It's rather common to have multi-national events that rotate through several countries. World's Fair, the Olympics (already represented, I know), the World Cup, etc. What if, after any civ discovers NNationalism, there is a Golden Age given at random to one of the civilizations for hosting the world event every 15-20 turns?

a GA every 15-20 turns? how many civs would get a chance? (how many turns to a game?)

I like this :) a FIFA world cup wouldn't hurt anybody...

One thing: The First Olympics were in the XX century, right? but in game it starts about 1700... too early in my opinion.

Giving a Golden Age seems quite drastic. I haven't noticed either Greece or Italy launching into huge productivity boosts since they hosted the Olympics recently.

Yeah... the power is within the World Cup! :) makes all your citizens happy...

What about:

When you are hosting a world event you all cities are in the "We Love Our Leader Day" condition...

a GA every 15-20 turns? how many civs would get a chance? (how many turns to a game?)

Giving a Golden Age seems quite drastic. I haven't noticed either Greece or Italy launching into huge productivity boosts since they hosted the Olympics recently.

Well, they are required to meet minimum standards for venues. Stadiums, roads, hotels, etc. So, in a sense, they do fund a large amount of production by way of construction. Not to mention the surge in tourism.

I figure the eligibility formula should be akin to this for sports:

1. Must have contact with the score leader.
2. Must have at least 3 Amphitheaters.
3. Every city must be connected in your trade network.
4. Must control at least 4 Mountain tiles.
5. Must have an ocean city.

It could also come from the World's Fair angle:


1. Must have contact with the score leader.
2. Must have at least 3 Theaters, 1 University and 1 Observatory
3. Every city must be connected in your trade network.

Everyone at war with the civ is forced to declare peace.

What about having the Wembley Resource? ^^"

Wembley kind of represent all the "mass sports" that arrive with the Industrial Revolution...


"Everyone at war with the civ is forced to declare peace."

Don't like this, what about: "There isn't any Games while at war"

When you are hosting a world event you all cities are in the "We Love Our Leader Day" condition...

I don't know much about the effects of "We love the leader" days, but I like the idea.

I thing you don't pay the Maintenence of the city... but it has others effects =P that i don't know :)

Fifa world cup is actually more a golden month for the host, rather than a golden age. The winner can have a golden year.

Didnt the Olypics start in anciant greece? rather than the 20th century?

=P put back them it wasn't something that moved all the world to watch it and participate... ( at least a good amount of the population, i don't watch Olympics >_< )

I wish London'd never got the Olympics tbh. Too much money for a sporting event :(

Think of what could be done if we invested that money in the health service, say, or used it to improve the situation in Africa.

fair point

I wish London'd never got the Olympics tbh. Too much money for a sporting event :(

Think of what could be done if we invested that money in the health service, say, or used it to improve the situation in Brazil.


:mischief:

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What the Holland?!

I wish London'd never got the Olympics tbh. Too much money for a sporting event

Think of what could be done if we invested that money in the health service, say, or used it to improve the situation in Africa.

I want it in Poland- it cost much but tourists are great for economy ;)

ha ha, Britain'll probably have a Great Depression :lol:

I wish London'd never got the Olympics tbh. Too much money for a sporting event

I agree, especially with the govt's brilliant £12 billion plan to install an NHS IT system nobody wants.

We didnt even want the Olypics untill we heard that the french were going to get it...

heh, it would have been better to let them have it. Then THEY would be in financial crisis :p

I like the idea of "world events". For instance, after the prerequisite technology for Olympic Park (I presently don't remember what that is) is discovered, a random civilization each 10 turns or so gets the possibility to hold the Olympic Games. Other than setting off a golden age, this could perhaps provide the host civilization with a +1 bonus of the "hit sport event" resource and additional trade routes (representing the deals struck with foreign dignitaries visiting the country). It could perhaps also improve relations between civilizations a bit (for instance "+1 our common interest in sports brings us closer together", although considering the German-English football rivalry, there could also be a malus ;)). Alternately to being decided randomly, the host civilization could be elected based on foreign relations (akin to the congress model), thus rewarding diplomatic players a little bit. Similarly, a World Fair could boost trade or provide a technology boost. Of course, the :hammers: costs would have to be set accordingly, as to not overpower these world events.

although considering the German-English football rivalry, there could also be a malus ;)).

Maybe we can have a 10% chance of a riot in the biggest city of the host civ? Y'know, after-game brawl or something, hehe :mischief:

I would prefer a simpler approach: give whoever hosts the event a lump sump of gold to reflect tourism income. Think of it as a miniature great merchant.

Make National Wonders called <Nation's> Football Team. Once there are 4+ teams in contact with one another the World Cup is randomly hosted by a nation with a national team. The World Cup happens every 10 turns. The host receives a lump sum of gold.

To build the Football Team you must have 3 amphitheatres and have researched Nationalism.

I would prefer a simpler approach: give whoever hosts the event a lump sump of gold to reflect tourism income. Think of it as a miniature great merchant.

But you have to pay billions (literally) of pounds to host the Olympics...

Stadiums etc.

But you have to pay billions (literally) of pounds to host the Olympics...

Stadiums etc.

So make the lump sum a percentage of whatever gold you currently have, to reflect that those with more money to spend can host a more impressive event.

hrmmm

I'd say there should be a chance that the games is an ecomomic disaster. Maybe, 70% chance of a profit, 30% chance of a loss?

EDIT:
or, here's a better idea, in order to take part you must build an "Olympic Stadium" national wonder which takes money for maintenance but increases your civ's happiness. Then, if you get to host the games, the Stadium starts to pay back for the maintenence in one big lump sum.

I like the World's Fair idea, but I see it more of a National Wonder. There are World's Fair installations in many countries. Or we could make it a World Wonder and use it as a modern Oracle, giving a free tech.The World Cup and the Olympics are done each 4 years, what mades it an event each 2 turns! It's silly! But it could be added a new world wonder: Olympic International Comittee. The effect would be +50% of profit from trade routes that city, +2 :gp: for a great merchant, and maybe +4 :culture:. I don't like routine events since they mean high number of calculations, what's the same as slower mod.

If they would be more routine events, I would like more important ones, like religious conciliums, something I'll start to work on the next week, for a Modcomp (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=210417&page=7).

I'd say there should be a chance that the games is an ecomomic disaster. Maybe, 70% chance of a profit, 30% chance of a loss?

I thought that the Olympics were notorious for rarely making the host city an overall profit. Isn't Atlanta/1996 (with it's heavy commercialisation) meant to be the only real 'success' in this field?

Okay, I stand corrected *doesn't know much about the history of the Olympic games*

Just swap those two values round then.

My experiences have been the legacy of the LA games of 1984 and the Atlanta games. Both made the city money and the attention Orange County received during the games is partly to blame for the area's ballooning population. So I guess I'm just another American living in the bubble.

Post Atlanta, hosting the Olympics has been a wash, especially for Greece. I got to see one of the empty stadiums being used as hobo central when I visited.

Barcelona Olympics in 1992 meant a huge profit for the city, as well as several other surrounding cities hosting certain related events. However, World's Fair of Sevilla in the same year resulted in a huge loss, because of dark movements of money, and a big frud on contracts to build the infrastructure. And Madrid's attempt to host next Olympics failed, resulting in the loss of even more money, as well as all the little prestige the Mayor had, because he started all the work "because he was very sure to win". Now he's called the "Madrid's Pharaoh", thanks to all the works half done, and now abandoned, and because of making the city a huge gymkhana. So I'm unsure about if these events are really profitable.

Maybe we can make a new Wonder called "Olympics" and another one called "World's Fair", that gets obsolete in a certain amount of time (10 turns?). So, if you loose the race to build it, you'll win certain cash (the value of production), but you have lose your time. Maybe some temporary :mad: faces may be added, as "We don't like your mad projects". This may extended to any wonder, I guess.

EDIT: to make realistic the high requirements the Comittees that chooses the city stablishes (the UN one for the World's Fair, and the Olympic one for the Olympics), maybe only the top 5 cities of the world may be able to build the wonders. This will replace the requirements you mentioned before. So getting the Olympics will be increasingly difficult, as it appears to be in real world. The effect should be a lump sum, provided by some formulae that takes into consideration your score (the higher the better), your current gold (the higher the better), and maybe level of approval (the lesser, the worst), as well as a random factor (you know, there has been certain Olympics that resulted very bad because of terrorism -Munich 1972-, political situation -LA 1984? The one that USSR didn't come; Berlin 1936; Rome 1940 [not celebrated because of war, but money spent uselessly]).

EDIT 2: Rome 1940 was a World's Fair, not Olympic Games. But the idea is the same.