Imperial Guard

Starting- Conscript (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=89196) (1.2.1) Upgrades to Guardsman
Infantry- Guardsman (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=432518) (3.2.1)
Tactics- Heavy Bolter Squad (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175511) (2.4.1)
Mobility- Rough Rider (4.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96465) (3.2.2) ZOC
Support- Missile Squad- (4.3.1) Defensive Bombard (4.0.1), Firaxis TOW Infantry
Assault Infantry- Ogryn (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175476) (5.2.1) +1 HP* - WIP aaglo
Fast Attack- Hellhound (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256510) (6.2.2) Blitz
Walkers- Sentinel (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=176648) (5.1.3) Ignores a buncha terrain* - WIP by aaglo
Elite Infantry- Kasrkin (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4755146#post4755146) (5.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Sniper (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=372440) (2.2.1) Bombard (7.1.1), Lethal Land, Hidden
Heavy Support- Leman Russ (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93168) (9.5.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1) +1 HP, Options to Demolisher (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93168)
Flight- Vulture (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257769) - (7.4.4) Ignores all Terrain, Sees 2, Can Rebase
Siege- Manticore (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101712)(3.3.2) Bombard (8.2.3)
Field Artillery- Basilisk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101703) (3.3.2) Bombard (6.3.2)
Special Weapons- Medusa (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101888) (3.3.2) Bombard (9.2.1) Lethal Land and Sea,
Heroes- Psyker (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=444960) (5.6.1), See Two Spaces, Defensive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden
AA - Hydra (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101705) (4.4.2)
Super Heavy- Baneblade (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93914) 14.7.2 +2 HPs
Champion- Commissar (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=263810) (7.7.1) Detects Hidden, Sees 2, Stealth attack versus Heros and early game infantry

Naval Transport- Imperial Transport (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)
Naval War- Imperial Destroyer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)
Naval Supremecy- Imperial Battleship (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)

Flight - Thunderbolt (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128791) (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Marauder (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128766) (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12

Witch Hunters

Starting- Stormtrooper
Infantry- Battle Sister (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)
Tactics- Heavy Bolter Retributor (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)
Mobility- None
Mobile Infantry- Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96465) (3.2.2) ZOC
Support- Melta Retributor (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)
Promethium - Heavy Flamer Retributor (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)
Assault Infantry- Seraphim (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)
Fast Attack- Dominion Squad
Walkers- Penitent Engine
Elite Infantry- Sister Repentia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)
Stealth- Callidus Assassin
Heavy Support- Immolator
Flight- Vulture (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257769) - (7.4.4) Ignores all Terrain, Sees 2, Can Rebase
Siege- Arco Flagellant
Field Artillery- Exorcist
Special Weapons- Drop Pod (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121135)
Heroes- Witch Hunter
AA - Hydra (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=101705) (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Landraider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion- Canoness (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=398229)

Naval Transport- Imperial Transport (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)
Naval War- Imperial Destroyer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)
Naval Supremecy- Imperial Battleship (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)

Flight - Thunderbolt (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128791) (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Marauder (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128766) (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12

Daemon Hunters

Starting- Stormtrooper
Infantry- Grey Knight - WIP LMR
Tactics- Psycannon
Mobility- None
Mobile Infantry- Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96465) (3.2.2) ZOC
Support- Incinerator
Assault Infantry- Death Cult Assassin
Fast Attack- Grey Knight Rhino
Walkers- Grey Knight Dreadnought
Elite Infantry- Grey Knight Terminator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=254465)
Stealth- Vindicare Assassin (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=372440)
Heavy Support- Dread Knight
Flight- Vulture (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257769) - (7.4.4) Ignores all Terrain, Sees 2, Can Rebase
Siege- Orbital Bombardment
Field Artillery- None
Special Weapons- Drop Pod (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121135)
Heroes- Daemon Hunter (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175667)
AA - Hyperios (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256510)(4.4.2)
Super Heavy- Landraider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion- Inquisitor (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=391677)

Naval Transport- Imperial Transport (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)
Naval War- Knight Cruiser (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=255417)
Naval Supremecy- Imperial Battleship (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=109386)

Flight - Thunderbolt (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128791) (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Thunderhawk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128928) (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 8, Carries and can drop two units


Starting- Scout (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=213545) (2.2.1) Options to Scout Sniper
Infantry- Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (4.3.1)
Tactics- Heavy Bolter Devastator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (3.4.1)
Mobility- Bike (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (4.2.2) Options to Attack Bike
Mobile Infantry- Rhino (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (4.3.2) ZOC, Options to Razorback (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031)
Support- Missile Devastator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) - (5.3.1) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1)
Assault Infantry- Assault Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103214) (4.3.2) Paradrops, Razorback (5.3.2)
Fast Attack- Landspeeder (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (5.1.2) Treats all Terrain as roads, Attack Bike (6.2.2)
Walkers- Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (7.4.1) +1 HP, All terrain as roads
Elite Infantry- Terminator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (6.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Scout Sniper (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=248215) (2.2.1) Bombard (7.1.1), Lethal Land, Hidden, Detects Hidden
Heavy Support- Predator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (8.6.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Vindicator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (3.3.2) Bombard (8.2.1)
Field Artillery- Whirlwind (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (3.3.2) Bombard (6.1.2)
Special Weapons- Drop Pod (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121135)
Heroes- Librarian (6.7.1), See Two Spaces, Defenesive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden, has memorized the dewey decimal system
AA - Hyperios (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256510)(4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Landraider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion - Chaplain (8.8.1) Stealth attack versus Heros and other champions - WIP aaglo

Naval Transport- Space Marine Barge (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=216855)
Naval War- Strike Cruiser (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=255417)
Naval Supremecy- Space Marine Battleship (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=255417)

Flight - Thunderbolt (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128791) (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Thunderhawk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128928) (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 8, Carries and can drop two units

Black Templars
Neophyte - (1.3.1) Replaces Scout, Upgrades to Crusader Squad - WIP LMR
Crusader - (5.1.1) Replaces Marine, Upgrades to Crusader Squad - WIP LMR
Crusader Squad - (6.4.1) Replaces Missile Devastator - WIP LMR
Crusade Chaplain - (7.7.1), Replaces Librarian - WIP LMR
Emperor's Champion - (9.7.1) Replaces Chaplain - WIP LMR
Landraider Crusader (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=260107) - (13.11.2) +1 HPs, replaces Land Raider

No Scout Snipers

Space Wolves
Iron Priest - (4.3.1) Sees 2, Replaces Tech Marine
Blood Claws (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=416761) - (3.3.1) Replaces Scout
Grey Hunter (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=416761) - (4.3.1) Replaces Marine
Long Fang (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=416761) - (3.5.1) Replaces Heavy Bolter Devestator
Wolf Guard - (6.5.1) Detects Hidden - WIP LMR
Wolf Scout (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=416761) - (5.4.1) Detects Hidden, Hidden, Replaces Scout Sniper
Rune Priest (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=416761) - (7.6.1), Defenesive Bombard (7.0.1), Detects Hidden, Replaces Librarian
Venerable Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=262630) - (8.5.1) +2 HP, Treats all terrain as roads, Upgrade from Dreadnaught
Leman Russ Exterminator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93168) - (9.5.2) +1 HP, Blitz, Forge Tech
Wolf Lord (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=416761) - (9.9.1) Sneak attack versus Dark Angels UUs

No Missile Devastators

Dark Angels
Ravenwing - (5.2.3) Replaces Bike
Plasma Cannon (5.5.1) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1) Replaces Missile Devestator
Deathwing (Terminator) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=254465) - (5.7.1) Detects Hidden
Veteran (6.5.1) Option of Marine, Elite Infantry Tech - WIP LMR
Mortis Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=262630) - (7.5.1) replaces Dreadnaught

Blood Angels
Baal Predator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=258497) - (8.6.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1) Blitz, replaces Predator
Death Company - (5.2.1) +1 HP Option of Marine - WIP LMR
Furiso Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=262630) - (8.4.1) +1 HP, Treats all Terrain as roads, Replaces Dreadnaught


Starting- Slugga Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181028) (4.1.1) Options to Stikkbomma
Infantry- Shootaboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181407) (3.3.1)Options to Big Shoota, Stikkbomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116253) (4.2.1), Defensive Bombard (4.0.1)
Tactics- Big Shoota (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180672) (3.5.1)
Mobility- Warbike (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94290) (5.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Trukkboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906) (4.2.2) ZOC
Support- Tankbusta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178879) (5.3.1)
Promethieum Refinement- Burna Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181028) (6.1.1)
Assault Infantry- Stormboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119709) (5.4.2) Paradrop
Fast Attack- Buggy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=249496) (6.3.2)
Walkers- Killa Kan (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95487) (7.4.1) +1 HP, Treats all terrain as roads
Elite Infantry- Skarboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252739) (7.5.1) Sees Hidden
Stealth- Kommandoz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=120767)- (6.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry
Heavy Support- Looted Leman Russ (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104010) (8.5.2) +1 HP, Defesnive Bombard (7.0.1)
Flight - Deth Kopta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251728) (6.3.2) rebase, paradrop
Siege- Lobba (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112239) (1.1.1) Bombards (7.2.1)
Field Artillery- Kannon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112230) (1.1.1) Bombards (6.1.2)
Special Weapons - Zzap Gun (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119819) (4.4.1) Bombards (9.1.1) Lethal Land
Heroes- Nob (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253121) (8.6.1)
AA- Flak Trukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606) (4.4.2) AA of Some!
Super Heavy- Battlewagon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251525) (13.9.2) ZOC, Bombards (6.1.2) +2 HP
Champion- Warboss (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906) (9.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes

Naval Transport- Waaagh Barge (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=221016)
Naval Warfare - Kroozer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=254242)
Naval Supremecy - Battlekroozer (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=254242)

Flight- Fightabomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95922)
Heavy Fliers- 'Eavy Bomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95922)

Goffs

Stormierboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119709) (6.3.3) replaces Stormboy
Ork Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95487) (8.5.2) +2 HP, Upgrade of Killa Kan, Forge Tech
Warlord (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253121) (10.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes and Armor

No Buggies, Kommandoz, Deff Koptas or Zzap Guns

Blood Axes
Looted Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.2.2) ZOC, replaces Trukkboyz
Looted Basilisk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.3.2) Bombards (6.3.2) replaces Kannon
Vetrun Kommando (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253121) (7.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry, upgrade from Kommando

Snakebites
Wild Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (3.2.1), replaces Slugga Boy
Hunta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (4.3.1), replaces Shoota Boy
Boar Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=117205) (5.1.2), sees hidden, replaces Warbike
Junkatrukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93920) (5.1.2), replaces Trukkboyz
Mad Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (6.4.1), replaces Stormboyz
Cyboar Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252739) (6.3.2), sees hidden, +1 HP, replaces Buggy
Brute (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116632) (8.5.1), replaces Skar Boyz
Trappa (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (7.4.1), sees hidden, hidden, sneak attack vs infantry, replaces Kommando
Wyrdboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=188408) (7.7.1) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1), sees hidden, replaces Nob
Squiggoth (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=110946) (14.9.2) ZOC, +2 HP, replaces Battlewagon
Sooside Bomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119418) (3.3.1) Bombards (6.1.3) Cruise Missile, replaces Zzap Gun

No Burna Boyz or Kannons

Evil Sunz
Outrider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251525) (6.2.3) replaces Warbike
Wartrak (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906) (7.3.2) replaces Buggy
Guntrukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606) (1.1.2) Bombards (6.1.2), replaces kannon
Mekboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253505) (7.6.1) replaces Nob
Big Mek (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253505) (8.8.1) Sees 2, replaces Warboss

No Killa Kans or Lobbas

Death Skullz
Loota (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252739) (5.4.1) replaces Tankbustas
Looted Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.2.2) ZOC, replaces Trukkboyz
Looted Basilisk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.3.2) Bombards (6.3.2) replaces Kannon
Looted Baneblade (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94603) (14.7.2) +2 HP, replaces Battlewagon
Mekboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253505) (7.6.1) replaces Nob
Big Mek (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253505) (8.8.1) Sees 2, replaces Warboss

No Kommandoz

Bad Moonz
Flash Gitz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121443) (8.6.1) Sees Hidden, replaces Skar Boyz
Wartrak Scorcha (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=249496) (7.3.2) ZOC, replaces Buggy
Deth Kopta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251728) (6.3.2) rebase, paradrop, special unit at Flight
Blasta Trukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606) (4.4.1) Bombards (10.1.2) replaces Zzap Gun

No Stormboyz

Chaos

Starting- Cultist (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39260) (2.2.1) -1 HP, Cheap
Infantry- Chaos Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) (5.2.1)
Tactics- Havoc Autocannon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) (4.4.1)
Mobility- Chaos Biker (5.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Chaos Rhino (5.2.2) ZOC, Quinzy has done this one, hasn't been released
Support- Havoc Lascannon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) (6.2.1) Defensive Bombard (6.0.1)
Assault Infantry- Raptor (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103976) (6.3.2) Paradrops
Fast Attack- Fury (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=165938) (5.1.3)
Walkers- Chaos Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=263399) (8.3.1) +1 HP, All terrain as roads
Elite Infantry- Chaos Terminator (7.4.1) Detects Hidden - WIP LMR
Stealth- Infiltrator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) (5.2.1) Hidden, Detects Hidden
Heavy Support- Chaos Predator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=258497) (9.5.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Chaos Vindicator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=258497) (3.3.2) Bombards (8.2.1)
Field Artillery- Defiler (7.4.1) Bombard (8.2.1), All terrain as roads - WIP LMR
Special Weapons- Possessed Marine
Heroes- Chaos Sorceror (7.6.1), See Two Spaces, Defensive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden
AA - Chaos Hyperios (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256493) (4.4.2)
Super Heavy- Chaos Landraider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=260107) (13.9.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion - Chaos Lord (9.7.1) Stealth attack versus Heros and other champions
Greater Daemon - Daemon Prince (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9144404&postcount=567)

Naval Transport- Chaos Assault Barge (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=217410)
Naval War- Idolator, something like this (http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Chaos_Cruiser.gif)
Naval Supremecy- Despoiler, and this (http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Chaos_Desolator_Battleship.gif)


Flight - Hell Blade (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265451) (6.1.0) Bombards (5.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Hell Talon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=265451) (0.3.0) Bombards (12.0.2) Range 9, Lethal Land

Black Legion
Chosen Terminator - (7.5.1), replaces Chaos Terminator

World Eaters
Berserker (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) - (6.1.1), replaces Chaos Marine
Flesh Hound (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=96545) - replaces Fury
Brass Scorpion - replaces Defiler
Bloodletter (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9134168&postcount=547)- replaces Possessed Marine
Bloodthirster (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45641) - replaces Daemon Prince

Death Guard
Plague Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) - (5.2.1), +1 HP, replaces Chaos Marine
Plaguebearer - replaces Possessed Marine
Plaguereaper - replaces Chaos Landraider, based on a Baneblade, it's main cannon is half-living and shoots pus!
Unclean One (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112894) - replaces Daemon Prince

Thousand Sons
Rubric Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) - (5.3.1), stealth attack vs. Space Wolves, replaces Chaos Marine
Screamer - replaces Fury
Horror - replaces Possessed Marine
Sorceror Lord - replaces Chaos Lord
Lord of Change (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=187741) - replaces Daemon Prince

Emperor's Children
Noise Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) - (5.2.1), defensive bombard, replaces Chaos Marine
Havoc Blastmaster (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=426781) - (4.5.1), defensive bombard, replaces Havoc Autocannon
Daemonette - replaces Possessed Marine
Keeper of Secrets (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45641) - replaces Daemon Prince

Lost and the Damned

Starting- Traitor (3.2.1) - WIP LMR
Infantry- Mutant (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=177110) (4.1.1)
Tactics- Big Mutant (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=240786) (4.3.1)
Mobility- Traitor Rider (3.3.2)
Mobile Infantry- Traitor Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256493) (3.2.2) ZOC
Support- No One Supports a Traitor!
Assault Infantry- Plague Zombies (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=76102) (7.1.1) -1 HPs
Fast Attack- Traitor Hellhound (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256493) (5.3.2) Blitz
Walkers- Traitor Sentinel (5.1.3) Ignores a buncha terrain - WIP aaglo
Elite Infantry- Elite Traitors (5.3.1) Sees Hidden
Stealth- Infil Traitors (5.3.1) Hidden, Sees Hidden
Heavy Support- Traitor Russ (9.5.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1) +1 HP - WIP aaglo
Siege- Defiler
Field Artillery- Earthshaker (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256493) (3.3.2) Bombard (6.3.2)
Special Weapons- Chaos Spawn (7.6.1) Collateral Damage
Heroes- Rogue Psyker (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=47108) (7.4.1), See Two Spaces, Bombards (7.2.1), Detects Hidden
AA - Traitor Hydra (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=256493) (4.4.2)
Super Heavy- Decimator (12.8.2) +2 HPs
Champion- Apostate Cardinal (8.5.1) Detects Hidden, Sees 2, Stealth attack versus Heros and early game infantry

Naval Transport- Chaos Assault Barge (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=217410)
Naval War- Infidel
Naval Supremecy- Despoiler

Flight - Traitor Thunderbolt (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Traitor Marauder (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12


Eldar

Starting - Guardian (2.3.2)
Infantry - Dire Avengers (4.2.2)
Tactics - Howling Bansee (5.1.2)
Mobility - Jet Bike (4.2.2) Treats all terrain as roads, can rebase
Mobile Infantry - Wave Serpent (3.4.2) ZOC, Treats all Terrain as Roads, Can Rebase
Support - Dark Reapers (3.5.1) Treat all terrain as roads, Bombards (5.1.1)
Assualt Infantry - Swooping Hawks - (4.2.2) Paradrops, Treats All Terrain as Roads
Fast Attack - Vyper - (5.3.3) Ignores all terrain, Can rebase
Walkers - War Walker (6.2.3) Ignores most terrain
Elite Infantry - Striking Scorpions (6.4.2)
Stealth - Ranger (2.3.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Hidden, Bombards (7.2.2) Lethal
Heavy Support - Falcon (7.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can rebase, ZOC
Siege - Fire Prism (8.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Bombards (8.1.1), Can rebase
Field Artillery - Support Platform (1.1.2) Bombards (7.2.2)
Special Weapons - Wraithlord (9.5.2)
Heroes - Farseer - (4.10.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Defensive Bombard (10.0.1) Lethal
AA - Firestorm (4.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can rebase
Super Heavy - Scorpion (11.7.3) Can Rebase, Ignores Terrain
Champion - Avatar (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=15110) (12.6.2) +1 HP

Naval Transport -
Naval Warfare -
Naval Supremacy -

Flight - Nightwing
Heavy Fliers - Phoenix

Ulthwe
Black Guardian - replaces Guardian

Iyanden
Wraithguard - replaces Striking Scorpion

Alaitoc
Starstrider - replaces Ranger

Saim-Hann
Wild Rider - replaces Jet Bike

Biel Tan
Shining Spear - replaces Jet Bike
Fire Dragon - replaces Swooping Hawk
Void Spinner - replaces Falcon

Dark Eldar

Starting - Kabalite Warrior (3.3.2)
Infantry - Warp Beast (4.1.1) Treats all Terrain as roads
Tactics - Splinter Cannon (2.5.2)
Mobility - Reaver (5.1.3) Treats all terrain as roads, can rebase
Mobile Infantry -Raider (4.4.3) ZOC, Treats all Terrain as Roads, Can Rebase
Support - Shredder (3.5.2) Bombards (5.1.1)
Assault Infantry - Scourge - (5.2.2) Paradrops, Treats All Terrain as Roads
Fast Attack - Hellion - (6.3.4) Ignores some terrain
Elite Infantry - Wych (6.4.2) Sees 2, Blitz
Stealth - Mandrake (5.4.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Hidden, Stealh attack versus Eldar
Heavy Support - Ravager (7.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can rebase, Stealth atatck versus heavy vehicles, Options to Disentigrator
Siege - Disentgrator (Ravager) (9.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can Rebase
Special Weapons - Grotesques (8.4.2) -1 HP, Cheap
Heroes - Haemunculus - (10.4.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Steal Attack on Infantry (Except Orks)
AA- ?
Super Heavy - Talos (9.7.3) Can Rebase, Ignores Terrain, Collateral Damage, +1 HPs
Champion - Lord (10.10.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden

Naval Transport -
Naval Warfare -
Naval Supremacy -

Flight - Raven
Heavy Fliers - Void Dragon Pheonix


Starting- Gun Drone - WIP LMR
Infantry- Fire Warrior (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=336006) (4.1.1)
Tactics- Kroot
Mobility- Tetra
Mobile Infantry- Devilfish ZOC
Support- Krootox
Assault Infantry- Vespid Stingwing paradrop
Fast Attack- Pirahna Blitz
Walkers- XV8 Crisis Ignores a buncha terrain
Elite Infantry- Pathfinder Offensive Bombard, Sees Hidden - WIP LMR
Stealth- XV25 Stealth Hidden, Sees Hidden
Heavy Support- Hammerhead (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104679) (9.5.2) *
Siege- XV88 Broadside
Field Artillery- Skyray
Special Weapons- Sniper Drone - WIP LMR
Heroes- Etheral
Super Heavy- Kharloc
Champion- Commander

Naval Transport- Merchant
Naval War- Hero Cruiser
Naval Supremecy- Explorer Battleship

Flight - Barracuda (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Manta (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12

* indicates units that have a decent placeholder, but a new unit would be appreciated

Reserved for General Goldflash words.

Space Morons Marines

Land Units

Starting- Scout (2.2.1) Options to Scout Sniper
Infantry- Marine (4.3.1)
Tactics- Heavy Bolter Devestator (3.4.1)
Mobility- Bike (4.2.2) Options to Attack Bike
Mobile Infantry- Rhino (4.3.2) ZOC, Options to Razorback
Support- Missile Devestator - (5.3.1) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1)
Assault Infantry- Assault Marine (4.3.2) Paradrops, Razorback (5.3.2)
Fast Attack- Landspeeder (5.1.2) Treats all Terrain as roads*, Attack Bike (6.2.2)
Walkers- Dreadnaught (7.4.1) +1 HP, All terrain as roads*
Elite Infantry- Terminator (6.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Scout Sniper (2.2.1) Bombard (7.1.1), Lethal Land, Hidden, Detects Hidden
Heavy Support- Predator (8.6.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Vindicator (3.3.2) Bombard (8.2.1)
Field Artillery- Whirlwind (3.3.2) Bombard (6.1.2)
Special Weapons- Drop Pod - Like a Firaxis Helicopter with a huge range
Heroes- Librarian (6.7.1), See Two Spaces, Defenesive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden, has memorized the dewey decimal system
AA - Hunter/Hyperion (3.3.2) Air Defense of... some. More.
Super Heavy- Landraider (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion - Chaplain** (8.8.1) Stealth attack versus Heros and other champions.

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Assualt Barge
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Thunderbolt (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Thunderhawk (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 8
, Carries and can drop two units

Support Units -
Servitor - (0.0.1) Settler
Tech Marine - (4.3.1) Worker

*To keep movement ranges something sort similar to the real tabletop, I think roads should be reduced to 1/2 instead of 1/3
**Now that I think about it, each civ/race should have its own champion's tech and a small wonder that autoprods the champ... don't want to have 37 Chaplains running around. By the way, I forgot to put the champion in on the Iggys... but now I did. Go check it out.

Space Marine Unique Units

Space Wolves

Iron Priest - (4.3.1) Sees 2, Replaces Tech Marine
Blood Claws - (3.3.1) Replaces Scout
Grey Hunter - (4.3.1) Sees 2 Replaces Marine
Long Fang - (3.5.1) Sees 2, Replaces Heavy Bolter Devestator
Wolf Guard - (6.5.1) Sees 2, Detects Hidden
Wolf Scout - (5.4.1) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Hidden, Replaces Scout Sniper
Rune Priest - (7.6.1), See Two Spaces, Defenesive Bombard (7.0.1), Detects Hidden, Replaces Librarian
Venerable Dreadnaught - (8.5.1) +2 HP, Sees 2, Treats all terrain as roads, Upgrade to Dreadnaught
Leman Russ Exterminator - (9.5.2) +1 HP, Blitz, Forge Tech
Wolf Lord - (9.9.1) Sees 2, Sneak attack versus Dark Angels UUs

Space Wolves Don't Get a Support Unit

Black Templars

Neophyte - (1.3.1) Replaces Scout, Upgrades to Crusader Squad
Crusader - (5.1.1) Replaces Marine, Upgrades to Crusader Squad
Crusader Squad - (6.4.1) ZOC Replaces Missile Devestator
Crusade Chaplain - (7.7.1), See Two Spaces, Detects Hidden, Replaces Librarian
Emperor's Champion - (9.7.1) Stealth attack versus Heros and other champions and some Xenos, Replaces Chaplain
Landraider Crusader - (13.11.2) +1 HPs, ZOC, Replaces Land Raider

Black Templars don't get a Stealth Unit

Dark Angels

Ravenwing - (5.2.3) Replaces Bike
Plasma Cannon (5.5.1) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1) Replaces Missile Devestator
Deathwing (Terminator) - (5.7.1) Detects Hidden
Veteran (6.5.1) Option of Marine, Elite Infantry Tech

Blood Angels

Baal Predator - (8.6.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1) Blitz instead of Predator
Death Company - (5.2.1) +1 HP Option of Marine, Assualt Infantry Tech
Furiso Dreadnaught - (8.4.1) +1 HP, Treats all Terrain as roads, Replaces Dreadnaught

Imperial Guard

Land Units

Starting- Conscript (1.2.1) Upgrades to Guardsman
Infantry- Gaurdsman (3.2.1)
Tactics- Heavy Bolter Squad (2.4.1)
Mobility- Rough Rider (4.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Chimera (3.2.2) ZOC
Support- Missile Squad- (4.3.1) Defensive Bombard (4.0.1)
Assault Infantry- Ogryn (5.2.1) +1 HP
Fast Attack- Hellhound (6.2.2) Blitz
Walkers- Sentinel (5.1.3) Ignores a buncha terrain
Elite Infantry- Karsarkins (5.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Sniper (2.2.1) Bombard (7.1.1), Lethal Land, Hidden
Heavy Support- Leman Russ (9.5.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1) +1 HP, Options to Demolisher
Flight- Vulture - (7.4.4) Ignores all Terrain, Sees 2, Can Rebase
Siege- Griphon (3.3.2) Bombard (8.2.3)
Field Artillery- Basalisk (3.3.2) Bombard (6.3.2)
Special Weapons- Medusa (3.3.2) Bombard (9.2.1) Lethal Land and Sea,
Heroes- Psyker (5.6.1), See Two Spaces, Defenesive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden
AA - Hydra (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Baneblade 14.7.2 +2 HPs
Champion- Commisar (7.7.1) Detects Hidden, Sees 2, Stealth attack versus Heros and early game infantry

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Umm... a Boat
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Thunderbolt (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Marauder (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12

Imperial Guard Unique Units

Catachan Jungle Fighters - Slated for the Expansion

Witch Hunters

Land Units

Starting- Stormtrooper (3.2.1)
Infantry- Sister of Battle (4.2.1)
Tactics- (Heavy Bolter) Retributer (2.4.1)
Mobility- Noooothhhhiiiing :devil:
Mobile Infantry- Chimera (3.2.2) ZOC, upgrades to Dominion Squad
Support- Melta (Retributer) (2.5.1)
Promethium Refinement- Heavy Flamer (Retributer) (4.3.1)
Assault Infantry- Seraphim (4.2.2)- Paradrops
Fast Attack- Dominion Squad (Rhino) (4.4.2) ZOC
Walkers- Pentient Engine (5.3.2) Ignores some terrain. Just some.
Elite Infantry- Sisters Repentia (5.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Callidus Assasin (5.5.1) Hidden, Detects Hidden, Stealth atatck versus Heroes
Heavy Support- Immolater (6.5.2) Blitz
Siege- Arco Flagellants (7.1.1) Collateral Damage
Field Artillery- Exorcist (3.3.2) Bombard (7.1.2) Lethal Land
Special Weapons- Drop Pod,
Heroes- Witchhunter (6.6.1), Detects Hidden, Stealth attack versus Psykers and the like
AA - Hydra (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Maybe the Landraider, if you guys can't think of anything better
Champion- Cannoness (7.9.1) Detects Hidden, Sees 2, Stealth attack versus Heros and Psykers

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Umm... a Boat
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Thunderbolt (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Marauder (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12

Daemonhunters

Land Units

Starting- Stormtrooper (3.2.1)
Infantry- Grey Knight (5.2.1)
Tactics- Psycannon (1.4.1)
Mobility- Nothing for these guys, eithers.
Mobile Infantry- Chimera (3.2.2) ZOC, Upgrades to Rhino
Support- Incinerator - (6.3.1)
Assault Infantry- Death Cult Assassin
Fast Attack- (Grey Knights) Rhino (5.3.2) ZOC
Walkers- Grey Knights Dreadnaught (8.5.1) +1 HP
Elite Infantry- Grey Knights Terminator (7.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Vindicare Assassin, (3.3.1) Bombards (8.1.1), Lethal Land, Hidden, Detects Hidden, Sees 2 Spaces
Heavy Support- None for them.
Siege- They Don't get anything here, either
Field Artillery- Again, nothing.
Special Weapons- Drop Pod - Like a Firaxis Helicopter with a huge range
Heroes- Deamonhunter (6.7.1), See Two Spaces
AA - Something (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Landraider (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion - Inquisitor (9.7.1) Stealth attack versus Deamons and some Chaos things, sees 2 spaces

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Umm... a Boat
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Thunderbolt (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Thunderhawk (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 8
, Carries and can drop two units

DA ORKZ!

Land Units

Starting- Slugga Boy (4.1.1) Options to Stikkbomma
Infantry- Shootaboy (3.3.1)Options to Big Shoota, Stikbomma (4.2.1), Defensive Bombard (4.0.1)
Tactics- Big Shoota (3.5.1)
Mobility- Warbike (5.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Trukkboyz (4.2.2) ZOC
Support- Tankbusta (5.3.1)
Promethieum Refinement- Burna Boy (6.1.1)
Assault Infantry- Stormboyz (5.4.2) Paradrop
Fast Attack- Buggy (6.3.2)
Walkers- Killa Kan (7.4.1) +1 HP, Treats all terrain as roads
Elite Infantry- Skarboyz (7.5.1) Sees Hidden
Stealth- Kommandoez- (6.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry
Heavy Support- Looted Leman Russ (8.5.2) +1 HP, Defesnive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Lobba (1.1.1) Bombards (7.2.1)
Field Artillery- Kannon (1.1.1) Bombards (6.1.2)
Special Weapons - Zapp Gun (4.4.1) Bombards (9.1.1) Lethal Land
Heroes- Nobz (8.6.1) Sneak attack versus Armor (Power Claw) and Early Game Orks (Weedy Gitz!)
AA- Flak Trukk (4.4.2) AA of Some!
Super Heavy- Battlewagon (13.9.2) ZOC, Bombards (6.1.2) +2 HP
Champion- Warboss (9.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes

Sea Units

Naval Transport
Naval Warfare
Naval Supremecy

Air Units

Flight- Fightabomma
Heavy Fliers- 'Eavy Bomma

Orky Oonique Oonits.

Goffs

Stormierboyz (6.3.3) Paradrop, Replaces Stormboy
Dreadknaught (8.5.2) +2 HP, Upgrade of Killa Kan, Forge Tech
Warlord (10.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes and Armor

No Buggies, Kommandoes, or Zzap Guns

Blood Axes

Snakebites

Evil Sunz

Death Skullz

Bad Moonz

Chaos Space Morons Marines

Land Units

Starting- Cultist (2.2.1) -1 HP, Cheap Cheap Cheap!
Infantry- Chaos Marine (5.2.1), Options to Infliltrator
Tactics- (Autocannon) Havoc (4.4.1)
Mobility- Chaos Biker (5.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Chaos Rhino (5.2.2) ZOC
Support- Obliterator - (6.2.1) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1)
Assault Infantry- Raptor (6.3.2) Paradrops
Fast Attack- Fury (5.1.3)
Walkers- Chaos Dreadnaught (8.3.1) +1 HP, All terrain as roads
Elite Infantry- Chosen Terminator (7.4.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Infiltrator (5.2.1) Hidden, Detects Hidden
Heavy Support- Chaos Predator (9.5.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Defiler (7.4.1) Bombard (8.2.1), All terrain as roads
Field Artillery- Lascannon (Havoc) (5.2.1) Bombards (9.1.1) Lethal Land
Special Weapons- Lesser Deamon - See Below
Heroes- Librarian (7.6.1), See Two Spaces, Defenesive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden, Options to Greater Deamon
AA - Something (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Chaos Landraider (13.9.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion - Chaos Lord (9.7.1) Stealth attack versus Heros and other champions, Greater Deamon - See Below

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Umm... a Boat
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Hellblade (6.1.0) Bombards (5.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Helltalon (0.3.0) Bombards (12.0.2) Range 9, Lethal Land

Chaos Unique Units

Black Legion (Undivided)

World Eaters (Khrone)

Emperor's Children (Slannesh)

Thousand Sons (Tzneetch)

Death Gaurd (Nurgle)

The Lost and the Damned

Land Units

Starting- Traitor (3.2.1)
Infantry- Mutant (4.1.1)
Tactics- Big Mutant (4.3.1)
Mobility- Traitor Rider (3.3.2)
Mobile Infantry- Traitor Chimera (3.2.2) ZOC
Support- No One Supports a Traitor!
Assault Infantry- Plauge Zombies (7.1.1) -1 HPs
Fast Attack- Traitor Hellhound (5.3.2) Blitz
Walkers- Traitor Sentinel (5.1.3) Ignores a buncha terrain
Elite Infantry- Elite Traitors (5.3.1) Sees Hidden Options to Infil Traitors
Stealth- Infil Traitors (5.3.1) Hidden, Sees Hidden
Heavy Support- Traitor Armor (Leman Russ) (9.5.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1) +1 HP
Siege- Defilier - Whatever I wrote as the Defiler stats before
Field Artillery- Earthshaker (Basalisk) (3.3.2) Bombard (6.3.2)
Special Weapons- Chaos Spawn (7.6.1) Collateral Damage
Heroes- Rouge Psyker (7.4.1), See Two Spaces, Bombards (7.2.1), Detects Hidden
AA - Traitor Air Defense (Hydra) (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Decimator (12.8.2) +2 HPs
Champion- Apostate Cardinal (8.5.1) Detects Hidden, Sees 2, Stealth attack versus Heros and early game infantry

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Umm... a Boat
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Traitor Thunderbolt (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Traitor Marauder (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 12

Eldar

The problem I had with the Eldar is that they have so much stuff; I had a hard time Craming it all into the lines. Several units, nomially avilable to all Eldar craftworlds, had to be used as UUs.

Land Units

Starting - Gaurdian (2.3.2)
Infantry - Dire Avengers (4.2.2)
Tactics - Howling Bansee (5.1.2)
Mobility - Jet Bike (4.2.2) Treats all terrain as roads, can rebase
Mobile Infantry - Wave Serpent (3.4.2) ZOC, Treats all Terrain as Roads, Can Rebase
Support - Dark Reapers (3.5.1) Treat all terrain as roads, Bombards (5.1.1)
Assualt Infantry - Swooping Hawks - (4.2.2) Paradrops, Treats All Terrain as Roads
Fast Attack - Vyper - (5.3.3) Ignores all terrain, Can rebase
Walkers - War Walker (6.2.3) Ignores most terrain
Elite Infantry - Striking Scorpions (6.4.2) Stealth attack against some stuff
Stealth - Ranger (2.3.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Hidden, Bombards (7.2.2) Lethal
Heavy Support - Flacon (7.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can rebase, ZOC
Siege - Fire Prism (8.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Bombards (8.1.1), Can rebase
Field Artillery - Support Platorm (1.1.2) Bombards (7.2.2)
Special Weapons - Wraith Lord (9.5.2)
Heroes - Farseer - (4.10.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Defensive Bombard (10.0.1) Lethal
AA - Firestorm (4.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can rebase, Air Defense
Super Heavy - Scorpion (11.7.3) Can Rebase, Ignores Terrain
Champion - Avatar of Khaine (12.6.2) +1 HP

Sea Units

You know the drill

Air Units

Flight - Nightwing
Heavy Fliers - Pheonix

Eldar Unique Units

Bel-Tain

Siam-Hann

Iyadeen

Altaioc

Dark Eldar

Conversely, the problem I had with Deldar is that they have so little Stuff. You'll see some holes.

Starting - Warrior (3.3.2)
Infantry - Warp Beast (4.1.1) Treats all Terrain as roads
Tactics - Splinter Cannon (2.5.2)
Mobility - Reaver (5.1.3) Treats all terrain as roads, can rebase
Mobile Infantry -Raider (4.4.3) ZOC, Treats all Terrain as Roads, Can Rebase
Support - Shredder (3.5.2) Bombards (5.1.1)
Assualt Infantry - Scourge - (5.2.2) Paradrops, Treats All Terrain as Roads
Fast Attack - Hellion - (6.3.4) Ignores some terrain
Walkers - No Walkers for Deldar :(
Elite Infantry - Wych (6.4.2) Sees 2, Blitz
Stealth - Mandrake (5.4.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Hidden, Stealh attack versus Eldar
Heavy Support - Ravager (7.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can rebase, Stealth atatck versus heavy vehicles, Options to Disentigrator
Siege - Disentgrator (Ravager) (9.4.3) Ignores Terrain, Can Rebase
Field Artillery - No field arty, either
Special Weapons - Grotesques (8.4.2) -1 HP, Cheap
Heroes - Heamunculi - (10.4.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden, Steal Attack on Infantry (Except Orks)
AA- Aww hell, who knows?
Super Heavy - Talos (9.7.3) Can Rebase, Ignores Terrain, Collateral Damage, +1 HPs
Champion - Lord with Inncubus (10.10.2) Sees 2, Detects Hidden


Sea Units

You know the drill

Air Units

Flight - Raven
Heavy Fliers - Void Dragon Pheonix

Tau Unit Lines

Starting - Gun Drone (1.1.1) Sorta Expensive but NO UPKEEP
Infantry - Fire Warriors (2.4.1) Defensive Bombard (3.0.1)
Tactics - Kroot (4.2.1)
Mobility - Tetra (2.2.2) Ignores Terrain, Rebase
Mobile Infantry - Devilfish (4.4.2) Defensive Bombard (3.0.1), ZOC, Ignores Terrain, Rebase
Support - Krootox (5.3.1)
Asuualt Infantry - Vespid Stingwings (4.2.2) Defensive Bombard (3.0.1) Paradrop
Fast Attack - Piranah (6.3.2) Ignores Terrain, Defensive Bombard (4.0.1) Rebase
Walkers - XV8 Crisis (7.4.2) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1) +1 HP
Elite Infantry - Pathfinders (6.5.1) Sees 2, Defensive Bombard (3.0.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth - XV25 Stealth Suit (6.5.1) Hidden, Sneak Attack on stuff
Heavy Support - Hammerhead (8.4.2) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1) Ignores Terrain, Rebase
Siege - XV88 Broadsides (7.4.2) Bombards (8.1.2) +1 HP
Field Artillery - Skyray (8.4.2) Bombards (8.2.1) Ignores Terrain, Can Rebase, Air Defense
Special Weapons - Sniper Drones (2.4.1) Bombards (7.1.1) Lethal
Hero - Etheral - (7.7.1) Sees 2, Steath attack on Heroes
AA - Tau Already have an AA unit before this Tech. Oh Joy!
Super Heavy - Kroot (Great) Knarlox (9.6.2) Ignores Jungles, Swamps, Hills, Forest, +1 HP
Champions - Commander (8.5.2) Sees 2, +2 HP, Defensive Bombard (8.0.1) Lethal

Sea Units

Later

Air Units
Flight - Barracuda
Heavy Flier - Manta

Necrons-

Slated for Expansion

Reserved for Hruud (Barbarian) Units

Reserved for Just In case

Here I'll be keeping a list of units for me to do (in case I'll forget them somehow)

Imperial guard
- Comissar
- Psyker

Space marines
- Attack Bike (trike)
- Chaplain / Librarian (I believe muffins made one)

Chaos marines and the lost&damned
- various chaos ships & vehicles

Since Muffins made his space WH 40K models available on turbosquid, and if they are in a similar format to the Galbadian Elite trooper (which I believe they are), then It should be possible to import them into Bryce like I did with the elite trooper, add horns and spikey bits to them and animate them......

Which brings me to the question: which Space Marine type unit would you like "Chaosized" first? I'm planning on waiting until the WH 40K mod gets its turn for the themed competition before I finish the Ork Gargant... unless it ain't for a long time, in which I'll do that next.

Hmmmm... I dunno, the fact that you can import muffs old models makes me happy. Not only will we need Chay-Os versions of junk, but a few orky tings, some which hunter variants of Imperial gaurd stuff, and what not. My Current plan is to get some sort of base unit lines down in text format for the various civs, then make a fancy pciture or soemthing that says a priority of what we need and such. It'll be cool, I promise.

Witch and Deamonhunters are up. Orky Boyz is next

Shouldn't the witchhunters have inquisitors too? :)

Here's a preview of Space Marine Scout:
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/9379/untitledcf9.png (http://imageshack.us)
His animations are pretty easy, and he renders fairly fast, so he should be out soon (I REALLY need a break from the EFZI units, :crazyeye: )

Great work odin :thumbsup:

Looks good, execpt he should maybe have a bolt gun instead of a bolt pistol. Or maybe a Close combat weapon in addition to the pistol. But, other than that, He looks good.

@Aaglo- They do. Its called the Witchhunter. The Inquistor unit is really more of a grand inquistor

Alright, I gave him a knife:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2113/untitledfq0.png (http://imageshack.us)

@odin,
I'd make his legs a bit beefier (to me it looks like he's running around in tights!)... but that might just be me.. It looks great otherwise :thumbsup:

See, I thought i was wearing dockers.

The Blue is the civcolor, right?

Yeah, blue is civcolor and I can beef up his legs.

The Scout is done. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5242303#post5242303)

Thanks odin :thumbsup:

So... any more unit lines Gold? :)

How about collecting all the links to useable units for this mod in one post - or in the race-specific posts by Goldflash? :)

Witch Hunters
Super Heavy- Maybe the Landraider, if you guys can't think of anything better

Daemonhunters
Super Heavy- Landraider (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC

How about a Leviathan for the Witch Hunters; say (12.12.1) +2HPs, Bombard, Wheeled
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/46/unit1004es6.th.gif (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unit1004es6.gif)
and Knights for the Daemonhunters; say (14/6/3) Ignores a buncha terrain
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3114/unit1206jk6.th.gif (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unit1206jk6.gif)

Or the Immolator (http://uk.games-workshop.com/witchhunters/gallery/18/) for the Witch Hunters, although it is based on the Rhino chassis, apparently, so it probably doesnt fit...

No, you are right.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9223/immolatorkc5.th.gif (http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immolatorkc5.gif)

(from Witchhunters Codex)

Their vehicle choices are Chimera/Rhino/Land Raider/Penitant Engine

But that is only 40k, and I was thinking about superheavies (more Epic) and the only Epic rules I have here that are modern enough to even consider the question is NetEpic 4.0. So, I took my best guesses based on the Imperial Guard list. The mobile HQ of the Leviathan seemed to be the sort of thing Witchhunters woulod need, and the Knights seem appropriate for Deamonhunters.

#Edit
Deamonhunter's vehicle choices are Chimera/Rhino/Land Raider/Grey Knight Landraider/Grey Knight Crusader/Grey Knight Dread

You'll notice that the Immolator is already there, in the Heavy Support Slot.

LandRaider stays for the DH but I'm intrested in this Levaithan thing. any more information on it?

How about collecting all the links to useable units for this mod in one post - or in the race-specific posts by Goldflash? :)

I second that, also, I would like to see a list of units still not done.

From Final Liberation
~Departmento ~Munitorium ~Directory ~Prime
~Index: Titan ~Classification: Leviathan
~Inception: Unknown
~Offensive ~Capability: Multiple weapon array
~Options: Battlecannons, Lascannons, Tank Bolters, Doomsday artillery cannon.
~Defensive ~Capability: Four void fields (pulse-phased)
~Powerplant: Classified
~Functionality: Multi-function. Heavy weapon platform, troop transport and armed mobile command function capabilities.

From NetEpic
Leviathan
This is the mobile regimental HQ of the Imperial Guard. With its huge amount of range finders, tactical displays and combat computers it increases the command radius of the whole Imperial Guard army to 35 cm so long as at least one Leviathan remains on the battlefield. The Leviathan may also transport a full Imperial Guard infantry company within its armored walls. A Leviathan counts as a command unit for the Purposes of movement and firing but may be targeted normally. All weapons on the Leviathan have 360 arcs, except the doomsday cannon that has a 90-degree arc to the front. 4 void shields protect the Leviathan.


Troop ..... Move Saving ..... CAF Weapons ............ Range Attack . Roll ... Save Notes
Type .............. Throw ............................................... Dice .... To Hit Mod .................
Leviathan 10 cm Hit location +12 Lascannons ........ 75cm . 6 ........ 5+ ... -1 ... May carry a full company, 4 void shields
..............max . template ......... Battlecannon ...... 75cm . 1 ........ 4+ ... -2
............................................ Doomsday Cannon 200cm d6+3 BP - ..... -3
............................................ Bolters .............. 15cm . 12 ...... 6+ .... +0


This would seem to be an ideal 'mobile' command center for Witch Hunters operating in urban areas. If you want I should be able to find more pics.

I second that, also, I would like to see a list of units still not done.

Ok, should i edit the first post to have a to-do list for units or should Gold edit his posts to include links to those units completed?

I think Gold should edit his posts, so that the names of the units link to the completed units, as opposed to them just being at the beginning or the end of a post.

Here is a random thought for units.

How about having regular units require population but no upkeep, and elite/special units require lots of upkeep but no population.

Ok, here is a copy of Gold's SM unit line post with some links. Gold, if you want to c'n'p this into the original post... :)

Space Morons Marines

Land Units

Starting- Scout (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=213545) (2.2.1) Options to Scout Sniper
Infantry- Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (4.3.1)
Tactics- Heavy Bolter Devestator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (3.4.1)
Mobility- Bike (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (4.2.2) Options to Attack Bike
Mobile Infantry- Rhino (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (4.3.2) ZOC, Options to Razorback (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031)
Support- Missile Devestator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) - (5.3.1) Defensive Bombard (5.0.1)
Assault Infantry- Assault Marine (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=103214) (4.3.2) Paradrops, Razorback (5.3.2)
Fast Attack- Landspeeder (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (5.1.2) Treats all Terrain as roads*, Attack Bike (6.2.2)
Walkers- Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (7.4.1) +1 HP, All terrain as roads*
Elite Infantry- Terminator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (6.5.1) Detects Hidden
Stealth- Scout Sniper (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=248215) (2.2.1) Bombard (7.1.1), Lethal Land, Hidden, Detects Hidden
Heavy Support- Predator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (8.6.2) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Vindicator (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (3.3.2) Bombard (8.2.1)
Field Artillery- Whirlwind (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (3.3.2) Bombard (6.1.2)
Special Weapons- Drop Pod (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121135) - Like a Firaxis Helicopter with a huge range
Heroes- Librarian (6.7.1), See Two Spaces, Defenesive Bombard (6.0.1), Detects Hidden, has memorized the dewey decimal system
AA - Hunter (4.4.2) Air Defense of... some.
Super Heavy- Landraider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115031) (12.10.2) +1 HPs, ZOC
Champion - Chaplain** (8.8.1) Stealth attack versus Heros and other champions.

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Space Marine Barge (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=216855)
Naval War- A different boat
Naval Supremecy We'll worry about that one later

Air Units

Flight - Thunderbolt (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128791) (5.2.0) Bombards (4.0.1) Range 8, Air Superiority
Heavy Flier - Thunderhawk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=128928) (0.4.0) Bombards (10.0.2) Range 8, Carries and can drop two units

How about collecting all the links to useable units for this mod in one post - or in the race-specific posts by Goldflash? :)


Its coming, guys. First I get the lines posted, let you review them, then I'll find the approipriate units, give then a priority, and such.

You'll notice I've posted Orks, Chaos, LaTD, Eldar, and Deldar.

Tau are next

I just updated

DA ORKZ!

Land Units

Starting- Slugga Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181243) (4.1.1) Options to Stikkbomma - *completed by Aaglo*
Infantry- Shootaboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181407) (3.3.1)Options to Big Shoota, Stikbomma (4.2.1), Defensive Bombard (4.0.1) - *completed by Aaglo*
Tactics- Big Shoota (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180672) (3.5.1) - *completed by Aaglo*
Mobility- Warbike (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94290) (5.1.2) - *completed by TGA*
Mobile Infantry- Trukkboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93920) (4.2.2) ZOC - *completed by TGA*
Support- Tankbusta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178879) (5.3.1) - *completed by Aaglo*
Promethieum Refinement- Burna Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181028) (6.1.1) - *completed by Aaglo*
Assault Infantry- Stormboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119709)(5.4.2) Paradrop - *completed by Aaglo*
Fast Attack- Buggy (6.3.2) - NEEDED
Walkers- Killa Kan (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95487) (7.4.1) +1 HP, Treats all terrain as roads - *completed by TGA*
Elite Infantry- Skarboyz (7.5.1) Sees Hidden - NEEDED
Stealth- Kommandoez (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=120767) - (6.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry - *completed by Aaglo*
Heavy Support- Looted Leman Russ (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104010) (8.5.2) +1 HP, Defesnive Bombard (7.0.1) - *completed by Hikaro*
Siege- Lobba (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112239) (1.1.1) Bombards (7.2.1) - *completed by Aaglo*
Field Artillery- Kannon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112230) (1.1.1) Bombards (6.1.2) - *completed by Aaglo*
Special Weapons - Zapp Gun (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119819) (4.4.1) Bombards (9.1.1) Lethal Land - *completed by Aaglo*
Heroes- Nobz (8.6.1) Sneak attack versus Armor (Power Claw) and Early Game Orks (Weedy Gitz!) - NEEDED
AA- Flak Trukk (4.4.2) AA of Some! - NEEDED
Super Heavy- Battlewagon (13.9.2) ZOC, Bombards (6.1.2) +2 HP - NEEDED
Champion- Warboss (9.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes - NEEDED

Sea Units

Naval Transport
Naval Warfare
Naval Supremecy

Air Units

Flight- Fightabomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95922) - *completed by TGA*
Heavy Fliers- 'Eavy Bomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95922) - *completed by TGA*

Holy Crap, Guys. I'll take care of it. Stop with the links already.

Tau are done. Now I'll start on Unique Units

Hey Hikaro, the Themed Comp this month is "Sci-Fi" ;)

Yeah, I know, and I will be digging up the Ork Gargant as soon as I get a few last touches done to my most recent unit that I finished last thursday, as well as finish adding sound to two more units that I'm going to be adding to the FF mod. Work on the Gargant should resume by Wednesday at the latest.

Goldflash,
Do spacemarines & imperial guard need sea transports?

EDIT: of course, this is just a WIP... :)

EDIT2: If transport ships are needed, I was also thinking about making ships to other races too :)

Oh, that looks good! Like an amphibious Rhino, or something!

Updated preview - still thinking about the side-sponsons (similar are found in Land-raiders).
And the turrets need some weaponry in them.

Sweet! And yeah, all the races need ships (I think).

Yes., they do, though muffins made some based on Battfleet Gothic Imperial Ships. I was thinking of using them more for the Imperial Gaurd than the Space Marines, so that thing (Assault Barge?) would be great for the Marine Boyz.

I recall those battlefleet-gothic ships being spaceships (meaning: no splashy water graphics in them). How will they look over the seas?

And should all the ships in this mod be "flying spaceships"?

EDIT: Just as I thought - I was wrong... they are sea-going ships :D
I think the space marines could use some of the imperial ships. Or all. Because they just look that good :) - but anyway, I'll finish this ship, wether you'll use it or not... :)

Here's a latest update on the space moron trance-sport.

Looks great! Quite heavily armed for a transport, which is good :thumbsup:

Well, yeah. When space marines go to war, they mean business. They're not going to use some blow-up rafts that can be sunk by a pointy stick :)

Like I said.. Assualt Barge

@ Gold: Do you need/want help with UUs for some of the factions?

So, Gold & Lizzy and the rest of you people,
Any suggestions on changes/improvements on the assault barge?

None from me.

Nothing from me either, it looks great :thumbsup:

Yeah, looks good!

Ok, Here's the assault barge.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=216855

Thanks aaglo :)

So, uh, had any time to check out Poser yet, LMR? ;)

How about a chaos version?

Yes, please :D

@ Odin: just looking for utah's (i think it was utah's) tutorial at the moment. i downloaded the second second download - the CD stuff - and spent ages trying to figure out how to load the damn thing...

:wallbash:

...but then i realised there was another download, and now it works :)

here's an updated chaos assault barge.

*drools at pointy death machine*

*holds bucket for Odin*

looks great mate :thumbsup:

Looks Good - especially the Chaos version.

(when you said said sea transport I thought you meant something looking like this
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4096/gorgonp8sb2.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gorgonp8sb2.jpg)
a Gorgon, Super-heavy Amphibious Assault Transport)

:bounce: OMG, aaglo, its wonderfull! Thanks mate!

(My first post in the Workshop - hi everyone! :wavey:)

Looks Good - especially the Chaos version.

(when you said said sea transport I thought you meant something looking like this {image removed} a Gorgon, Super-heavy Amphibious Assault Transport)

Well, I used a land-raider as a starting point for the model, and then made just something out of it. I could have gone that way too, but I wanted it to look more like a naval ship than just a troop transport.

Thanks guys :)

And welcome aboard, Stormy.

Thanks. Dave has Poser? Thats great news! :bounce:

Chaos Assault barge looks great!

BTW, I'll start on my first (in a long, long time) WH 40K unit contribution as soon as I wrap up my 4 LH run (which as you all know usually takes about a week tops for me to make that many LHs)

Chaos space marine assault barge is done (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=217410)

Sweet! Thanks!

Bout Time you got here, Stormy. Anyway, I've been slacking with the things I need to do, So I'll go finish the Space Marine units. Are you people even looking at my lists? I haven't got a single comment on some of them.

I'm looking :) Do you need help with any?

I have looked at the lists, and thought:
"I'll buy those lists :) - and the stats might change in the end, so I haven't considered them much. But what I am interested in, is the list of units we need graphics for." :).

Well, if you want to finish of the Orks we need a Warbuggy, Flak Trukk, Battlewagon, Nob, Warboss and Skarboyz :)

Or you can start on just about any Eldar/Deldar units you want

Are you people even looking at my lists? I haven't got a single comment on some of them.

1: In general I would like to see some defensive units that have high enough def+HP to make them usefull to protect the fancy stuff (the way infantry have higher defence than tanks in the regular game. From your listed numbers Marines / IG / Witchhunters / Demonhunters seem to suffer from this.

2: Given the scale of the game, I think the lists should include more Titan/Superheavy units.

3: IG - how about Thud Guns

4: Whichhunters - how about orbital strike.

... I'll give some more uniformed opinions after taking another look at some codexes.

Deamonhunters should get the orbital strike, too.

I should get one also. :yumyum:
I`ll check out those lists ASAP.

I was thinking of keeping the Titans untill the Expansion.

Boing!
Here's another graphic I'd like to make. You might notice, that the claw is from an older model I did, but the rest of it is quite different :)

Ork Nob!
So, what should be changed here?
- colours (change this or that colour to another colour, reduce the amount of civ-colours)
- shapes (remove the stupid shoulderguards/bosspole figure/jaw)
- what else?

Cheers,
aaglo

Heh, a Nob. Led Zeppelin actually played as "The Nobs" when they performed in Copenhagen, because Eva von Zeppelin (related to the dude who created zeppelins) has pissed at them for their cover art (the Hindenburg), so they changed their name for the performance.


On topic, I think he looks really good. Ready to kick some Space Marine ass.

The only thing i can think of is to maybe make the horns on his helmet a little bigger.

But it looks awesome :thumbsup:

Waagh! Cool :)

Could go with bigger horns, doesn`t really have to if you don`t feel like it.

Ork boss is done:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906

Cheers :thumbsup:

I just dug up this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95391

It has some useful (but obsolete) info on ... stuff. And... things too.

Thanks aaglo. Looked through it and there are some good ideas there for the Orks, like Lootas enslaving "Loot" which can then be upgraded to a Looted Leman or something.

I was looking at the UK WH40K site the onther day and found the Feral Orks army list, and i thought it might be good as the Snakebitez unit list in this mod. so, here are my suggestions (some have links to possible units):

Snakebitez

Starting- Wild Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=117205) (4.1.1) Options to Stikkbomma, replaces Slugga Boy

Infantry- Hunta (3.3.1) Options to Big Shoota, Stikbomma (4.2.1), Defensive Bombard (4.0.1), replaces Shoota Boy

Mobility- Boar Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=117205) (5.1.2) replaces Warbike

Mobile Infantry- Junkatrukk (4.2.2) ZOC, replaces Trukkboyz

Assault Infantry- Madboyz (5.4.1) replaces Stormboyz

Fast Attack- Cyboar Boy (6.3.2) replaces Buggy

Elite Infantry- Brutes (7.5.1) Sees Hidden, replaces Skarboyz

Stealth- Trappaz- (6.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry, replaces Kommandoz

Heroes- Wyrdboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=188408) (8.6.1) Sneak attack versus Early Game Orks (Weedy Gitz!), detects invisible, replaces Nob

Super Heavy- Squiggoth (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=110946) (13.9.2) ZOC, Bombards (6.1.2) +2 HP, replaces Battlewagon

No Kannons, Zzap Guns or Killa Kanz

Yeah, thats prettyu similar to what I was going to post.

How does this look for a sniper? (I'm not sure about the weapon, though).
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/525/untitledfd5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Should he lose the goggles?
Other than that, I think it's okay (maybe the rifle should be longer, but that's not such a big deal I think).

Here's a preview of something I started doing while waiting for PM from Goldflash: an Ork Transport. It looks still a bit silly, but orks are that way. And it's still a WIP-image. I have still some things to add, like:
- chimneys (propably small ones on all those spheres in the back or only two larger ones)
- I think I'll propably have to change the colours around, but I'll wait for your comments on that one (maybe mostly grays on this one).

Cheers!

Needs to be more spiky and menacing, and.... orky.

Anyway, I made the gun longer and added an eyepiece instead (seeing as he's a sniper)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6947/dudenn9.png (http://imageshack.us)

both of them look great guys :thumbsup:

@ aaglo: some spikes would look good too :)

@Odin,
The eyepiece looks great :thumbsup:
But I'm not sure about the rifle - it doesn't look like a sniper rifle - altough I have absolutely no idea what do future sniper rifles look like :). And I don't think that's such a big issue in the finished unit...

About the ork transport
This looks a bit better IMO. This is based a bit on an ork landa (I've seen a pic of it once)... But is the ork-head a stupid idea here?

That looks much better!

And the Ork head is good!

:lol: I like it! And the sniper too!

Odin? What are the chances of you beefing up the Scouts a bit? I`mean, scouts are fully grown Marines, who are huge compared to "mortals" even without their power armour.

Okay, I'll beef up the sniper.

I like the Ork head :D

Any more unique units, Gold?

How about Tyrannic War Vet. for the Ultramarines?

I think that Ultramarines are supposed to be the "vanilla" Space Marines, ie. they have all the Space Marines units, while the other chapters get "Unique Units" so to speak.

but saying that, i guess they do need a unique units for themselves, right?

EDIT: The only "UU" the Ultramarines have in the tabletop game (according to the UK 40K site) is the Tyranid Hunter, which i guess is kinda the same as what you said, right?

Yup, it's the exact same thing :)

I have a question.. can Muffins` models be animated in Poser?

Yeah, but they'd be a b*tch to rig in Poser... but I could try (eventually) because I know you hate the Vanishing Point WH40K models.

Maybe someone else could rig them, someone with more exp. points? :)

Like Unky Vuldacon or Unky Plot? Plotinus likes chalenges...

Well, Plotinus would certainly be capable of doing it (his tutorial covered the same thing, but with clothes) but I don't know if he would want to...

I`ll go pull some strings, you might have noticed I`m awfull lucky with requesting stuff lately ;)

Haha! Do you feel lucky, punk?

Yeah, my holidays are finished - I might be able to pull something fancy for WH40K-world (I'm currently reading Gav Thorpe's Last Chancers - an omnibus of three novels and three short stories - and those boys are real badasses :) )

Well, I got un-lucky :p

Odin, they`re all yours! ;) But shouldn`t we concentrate on other stuff, we have enough units to begin with. But we are not begining! Goldy, how`s that tech-tree coming along? :)

I might be able to pull something fancy for WH40K-world

If you were to pull something fancy, what fancy something might it be? :mischief:

Giant Robots! Or something completely different... I still haven't figured out :p

How bout an Avatar of Khaine for the Eldar? ;) He`s giant, and a bad-ass :D

Ok, Wyrm's having a unit lottery. vehicles only, and no robots.

do you think we should request a WH40K vehicle? Something Eldar or Tau maybe?

I already reserved a 40k spot :) So, any ideas? I`m baffled..

Well, considering Wyrm's instructions to request tanks, ships, aircraft, other vehicles etc. it would be wise to request a vehicle. Duh :p But probably one that would be relatively easy to make. so no troops near it (so no Ork trukks or buggies)

The units that we need (according to Gold's unit lines) that fit the bill are:
* Razorback (SM)
* Hunter AA (SM)
* Immolater (WH)
* Exorcist (WH)
* Gryphon (IG)
* Wave Serpent (Eld)
* Devilfish (Tau)
* Hammerhead (Tau)
* Skyray (Tau)
* Piranha (Tau)
* Raider (DE)
* Ravager (DE)
* Talos (DE)
* Battlewagon (Ork)

Of course there are the variations on units for the SM chapters UUs, but i think it would be best to get the "vanilla" stuff done first.

So, as i see it we have three options:

1) Try and finish off the needed vehicles for the Space Marines, Witch Hunters and Imperial Guard vehicles; or

2) Request a unit that we think we would have a hard time getting otherwise; or

3) The one we think would be the coolest :D

Personally, i would like to see the Hammerhead get made, or one of the other Tau vehicles, since i think Orky stuff iz best leff to da expurtz (aaglo ;))

But we should discuss it as a team :)

What do others think?

But.. we already have a Razorback? :hmm:

The Imperial Tanks use the Rhino chasis.. which we have access to, so we can get those done anytime, IMO.

Any pics of a Hunter, tho?

We also have 3 Eldar Tanks.. I think something Tau would be nice to get. Anything. Even the lil` Piranha :)

Instead of the Hunter, I suggest we use the already-made Tarantula.

With that done, we don't need any non-biological SM units!

But.. we already have a Razorback? :hmm:

The Imperial Tanks use the Rhino chasis.. which we have access to, so we can get those done anytime, IMO.

Any pics of a Hunter, tho?

We also have 3 Eldar Tanks.. I think something Tau would be nice to get. Anything. Even the lil` Piranha :)

So we do, i musta missed the Razorback when i was looking.

Instead of the Hunter, I suggest we use the already-made Tarantula.

With that done, we don't need any non-biological SM units!

I like that idea. After that we would only need an Attack Bike (which is different to the regular bikes i assume), Scout Sniper, Psyker and Commissar to finish off Gold's vanilla line

VC, any opinion on what we should request?

Not yet. The fact that Wyrm doesn't want to make Space Ships rules out most Eldar/Tau...

For the Imperial Guard, we could either request a Vulture of a Griffon (however it's spelt?)

They're not really spaceships, they are just not tracked tanks ;)

Yeah, with a very TANKY design :D

I think Muffins made the Griphon, its just called different. I`ll go look for it later.

So, maybe a Vulture then? I like Vultures, always wanted a unit like that :)

What is a Vulture? Haven't heard of it before...

What do you guys think of these UUs for the Orks (Goffs are in Gold's post on pg 1)
DA ORKZ!

Land Units

Starting- Slugga Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181028) (4.1.1) Options to Stikkbomma
Infantry- Shootaboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181407) (3.3.1)Options to Big Shoota, Stikkbomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116253) (4.2.1), Defensive Bombard (4.0.1)
Tactics- Big Shoota (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=180672) (3.5.1)
Mobility- Warbike (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94290) (5.1.2)
Mobile Infantry- Trukkboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906) (4.2.2) ZOC
Support- Tankbusta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=178879) (5.3.1)
Promethieum Refinement- Burna Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=181028) (6.1.1)
Assault Infantry- Stormboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119709) (5.4.2) Paradrop
Fast Attack- Buggy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=249496) (6.3.2)
Walkers- Killa Kan (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95487) (7.4.1) +1 HP, Treats all terrain as roads
Elite Infantry- Skarboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252739) (7.5.1) Sees Hidden
Stealth- Kommandoz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=120767)- (6.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry
Heavy Support- Looted Leman Russ (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104010) (8.5.2) +1 HP, Defesnive Bombard (7.0.1)
Siege- Lobba (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112239) (1.1.1) Bombards (7.2.1)
Field Artillery- Kannon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112230) (1.1.1) Bombards (6.1.2)
Special Weapons - Zzap Gun (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119819) (4.4.1) Bombards (9.1.1) Lethal Land
Heroes- Nob (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253121) (8.6.1) Sneak attack versus Armor (Power Claw) and Early Game Orks (Weedy Gitz!)
AA- Flak Trukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606) (4.4.2) AA of Some!
Super Heavy- Battlewagon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251525) (13.9.2) ZOC, Bombards (6.1.2) +2 HP
Champion- Warboss (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906) (9.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes

Sea Units

Naval Transport- Waaagh Barge (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=221016)
Naval Warfare - Kroozer
Naval Supremecy - Battlekroozer

Air Units

Flight- Fightabomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95922)
Heavy Fliers- 'Eavy Bomma (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95922)

Goffs

Stormierboyz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=119709) (6.3.3) Paradrop, Replaces Stormboy
Ork Dreadnaught (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95487) (8.5.2) +2 HP, Upgrade of Killa Kan, Forge Tech
Warlord (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253121) (10.7.1) Sees 2, Sneak Attack Versus Champions and Heroes and Armor

No Buggies, Kommandoz, or Zzap Guns

Blood Axes
Looted Basilisk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.3.2) Bombards (6.3.2) replaces Kannon
Mekboy (7.6.1) replaces Nob, a ork, smaller than a nob, armed with a big spanna and a kustom blasta
Blood Axe Kommando (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253121) (6.4.1) Sees Hidden, Hidden, Sneak Attack versus Infantry, replaces Kommando

No Stormboyz

Snakebites
Wild Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (3.2.1), replaces Slugga Boy
Hunta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (4.3.1), replaces Shoota Boy
Boar Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=117205) (5.1.2), sees hidden, replaces Warbike
Junkatrukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93920) (5.1.2), replaces Trukkboyz
Mad Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (6.4.1), replaces Stormboyz
Cyboar Boy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252739) (6.3.2), sees hidden, +1 HP, replaces Buggy
Brute (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=116632) (8.5.1), replaces Skar Boyz
Trappa (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252075) (7.4.1), sees hidden, hidden, sneak attack vs infantry, replaces Kommando
Wyrdboy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=188408) (7.7.1) Defensive Bombard (7.0.1), sees hidden, replaces Nob
Squiggoth (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=110946) (14.9.2) ZOC, +2 HP, replaces Battlewagon

No Burna Boyz, Kannons or Zzap Guns

Evil Sunz
Outrider (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251525) (6.2.3) replaces WarbikeWartrak (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218906) (7.3.2) replaces Buggy
Deth Kopta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251728) (6.3.2) rebase, paradrop, special unit at Flight
Guntrukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606) (1.1.2) Bombards (6.1.2), replaces kannon
Mekboy (7.6.1) replaces Nob, see above
Big Mek (8.8.1) Sees 2, replaces Warboss, armed similarly to the mekboy, but with a kustom force field on his back and an even bigger spanna, maybe the force field could feature in the fidget or the fortify animation

No Killa Kans or Lobbas

Death Skullz
Loota (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=252739) (5.4.1) replaces Tankbustas
Looted Chimera (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.2.2) ZOC, replaces Trukkboyz but are cheaper
Looted Basilisk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250938) (3.3.2) Bombards (6.3.2) replaces Kannon
Looted Baneblade (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=94603) (14.7.2) +2 HP, replaces Battlewagon
Mekboy (7.6.1) replaces Nob, see above

No Kommandoz

Bad Moonz
Flash Gitz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121443) (8.6.1) Sees Hidden, replaces Skar Boyz
Wartrak Scorcha (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=249496) (7.3.2) ZOC, replaces Buggy
Deth Kopta (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251728) (6.3.2) rebase, paradrop, special unit at Flight
Blasta Trukk (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606) (4.4.1) Bombards (10.1.2) replaces Zzap Gun

No Stormboyz

We would need gfx for all of those? Here is a Vulture:

http://coolminiornot.com/51728

Well, we have a looted baneblade by muffins, the basilisk doesnt really have to be changed, and the chimera probably would'nt need to change either

we have a squiggoth, boar boyz, wyrdboyz (orc shaman) and wild boyz (orc swordsmen)

the brute could even use the black orc graphics

outriders could probably use warbike graphics, the junkatrukk could use wartrukk graphics, and huntas could use shoota boy graphics. of course, different pedia pics would be great (like in the WH mod to differentiate mage units)

new units would be wartrakz (only one cos i could probably do a scorcha version like i did with the hellhound), Deff Koptaz, Mekboyz, Big Meks, Lootas, Cyboar Boyz, Trappaz, well, actually, all the ones i didnt mention before :)

so quite a few, it'd be great to get them all. the hunta, for example could be the same as the shoota boyz except for some feathers sticking out of a bandana or something.

of course, these are not essential, and some could be left out of the first version to make it faster

I think we should concentrate on getting the Zeta (oh, Catherine) version out there and worry about the shiny stuff later :)

So, we`re going with the Vulture in the lottery, or what?

Where is Gold? :hmm:

Oh, crap. Sorry guys, but I used my vote in Wyrm's lottery for a Star Wars unit. (Gimme a break, that mod needs to get something done! ;))

Personally, i would like to see the Hammerhead get made, or one of the other Tau vehicles, since i think Orky stuff iz best leff to da expurtz (aaglo ;))

Smoking Mirror did a Hammerhead. He posted it here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104679&highlight=WH40k). It seems to be fine, unless you guys have some reason to not use it.

That's fine odin, don't feel too bad (unless you win, then you'll feel my wrath. Waaagh! ;))

He did too, i had forgotten about that. Good enough for now, I would rather like a new one though. But i think we can go with the Vulture; try and get the Imperial Guard (:mischief:) sorted good and proper.

What is the Vulture's role? Transport? Like the Firaxis heli?

and odin, any news on the scout sniper? perhaps we could request a sniple rifle prop in bjorn's lottery thingy?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/RavenAttackA.gif http://uk.games-workshop.com/eldar/gallery/images/Eldar_WarWalker_lg.jpg

Would this do as a placeholder for the Eldar War Walker?

It would do as a placeholder, sure :)

I think a Vulture is more of an attack chopper, I think thats the role of gunships, no? The Thunderhawk is a transport. Also, I think its more IG than SM :)

@odin, thats OK :) Oh, and I think Smoking Mirror was smoking something ilegal when he created that oh, so colorfull Hammerhead..

Yep, that is the role of gunship.

And i said Imperial Guard... :mischief:

Oh, and i requested a Commissar in utah's lottery thing too

You know, he`s not going to be much of a Soviet if he gets a power fist :mischief: Commissars always reminded me of Nazis tho.. prolly cos of the Gestapo trenchcoat :crazyeye:

So.. Vulture it is? Everyone? say "aye" :)

:lol: even Utahjazz joined in with us :D

at the moment we have 7 outta 51 replies, so thats a 13.73% chance of winning :D

well, perhaps he could make a version without a powerfist too :lol:

i was just trying to make it seem more attractice by it having multiple uses...

and odin, any news on the scout sniper? perhaps we could request a sniple rifle prop in bjorn's lottery thingy?

Uh... I'll get to him. I'm finishing my flamethrower dudes now (I swear this time!) so I'll finish the sniper after that) unless I get another crazy urge to finish a unit in a few hours (like I have been lately.) I have a decent prop for a sniper rifle, and I'm sure if I got off my ass I could find a good one. I'll finish him eventually, ;). Also, do you guys want him to shoot lasers or bullets?

Good question. i would presume that sniper rifles would shoot bullets but im not sure...

Bullets are easier. Plus, lasers create a flash. Which is bad for snipers in the dark, ;).

Very true :D

and you can take you time, since there is no deadline :)

Hey guys, has anyone DL-ed and checked out those Vanishing Point Marines? It ocurred to me that they look so weird cos they are hunched, like a dead droid from Star Wars :lol: I mean, maybe they`ll look OK if they are standing straight up. I uninstalled Poser, can someone please check them out?

I'll take a look at them.

After seeing Dawg's Spec Op, i thought that using the laser to "paint" a target for a missile would work very well for Tau Pathfinders and their marker lights, using them to direct railgun fire or something.

Thoughts?

Thats a great idea! Now we just need some Tau Pathfinders ;)

Yeah. And what is aaglo planning on making, anyway? Hmm...

I don't know yet.

Well... could you try a Vulture? Pov-Ray is just as good with vehicles as is Bryce.. :)

When it comes to me, pov-ray is better for everything compared to bryce (not having ever used bryce...).

I'll keep that vulture in mind.

Well, if you want to finish of the Orks we need a Warbuggy, Flak Trukk, Battlewagon, Nob, Warboss and Skarboyz :)

So, we need these - altough the Nob (or warboss) is already done.
I think I could rather easily modify the war trukk & war trak to make the warbuggy, flak trukk & battlewagon... they'd be easier to do first I think :)

Sounds good :)

So, we need these - altough the Nob (or warboss) is already done.
I guess we'll need a Warboss (or Nob) then too :mischief:

I think I could rather easily modify the war trukk & war trak to make the warbuggy, flak trukk & battlewagon... they'd be easier to do first I think :)
Sounds very good :D

Didn`t aaglo made a nob before? The first dude with a huge claw (old one, when he first started with orks?)? I`m still confused with orky names.

he made the ork boss earlier this year, which can be used as either a nob or a warboss, so depending on which one it is used for, the other needs to be done.

i think the one with the powerclaw you are thinking of might be the flash git? :hmm:

I think Lizzy's got it right here. I've done two orks with a power claw: flash git (the original) and a ork warboss/nob - I don't know which one would that be usable as (the derivate).

The great apple also made an ork in mega armour: it also has a power claw and a blaster of some sort (with a laser targetting beam :) )

And I'm not an old-one as far as I know. I'm not familiar with Khaine and dat bunch-o-pansies :p

I found some pics of various gun & battle wagons (including flak-one) on the forge world... and they look nothing like the war truk I already made... they're more like the battlewagon... so I guess I'll make some sort of crude tank for orks to be modified further to make ... stuff for orks :)

And the war scorcha should be a piece of cake to make too (from the war trak).

Whats the difference between a nob and a flash git? I thought flash gitz were .. "rich" nobs.. Or they only belong to a specific clan?

I think that the flash git is a bad moonz unique unit - hence the bad moon logo on the shoulder pad :)

flash gits are rich elite troops, but nobs are bigger and therefore more important :D

And aaglo's right about the Bad Moonz

Here's a warbuggy WIP-preview.
Any suggestions? Like: should there be a waving banner of somesort?

I think it is perfect as it is :D

For the battlewagon, this (http://www.the-waaagh.com/battlewagon-faq/bw1.html) article has some cool pictures of battlewagons you might be able to draw some inspiration from :)

the design is perfect, but isn`t it a bit too large?

the warbuggy needs to be about the size of the wartrak, so it is a tad big

Ok, I'll make it a bit smaller. And I'll see how it'll turn out if I remove the pole from the rear (it's kinda stupid), and staple the "ork head" in the front of the car... :)

Sorry about bringing up such an old issue...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/RavenAttackA.gif http://uk.games-workshop.com/eldar/gallery/images/Eldar_WarWalker_lg.jpg

Would this do as a placeholder for the Eldar War Walker?

Definitely yes. If any colour conversion on that is possible, then I don't know if we wouldn't even need a "proper" eldar war walker.

Well, that's my opinion atleast.

Since you or Orthanc are the only people that could make a fresh one, and Orthanc ain`t taking requests for some time, I`m cool with the placeholder till you lose your patience and decide to make something new and shiny ;)

As opposed to the old and dusty things for orks? Right :)

Wait.a.minute.

I think that Wyrmshadow has the eldar war walker model. He showed once a preview of it (in the old WH40k-thread in the main C&C-forum).

EDIT:
Yep, here's the post (in the ancient WH40k-thread):
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2637007&postcount=591

Looks like an eariler edition, but it`ll do just fine :D

Perhaps TopGun69 can animate it for us? Or some of our guys..

In my opinion, this is already looking better. The ork-plaque in the front looks crazy enough... atleast that's what I think.

And the size comparison to the wartrak - I think it's pretty close on the mark :thumbsup: ... or what do you think :confused:

Here's a Work-In-Process preview of War Scorcha :)

.. awesome! all of it! Weeeee!

Looks great! :thumbsup:

Holy shiite! A bunch of orky stuff to blow up, :cool:

I'm glad that Lizzy has been updating his post #135 in this thread - now I've added it to my sig, under tittle things for me to do. :)

Two-three years ago it seemed like an impossible task to have various ork klans, but now it doesn't seem too bad :)


About the warboss/nob -issue. The original post by Goldflesh mentioned the nob having a power-klaw... now the thing I've done you've placed as a ork warboss....

And looking at most of the pics of nobs & warbosses... I think you've (Lizzy'smenhood) got it right. Warboss has a power-klaw, and nobs have a choppa of some sort - unless they're packing a heavy weapon.

So maybe I'll just do a puny nob instead of 'uge warlord.
And a mekboy.
And a big mek.
And a looted basilisk.
And a flak trukk.
And a battlewagon.
And a loota.
And a skarboy.
And a gunwagon.
And a def kopta (that should be fun to do :) ).
And an outrider.
And a hunta.
And a madboy.
And a cyboar boy (that should be horrible to do :( ).
And a trappa.
And a looted chimera.
And a small shooty boat.
And a big shooty boat.

What's that... mere 18 orky units... that's nothing ;) :p

EDIT: BTW, I'm not sure if I've only had a dream, but is there somewhere a looted leman russ tank?

Yay, the orks are gonna be Waaaghing soon(ish ;))

Hikaro made a very good Looted Russ a while back.

here it is: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104010

Okay! Should that be used as a cannon replacement for Deaf Skullz? They seem to be having a lot of those looted things...?

Or as a guntrukk for Evil sunz?

EDIT: Ignore me... the looted leman russ is already mentioned available as a default for oks.

So maybe I'll just do a puny nob instead of 'uge warlord.

Could you still make a Warlord for the Goffs, like this guy?:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/orks/gallery/images/ghazghkull.gif

Pleeeeease! :p

Who's he? He looks mean... (I know who he is, the question's here just to make a funny comment... :rolleyes: )

Just one question: what's that on his other hand? The other is clearly a cruncha-klaw, but the other is... a juice mixer? Or is that a gun pointing downwards, with two large drum clips on top & side? I blame the bad angle picture :p

Its a kustom shoota. Its actually part of the mega armour, so he's not holding it

Gotcha. I also found a close-up picture of it (not very big though).
http://www.wargamestore.com/images/thumbs/gw5018_pic4.jpg

But that's not as special as it should be. He should have something like this bad moonz warboss has :)
http://fr.games-workshop.com/40k/orks/modelisme/nazdreg/img/001b.jpg

Guess you could make that one too! ;) :lol:

That looks like a kustom blasta to me

w00t! Ghazkhull Mag Urug Trakka! Probably not the correct name, but I did type it without going over to GW of opening the codex. But you are right, the other one has a better weapon.

:lol: he has an Imperial Fist`s plate on his klaw, he probably liked the colors :D

That looks like a kustom blasta to me
Blasta? Like a fusion blaster? That's what I thought too...

w00t! Ghazkhull Mag Urug Trakka! Probably not the correct name, but I did type it without going over to GW of opening the codex. But you are right, the other one has a better weapon.

:lol: he has an Imperial Fist`s plate on his klaw, he probably liked the colors :D
Yep, Mr. Nazdreg has a better weapon, but that's propably too fancy for Mr. Ghazghkull...
What plate? The one with a fist? I thought that particular fist design is used mainly by orks... well, hoo kares! It looks great!

The blasta is S: 7, AP: 2, Assault 1, Blast, and Gets Hot! as per plasma weapons, so a roll of one causes a wound to the shooter, armour saves allowed.

So... not knowing jack about WH40K-weaponology, that's a plasma gun? Or a fusion blaster? I still don't know which :lol:

One little advice to those who are thinking about rendering a lot of fire (with matching lights) with intention of doing it in a reasonable amount of time with pov-ray: Don't. :lol:

Buggy is finished, now rendering warscorcha. I'll post them both on a pack in a couple of hours.

Fusion Blasters are Tau. Blasta`s are Orky Plasma guns, IIRC. Not sure if the Fusion Blasters are Tau Plasma guns tho.

Thats great news aaglo :)

So, Tau are only using fusion blasters? Well, that's kinda new. Not even Eldar? Weird...

I wonder if this could be used as some sort of attack drone for this mod. I think this is so cool, and I just happened to stumble on it in the downloads section (haven't seen it in the unit forums at all :eek: )

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7234

Tau are the only ones usind Drones.. looks like a good placeholder.
I haven`t seen it before either.

Okay, the buggy and scorcha have been posted:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=249496

Aaglo
- 1000 shields (its the game`s maximum IIRC, he`s worth more :))
- autoproduces units every turn. Sometimes even more of them at once :D

Thanks aaglo!

I have a question for you guys. What UUs should the vanilla civs have?

For example, if we were to make the Killa Kan the Freebooterz UU, then all the other clans would have Killa Kans able to start Golden Ages. same with the ultramarines, if we used a default unit.

someone (cant remember who off the top of my head, sorry :() suggested a Tyrannic War Veteran for the Ultramarines UU, which is just about the only unique thing they have, but since the Nids arent in the mod (yet, anyways ;)), that seems a bit odd.

the Freebooterz could have 'Ard Boyz rather than Skarboyz i guess (since i love my 'ard boyz and would like to seem them in :D)

Discuss :)

Vanilla civs?

Ultramarines: Terminus pattern land raider? (was that the landraider with 5 las cannons?)

And I really don't know well enough of those different ork klans. Or as the matter of fact, any of the WH40k-"civs". I'll have to study more on them :)

By vanilla i meant the "default" civs (such as the Ultramarines, Freebooterz and Ulthwe) that have all the default units, and the other "clans" all have lists based on the 'vanilla' one

Ok.

About the killa kans: don't we have two variants from it - the other could be available only to the freebooters?

And what about that terminus pattern landraider? Wouldn't it be cool :thumbsup:

Terminus pattern is the worst design in the history of worst designs. Ever. Its so obvious "Not Even Pretending To Be Interested In How It Looks And Plays On The Board,Lets Just Make Money And Make Things Dumber So We Can Take Money From Less Intelligent Kids Too". As someone, somewhere once said: I`m against it. And its not unique to Ultramarines.

Tyrannic War Weterans are, tho. An explanation to them in the mod could be - well.. they killed all the Tyranids before we made the mod.

Or we could make the Nids barbs, rather than the Hruud, since the Nids are an actual 40K army and should be represented, in my opinion.

Then the Tyranid Hunters can stealth attack the Nids. We already have a Ravener-like unit (Navy Dawg's), and i guess we could use that Alien unit as a Gaunt of some discription.

Good idea for the Kanz, aaglo. might as well use them both, it'd be a waste not too :D

I agree on both accounts with LizardmenRule!

I don't understand what's so uncool about the terminus..? Isn't it just a landraider with an alternative weapons configuration? Well, okay, just forgedaboudit then. :)

Terminus had Cool Potential. But they messed up, badly. There is a general consensus on the various 40k forums that its pretty much a slap in the face. And these guys are.. nerds to the bone. They make whole studies of 40k stuff. Anyway, sorry for my outburst a few posts up, if it makes you happy you`re welcome to make one. Unlike real tanks, Civ3 units actually have to turn and face the enemy, so its design flaws won`t be noticable in Civ.

It took a while, but here it is. A preview of ork flak truk.

It's based on the forge world's war wagon model.
Suggestions on colours? (I thought of making it in camo, because We hafta see dem flying weedy gitz befur dey see us!)

Awesome! Good point with the camo :)

I agree. Looks great, aaglo :thumbsup:

Happy to hear you like it so far :)

How about replacing the red bitz with goldy bitz? Or do proper orks even use golden colour in their gear? Or is it too flashy (then it would be suitable for bad moonz, but no other)...

I think that those red parts in that vehicle don't feel "correct". Maybe some brass/brown colour would do well there.

...Anyway, sorry for my outburst a few posts up, if it makes you happy you`re welcome to make one. Unlike real tanks, Civ3 units actually have to turn and face the enemy, so its design flaws won`t be noticable in Civ.
Not that I desperately would want to do it, I only thought of it looking just awesome. And I didn't know it had desing flaws in the tabletop. What are those BTW? The thing that it can fire all its weapons on a target only when completely facing the enemy - or is it that it cannot fire the rear sponson lascannons at an enemy directly in front of it?

Well, gold (or yellow) is only used by the Bad Moonz (and my NiteHorkz ;)), so probably best not to use it. Red paint makes Orky vehicles go fasta, but i dont think speed is something a flak unit really needs to worry about. so i guess a brass/brown colour would be fine :D

not that i really matters to me :)

I also thought of using that chassis as a base for:
- gun wagon as a kannon replacement
- looted basilisk cannon, I know, the chassis isn't even close to basilisk's, but I figured the orks found the gun in the basilisk to be ok, so they just removed it from the basilisk wreck, and bolted it into one of their spare truks (and they have loads of them!)
- and maybe even a zzap wagon, a zzap gun replacement for evil sunz (or would that make them over-powered to have many fast mobile arty units).
- with some added modifications (read: upscaling EVERYTHING) this could be transformed into a battlewagon.

i think one fast artillery unit is enough for the sunz, although we can add one in when testing to see whether it is too overpowered, then you can make it ;)

for the looted basilisk, it would be better to use the chasis of the chimera (if when you make the looted chimera ;)), but if not, i'd remove the wheels and cockpit from the front and just have the traks

HA-HA!
If/when... and I was thinking about reducing the shedload of work I already agreed on. I've should have known better... well, you lose some, and then you lose some more :p ;)

You dont have to do anything you dont want to...

But if you stop making stuff you must be prepared to receive this guy in a PM every day until you make some more stuff :p

http://kimberly2u.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/puss-in-boots1.jpg

but seriously, we are in no rush here, so dont feel like you have to do EVERYTHING now (although that would be nice :mischief:)

Mmmm... foood :drool:

Thats right, and we`ll stop feeding you, if you stop making stuff!

Now, to answer your Terminus question:

bet its just a LR with bitz for a Razorback turret and Predator sponsons.......

Seriously its terrible....the sponson guns can't even line up for heavens sakes!

that thing looks terrible and badly conceived. 5 lascannons.. but only 3 can shoot in the same direction at any time me thinks gw's designers wanted to get out of the office early on that day..

ok find this another f****** waste , some retart at GW HQ was allowed to pick and mix with the spare part box and made that crap.
I'm sooo happy I didn't go to GD Germany today. (Had a spare ticket from our local fantasy store.)
Right now I'd probably sit in jail for demolishing that ugly bastard and killing its designer with a blunt cutter.
Hooray for GW and their lack of imagination. Making something like the Prometheus, switching Heavy Bolters with Lascannons would have done the trick... but noooooo, better use the rummage box.

What do you think? Had JJ's 5 year old son his first debut at designing?

Uglier than a Nurglite with half his face eaten by maggots. Disgusting lack of imagination. I could model that with my ass

What the devil is the point of a tank that can't fire forwards? It took us 2 seconds to figure out 3-4 viable ways to make this thing work, and the guys who get paid to do it came up with this? I'll bet Jervis designed it! Yeah, that's what happened! It's all part of his master plan to turn Space Marines into the Keystone Cops of 40K.


Regardless of whatever rules may accompany it, it a cheesy cut and paste job. I personally think they would have done better to modify the Prometheus sponsons to hold a pair of twin linked lascannons and put the razorback style turret in the hole above the assault ramp. That would give you five twin linked lascannons that would actually look like they could focus fire to the front arc of the tank. That would be a good looking marine titan killing tank, while still allowing you to put a storm bolter or hunter killer missile on one of the upper hatches.

I have to agree that this thing looks like it came out of the back end of a rabid baboon Absolutely horrible in my opinion. The sponsons just kill the model. If they were layed out more like how Feor suggested, I would probably snatch one up in a heartbeat, but this is just.... blegh...

I don't even think fuzzy dice and cupholders could redeem this piece of crap, boys.

I will not believe that the Astartes would develop such an.. abomination to their already tested and true platform. I mean come on..what imbicile would actually design such a sloppy vehicle?

instead of HB twin linked las cannons
front side doors a single las cannon in sponson on oth sides
rear side doors twin linkd lascannons in sponsons.

so you have 3 twinlinked las cannons and two individual las cannons. with some very poor fire arcs

This is how it should have looked like:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=120879

Some funny signatures:

Was Jesus experiencing lag when he took 3 days to respawn
For my next big megabattle, I'll rent out the local minigolf place and my friends I can stage battles all over it. Heck, they rent it for birthday parties, why not for 40K? "Captain Sicarius, your orders are to cross the water trap and hold that windmill next to the plaster T-Rex. The Orks will be coming from behind the pirate ship--they must not take that windmill, Captain!"

Now, to answer your Terminus question:

This is how it should have looked like:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=120879


Well! I agree - that's much better looking. The twin-sponsons in a line would have worked better if the front sponson was lower and the rear a bit higher.

Good job the-dude-at-bolter-and-chainsword.com :thumbsup:

Hi!
Here's a gun truk preview (a cannon with truk platform).

Basically the same as the flak trukk, but with different paint job and weapon. Nuthing fancy though. I'm open to suggestions again :)

Or would you prefer this:
An option for the gun trukk: since it would be a speciality of the evil sunz, and even boasts stats with a movement of 2, it could have a fasta paint-job. Like thus:

Perfect :thumbsup:

One of these days you`re gonna give me a heart-attack..

Its wonderful! Brrrmmm.... ka-boom! Waaaghahaghahrgh!

Well, yeah. Which one (the dark grey or the red one) would be better??

Unless... you want me to do both :)
- one for evil sunz (because they paint things red), and one for bad moonz (because deyr teef grow fasta dan anywun elz's, and dey needz da use dem fer sumfin).

I'd choose the red one if we had to pick one

So, what you're saying is, that you didn't get my hint of possibly doing them both?
Or - with bad moonz case, I could change the weapon to some different plasma-thing. Or a vulcan cannon (if orks might use them). And maybe add some golden decorations to the vehicle ;)

I did get the hint, i just wasnt sure whether or not the bad moonz should have a guntrukk too :) but you seem quite keen, so why not? :D

perhaps a bad moonz logo like the one on the flash git would be nice somewhere on the grey one...

So, you have some great ideas too ;) :thumbsup:

I sure do! :D

Btw, I thought you said you were trying to reduce your workload? ;)

Maybe he`s talking about his RL workload so he can make more units :mischief:

Ding-ding-ding!
Stormy got it right :lol:

Now, this 'ere wud be da nazdreg's boyz flash-blasta gun-trukk.

Is it too much over the top?

Oh you are just having so much fun making these, aren`t you? :)

Its not over the top, its right on top! :thumbsup:

Yeah... this is FUN :)

And you think that a mobile mega-blaster for bad moonz ain't too much? The that's good :)

Lets wait for da Boss to say his mind. BTW, LizardmenRule!, you have to go green with us! No more Bond dude, you`re green now. Come on :)

Mobile mega-blasta is awesome!

And i think i can go green... ;)

Do you think the mega-blasta should be a replacement for the kannon or the zzap gun for the bad moonz?

since there are already a few kannon replacements (guntrukk for the Evil Sunz and the looted basilisk for the Death Skullz and the Blood Axes) i think either a replacement for the zzap gun would be good.

That's what I was thinking about. Especially since blaster should be stronger and more lethal (for both sides!) than the kannon ;)

If only you could make units dangerous to themselves in civ... i was thinking 10.1.2 for bombard stats (strength, range, rate of fire)

Do you think that the Blood Axez (who dont have many UUs at the moment) should have their own Blood Axe Kommando, that could be a little cheaper than the regular Kommandoz?

it would use the same graphics, but could be the GA unit for the Axes, and being cheaper might encourage them to be built

Sure - why not :) (If I'm in the propa mood, I could think of editing the existing kommando a bit to make a blood-axe-specific kommando).

Three trukks have been posted:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=250606

Thanks aaglo :thumbsup:

what's next? :mischief:

You're welcome :)

I think I'll start to work on the battle wagon, looted basilisk & looted chimera next. And maybe an outrider after that... who knows the order of things yet :)

Wooo! Looted stuff :drool:

Aaglo, you beast!

Here's a preview of the Looted Basilisk - I think it's pretty close to the IG-basilisk made by muffins.
I'm thinking about adding some accessories to the back of the vehicle (on the "shell storage platform") - like shells & boxes, but no orks this time.

What do you think? Do we need more orkiness here?

Looks just like muffin's. But I would add some spiky bitz to it.

Looks great! a few spikes would also look good tho ;)

Somehow, I associate spikes with chaos. Or do you mean the "metal-plates-cut-to-look-like-teeth" -spikes? Hmm... where could I put those in there?

A dozer-blade? On top of the gun-shield?
I'm thinking about adding also a secondary attack (which will use the hull-mounted shoota)... since I assume that the artillery units in this mod will also have defence values. I think artillery units should not have attack value, since it could screw up AI - altough I'm not sure about that.

Perhaps some checks around the end of the barrel? And some armour plates?

- Chequers around the end of the barrel? Hmm... that would be silly - and yet quite orky. I'll try that.
- Armour plates? I actually thought of adding some armour around the rear platform... or did you mean some other vaguely strange place? I also think that a dozer blade in front would increase orky-points here too, like this (no, I think I'll skip on making the battle damage presented in this pic):
http://www.relicnews.com/images/armyshowcase_jay/basilisk-big.jay.jpg


I just had a horrible realization:

After I've done the looted basilisk & chimera, someone will eventually remember that we have virtually no chaos vehicles around... :eek: