Well, with the game being played at deity, its a pretty short list of awards this month.... we only had one person who was victorious!

So congratulations to Thorrez: A great effort! :thumbsup:

Congratulations, and thanks, to everyone who submitted a game this month though. We had 83 submissions, despite the difficulty. Its great to see people giving it a go, without worrying about whether they won or not.


Summary of Medal Winners:

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards/GoldMedal.gifhttp://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards/parchment.gifhttp://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards/cow.gifhttp://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards/purpleshield.gif Thorrez: 1664 AD Diplomatic Victory, 38,500 points.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards/greenambulance.gif B_A_V: 1770 AD Spaceship Loss, 5,572 points.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards/redambulance.gif Dumpfbacke: 2440 BC Conquest Loss, 168 points.


>> See the full results here (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/results/index.php?month=40015).
>> See the updated global rankings here (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/rankings/civ_global.php).
>> See the latest Pantheon of Heroes here (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/pantheon/index.php?table=civ_gotm_medals.php).
>> Award symbols are listed here (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/players/awards.php).

I am still so bummed that I lost my capital to a stupid barbarian archer with a 4% chance. :(

Congratulations to Thorrez. I hope to be up there with you, the next time.

Congrats to Thorrez! It's quite nice to win the gold medal and 3 awards at one time.:D

And I won my earliest peaceful loss award! Seems not something to brag about though.;)

Congratulations to the staff for a great game. And congratulations to the winners... I mean, to Thorrez The Great!

wow, congrats to Thorrez for a victory!

So when is the next deity game? :)

So when is the next deity game? :)
Not sure. I guess we should aim for one every 4 months or so (between warlords & vanilla).

Sounds good. :) Hopefully I'll be able to finish at least one of them. Harder games are more fun, but they also take more time then usual, and so far I failed to complete both the imoortal and the deity GOTMs due to lack of time. :( Maybe next time we should give 1.5 month like we did for the large map and marathon games?

hm...the diety game was one of the fastest games I've played lol

The only faster ones I've played are the ones where I won the red ambulance or came very close to it.

Congrats again to Thorrez! And to B_A_V and Dumpfbacke as well, our other medalists. :)

A couple of things I found interesting in the results: Four people suffered a Diplomatic loss. Only two games made it into the 1800s.

Thanks as always to the admins!

So when is the next deity game? :)

Y'know, I was going to post the exact same question. Word for word.

Not sure. I guess we should aim for one every 4 months or so (between warlords & vanilla).

Hmm. Am I right in suspecting that deity on Warlords is likely to be substantially harder than deity on Vanilla (due to the more intelligent AI)?

No culturial victories. I wonder if that should be a lesson learned for future diety game strategies that is when the Pryamids can't be built.

Wish Godotnut had played the game or would comment.

Just read Godotnut's post that he's taking a Civ LOA to work on a Phd dissertation. Says he went for a Quecha rush ... I don't think cultural was possible for this one.

No culturial victories
Duh, weally?
I'll tell you more:
No conquest victories
No domination victories
No spaceship victories
No time victories
:D

Just imagine if Thorrez hadn't submitted an entry...

I am still so bummed that I lost my capital to a stupid barbarian archer with a 4% chance. :(


Out of interest, how did you know the chance? I've never figured out how to get the game to show me the odds if I'm defending - only if I'm attacking.

Out of interest, how did you know the chance? I've never figured out how to get the game to show me the odds if I'm defending - only if I'm attacking.

Check the combat log :p

Upper left corner, select right tab

I learnt a lot despite being thrashed. I'm not averse to another Deity gae sometime.

The practice of coupling a warlords game with a vanillla game and taking the best result for a player each month can skew things a bit - like WOTM 5 and GOTM 15 being together. There's not too many on that list who have GOTM 15 as their best result. As one of those who has not bought Warlords, I don't have a choice. However this is not a complaint because no doubt there will be "swings and roundabouts" and there will be a WOTM of much greater difficulty than the equivalent GOTM I suppose. And yes, I could go buy Warlords ;)

Just read Godotnut's post that he's taking a Civ LOA to work on a Phd dissertation. Says he went for a Quecha rush ... I don't think cultural was possible for this one.

I definitely think cultural was possible. The timeline for the spaceship losses seems to give enough time. Of course, cultural deity wins always require some luck (the diplomatic elements can twist against you in ways that are not always controllable).

In looking at the global rankings, it doesn't appear that there are that many people who play and submit both the vanilla and Warlords game each month. There aren't even that many people who submit at least one game each month. Accordingly, I don't think the pairing of the GOTM and WOTM has the potential to "skew" the global rankings all that much.

Also, since, as I understand it, your global ranking score in any particular game is your Firaxis score expressed as a percentage of the highest Firaxis score (or your "speed" score if higher, which I still don't understand how that is calculated), all the pairing of the GOTM and WOTM does is improve your global ranking score if you played a better game relative to the highest score in one over the other.

It is true that, for the particular pairing of GOTM15 and WOTM5, the WOTM score was better for everyone who played both (at least on a quick look). That, however, is a function of Thorrez being the only player who managed a victory in GOTM15, which made the loss scores of everyone else small relative to his score. If Thorrez hadn't played or won, everyone else's global ranking score would have increased dramatically. For example, B.A.V.'s global ranking score would have gone from 14.473 to 100 and yvesb's score would have gone from 13.958 to 96.447. For WOTM5, there were many victories and no large Firaxis score gap between the top score and many of the players.

Duh, weally?
I'll tell you more:
No conquest victories
No domination victories
No spaceship victories
No time victories
:D
It weally was obvious early on there was only one viable VC and if I could have accepted that and executed well (as Thoraz did --> Congrats!) it was a very winnable diplomatic game. In hindsight I played a brilliant game.

I definitely think cultural was possible. The timeline for the spaceship losses seems to give enough time. Of course, cultural deity wins always require some luck (the diplomatic elements can twist against you in ways that are not always controllable).

I agree, the timeline seems reasonable (varies in the submissions from 1697AD to 1817AD or turn 369 to turn 427 for the AI to launch), but after the original submission (trying to win cultural) I tried 3 more times to win culturally and couldn't have won by turn 427 even unmolested. I'll be the first to admit that my games were suboptimal but I have to believe they were pretty good especially with my experience with the map. First time I tried diplomatic (ever) I won no problemo.

Cultural was definiyrly winnable. And if our huge continent and HindiRusi and islands were enough, domination also. Not space, I fear, and I seriously doubt about conquest.

An outstanding example of Diplomacy at its best. Congratulations to all who submitted. An extra congrats to Thorrez. I guess this is sort of a :spear: victory ha? :goodjob:

Thank you every one. Not to bad hoping for my first award and getting 4 :)

Congrats Thorrez, definitely a great game.

Cultural was definiyrly winnable. And if our huge continent and HindiRusi and islands were enough, domination also. Not space, I fear, and I seriously doubt about conquest.
If you and DaviddesJ think it’s possible I have to respect that … you guys have a lot more experience and knowledge than me. I cottaged, cathredaled, and GP Farmed my heart out 4 times trying the Godotnut approach and maybe could have won by turn 450 but that wasn’t good enough (the latest launch submitted was 427). My personal conclusion, for my skill level, is that without the Pyramids, on Deity level, cultural is out.

The big takeaway for me though was learning the power of the diplo option. I’ve never done it so it wasn’t even a consideration playing the game initially but after seeing Thorrez’s post in the final spoiler I gave it a shot and it was remarkably effective. It will definitely be a highly option for me in any future deity game. What was surprising was that I was able to get to Mass Media first and build the UN. That’s even though I didn’t get to Liberalism first, had to hack a cottage city out of the jungle and was playing against Gandhi. In other words, on deity level with less than ideal conditions and even playing against other UN hawks it’s very doable and maybe that’s something important to remember for future reference. I was never the tech leader but was able to branch away from the pack to MM first. The others weren’t far behind so you have to keep your foot on the gas but it seems like a fairly reliable approach given that the AI seems to tech in a pretty consistent way from game to game. Of coarse the UN is only half the battle but at least your hat is in the ring. In this case, especially with all the hindsight, it was obvious to avoid religion and all trades with Russia and Japan. That along with giving stuff away in the end gets you voted in. Actually avoiding religion and trading with unpopular civs (no matter how tempting) is something that has benefited me in subsequent games so that’s another lesson learned.