Hmmm... fully civ coloured.

I think I could do that - but with one "ill" - I'll have to work a bit with the purity shields - that red mixed with blue spells disaster :)

But Maybe I'll just but a brown ring around the red seal... or something like that.

Here's a preview of the civ-coloured venerable.

Its awesome! You are awesome! Plasma coils shine bright blue (altho some insist that its green), can you make that special effect?

This could be your best unit yet, Aaglo. Congratulations :D

Its awesome! You are awesome! Plasma coils shine bright blue (altho some insist that its green), can you make that special effect?

Since blue is civ-colour, I'm thinking: no, I think I can't make them shine bright blue. I could try somethign cyan though.

Couldn't you just make another civ colour than blue? Any colour can be used, it's just a matter of pallette.

Yah, I`m pretty sure there are other units with blue parts? But it could be green if its easier. The point is the plasma coils should be bright, its like a blast in a container :)

Perhaps ave green as the civcolour, that'll leave blue available for the plasma coils :)

The most useful civ-colours are blue, cyan and red - others tend to be used a lot in other parts of the unit. Like in this unit:
- yellow is out of the question, because of lot of the golden colours used.
- blue is out of the question, because the plasma coil colour gets mixed up with the civ-colour
- green is out of the question, because that's one of the transparency colours
- red is out of the question, because it does not work well with blue. Really.
- cyan is in the borderline of usable, because it's closely related to blue.
- I really wouldn't go on using any mixed colours, because they are very hard to keep in check.

And palette-magic is a bit difficult to do, since I render these units as whole - I cannot determine the exact palette colours on units, since pigment textures of the unit may have strange effects. So I cannot pre-determine certain areas to use colours only from certain palettes.

So screw you very much :p - it seems like this plasma is going to be glowing yellow :p

What about just having a civ coloured blast. Wouldn't that be kinda cool?

I think that while the civ-coloured blast could look cool, it propably would not that much - according to my experiences, transparencies with civ-colour are impossible (since I always use transparencies in my blasts). Besides, darker civ-colours could look ugly. :)

Well, this is the best I could do right now - cyan glow :) .

That glow looks great! I hope it doesn't mess with the civ colour much!

It shouldn't much - atleast on civ-scale. I made quite a lot of cyanish indexes to the palette, that it should not become a problem. I also tested with other unit palettes I have, and it seems to work ok.

Dude. You make such wondefull, impossible things. I`d so buy you a case of beer right now.

The plasma coils are great, and the glow.. they fuggin glow! They cast light on the torso!

Great job Aalgo! It looks awesome!

This could be your best unit yet, Aaglo. Congratulations :D

I think Varw is right. This will truly be a masterpiece. Thank you, man.

Fantastic! :D

About why the venerable dread is available only to space wolfs: maybe it has something to do witht the Bjorn the Fell-Handed, who is the oldest dreadnought still in service, and he is - you may already guessed it- a space wolf.

Good point. Altho I`d rather give them SW scouts as UU`s (Wolfen seem a bit extreme), since they have "professional" grizzled scouts, while in other chapters the recruits are used for scouting, and then they move on.

That way the players get to see more of your ubelivable creation :)

On dreads, I read from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnought_(Warhammer_40,000)
that dark angels have their own speciality dread also - a mortis dreadnought - with ranged weapons only... like this one:
http://www.minivault.com/images/DWDreadLob.JPG

Since while I'm at it, this would not be too much of a problem to make... :)

I am reading the first post list and some things are confusing me:
Why don`t the SW devastators use missiles?
And how come only DA devastators use Plasma Cannons?

I`d suggest that Templar infantry have an extra HP since they are by far the most numerous chapter, and their squads can number up to 20 marines instead of 10.

I agree about the DA Dread, atleast its really unique, like the Furioso is.

Well Devastators are armed with various heavy weapons, so I guess it's just to mix things up a bit isn't it?

But we don`t have a Plasma Cannon Dev. Some chapters could have the Missile one, and the others could have the Heavy Bolter one. We even have 2 kinds of Heavy Bolters.

That would be cool. I can't pull up the link for some reason, but that sounds right. I think it also lisnted an Aegis(Psycannon) dread for the GK's and a Hellfire Dread fot the Ultra's(close combat replaced with a missle launcher). Does that sound right Stromy'Quizy... I could be wrong. I am not by any means saying that you would be doinf them Aalgo.

Stormy have you seen the Dreads on Coolmiiniornot.com?
http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics11/img45742025a605b.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7466/dread3uc3.jpg
The Nordic helmet/mask is an interesting idea, and the Runes are a nice touch.

Sorry I didn't know they were going to be that big. Not trying to clutter the thread.

Yup, that's right too :)
Those'd be awesome :D But only if they're not too much trouble.
You'd have to go into all sorts of ones to make Chaos equally as varied though :mischief:

As much as I think they would be aswesome, I`d rather vote for completing the main unit lines before going for flavour..

I guess you have heard me say before these words: "while I'm at it..." :)

Believe me, it's easiest to do many of the similar types in one "go" :)

:D Well if your at it and are willing I say, "Go for it". I just don't think any of us want to see you get burnt out. The mod would lose one of its greatist contributors. I figure a couple extra units couldn't hurt right??

I think that I'll skip currently the Aegis and the hellfire dread though... unless I go crazy.

That sounds more than fair. I only brought those up as possible variations of armorment for the discussion.

So what are you going to make? Finish the VenDread and make the Mortis one?

I am reading the first post list and some things are confusing me:
Why don`t the SW devastators use missiles?
And how come only DA devastators use Plasma Cannons?

I`d suggest that Templar infantry have an extra HP since they are by far the most numerous chapter, and their squads can number up to 20 marines instead of 10.

I agree about the DA Dread, atleast its really unique, like the Furioso is.

There are two devastator units per SM faction: Heavy Bolter Devastator at Tactics and Missile Devastators at Support.

Now, saying that, im not sure why Gold made the SW not have Missile Devs, but i presume the plasma cannon was, as Quinzy said, to add some variation betweens the SMs

And a Mortis Dread would be cool :mischief:

Furioso is done (I'll post them all in a bunch).
Then I'll make a ven dred.
And I'll also see if I can make anything reasonable as the mortis dred... with twin-linked lascannons (because I think the las effects look pretty :) ).

Lascannons sound good :) A great find there with the Mortis Dread, aaglo!

This looks pretty good :)

Should the body be civ-coloured, or would you like to see it in deathwing-colours (the light beige sort of ... like the deathwing terminator modified by Lizzy)?

Also, other suggestions about this unit are welcome :) - like, if those barrels are too long or something :)

Deathwing colors would be nice. The barrels are fine.

Looks great! I think Deathwing colors.

Looking good! I seem to remember seeing a Deathwing Dreadnought somewhere, so that beige colour would be fine :)

Ok, how's this colour :) - I mean, is this too light/dark?
BTW, what were you thinking for the dark angels civ-colour? Dark green?

Yeah, Dark Green. Looks great, buddy!

Very cool. I that a marbling texture/effect you are using?

That's great! Colour looks like a good match too

Very cool. Is that a marbling texture/effect you are using?

To create the weathered surface? Yes, it's a sort of marbling texture.

To create the weathered surface? Yes, it's a sort of marbling texture.

Nice touch. It's those little touches that really make your units stand out(imo).

Just checked what the deathwing dread would look like in "realistic ligthing". I like it :lol:

Are you going to post the model at turbosquid and charge a ton of ca$h for it? :D

:cool: This just confirms that you have to be a robot.....:D

As a Dark Angels kinda guy, I gotta love this unit :goodjob:

Hey you, the person with the power (whoever that might be) - should I do other space marine dreads, or should I switch on making chaos dreads?

About the chaos dreads:
Oh boy, they're dreadful to make, with all the creepy-looking details and all that jazz... Also, should I make just one generic chaos dread - or should I be dreadingly asking wether you want a specific dread for all five chaos forces? Uhhh.... I am really intimidated by the nurgle chaos marines - that organic puss&tentacle-stuff is far from fun to model.

EDIT: three dreads have been posted: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=262630

As a part of the Unity with the power, I think that SM dreads are finished, and that you should start with the CSM dread (if that is easier for you, to just chaotify the SM dread). I think they should have a generic one, but again, I have to point out the Civ-coloring.

That they need to be civ-coloured? Of course. Or what did you mean...?

From Forgeworld website

World eaters dread:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/worldeaters2.jpg

Death guard dread:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/deathguard7.jpg

Emperor's children sonic dread:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/ecsonicdread4.jpg

Thousand sons dread:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/thousandsons1.jpg

Obviously, that would be awesome to have all those, plus a generic undivided chaos dread. But I think that's not going to happen. I think I'll just start with a generic one - with twin-linked autocannons and a close combat weapon (just like in world eaters dread).

But generally, I think there at forge world, the best looking chaos dreads are for black legion & iron warriors :)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/Blacklegionp1.jpg

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/ironwarriorsp1.jpg

Although a dread for each faction would be awesome, a single Chaos Dread is really all that is needed

And the SM dreads are done, cheers :)

Those are some masterpieces! now I wanna start with my Word Bearer Dread! :cry:

Here's a first look on the chaos dread. The colourings might be very off, but civ-colour is necessary.

The close-combat hand weapon is still undone (that stump is there just for a placeholder).

Suggestions, anyone?

I think its great! Grrrrrrreat!

For a CCW I suggest that you give him the Forge World Chainsaw, not Game Workshop`s stoopid claws, that looks awfull.

Looks good. I vote for the chainsaw also.

Heh... i just realized, that my request for suggestions was not in "correct place".

Of course I was going to make the chainfist as a close combat weapon. What I meant by the suggestions was on everything else - like the colouring & all that jazz :lol: - but I have an alternative idea on colouring already :)

All that jazz looks great to me! And I like the coloring, but I am also curious about what you had in mind..

Well, this is what I had in mind :) - as you can see, it's close to the iron warrior dread (I praised earlier) :)

Attached also a larger preview.

The thing is, those yellow & black stripes are distinctive IW marks, I`d rather go without them..

I'm not sure if they're solely used by IW. Lookie here :) - word bearers (altough only in the chainfist, but still).

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/dreadnoughts/wordbearers2.jpg

Besides, I like the striping. It's a warning colour "don't come any closer, or I'll run you through!" :devil:

I didn`t say its solely used by them, but its their favorite marking. Used by others, but rarely..

Looks great :)
Btw, are these robots? Or is there a human inside of them, in control?

they are like armed and armoured life-support machines. When a Space Marine Hero is wounded, and beyond salvation, sometimes he gets encased in a Dreadnought, and continues to live and fight.

So, this would suit better for all chaos marine chapter - without the black/yellow striping on the right side of the body?

Wait? It will be black, and the blue is civ-color?

that was the idea. You were thinking about something else - like civ-coloured hull and the trims shoudl be of different colour?

I like it how it is now :)

But now evey CSM civ will get a black Dread?

Looks about half black to me, at civ-scale it probably will anyway

But i wouldnt be opposed to more or all civ-colour, i just think that black is chaosy :)

Hmm.. if you guys are for it, then I agree.

Well, I think I could add a bit more civ-colour replacing the general dark greys... but I figured, that since these chaos dreads might be pretty old, and they're not like SM-dreads (dying soldiers willing to fight for the emperor), but rather dying soldiers gone totally insane, killing anything that moves - including friendly units... I guess nobody would be willing to fix the paint job on these guys, and most of the chapter colouring would have been chipped or burnt away... thus showing a lot of charred metal :mischief:

yeah, that's my explanation :)

Well, I think I could add a bit more civ-colour replacing the general dark greys... but I figured, that since these chaos dreads might be pretty old, and they're not like SM-dreads (dying soldiers willing to fight for the emperor), but rather dying soldiers gone totally insane, killing anything that moves - including friendly units... I guess nobody would be willing to fix the paint job on these guys, and most of the chapter colouring would have been chipped or burnt away... thus showing a lot of charred metal :mischief:

yeah, that's my explanation :)

LOL, OK, OK, nutcases without a paintjob, I can go with that , haha. :D

Nuts, cases... potaytoes - potahtoes ;)

and sorry 'bout the double-post. :)

Have you been on youtube to long? Boil'em mash'em stick em in stew?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_01rYKQLg&feature=related

The Chaos dread looks good. I think if you put any more iconography it will just get lost at civ scale.

That "boil'em, smash'em, stick'em in a stew" was pretty awful. thanks :rolleyes:
;) :p

Okay, back to business. Imperial guard business.

Here's a comissar with chainsword (yep, I used gaunt as a base - not yarrick with his orky powerclaw) - blue is civ-colour. The smaller preview pics are the game size - they're just about the same size as the civ3 infantryman.

What do you think? Suggestions? Would a power sword be better instead of that chainsword?

I think... it's perfect! Really, he's perfect!

I like the chainsword, he looks good as is.

That "boil'em, smash'em, stick'em in a stew" was pretty awful. thanks It was that. A buddy had sent it to me, and I had happily forgotten about it till I saw your post.:crazyeye:

I find it hilarious those things even have close-combat weapons. So just in case you get by the missiles, lasers and mini-gun -- he will chop you up with his chainsaw :crazyeye:

Yeah, nothing puts the message through like a good old blaster.
Well, except a big-ass chainsword :devil:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1668/1198091580734wt3.jpg

Maybe make the sword longer? It's kinda hard to see it in civ scale. If it was longer it would be more sword like. :)

I would have prefered a power sword, just looks more "officery". but the chainsword is fine, but it does need to be a bit longer.

And I think you should add some red to his uniform and hat. most of the commissars i have seen have red on them :) http://uk.games-workshop.com/imperialguard/miniature-gallery/4/

thanks for the chaos dread, btw :D

Well, I could make it a power sword if needed. Does it have to glow?

Well, gaunt's hat has only red trims - and I made the trims in civ-colour. Maybe I should make the hat in "red+black+gold". Yep, I'll try that and post new previews later.

The reason i said red is that Gaunt is a special character, and i think a generic commissar would be better, thats all :)

and the chainsword is fine, but could it be made more like these? i.e. extend the cover all the way along the top of the sword
http://uk.games-workshop.com/imperialguard/miniature-gallery/images/cadian-officers.gif

The one he has at the moment looks like an ork chainsword more than an imperial one

HAha, you got me - it is the ork nob's chainsword :lol:
Ok, I'll extend the cover, lenghten the blade and add some red to the hat.

I thought i'd seen it somewhere before ;) :D

Here's a preview of the comissar with slimmed down & elongated chainsword & recoloured hat

Much betta!

But aaglo, you were doing so well with vehicles and monstas, leave something for us (present and future) Poser artists ;)

Uhh... well, okay.
I was just thinking about finishing the IG-lines (comissar, psyker, guardsman & rough rider). I think that the psyker would be hardest for me to do (long robes & pov-ray don't get along very well with each other).

But... ummm. Okay. How about space marines and chaos marines? Will you poser artists make those too?

Well, what should I do next then... chaos fliers & boats I guess?

I think you could handle marines pretty good, they are bulky, Pov-Ray is great for that.

Also, muffins` models would be a dog`s mother to re-bone for Poser, or so I heard, and we have no props except some cartoony ones.

I heard some finnish unit maker around here always thought those Defilers would be a challenge to make :mischief:

That's an awesome Commissar!

Take on whatever you want man :) You seem to do everything perfectly! :D

That looks awesome!

Since I was requested not to do human units, here's a preview of hell blade - A chaos space marine fighter :)

That looks like an evil version of the Jedi starfighters from SW: Revenge of the Sith.

Perfect! :)

What LizardmenRule! said :)

Comissar is done: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=263810

Now onto working with those damn various vehicles. Natural choice would be the hell talon -bomber to go with the hell blade -fighter...

Here are WIPS of hell talon (=bigger bomber) & hell blade (=smaller fighter)

Looks great! I really like them :)

Any suggestions on the colouring? Should the bomber be a bit differently coloured to distinguish it better from the fighter?

Do you have some pics to compare it with models? I'm not so familiar with that one.

Hellblade fighter
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Chaos%20Aircraft/hellbladep1.jpg

Helltalon fighter-bomber:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/helltalonp3.jpg

I think they look different enough..

Maybe make one slightly darker if you want to differentiate them. otherwise i think they're fine :)

Maybe add another stripe of civcolour to the bomber :D

Could someone be so kind and start making these WH40k-units too. I need inspiration, conspiration, perspiration and anticipation to motivate me :)

Well.. I have a 10day vacation at the begining of March, thats when I`ll start tampering with Poser.. Not many units that Poser people can do, tho.

Our Bryce guy (we only have Quinn, right?) can handle some vehicles if the poor sod had any time on his hands.

One solution would be to open a request thread in the main C&C, with lotsa pictures, and we might get lucky.

However, you, my friend, since Orthanc is out of the game for some time, remain our only space-marine and monsta-alien source..

Never fear, in some parallel universe Ogedei and I have already created thousants of units. So the mod has been completed there ;)

I'm fiddling around with poser too, when i find the time :(

Perhaps you could send me some 'mad pov-ray skillz' :D ;)

I wouls most definitly do units if I could, but I have my final exams in 3 months, the exams that lay out if I get into college or not... So... Units after. Life first :)

Hey, don't feel bad about it. I was just checking, if there were anyone lurking and wanting to contribute (I mean, someone who hasn't come forth).

Anyhoo!
Here's updated previews of the hell talon & hell blade: I changed the textures a bit on both. That's not much, but it helps to distinguish them from each other a bit better.

I think.
No - that was wrong.
I think.

:thumbsup: :D

They are awesome, in all their awesomeness.. Thanks mate!

I would offer myself up, but it takes me long enough to produce units, anyway, and I've still got to do around 5 or so units for Partizanac.

what would you like to se me work with next?

Defiler perhaps? :D

That's not even remotely funny :)

Someone's gotta do it :mischief:

Any sort of Daemon, or a Chaos Marine?

You could try and finish the Space Marine lines: an Attack Bike, Librarian or Chaplain. or as stormy said, the lesser daemons or chaos marines would be good



or you could do the defiler :D

What's a defiler? It must be pretty bad or pretty hard... (Is it that slimeball - Greater demon of Nurgle?)

Teh Deffayla!

http://www.joysf.com/zboard/icon/member_image_box/21565/chaos-defiler.jpg

No, a defiler is:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/chaosspacemarines/miniature-gallery/images/CSM_defiler_lg.jpg

Ah... I bet the movement animations would be a pain in the butt.

It'd just be like a spider, and Aaglos' done that before :D

Yes. But it is a mechanical spider. It's much harder. ;)

Harder? :confused: Of course its harder, organic spiders are much squishier!

Its 'cause da spiders isn't green! ;)

No, the animating part would not be the hard one (afterall, it only has 4 legs and 2 arms).

The hard part on that defiler's case would be modelling I suppose. But I consider myself a better modeller than an animator, so I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to do afterall. But you knever know knunless knyou kntry.

Thinking about it seems to have broken his brain! :D

Nooooooooooooo! Wait a sec... would anything be different? ;)

US Infantry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=244847) + LMR's patented Lasgun-flash supreme = Imperial Guardsman?

I personally think the alternate history Roman units look more like IG than the "real world" modern units :)

Starship Trooper (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=3551) + recolor + LMR`s patented Lasgun-flash minor (its not a lascannon) + edited death (these guys will be getting killed ALOT in the mod, there would be too many heads flying off).

?

Why recolour? Only standard Cadians use green armour. Cadians have used greys many other times, like the 512th Orbital Defence M41! :D

No re-colour then!

Alternatively, since Conscripts in 40K basically look like guardsmen, i could make the kneeling version of the attack las-ified too and use the same graphics for the guardsmen and conscripts

But i'm in favour of a new one, but i've got a feeling it'll be a . .. .. .. .. . to keep the head from falling off

EDIT: I didnt realise we had a censoring system here. the missing word begins with a B and ends with an ITCH

And what does that spell kids? Thats right!

I've seen loads of Cadian Camo Schemes. Lava was my fav ;)
But I think the Cadians should still get the Olive Green drab. Maybe the Forearms, Shins, and Helmets in civ colors.

Well they will get an olive one if we make a new one..

If we modify the Starship Trooper, then he will be gray. Unless someone really wants to recolor. Imma see if NavyDawg still has the files, perhaps he could make us an alternate death, if Dave thinks it would a female dog of a job.

What program does ND use? I might try my hand at recoloring...

poser i believe

Hi!
Back from holiday at Manchester :)
I'll be back on business shortly (I hope).

About the IGsman: I think the industrial legionary as a conscript is a good idea. But How about kinboat's modern legion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2339070) + LMR's patented Lasgun-flash supreme = IGsman?

I agree with the Industrial Legionary :)

I think the other unit looks a little more cadian, the modern legion looking akin to a Catachan Kasrkin.

Poser... darn it. I was hoping it would be bryce.

The armour of the modern legion looks a lot like that of the guard, but he looks like he's wearing a bandana rather than a helmet.

perhaps i could add a helmet...

I thought he was wearing a bandana too, but it's a black legionaires helmet with a stipe :)

Maybe c&p on the Infantry or Marine head?

http://www.tabletopwargames.com/bfg/99110813001.gif
http://www.tabletopwargames.com/bfg/99110813003.gif
http://www.tabletopwargames.com/bfg/99110813002.jpg

These are some of the Tau Battlefleet Gothic ships: a battleship, cruiser and merchant class ship

http://www.tabletopwargames.com/bfg/99060803001.gif

And that is the Ork Kroozer from the same site :)

I reckon it looks great, and i do like the "wings" and their shootas. i do notice, however, the absence of a big gun, or am i just not seeing it?
um.. those aren't Tau ships, Tau ships generally look at least remotely similar to the Manta, unlike those.

these are Tau ships:
BFG TAU COURIER TRANSPORT

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/taufreighter1store.jpg
BFG TAU CUSTODIAN

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/taubs2store.jpg
etc...
try this link: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/QUATERMASTERS_STORE_BATTLEFLEET_GOTHIC_9.html

Then whose ships are the ones above?

who the **** knows, but I'm certain that their not Tau ships.:D:scan:

Well, the ones i posted came up in a google search for tau ships, but those look a lot tau-ier. thanks :)

no prob, I'm a Tau fanatic.:lol:

In that case, which spaceships should we use as naval vessels in the mod in your opinion?

They have atleast a cool looking dropship which could be transformed into a transport ship ;)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/orca.jpg

EDIT: actually, check out the battlefleet gothic tau ships:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=301006&orignav=300808

Yeah, those are the ones i originally posted. So they are tau after all...

In that case, which spaceships should we use as naval vessels in the mod in your opinion?
BFG TAU PROTECTOR

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/Taucruiser2store.jpg
TAU CASTELLAN CLASS ESCORT

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/escort-2store.jpg
TAU EMISSARY CLASS STARSHIP

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/emissary2store.jpg
WARDEN GUNSHIPS
AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU TIGER SHARK
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/tigershark.jpg

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/wardenp3store.jpg
AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU TIGERSHARK AX-2-2 WITH REMORA DRONE STEALTH FIGHTERS
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/ax221store.jpg
AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU MANTA
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/manta.jpg
A Tau Manta features a drop down bay able to hold 4 Tau Tanks.
AERONAUTICA IMPERIALIS TAU BARRACUDAS
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/barracuda.jpg

these, in addition to the two I posted earlier

Well, we have room for a transport, a cruiser and a battleship

The Manta and Barracuda are going to be aircraft

So maybe aaglo's pic as the transport, the emissary as the cruiser and the protector as the battleship?

With those wide protector & emissary-class ships is one big problem when turned into sea surface vessels: They are the worst kind of design possible :lol: . Unless the lenght/width ratios are dramatically changed :)

Perhaps Tau should have "special" sea units, like submarines? :)
They don`t have to behave very differently than normal ships in game terms (invisible and all that, cos of the technology), but they would look cool gliding under water.

Cos most of their hovertanks/spaceships/football teams are named after fish..

Or they can be hovercraft, like most of their vehicles

hovercraft...? Or Hydrofoils.
That could work :)

Well, we have room for a transport, a cruiser and a battleship

The Manta and Barracuda are going to be aircraft

So maybe aaglo's pic as the transport, the emissary as the cruiser and the protector as the battleship?
other way around, emissary as battleship, protector as cruiser; the custodian is a carrier

and the tiger shark AX-2-2 could act as a light carrier

What do you guys think of having a carrier as a unique tau unit?

Well, you could have the Tau ships sit on the water but have waves "radiate" from around them - kind of like helis.

I don't think it should be only availible for the tau... but you could give them some extra room as a race perk (cram some extra kroots in there)

Well, you could have the Tau ships sit on the water but have waves "radiate" from around them - kind of like helis.

I don't think it should be only availible for the tau... but you could give them some extra room as a race perk (cram some extra kroots in there)
or, jike the star wars Mod i'm involved with, we could make it so that each race has mostly unique units; what do you think?[c3c][civ4]
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Edit: plz disregard, screwup

Well, you could have the Tau ships sit on the water but have waves "radiate" from around them - kind of like helis.

I don't think it should be only availible for the tau... but you could give them some extra room as a race perk (cram some extra kroots in there)
or, like the star wars Mod i'm involved with, we could make it so that each race has mostly unique units; what do you think?[c3c][civ4]
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Each race does have mostly unique units, i was referring to a truely unique unit.

most factions have "assault infantry" whether that is an assault marine, an ogryn or a stormboy or whatever, but a unique unit in this sense would mean only one faction would have that kind of unit, like the imperial guard and their vulture gunship

Each race does have mostly unique units, i was referring to a truely unique unit.

most factions have "assault infantry" whether that is an assault marine, an ogryn or a stormboy or whatever, but a unique unit in this sense would mean only one faction would have that kind of unit, like the imperial guard and their vulture gunship
I know, that was also what I was referring to, most of the units in the SW Mod are truly unique

I thought he meant by carriers a troop carrier, not an aircraft carrier... :crazyeye:
So whichone is it?

i presumed he meant aircraft carrier, since i would call a troop carrier a transport, but now i'm not so sure...

i presumed he meant aircraft carrier, since i would call a troop carrier a transport, but now i'm not so sure...
aircraft carrier
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I was thinking about troop carriers... But now that you mention it - Each race should get both ~ balancing the races would be hard if the mod didn't ~ Plus each race has air support. to some extent.

But the Tau excell at tech stuff, so they could have upgrades to hold more troops/aircraft.

A quick question - Are the ocean squares going to be space or what?

I was thinking about troop carriers... But now that you mention it - Each race should get both ~ balancing the races would be hard if the mod didn't ~ Plus each race has air support. to some extent.

But the Tau excell at tech stuff, so they could have upgrades to hold more troops/aircraft.

A quick question - Are the ocean squares going to be space or what?
answer: we could do it that way, I know the star wars Mod did

No, this will be a random map mod, a full conversion of the Epic game. Oceans are water.

No, this will be a random map mod, a full conversion of the Epic game. Oceans are water.
why, space looks cooler and it'd be easy to do, Just have Odin convert it from SW to WH40K

Random map is more fun to play, and as the units are mostly land units, space would be daft as you can't walk from planet to planet.

It's an alien terrain map, water as water, land as land.

Warhammer and 40K are primarily land based games, whereas in Star Wars as much - if not more - warfare occurs in space. it just makes more sense for a land based game to be set on a planet rather than a galaxy

Warhammer and 40K are primarily land based games, whereas in Star Wars as much - if not more - warfare occurs in space. it just makes more sense for a land based game to be set on a planet rather than a galaxy
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Okay... Makes sense to me. (I might make myself a space/planet mod after the big one comes through)

And what makes even more sense, is that all the ships we currently have are animated to move in water - not in space ;)

Well that too :)

That would be a good reason... Although depending on how its animated it could be described as 'faster-than-light-engine' wake.