I have become aware that most of this team is not agreeing with me a quite a few strategic points. So I’ve decide to download a free corporate team building exercise to help get us back on the proper track.

NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST: WHO SHOULD SURVIVE?

Azeletrof has just been nuked! 1889, admiral-bell, azzaman333, Ball Lightning, Bartholomaï, BCLG100, Bede, Black_Hole, CivGeneral, classical_hero, cody_the_genius, croxis, deshelbr, Donovan Zoi, dutchfire, dzn, Emp.Napoleon, Emp. Killyouall, gandhi rules, gbno1fan, Ginger_Ale, ice2k4, Karhu, Karl, ownsend, Kuningas, lost_civantares, Memphus, Methos, moonshine_MS, MrC, Nobody, Oldbus, Oni of Chaos, Pajka, RegentMan, rhino78, robboo, Robi D, Spoony, Sweetacshon, Swissempire, Theoden, Vind2, ybbor and zyxy have managed to make it to a bunker located beneath the palace.

If all of you stay, you will not last until next turn, however, you all realise that if 40 of you leave soon 5 can carry on and exact revenge.

In your bunker, you have the following facilities:
sewage system
water
seeds
some clothes
a few books
some medical facilities but no operating material
a greenhouse

In your group of 45, each of you have a chance to speak. You must present your case. Explain why you think you should live. Argue for your life unless you really want to sacrifice for others. Listen to others arguments as well.

Each person in the group of 45 will play one of the following roles. (please state what role you are playing when your post).
scientist
priest
married couple who are hippies and drug addicts
a single pregnant woman with a 5 year old girl
an army officer who has mental instability of some sort but is useful nonetheless
an elderly woman
a disabled person
lawyer
dole bludger (a person who exploits the unemployment system)
doctor
the president
foreign minister
domestic minister
UN representative
small puppy
reality show star
journalist
Richard Simons
middle manager
lion tamer
mountain climber
famous hockey player
Guinness world record holder
brewer
circus acrobat
the cast of River Dance

Allow each person to post
Decide whether some will leave and the others stay
Decide who will leave and who will stay
When that is complete, you are to answer the following question in your journal (you must provide your own journal).


Explain why you feel the choice was made. What influenced your decision? Did anyone emerge as a leader? Why? How did this influence the choices?

I'm the scientist. I think that we will need a scientist to develop instruments to rebuild our beautiful city better than it was and to preserve the knowledge we've accumulated through centuries. Without me, everything our scientists have worked on for ages will be lost.

I'll be the doctor and manipulate the drug addicted hippies into doing my bidding. Don't nobody mess with me!

I am the UN Representative. How will we rebuild without my organization?

OK, I think everyone has had a chance to comment so lets start winding the discussion down and I’ll go back to the web site and check our results against the experts.

Well I am conflicted....hence my long time in replying.

scientist because I can grow food for you bunch OR the hippie drug addicts because they KNOW how to grow "stuff" in a greenhouse settings.

professionally I am a scientist so thats not a leap, but for me to pass as a hippie thats a drug addict is a huge leap.

Food is the key to making it through this. The doctor..well you would look like a steak in a white coat once the hippies get hungry. The scientist to work on research and technology...again a steak carrying a pocket protector. Now as for the forty that leave...well they should be used as food or as compost. IF you are going to survive some sacrifices must be made. So who wants dark meat or light meat. well done or medium rare. BC has been drinking enough alcohol that he is quite marinated. Oh and we should kill the politicians and burn them to keep us warm..its probably their fault we got in this mess to begin with.

:)

And with that I head to bed after being awake for 26 hours..i know i will proabably regret this post in the morning.

Well the shelter has enough food for 5 people so no need to resort to cannibalism...unless you want to. It sounds like you might already have some recopies in mind.

bwhahhhaaaa....nah....no recipes. Only if the crops fail. :)

Lion tamer. It wouldnt be much use, unless if there were lions in the bomb shelter as well. :mischief:

If BCLG drinks enough, he might start acting like a lion :p

ooooo im the president, what do i do?

Ok, bad news, this exercise was for Christian youth groups to help teens resist peer pressure. It’s basically just s trick question to help them recognize how moral issues can get overlooked in group decisions.

Basically we just judged the people in the bunker according to the most superficial characteristics: their job, their exploitability or their nutritious value. If everybody here did just their job that would make us a machine not a team. An effective team should draw on all the various strengths of its members, but that would take another 28 pages so I just found another exercise.

I’ll post the scenario latter, for now just climb aboard the small airplane that has come to take you away from the bunker, the pilot assures you that the storm will not be a problem.

dang it...all my internet searches for recipes are now useless.

My lion taming skills are going to just go to waste?! Noooooo! :cry:

...But the storm is a problem and the plane crashes. It goes down in the forested hills SE of Azeletrof (mountain lion infested for azzaman). The pilot was killed but the rest of you are uninjured. It is mid January and daily temperature is -25 C, -40 C at night (roughly -10/-40 F). There is snow on the ground; the area is wooded and criss-crossed by several frozen creeks. The copper mine is still as busy as ever, but you estimate that it is nearly 20 miles (32 km) away. You are all dress in normal indoor clothing, but do manage to salvage the following items:

a ball of steel wool
a small ax
a loaded .45-caliber (11mm) pistol
a can of Crisco shortening
newspapers (one for each person)
cigarette lighter (without fluid)
extra shirt and pants for each person
20x20 ft. (6x6 m) piece of heavy-duty canvass
a plastic aeronautical map of the area
one quart (or one litter) of 100-proof whiskey
a compass
family sized chocolate bars (one for each person)

List the 12 items in order of importance for your survival.

Chocolate bars come first.

Map comes first.

Compass comes first, you can walk 20 miles in a day but without the compass you wont have any idea which way to go :)

Newspaper.

extra shirt and pants for each person
newspapers (one for each person)
20x20 ft. (6x6 m) piece of heavy-duty canvass
cigarette lighter (without fluid)
a small ax
a ball of steel wool
family sized chocolate bars (one for each person)
a can of Crisco shortening
a loaded .45-caliber (11mm) pistol
a plastic aeronautical map of the area
a compass
one quart (or one litter) of 100-proof whiskey

First off....in a survival situation is weather. Its cold so you need warmth. In those temps you wont last the night if you do not have enough clothes and a shelter.

So extra clothes are first, The newspaper is next because you can crumple it and stuff your clothes for more insulation. The canvas for a make shift night time shelter. The lighter, ax and steel wool can be used to make a fire which will further warm you.

Next is food...chocholate and crisco will provide you with energy for the walk. In addition the crisco can be smeared on your nose and ears for added frost bite protection.

Third is walking to your recuse( which is not a good choice since you are more visible with the plane...BUT if we must walk). teh gun is better of attracting attention if you see someone or here someone far off. Its also going to be more use while walking since you are more likely to run into a lion the more ground you cover. The map and compass will help you walk out.

Finally the alcohol. IF you drink it, you will die. It actually causes you to lose body heat. Therefore it should be used as an antesiptic for any wounds encountered during the travels.( maybe help light the fire but 50% alcohol in low temps doesnt give off much fumes so it may not light)

In addition, you can take a wad of canvas, and some crisco and make a torch which will help you move your fire from camp site to campsite. Walking 20 miles is easy in normal territory but the weather will make that a 2 or 3 day hike.

I am also just tempted to take the gun shoot the rest of you so I can have your chocolate and extra clothes but the point of this is team building not team killing. Oh and dont forget if I do that I could use those recipes that I looked up. :mischief: Tough choice....:crazyeye:

So say you all? If thats what you're going with I'll get the scores.

A perfect score is 15, the worst is 50. Rob gets....23! Congratulations you survive.

My list:

a plastic aeronautical map of the area
20x20 ft. (6x6 m) piece of heavy-duty canvass
extra shirt and pants for each person
a compass
family sized chocolate bars (one for each person)
a can of Crisco shortening
a small ax
newspapers (one for each person)
cigarette lighter (without fluid)
one quart (or one litter) of 100-proof whiskey
a loaded .45-caliber (11mm) pistol
a ball of steel wool

Getting colder Dutch, thats a 36. Do you want to be served as a roast or a stew?

nah he gets cooked in a Dutch oven of course.

All my watching of Survivorman has paid off.

Im afraid ive done this at school, so i can't take part without you know cheating.

Hey 1889...I'd like to have the link for this..curious as to what they suggested.

I no longer have the link handy, but a Google search spews out a bunch of this stuff, I'm looking for another one we can do.

I will post a full explanation when I get a chance.

Many individuals overlook the enormous shock that results from such accidents and the detrimental effect shock has on judgment. That in itself is a powerful reason to stay with the wreckage and await rescue. The crash site will also be much easier to spot especially in a wooded area and when considering that the pilot’s flight plan should give rescuers a good idea were to search.

A 20 mile walk is a long way particularly for those not used to walking such distances. Under these circumstances it would mean almost certain death.

The first priority then is to stay warm next would be to attract the attention of rescuers.

These rankings were made by Mark Wanvig, former instructor in survival training for the Recon school of the US Army 101st Division.

cigarette lighter (without fluid)
A fire will provide warmth and help rescues find you. Without matches, something is needed to produce sparks; even without fluid the lighter can do that.
a ball of steel wool
This is the best substance for catching sparks and supporting a flame, even if slightly wet.
extra shirt and pants for each person
Besides warmth, clothes can be used for shelter, signaling, bedding, bandages, string, and fuel for the fire.
a can of Crisco shortening
A mirror like signaling device can be made from the lid; after shinning it with the steel wool it can generate 6 million candlepower from reflected sunlight, bright enough to be seen beyond the horizon. With no other means of signaling they should have better than 80% chance of being rescued the first day.
The shortening can be rubbed on skin as protection from cold. When melted into oil and soaked in cloth it will serve as a candle.
The empty can serve as a bowl for melting snow.
20x20 ft. (6x6 m) piece of heavy-duty canvass
Can be used as a shelter from snow and wind, or as a ground cover to keep survivors dry. The contrast between this regular shape and the surrounding terrain will make the group more visible to rescuers.
a small ax
A constant supply of wood will be needed for the fire, hence the utility of the axe.
family sized chocolate bars (one for each person)
Made mostly of carbohydrates, chocolate provides food energy without making digestive demands on the body.
newspapers (one for each person)
Useful for starting a fire or rolled up and stuffed in clothing for additional insulation. It can also provide reading material for recreation.
a loaded .45-caliber (11mm) pistol
Useful as a sound-signaling device. The butt can be used as a hammer.
As anger, frustration and lapses in rationality increase as the group awaits rescue, the availability of a lethal weapon poses a danger to the group.
Although it could be used for hunting, it would require an expert marksman to kill an animal with it. The animal would then still have to be brought back to the crash site.
one quart (or one litter) of 100-proof whiskey
Can be used to soak cloth and make torches. It poses a danger if drunk as alcohol dilates blood vessels in the skin increasing heat loss.
a compass
May possibly be used as a reflector, but is dangerous as it may encourage some to attempt to walk out.
a plastic aeronautical map of the area
Useless except as a ground cover.

I will be the army officer and i post later