Apparently, Firaxis is putting out a new patch on Friday. Do we intend to use this patch? I am worried about switching patches in midgame, as it could have unknown effects, but there should be some very desireable improvements in it. We will probably want to wait until we know what it will do, but the readme does come out today, so we can begin discussion.

I like what the readme.txt file had to say for changes. From a trade perspective it seems to promise some needed improvements.

I recall that our early formative discussions for this game indicated that we would always use the latest patch. I propose we use it.

Bill
Trade Leader

If we don´t switch patches more people will get into the same situation as me and Killer, ie trying to use different patches for the democracy game and single games. That is a fate I don´t wish for anyone.

Edit: Daaraa, I saw your pm and just answered to it. :)

I'm in the same boat as Mr Spice.
I say go with the new patch.

PS. - Mr Spice I PMed you regarding the different patches. Didn't want to spam the thread. :)

I am just worried that, like the 1.16 patch, if you install it half way through a game, it will possibly generate bugs. Would a couple of our more technically skilled citizens look into this?

That was something else I noticed when I went from 1.16 to 1.17 briefly. My 1.16 games (I had about 4 on the go) didn't work very well in 1.17. I had a lot of crashes. Finally I reloaded 1.16 and restarted a few turns back. (That felt like cheating a little as a lot happened in those few turns)
I would say that until the possibility of bugs going from 1.17 to 1.21 is ruled out we should stick with 1.17.

The Patches are easily uninstalled, so we could stick with 1.17 if there would be problems using the 1.21 patch.

But I would like to use it for the game, if it wasn't for the crash risk.

We should use the latest patch

i never had any prob with game started on 1.16 and finished on 1.17.

We should at least TRY 1.21. As Gray Fox pointed out, we can always go back to v. 1.17 if we have any problems.

I'd say go with it. It seems to fix many problems with 1.17f.

Originally posted by Falcon02
We should at least TRY 1.21. As Gray Fox pointed out, we can always go back to v. 1.17 if we have any problems. Go with it! :goodjob:

well we might as well give it a shot.

Is there any way to keep a copy of our game going that would be safe from any bugs that occur because we switched patches in mid-game?

Someone can keep it on thier computer zipped up. It won't get corrupted. If it is needed that person can repost it. I'm sure that would work.

Just got an email fr TF that the patch is out! :D Well, what's the final decision now?

I've been running the patch for two hours. Very stable, no issues using a save game.

Only surprising changes I see are that the barbs seem a little "tougher" to beat. But that could well be small sample size of two battles.

Otherwise stack movement only works for awake units, but I understand there were complaints about how it worked before and this is actually a fix.

Bill