They're available at MacGameFiles (and presumably at Aspyr.com)

Mac Civ4 Rev C (http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=19218)

Mac Warlords Rev B (http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=19396)

They're available at MacGameFiles (and presumably at Aspyr.com)

Found them at MacGameFiles, but not at Aspyr. They'll probably be the last to find out ;)

Both installers indicate they fix sound issues from the previous versions. No other fixes or changes are mentioned.

They're available at MacGameFiles (and presumably at Aspyr.com)

Anyone made the leap yet? Let me know. My wife bought me Warlords for Valentine's day (yes she is the best) and I have been playing it sans patch and sans troubles so far...

I've only tested the Civ4 vanilla Rev C patch. It runs OK (Mac Pro) and there may be more sounds now, though I've never really taken much notice of the sounds before.

If you go to the Aspyr site and hunt down the patches that they do have you end up with the latest patch. It says RevB for Civ and RevA for Warlords, but you end up at MacGameFiles getting RevC and RevB.

If you go to the Aspyr site and hunt down the patches that they do have you end up with the latest patch. It says RevB for Civ and RevA for Warlords, but you end up at MacGameFiles getting RevC and RevB.

First-class operation, huh? :rolleyes:

There seem to be a number of negative comments on macgamefiles, but I'm not quite sure how to take some of them. I've downloaded, but I might wait until after I finish this GOTM to update. I play with the sound off, anyway.

[LATER EDIT] I noticed the reviews are related to dissatisfaction with the earlier patches. I guess I'll jump in.

I'll keep an eye on this thread to see what the guinea pigs report. ;)

The only difference I see is that music now plays when zoomed out farther. Aside from that I haven't noticed anything.
(In RevC Vanilla, I don't have Warlords to check)

As I've mentioned before, I play with sounds off, so this patch didn't really affect me (I usually have iTunes on in the background). But the Vanilla game wasn't affected by any new bugs or problems that I could detect in a few hours.

I guess, in the spirit of community, I'm going to be forced to play a Warlords game now. Sigh. ;)

hey does ot fix the one problem were the terrain and map get all messed up?

hey does ot fix the one problem were the terrain and map get all messed up?

The only bug fix mentioned in the release notes is the sound problems from the previous patch. It looks as though all other bugs/features remain. For example, I see there are reports that the latest patches still crash on MacBooks, and therefore appear not to be compatible with Intel Integrated Graphics.

Silly question: Does one need to have applied the previous (flawed) patches before applying the latest ones in order for everything to work properly?

I never applied the flawed patches because, well, they were flawed. The sizes on these newest patches suggest that it's not necessary to have applied the flawed patches.

And if it's required to have the flawed patches applied before applying the newest ones, where can I find the older ones? Macgamefiles only links to the newest patches.

Gatekeeper

Aspyr's patches will update any previous version. So, no, you don't have to apply them in sequence.

One thing that I've noticed in Warlords RevB is that when a great person is born it says the city and the leader, instead of just their first initials. I mainly play at night when my toddler son is asleep not too far away, so I never have the sound up very high, so I don't really know if it has improved. It seemed to work pretty well on my 24" iMac anyway.

Sound bug fixed. So i'm happy with the patch (warlords). I didn't test Civ vanilla

Vanilla RevC still crashing on my MBP. I don't notice any sound differences, but I didn't notice any problems with RevB. For me this patch is a non-event.

Aspyr's patches will update any previous version. So, no, you don't have to apply them in sequence.

Good to hear. And, FWIW, I like how you used a lot fewer words to get across what I was trying to get across originally. :D

Gatekeeper

Major graphics issues on my iMac G5 with 5200U. Never had them before, but then I never grabbed anything past the first 1.61. System log files say "graphics chip error" every now and then.

The only bug fix mentioned in the release notes is the sound problems from the previous patch. It looks as though all other bugs/features remain. For example, I see there are reports that the latest patches still crash on MacBooks, and therefore appear not to be compatible with Intel Integrated Graphics.

I haven't noticed that crashes occur more often on my wife's MacBook than on my Mac Pro, so I don't think MacBook owners should feel singled out.

Are you saying that the RevB or RevC of Civ4 run OK on your wife's MacBook, and it isn't a MacBook Pro? Because so far Iv'e only seen reports that it crashes - instantly, not during a game.

Well, I just received what is probably my second or third kernel panic ever while playing Warlords, after about an hour of play. Research screen came up, and BAM! I'd send the log to Aspyr, but my PowerBook is unsupported. Other than that, patch seems to work fine. Maybe a little slower.

Are you saying that the RevB or RevC of Civ4 run OK on your wife's MacBook, and it isn't a MacBook Pro? Because so far Iv'e only seen reports that it crashes - instantly, not during a game.

Oops, I should have been clearer. I haven't tried the latest patches on the MacBook yet, just on the Mac Pro (not MacBook Pro). I was just noting that since I've owned the program, crashes have occurred at about the same rate on both machines.

it did not fix the terrain/imaging bug were everything gets messed up

It doesn't claim to fix anything except the sound problems that were introduced in the previous patch.

Add me to the list of MacBook owners who can no longer play the game. Anybody have a link to the previous patch. The sound bug didn't bother me too much, but no longer being able to use the program, well that does irk me a teensy bit.

I just wanted to express my gratitude to the people who worked on this patch. Those annoying sound bugs that have been plaguing me are all but disappeared, I can now properly hear every sound in the game, instead of static noises.

This greatly improved my enjoyment of the game.

Its funny, how important sound is to game enjoyment. You wouldn't think of it being importand until you notice the difference.

Well its now completely unplayable for me. It keeps on messing up the colouring after some many turns (yes every time~!). Did not have had that problem before. Actually, its starting to piz me off big time, because its not only this game that gets messed up after patches, although it fixes other things.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hope you are feeding these issues back to Aspyr. Don't assume they will fix anything just because you post it here.

Sound is there, but honestly I didn't notice an absence of sounds w/ the initial release. They did correct the text for GP announcements.

I hope you are feeding these issues back to Aspyr. Don't assume they will fix anything just because you post it here.

Nah, I dont bother anymore AlanH. It seems lately that the gameshouses forgot where they came from and are now only interested in taking our money.

dual G5 here and both vanilla and warlords seem to run fine.

Admittedly I'm running on underpowered hardware, but Rev. C has fixed the audio problems Rev. B introduced. I'm running on a Dual-1.42GHz Power Mac G4 (FW800) with an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. Sometimes the music stops, I think because the system or disk is a bit slow by todays standards. With Rev C vanilla is pretty playable, although opening a city is not as fast or smooth as I'd like.

Late in the game turns do slow down a bit more than I'd like, and jumping around to every unit seems to take longer, but I don't think it's unplayable at all.

In contrast, Warlords is much slower, although I haven't tried patch B for it yet.

My biggest complaint is that on my gorgeous 23" Apple Cinema display, I can't zoom out as much as I'd like without getting clouds. After all, I bought the display so I could see far in all directions. :-)

i think there is an option to turn clouds off

I hope you are feeding these issues back to Aspyr. Don't assume they will fix anything just because you post it here.

AlanH, whats the probability that the Blue Marble is the reason for the glitch?
Been in touch with Aspyr, but they dont recall earlier problems like mine.

I dunno if you remember, but in the Vanilla version there was a simular problem actually. Was there a solution provided then?

I've no idea whether BlueMarble could cause your colour problems, though I suspect it's unlikely.

Can you post a screenshot? Is this the strange video effects when you pan out to globe view? If so, I seem to recall that was caused by some video buffering problem, where the last leaderhead image was stored as a layer and superimposed in magnified form on the globe image, and I thought it had been fixed in a patch. Maybe it's specific to a video card and/or CPU/hardware config.

PS. You could eliminate BlueMarble from suspicion if you play without it, or you could try using the low res version of it. Does the colour effect disappear if you quit the game and relaunch?

I've no idea whether BlueMarble could cause your colour problems, though I suspect it's unlikely.

Can you post a screenshot? Is this the strange video effects when you pan out to globe view? If so, I seem to recall that was caused by some video buffering problem, where the last leaderhead image was stored as a layer and superimposed in magnified form on the globe image, and I thought it had been fixed in a patch. Maybe it's specific to a video card and/or CPU/hardware config.

PS. You could eliminate BlueMarble from suspicion if you play without it, or you could try using the low res version of it. Does the colour effect disappear if you quit the game and relaunch?


It occurs mostly after/during an autosave, but not nescesarry. When I zoom in and out, then it doesnt go away like the black frost thingy. The funny part is that I never had it like this before in the Vanilla version (ok, only twice) and the Warlords 1.0 version.

I'll be back..

This is what it appears to look like..
And mostly no, it doesnt go away, it stays or it comes back few turns after..

yeah. that doesn't just happen with blue marble, it happens all the freakin time!

yeah. that doesn't just happen with blue marble, it happens all the freakin time!


Huh? Never had it unitill the patches for Warlords, so explain please?

I think that I found the cause.

I turned off the High Detail Terrain option, and now the game runs as before, so consider it fixed I guess..

I'm one of those who never had any sound problems (except a weird one with the music which I've never seen reported by anyone else) under original release or Rev A, and then got them big-time under Rev B. I'll install Rev C when I get home tonight and let people know if it fixes the bugs :)

(anyone else in the same boat?)

Oh, if it matters, my system is a Quad G5 running 10.4.9.

EDIT: And it works fine. Full sounds, full animations, everything working, internet play working, no visual bugs, and even the weird thing with the music is fixed! Yay!

Heh. I wonder if having 10.4.9 helped, Bazzalisk?

Heh. I wonder if having 10.4.9 helped, Bazzalisk?

It is certainly possible. Still the patch says it clears up sound problems, and lo the sound problems (which appeared mysteriously in Rev B not having been there before) did clear up, so that I'll chalk up to the patch.

Still, the combination of Rev C and 10.4.9 seems to work well.

Good. Perhaps I'll finally get around to downloading and applying the Civ IV patches sometime this weekend.

I haven't had much time to play Civ IV lately and, combined with the issues some other posters have reported, that's made me a bit cautious about just blindly applying Aspyr's Civ IV patches.

Gatekeeper

yeah, i'm getting the same problem. I tried turning off the high-detail terrain, and it worked for about 15 mins.

here's a (crappy) video... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKCP8jyqms)

Hello, welcome. :wavey:

The link gives: "The video you have requested is not available. If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few minutes for the video to process."

Alan,
Any idea when we might see RevC (Warlords) and RevD (Vanilla)?

Hello, welcome. :wavey:

The link gives: "The video you have requested is not available. If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few minutes for the video to process."

it should be up now...

Alan,
Any idea when we might see RevC (Warlords) and RevD (Vanilla)?

What makes you think they are planned?

it should be up now...

What hardware and OS, and what Civ4 version are you running?

What hardware and OS, and what Civ4 version are you running?

i've got the newest patches, this happens to be warlords. it's on my 2.0ghz mbp with 2gb ram. this just started with the new patches.

Sounds like you need to contact Aspyr, then.

What makes you think they are planned?

Because too many people are reporting problems. Aspyr might want to stay in the Mac gaming business long term and to do that they have to offer enough perceived value to keep Mac gamers from just saying "Screw it, I'll just use Boot Camp from now on!"

yeah, i'm getting the same problem. I tried turning off the high-detail terrain, and it worked for about 15 mins.

here's a (crappy) video... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKCP8jyqms)


One has to start a new game actually, did you do that?

so i set all video settings back to default and it seemed to work... i made it 45 min with no problems (except for a horde of barbarians :D). I'll start turning settings back up one by one to isolate the problem.

I haven't seen anyone mention it yet:

I recently re-installed Civ4 and Warlords, after having removed it a couple of months back since I coulnd't patch it (macbook issues, see previous patches threads), and I was too busy anyway ;)

I reinstalled a fresh Civ4 and fresh Warlords and went straight to the newest patch, and lo and behold! Works great on my macbook :D A few videos seem to be a bit slower, but the game runs at the same speed as before, and I haven't experienced any crashes or graphical issues yet.

narmox.

Can anyone else verify this?

What's your spec narmox?

Can anyone else verify this?

What's your spec narmox?

CoreDuo Macbook 2GHz (not Core2duo, this is a model from June 2006)
2GB RAM
60GB harddrive

typical stuff, not the latest and greatest.

Narmox.

i've got the newest patches, this happens to be warlords. it's on my 2.0ghz mbp with 2gb ram. this just started with the new patches.

Macbook Pro 2.4 Ghz

Crashing constantly; sometimes on first load into a map. I sent the logs to Aspyr. Here's hoping.

I am going to go back to non-patched versions, see if that fixes anything.

From Aspyr:

At this time, we are aware of issues that occur on the new MacBook Pros with nVidia GeForce 8600 video cards. This machine was released a very short time ago, with a brand new video card, with a brand new type of chipset, to the Macintosh computer line, and is officially unsupported with all games at this time.
However, we are working to resolve this and to bring affected games up to speed. Though no timeframe is available right now, we hope to be able to provide full support to the new MacBook Pro in the near future.

Have a good day!

I installed the MBP update v1.0 yesterday and my issues with Civ 4 seem to have gone away....

The MBP update seems to have done the trick for me as well. Things are now running quite nicely on my MBP 2.2GHz.

Huzzah!!

What indication is there that a patch is installed (in particular, RevC for Vanilla)?

Highlight the application icon in Finder and select Get Info. If you have installed the current patches correctly, the version information should look like:

For vanilla: 1.61 (25318)

For Warlords: 2.08 (25430)

The numbers in brackets are the Aspyr build numbers, and they change when you patch the software.

Odd. I just ran the RevC installer, and I have version '1.61 (v9565)'. Any idea why?

That's rev A, if I recall correctly.

Where is your game software installed?

Use Spotlight to look for Civilization IV. My guess is that you may have moved your application, and the updater didn't correctly identify your installed copy. If so, it has created a new folder somewhere else on your hard drive with the correct Civ4 software in it, and Spotlight will find it. If so, you'll probably need to merge the contents of that folder into your working copy.

I copied the Civilization IV folder from the DVD to the Applications, which is pretty standard, I believe. I did, however, have a copy in the Trash, so it may have tried to update that. Weird. I'll reapply the patch after I finish my current game.

Thank you.

That's very similar to my experience, which is why I suggested this. I think the Trash copy may well have confused the updater.

The saved games are compatible, and since the updates are all version 1.61 they play the same. You could update and then continue your game.