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History_Buff
Apr 18, 2002, 01:47 PM
From what continent were Africans brought to Canada as slaves?

Anybody know?

Stefan Haertel
Apr 18, 2002, 02:10 PM
They came from Africa itself. There were certain states at the gulf of Guinea which became wealthy by selling prisoners of war or even their own people as slaves to the Europeans, and they went driectly to the new world.
Today still, the coast of Togo, Benin and parts of Nigeria (the "original" Benin") is called "Slave Coast". Some slave trader states were Benin (in today's Nigeria), Ashanti (in today's Ghana), Dahomey (in today's Benin and Togo) and Igbo (in Cameroon).
According to my information, the trade routes went directly to America, mostly Brazil, but also Central and North America (maybe Walo and Cayor in today's Senegal is important to mention as well)

Hamlet
Apr 18, 2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by History_Buff
Anybody know?

Is this a trick question?

amadeus
Apr 18, 2002, 05:20 PM
I'm going to guess Europe, actually...

That's just because Europeans do everything bass-ackwards ;)

MrPresident
Apr 19, 2002, 04:00 AM
That's just because Europeans do everything bass-ackwards
Yeah, why the hell we wanted to colonise America is beyond me. ;)

knowltok2
Apr 19, 2002, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by MrPresident

Yeah, why the hell we wanted to colonise America is beyond me. ;)

I think being able to see the sun on occasion might have had something to do with it. ;)

MrPresident
Apr 19, 2002, 06:14 AM
I think being able to see the sun on occasion might have had something to do with it.
We had India and Africa for that. Also they gave us Tea and Spices. The only thing we got from America was a lot of trouble when we asked them to pay for their own defence, I mean what is up with "no tax without representation", a lot of us English didn't have representation in Parliament either.

redtom
Apr 19, 2002, 07:16 AM
A quite a lot of black people in Canada are escaped slaves and are from America. Many followed the so called "Underground Train" through the US to Buffalo then into Canada. This is due to the fact that Britain and its Empire gave up slavery in 1801, (due to agreement with Napoleon during the brief rest bite during in the Napoleonic Wars.) It took the hicks/red necks/yankies to give it a rest in 1861(?) at the end of the American Civil War.

Many were helped by the Quakers to escape.

This action nearly led to war as many senates were slave owners and were a bit miffed at loosing slaves. There was many angry words said to the Canada. Canada pretended to not allow the slaves in but wanted to swell its population. Many stayed in canada for there lifetime due to unracist attitude, in fact, I believe canada had the first black millionaire in 1850's, he was a former slave.

PS. Canada was a Crown Dominion, not a seperately country from the Empire or the Britain. Also, did you know that New Foundland very nearly became an independent country as it was a seperate dominion.

PSS. Please correct me if you can, as I am not great at North American history. My essays on the Great Depression and Roosevelt lay testament to that!

knowltok2
Apr 19, 2002, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by MrPresident

We had India and Africa for that. Also they gave us Tea and Spices. The only thing we got from America was a lot of trouble when we asked them to pay for their own defence, I mean what is up with "no tax without representation", a lot of us English didn't have representation in Parliament either.

You didn't have those colonies when you started. Also, what about cotton, tobacco, furs, and wood for your precious navy?

As for the last part: You get what you deserve when you send all the criminals, agitators, religious nuts, and adventurers to a vast land with plenty of resources. It wasn't our fault that all the meek people left in England couldn't get themselves representation. ;) [totally joking]

History_Buff
Apr 19, 2002, 11:26 AM
Actually, Hamlet was right, it was a trick question. African Slaves were never brought to Canda. I just wanted to see how many Americans knew Canada was a free place for everyone.

Sodak
Apr 19, 2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by redtom
It took the hicks/red necks/yankies to give it a rest in 1861(?) at the end of the American Civil War.

Actually, the yankees ended it decades before. That's the main reason the US civil war happened in the first place.

MrPresident
Apr 19, 2002, 12:22 PM
Also, what about cotton, tobacco, furs, and wood for your precious navy?
Fair enough, we need your cotton and tobacco. Wood and Fur could be gotten from Canada.
you send all the criminals, agitators, religious nuts, and adventurers to a vast land with plenty of resources.
We didn't send the religious nuts and adventurers, they went all by themselves. And most of the criminals went to Australia. However you certainly got a lot of agitators. ;)

Nahuixtelotzin
Apr 19, 2002, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by rmsharpe
I'm going to guess Europe, actually...

That's just because Europeans do everything bass-ackwards ;)

Right, that's maybe the explanation why the US abolished slavery decades after european nations did...:rolleyes:

EdwardTking
Apr 19, 2002, 01:44 PM
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Fair enough, we need your cotton and tobacco. Wood and Fur could be gotten from Canada.
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"...need tobacco..." Nonsense. It is the number one serial killer!

Potatos however; healthy and wholesome.

knowltok2
Apr 19, 2002, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by MrPresident

Fair enough, we need your cotton and tobacco. Wood and Fur could be gotten from Canada.

We didn't send the religious nuts and adventurers, they went all by themselves. And most of the criminals went to Australia. However you certainly got a lot of agitators. ;)

Government policies wouldn't have had anything to do with the religious nuts leaving on their own would they? Georgia was a penal colony long before Australia was even discovered IIRC. But your points are taken.

Also don't forget that having a market for your finished goods was nice too.

cephyn
Apr 22, 2002, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Sodak

Actually, the yankees ended it decades before. That's the main reason the US civil war happened in the first place.

not quite....Lincoln never intended to free the slaves at the start of the civil war. the civil war 'happened' for many reasons, with slavery as an issue, but not for the sake of slavery itself. the South was losing political power in the government, and feared federal intervention into states rights. As it became more and more apparent that their rights would be infringed upon by the more powerful North, they began to test it by seceding.

the final straw was when Lincoln was elected president of the US, even though in the South he got ZERO votes. He wasn't even on the ballot in the Southern States. He was elected entirely by the North. The Southern vote was split between 3 different candidates, none of them Lincoln.

The South, outraged and realizing the trouble they were in for, started seceding, even though Lincoln, in his inagural address, said he supported a Constitutional Amendment protecting the right of the Southern States to own slaves for the duration of the existence of the United States.

Also, remember that in 1863, the Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves ONLY in states which were "in rebellion" -- the Upper South states, where slavery was legal but fighting on the side of the North/Union, those slaves were NOT freed until the 13th amendment to the Constitution in 1865.

Civil War a war over state's rights. Not slavery.

Alcibiaties of Athenae
Apr 22, 2002, 06:14 PM
I don't like this kind of troll, this is a history forum.

If this is repeated, trying to "find out" what people know, the poster will find out how little patience I have.