just made us

ill post a request for more players
any lurkers wanting to play?

eldar, were saving you some greek bacon to :spank:


D'art. - up now. last chance.- out of rota

I'm not even a lurker, but I have read the last couple of pages to sort of *get a feel* for this game. I would be happy to fill in a blank spot, if none of the lurkers will join.

Hey,

Just remember 100K and AA requirements. I'd think soul warrior would let you in. I have played with soul on SG GAM01win and in 2 of my 3 PBEMs now.

Still around. I could take a turn soon if need be. :mischief:

Blaze Injun

I'm currently fulfilling one of the conditions of me filling in (alcohol comsumption above legal limit for driving... er, I haven't been driving, I don't think there's a legal limit for walking^Hstaggering, yet!), just there's nobody to beat up and NO DUMB AXE-WIELDING MANIACS yet.

[offtopic] You type well for a drunk person. And you don't NEED to be drunk to use the :viking:

* sercer88, welcome onboard.
* eldar, sorry about the axemen... soon.
* Blaze, youre still welcome anytime.

im a bit bogged down and can only play tuesday.
if anyone wants to play, just holler.

i expect this set to be power-building at its best.
lets try and have a few settlers walking at all times, along with some temples going too.

so, immediate roster is:
any lurker, former player or just a quiet builder - TODAY
Soul - tuesday
wendesday is another day....

Hoepfully, I can manage to get the 1.22 patch to work somehow so I can get in on the :spank: and the :viking: and the :mwaha:

Hey Soul, we'll wait for you. You playing on Tuesday is actually better for me, as I have darts tuesday night and wouldn't be able to play if you got it done tonigh. OK, that was confusing.

Madv
S_w
sercer88
*lurker* (eldar)
glen

Is that the roster?

Madv
S_w
sercer88
*lurker* (eldar)
glen

Is that the roster?



did i get fired?

Whoops, I think somewhere in there... :crazyeye:

playing NOW.
update soon.

0-
Everyone is happy. Tweedle with the builds a bit.

Ibt- those sneaky portos drop a horse up our rear.

1-
Kill it with a handy EArcher. No fillet today.

Ibt-

2-
trond spear > archer.
Oslo archer > archer.
Macho city temple > settler.
Build Farsund Gold > temple.

Ibt- a porto warrior for our EArcher to practice lands on the usual spot.

3-
Copenhagen settler > archer.
It was a mighty warrior. We shall tell many tales of it.
It dies to the second archer.
Build RISOR > temple

Ibt-
Portos want peace.
Look at the offer.
They are up MM, HBR and MATH.
Rejected.

Also saw a jap sword stack moving.

4-
Trond archer > settler.
Molde temple > settler.

Ibt- MM is in. go for lit. (in 6)

5-
bergen settler > archer.
Stockhold temple > settler.

Ibt-

6-
Not quite whalwes settler > galley
Oslo archer > archer
Birka rax > archer.
Build FAUSKE temple,
Odense will riot, hire a taxman.

Ibt-

7-
Trond settler > archer.
Copenhagen archer > archer
Arhaus settler > archer.

Ibt-
Portos drop an archer on a hill.

8-
Bergen archer > archer.
Porto archer killed.
Build Spicy Karistad > harbor
Drop sci 4 notches, lit still in 2.

Ibt-

9-
Oslo archer > worker.
Build Batsfjord > temple.
Another 2 notches down. LIT in 1.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a113/soul_warrior/sw12_231.jpg

all in all, quitre peaceful.
killed me a few portos.
lost an archer.

lit is in, so start-change core to libraries.

we need more archer concentrations, to cover our towns.

soul warrior... smooth turnset. can you update the roster in post#1? it still has darty in it.

Ghostly voice: Minimap.... (I just like the minimap to put things in perspective) :scan: :borg:

Just add more dots and colors...

So sorry. I lost my disk.

You should Probably edit it into your sig so that any SG you are in that doesn't already know will know, D'arty.
EDIT: Woohoo! 1,800th post and anniversary of my join date!

updated roster

Soul_warrior -
glenmetz - UP NOW
mr_2_you - ON DECK
mad viking -
sercer88- subbing for now. full time later.
eldar- maniacal lurker waiting for :viking:

I've got it, and will throw down tonight when I get out of work

IBT
Lit is in, Science to Maths at 60%, 4+19
Trondheim Archer->Library
Birka Archer->Library
Odense riots, grab a clown
Molde Settler->Library

460AD (1)
Hammerfest Founded->Temple
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/hammerfest_founded.JPG
Meet Shaka, trade Monarchy for HBR, Maths, and 69 Gold
Trade Lit and 11GPT for Construction
Declare War on Shaka
Research now on Currency at 100 in 6-20gpt
Change some builds to libraries:Oslo, Bergen, Aarhus, Copenhagen

IBT
Macho City Settler->Library

470AD (2)
Honningsvag founded->Temple
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/Honningsvag_founded.JPG
Science to 90, Currency still in 5-14gpt

IBT
Stockhold Settler->Library

480AD (3)
Svolvaer Founded->Temple
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/Svolvaer_founded.JPG

IBT
zzzz

490AD (4)
Haugesund Founded->Temple
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/Haugesund_founded.JPG

IBT
Not Quite Whales Galley->Library
Portugal lands 2 Horsies near Farsund Gold

500AD (5)
Archer from Farsung Gold kills Horsie and is promoted to Elite (1-0)
Archer from Viking Canal kills Horsie (2-0)
Science to 80, Currency in 2+1

IBT
Zulu are building The Great Library

510AD (6)
Our Galley sinks a Portugese Galley (3-0)
Science to 70, Currency in 1+10GPT

IBT
Currency in, Sci to 90, Feudalism in 10-15GPT
Trondheim Library->Marketplace (we could use the gold)

520AD (7)
zzzz

IBT
Alesund Temple->Library
Odense Temple->Library
Hareid Temple->Library

530AD (8)
Our Galley is sunk (3-1)
Sarpsborg Founded->Temple
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/Sarpsborg_Founded.JPG
Find the Persians, they are down Tech and have no money, declare

IBT
Bergen Library->Archer

540AD (9)
zzzz

IBT
zzzz

550AD (10)
zzzz

Tis all folks. Heres the overview:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/570AD.JPG
And the minimap
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/550AD_Mini.JPG
And the SAVE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/84973/sw12_550AD.SAV)

How much cash do we have, we need some money to upgrade the archers to zerkers.

i dont think we have that many archers....

we might consider a LEOs PREBUILD THOUGH.

mr_2_you - up now.
mad viking - ON DECK

anyone care to check our CPT as of now?

and i think its time we start planning going overseas for some entertainment for eldar.

got it..........

preflight - we're running -18gpt?
switch odense from lib to settler
switch bergen archerto settler
switch batsjford from temple to settler


f3 tells me we're a seafaring civ with no boats???? on an archpeligo map?????

t1 560ad
oslo library=>galley
worker actions
turn sci slider down to 70% so we don't go bankrupt.
no war weariness yet

IBT - a bunch of cities expand culturally

t2 570ad
zzzz

IBT - nada

t3 580ad
begin Great Library in BErgen, possible pre-build for future wonder
copenhagen library=>aquaduct
tromso temple=>settler

IBT - greeks wish to talk.... alex offers peace and wants lit from us... they have horses and are behind us in

tech

t4 590ad
worker movement... we're working a lot of unimporved tiles, i'm trying to fix this.

IBT = portugal lands a horsedood near viking canal

t5 600ad
horsedood killed
trondheim marketplace=>galley
oslo galley=>aqueduct
risor temple=>library

IBT - nada

t6 610ad
a quick check of the culture screen shows we're making a dent in everyone else (except greece)
found city of LakeLake =>library
galley finds iceland off to the nw...


IBT - nada

t7 620ad

!!!compared to everyone our army is weak!!!
trondheim galley=>archer
whales library=>archer

IBT - greek galley appears... does it have settlers? horsedoods?
germans request audience... they are waaaaaay behind on tech... suckers.
we learn feudalism... onward to engineering. (going for a culture win, i would normally go for theology and

sistine chapel.... but we don't have monotheism yet.)
do we want to change to feudalism? i see no reason to change our current gov't, so no.
maya building great lib

t8 - 630ad
birka library=>settler
worker actions

IBT - lots of portuguese galleys cruise around.

t9 640ad
trondheim archer=>archer
viking canal temple=>library
aarhus library=>harbor
molde library=>spear

IBT - nada

t10 650ad
whales archer=>marketplace



theeeeeee saaaave (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/106064/sw12__650_AD.SAV)

Seafaring + Archi + No boats at all = Great recipe for disaster. Having No boats pretty much wastes the seafaring trait. It's also a bit of a waste if you're militaristic and have the world's most wimpy military. Even if you are shooting for 100k, you seem to be building too many settlers for Archi and AW.