Hello Everyone, I am new to Civ3 and really like the idea of making our own units. I tried to make my own but I am not good with animations/graphics and gave up. If you are a unit mod maker, I have posted some kewl graphics that you can use to make mods, I got these off the internet, these were unit mods for the Western Front game. I am hoping someone that knows how to make mods can use these graphics to make some kewl units for Civ3. Please e-mail me at shramj@cox.net if you have any questions, I also found some kewl tank sounds, firing and moving ones. Please let me know if you are going to use these graphics, I would be curious as to how they work out for you. Later, Joe

Here is the zip file containing 6 different views of each of the units above. I know you need to have 8 different views in Civ3 but hopefully the resizing and adding the 2 other views will be easy since this zip has 6 views of each unit. Thanks, Joe

Awesome!!! I love them!!! And German units!!!:love: . It's just a pleasure to work on them, but I have to say that Kentonio would do the cutest work, because he creates awesome tank units.
Now I'm doing some airplane creations (a Heinkel He-111, and finishing Stainz's Avro Arrow), and I'm creating a Flammenwerfer, based in nonnob3's Waffen SS unit, and SpencerH's fire galley animation:).
But if no-one is interested in work on these vehicles you have post, I'll try to work on it (when I get less busy;)) for the Third Reich Creation Team:king:
bye!!!:goodjob:

(but now, I'll try the Jagdpanther...just awesome:eek: )

Ok, I've begin working on it. it's more difficult to do the E & W animations that I expected, so I'll create all the defaults animations, with shadows, without the E&W animations. I hope someone more experienced than me could finish the units;)
Now I'm finishing the Jagdpanther:cool:

http://suddenstrike.4players.de:1035/images/units/jagdpanther.gif ´
http://www.battletanks.com/images/Jadgpanther-3.jpg

Found a Few pics of the Jagdpanther


:eek:
http://members.tripod.com/~fingolfen/superheavy/superh.html
:eek:

Those are some cool graphics and I hope they are made as units, especially like the camouflage. Again welcome to civ3.:cool: :cool:

Ok, buddies. I've finished the default animation of the jagdpanther, without the E&W animations:(. I hope someone experienced could finish it.I'm glad to say that I've done a part of the work:).
Another day I'll do another unit, but now it's late, and I'm tired:p .
Hope it helps:

Awesome work Pablostuka, I e-mailed Kentonio about the images I posted above, hopefully he will be able to get some new units created for us. I think I will load the Western Front game and see if I can pull some graphics off of it, the game was kewl in the aspect that it had a ton of WWII units, maybe we can get some into Civ3. Also, can't wait until you get some planes out. I will post a zip file with some new sound effects that I found under your sound effect post. Later, Joe

I'm glad you liked it. I'll do the same work with the another vehicles you posted. I hope kentonio will be able to finish them, they look great!.
And it's a great idea to post more graphics from that game, maybe we are building an "unit Factory":p .
And if you have interesting sounds just post them in the sounds thread
Bye!!:king:

I attached a bunch in this one, I hope this helps, some of the units are the same but have different color schemes. Also, if someone can make a tiger using one of these pictures, they would rock! Later, Joe

I'm doing the same i did with the jagdpanther, with the Tiger. I hope someone could finish it :)

Im struggling for time quite badly, still got to finish the death.flc's for the Sherman and T34 and working long hours but if you post or email me what youve done so far Pablo I'll try and finish them off for you.

Kentonio

Kentonio. Thank you very much. I'll begin the work on that vehicles. I have seen all the units shramj posted, and they're very interesting (specially the Konigstiger, Stug III, Tiger elephant or the Kübelwagen), but I cannot do the work for ALL the units :crazyeye: :crazyeye: :crazyeye:
In the next hours I hope had finished another vehicle;)
bye!!:king:

Thanks guys. Hey Pablostuka here are some planes that you may like to use since you really like making the planes. When you guys learned how to make these mods, did you find something on the internet explaining how to make them? I will try again but I need some help so I can learn how to do it. I tried following the tutorial in the tutorial section but it didn't help me. Thanks, shramj

If someone can make the still images of the tiger tank, I will try to make the animation for it, how are you guys going to make the east and west views since they are missing? Also, if you have downloaded the images I attached above, does anyone know what the Up01020.BMP is? Is that one a Panzer tank?

Wooow, I love that planes, specially the P-38 Lightning;).
And the Up01020.bmp is a Königstiger (or king Tiger), a Panzer VI Tiger II, with a Porsche turret.It was the most powerful tank os the WW2, armed with a 88mm cannon, and a very heavy armor.
But I don't understand what is painted with desert camouflage.it was never used in the Africa campaign:confused:

I will see what I can do with the E & W views. It shouldn't be that difficult with the rest of the 6 direction ready.

Come to think of it, I started my Truck animation with only a black & white side profile photo. :lol: So this should be much easier than the Truck! :D

Expect something by tomorrow. ;)

Thanks, Dark Sheer!!!If you complete the default animation, I'll be able to do the attack & run animation (the death will be more difficult:rolleyes: ).

And if someone is interested, here is a list of all the armored vehicles pictures shramj posted:
German vehicles
Panzer III, Panzer IV, Panther, Jagdpanther, Tiger, Königstiger, Tiger Elephant, StuG III, Marder III, Mobelwagen IV (Flakpanzer), Sdkfz 7 (Transport vehicle & panzerjäger), Wespe, BMW motorbike with sidecar, kübelwagen, Opel Blitz & Mercedes Benz trucks, and Sdkfz 251 troop transport
American vehicles
M4Sherman (and firefly version), M-10 tank destroyer, Chafee, and 2 more vehicles, but I don't know their name:rolleyes: .

If someone is specially interested in one of these vehicles, just let us know.Maybe we can create the animation;)

Enjoy!!!:king:

A quick tweak with Animation Shop and then Paint Shop Pro and here is the result.

Sorry that I extended the number of frames to 10. I hate to see stationery vehicles so I make it shake a little. :p

Here is the animated gif of Default W and the flc for Default W is in the next post. All you need to do is to mirror image it for the E view. :)

Alternatively, if you don't like the movement, just copy the frist frame into your Storyboard file. :cool:

And here is the zipped flc file.

Dark sheer, you're a genius!!!!Now only I have to do a Mirror, and I'll have all the views!!!:cool:

And here is the Tiger tank default, without the E&W views. I hope Dark Sheer could finish the W view:goodjob:

You hate stationary vehicles, but doesn't is it the default animation?it represents the tank stopped;) Of course the run animation will have movement:rolleyes:
Keep up the good work!!

You guys rock, thanks for all the info on the tanks, you really know your stuff! If you want more vehicles, I have about 200 others, alot of them are just different paint schemes, etc but still alot. I also have some pictures of each tank that may work for the civpedia, etc. Let me know if you want them, if you want me to zip all the vehicles I have, I can e-mail them to you. Just e-mail me at shramj@cox.net and I will send them your way. Later, Joe

Ok, ok, so the tanks are stationery. ;)

Here is the West view of the Tiger, 5 frame, stationery.

Thanks a lot, Dark sheer.I'll do the animations;)

This is my first time posting here, have just been lurking previously.

I have been trying to do something similar by pulling the pictures from the Panzer General series out of thier .shp format and putting them into Civ3. (all because I can't stand the panzer graphics and wanted to replace it with a nice looking pzkwIVF2 - numerically most promenent german tank) I am having a problem involving the palet colors and end up with the Panzer General pictures looking like a tinted gray scale. Could any one help me out with how I carry over the colors?

The Panzer General series has a HUGE amount of items available from almost all of the vehicles from WWII for all of the powers including many ships and planes (basically any that were in the european theater) and many more available on line.

Thank You

Originally posted by nonnob3
I am in total shock!!!!! You guys are doing the entire THIRD REICH TANK ARMY!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
I am half way done with Fallschirmjager and also starting the German Cavalry "Reiter".
But, I can't wait for all these tanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
The BEST PART of the German Civilzation!
Keep up the great work guys.
(It's good to see DARK SHEER part of the THIRD REICH TEAM TOO! :yeah: )

Hehe, I am a lover of German Armor units so to speak. ;)

Hi again, buddies. I remember the day when nonnob3, Kentonio and me suggested the Third Reich Creation Team. The creation of a thread could be a great idea, our team would have a site for it;).

Another thing...I'll be very busy until the 2nd week of May, so the Tiger & Jagdpanther animations will be stopped. If someone is interested in do the work, come on.I'm sure it will be great:).

Bye!!!!:king:

Love to join team, but as always my computer skills are severly lacking. But anything else I can do let me know. Just want to do my part to help all you unit creators!!:cool: :cool:

Hehe, I am a lover of German Armor units so to speak. Me to:D And looks good guys keep up the good work:goodjob:

Thanks I don't know if I can help and I don't know if I can make units(no 3d program thing:crazyeye: )I'll to get Paint shop pro soon;)

Originally posted by nonnob3
Ok:goodjob: !
First as new members of the Third Reich Team, just simply mark down below your posting : Member of THIRD REICH TEAM.

rommell77 : I can understand that your aren't great in computer skills, but how about CIVILOPEDIA RESEARCH!:D

If you can find nice info about all the tanks units, expect Tiger, Panther, Pershing (Because I have already posted them:) )
That would be great!


Can do man, glad I can help in this noble undertaking!!HeHe!:cool: :cool:

Just had to post picture of this bad boy! :cool: :cool:

How do you add photo's?i have some tank photo to add :D

I hope you can use this for a AA Gun I give you the Flakpanzer:D!!



C:\Flakpanzer.jpg










C:\Flakpanzer 2.jpg

Here's one more flakpanzer the Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind



C:\FLak panzer IV.jpg



P.S.there were only a few of these made

I Hope it's ok to post these tanks for yall to see if you want to make some of these :) . This one is a tank classed as a "Super heavy Tank) the Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus.




C:\super heavy tank.jpg

A German units thread would be great! Now only if someone would also work on some Ally units. ;)

I will start the thread later today. (In a hurry to go out now :D )

if ur gonna add the maus you better give it 1/1000000000000000000000000000th of a movement point...

WELCOME to all the new members.Just remember to write in your signature "Member of the THIRD REICH TEAM in red color;).
To rommel77.Thanks for joining the team.With your work in the Heinkel He-111 civilopedia entry, I'm sure you will do a great work;).
To Dark Sheer: We'd be very glad if you acceded to join the team.
Bye, buddies!!!!:king:

Buddies, i have a suggestion to Dark Sheer. What about the creation of 2 threads, one for the THIRD REICH TEAM and another for the ALLIED TEAM (If someone is interested in the creation of it). In these threads people could post their unit previews, links to threads, webpages...etc, discuss unit creation, and post an index of all units of the teams. I'm sure it's a good idea the team work, for the German and Allied units. All Civfanatics and WW2 fanatics would be very happy becoming a member of these teams.
Post your opinion here, please.
And again, sorry about my English;)
Bye!!!!!!!:king:

It's Shrammy here again, maybe this picture will help with all your attacks and death animations.

Ah ha! Brilliant!
I am back from holiday and the first thing I see is the Explosion gif.
Finaly I will be able to finish all my units properly. (Manual drawing of animation takes too long, so I have only been doing 3D design so far. None of my units have a proper death animation)
So look out for the Exploding death pack Coming soon for those few units I have already finished, and the iminent arrival of several new units.

Enjoy!! :)

A German units thread would be great! Now only if someone would also work on some Ally units.

Well I just have half the death.flc left to do on the T34 and Sherman. Trouble is finding the time to finish it as things are very hectic right now. Also its not NEARLY as much fun as making German tanks :)

Kentonio

Keep up the good work, kentonio.I'm really waiting your T-34!:cool: .
And what do you think about creating new tank units using shramj's western front graphics?I've already done 2 default animations (with the aid of Dark Sheer;) ).I'm sure you're the most appropiated person to do this work (when you have time, of course).
Bye!!!!:king:

Is it ok for me to put photos on german tanks you may want to make? I was just looking for good sites for stuff of german tanks and I saw some cool tanks and thought I'd post them in case yall see some yall may want to make.



P.S. Can yall see photos I posted?:)

1)PC Commander we can't see your attached pictures!!
PS: Check out Feldgrau.com its awesome!!!

2)Opinion on having separate Allied and German threads is good. Easier for people not involved in project to find what their looking for and or vice versa.

3)How do I make Third Reich Team appear in red?? I feel left out!LOL!

4)I will be glad to volunteer to do civilopedia entries and finding info for units so you unit creators can have more time to work on the units. Just started 2nd job(Yeah I can work more! DOH!) so be patient please. Later!!:cool: :cool:

again here the Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus its big but slow.

The Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind.


P.S. I have more if yall want me to post them. just trying to help:)And how do I delete may old post?

Thanks I found this cool site with some germen tanks I've never seen:crazyeye:.Should I post one I found it's like a Howitzer Tank?

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/sttig_2.jpg

The Perfect Howitzer for the Industrial Ages

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/sttig.htm
:egypt:

And Everybody who thinks Panzer Maus is Big ..
Dodge This : http://www.achtungpanzer.com/p1000.htm :eek:

Hmm the Maus.. I drew one of those a long time ago for a Sudden Strike fake screenshot. Might look at making it into a unit is anyone thinks its worth it.

Kentonio

very good!!it could be difficult to make a Civ3 unit with this screenshot? Kentonio, you're the master of armored vehicles.Maybe you can do the work:goodjob:

However as I was the one who made the false screenshot I am also the one with the original unit drawings :)

I'll look at making it into a unit as soon as I can.

Kentonio

Thanks!!I'm sure it will be a great unit:cool:

I like the shot of the MAUS. I hope you realise you are going to have to make it BIG.
I don't know about you guys, but isn't a third riech team a little politicaly incorrect? (And please no mor Zeig hiel, you guys will get us shot!:lol:) How about AXIS and ALLIES , like in the return to castle wolfenstien.
Any way, on a different note, the germans used a pair of gigantic seige mortars for operation barbarosa named KARL and something else (FREDRICH?) I forget. But those would make a great unit, for both a WWII scenario and general Civ III games, I don't have any pictures, but they featured in captain nemo and Alex's Red fromt scenaro for Civ II.
I am working on a giant tank for the Soviets the T35! multiple turrets, and a weight around the same as the Tiger II
here is a picture (I know this is a german thread, but it is for comparison!);

I like the shot of the MAUS. I hope you realise you are going to have to make it BIG.
I don't know about you guys, but isn't a third reich team a little politicaly incorrect? (And please no mor Zeig hiel, you guys will get us shot!) How about AXIS and ALLIES , like in the return to castle wolfenstien.
Any way, on a different note, the germans used a pair of gigantic seige mortars for operation barbarosa named KARL and something else (FREDRICH?) I forget. But those would make a great unit, for both a WWII scenario and general Civ III games, I don't have any pictures, but they featured in captain nemo and Alex's Red fromt scenaro for Civ II.
I am working on a giant tank for the Soviets the T35! multiple turrets, and a weight around the same as the Tiger II, It was admitedly an interwar project a final progression of the giant WWI tanks (looks like a battleship!)
here is a picture (I know this is a german thread, but it is for comparison!);

I think we can live with a little political incorrectness, I really hate all that crap, its like people fought wars to allow us freedom of speech and then the liberals try and tell us we cant use half the words we have. Pah! :)

Erm.. sorry bout that :)

Kentonio

I'm not worried about the Team's name.Call it Axis team, Third reich team, German unit team...etc.We only are people fascinated about german weaponry, and of course, Civ III. We are not nazi fanatics, or something like that.And I was the one suggested the creation of an Allied Team too. I only want to make Civ3 unit's greater, that's the reason of the team, to make great units, for the most technologically advanced country in WW2:rolleyes: .
Smoking mirror, you are doing great soviet units...I'm waiting your Churchill too. Why not do you create an Allied Team?;)
keep up the good work:goodjob:

great idea, buddy!!

Take a look at this post for some kewl graphics of WWII vehicles. Shramj! http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21856

i got a qn . during WWii, are the German tanks like the panzer more efficient anfd powerful than British, French or Soviet tanks?

Well, it depends on the time period.

At the beginning of the war, German panzer were lightly armed, and lightly armored. Don't forget that the Versailles treaty forbade Germany to have a real army. So German tankists trained with wooden structure on top of bicyles...

The early panzer I and II were not so good as French tanks. The French B1 for instance had an armor that was almost unpenetrable to German shells, and a 75mm gun. However, the French lacked the tactics to use tanks efficiently (except a certain General De Gaulles), and their tanks had a major drawback : the "one man turret". The tank officer was also the gunner, the reloader, etc. He had to much job to do under stress.

Russian early tanks were not very good, and English were better than German : in North Afrika, Rommel's tanks were unable to destroy English tanks, until Rommel decided to use is 88 mm AA gun against the British.

Then, German Panzer III and IV where a bit better than Russian tanks, until the Russian came with the T34, and his improvment. The German answer was the Panther and the Tiger.
These 2 tanks were far better than the other : stronger armor, better gun... They could destroy almost any other tank in one shot, and were extremely hard to kill. The main default of the Panther was it suspension, to complex and hard to maintain.
The latter Russian tanks, like the Iosef Staline II and III, were able to stand face to face with the German (except the KingTiger).

About the American now. There early tanks where not very good (except against the Japanase, which were even worse). The Sherman line was a good medium tank, reliable and with some inovation (like the first gyrostabilizer), but lack the armor and the firepower to match the German. In Normandy, the kill ratio was 5 Sherman for a Panther. The latest American tank, like the Pershing, arrived a bit to late. But as the American had more tanks than the German had shells, and they ruled the sky, their tanks inferiority was not that important.

In which way more efficient ?? Like in reality or how ??

German tanks are far better than the standart tanks of French, Russians etc. for one reason: With a standard tank, you can perhaps attack once or twice in a turn, with German tanks usually twice or even thrice (when fighting on grassland or plains, that is). The one additional movement point is also quite convenient when moving through foreign terrain. Though this special unit comes quite late in the game, I think the Germans are a good civ to play, first becaus of the special unit and second because they're good for early wars (one tech away from iron working and get fast veteran units). :) :) So choose the Germans and kick ass! :D :nuke: :D

Great.

At the beginning of the war in 1941, germany's mechanized army was mainly comprised of Panzer III's. Though its predescessors were both lightly armored and armed, the majority of german tanks were Panzer III's which had 20mm armor and a 50mm gun. After initial aggressions past the magniot line, the panzers were bolted with 10 extra mm of armor to make 30mm of armor. These tanks were freightengly fast for their armament and armor and proved to be the best tanks in the field at the time. It wasn't that their gun was the biggest, but had surprising velocity, which proved to penetrate better.

Panzer IV's had already begun construction before the invasion of France. These were less effective agains't tanks. Though armored with 50mm of armor and armed with a 75mm gun. The initial armament had a very short cannon which provided very little velocity. These tanks were better suited for anti infantry operations at the beginning of the war. When equipped with an extended barrel for its 75mm cannon, they proved devestating to allied tanks.

Though the germans did field Panzer I, and II, as well as Pz38's their numbers were significantly lower. the figuers I have obtained are thus

1941 Tank numbers
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Panzer I - 365
Panzer II - 245
Pz38 - 546
Panzer III - 1024
Panzer IV - 212


The French started with few good tanks. They mainly fielded the the S35, Renault 35, and the Char B1 Bis. All proved ineffective against the germans. This was for multiple reasons. The most prominent one was the French tactics of tnaks. They tended to field one tank grouped with a large amount of infantry in sweeping lines. Instead of the formation tactics of the germans, French tanks were easily overwhelmed. The Char was a very durable tank but lacked speed and a the proper armament to engage panzers. PAnzer commanders hated the Char because it often required up to 10 solid hits to peirce the armor properlly. The S35 was a good match for the panzer but lacked the same speed, and the R35 was an easy target. France had far less tanks then germany which was also a large contributer.

Britians main problem was their established numbers in France at the time of the invasion. Britian liked to arm their tanks with larger guns, and very little armor. Though these tanks were excellent on the offensive, they often were overwhelmed because it was a one shot one kill for german tankers. The MkIV Cruiser was the main tank fielded in France at the time of invasion. It was armored with only 10mm at the time and fell easy prey to surprise attacks by Panzer spear head lines. The only other tank in France at the time was the Matilda, which was very similier to the French Char, except a larger armament. Though it lacked the 75mm artillery bombardment gun of the Char it still proved to be very durable tank. However, like the French, the Enlish Matilda were few in numbers and were often overwhelmed by larger groups.

Just wanted to state this because of the possibility that some may have thought the Germans were lucky at the start of the war, when infact they had superior numbers and weapons compared ot their Western counterparts.

long time civ plaver, new to civfanatics forums.

This might have been said already, but look the pacific general, and panzer general series of games, lots o' stuff :D

Originally posted by Scipio Africanu
At the beginning of the war in 1941, germany's mechanized army was mainly comprised of Panzer III's.


Just a reminder: the war started in 1939, not 1941. The US may have started it only in 1942 (Pearl Harbor was on the 7th of december, so 1941 does not really count), but Poland was september 1939, and the campaign of France was in may 1940.

So your 1941 figure are not very relevent for the comparison of Germany and France. I agree with you on the other points, like difference of tactics.

Originally posted by will_777
long time civ plaver, new to civfanatics forums.

This might have been said already, but look the pacific general, and panzer general series of games, lots o' stuff :D

Nice helm,
will_777!

I was recently trolling for sites about WWII and found this....it's a site alot of people here might be familiar with but this quote just had to be posted here I thought.

"One day a Tiger Royal tank got within 150 yards of my tank and knocked me out. Five of our tanks opened up on him from ranges of 200 to 600 yards and got five or six hits on the front of the Tiger. They all just glanced off and the Tiger backed off and got away. If we had a tank like Tiger, we would all be home today." - Report by tank commander Sergeant Clyde D. Brunson from 2nd Armored Division, 1945.
:eek:

:rolleyes: Achtung Panzer! (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz5.htm)

That is a good website! Man, I can't believe I started this post of the Unit Graphic forum without Zulu busting me up :), i should have started it under just the Creation & Customization Forum. Later, Shramj