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Imperial Guard
Witch Hunters
Daemon Hunters

Ultramarines
Black Templars
Space Wolves
Dark Angels
Blood Angels

Goffs (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7808181&postcount=1)
Evil Sunz (showpost.php?p=3733960&postcount=1) bottom right
Snakebites (showpost.php?p=3733960&postcount=1) top left
Blood Axes (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7762635&postcount=1)
Death Skullz
Bad Moonz

Black Legion
World Eaters
Death Guard
Thousand Sons
Emperor's Children
Lost and the Damned

Tau (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8476448&postcount=1)

First thing i've been thinking about is the ORKS!!

Gold in the other thread had seven Orks clans, so i was thinking...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/grimpreviews2.jpg
Snakebitez (Feral Orkz) Grimgor era 1
Freebooterz (vanilla) Grimgor era 2
Goffz (lotsa 'Ard Stuff) Grimgor era 3
Evil Sunz (lotsa fast stuff) Grimgor era 4

What do you think?

Yeah, something like that,

Got 1 out of 2 of Smoking mirror's Chaos Marine LHs done... the second one should be finished tomorrow.

@LMR!: Sounds good to me!

@H_T: Nice!

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5367183#post5367183)

Holy Crap indeed! :D

Did someone say HOLY CRAP??? ;)

That's awesome!!

I found this while doing some research:
http://forums.relicnews.com/avatars/avatar16844_1.gif

I reckon something like this would be great for the Blood Axez, since they are hated by the other Orks for being too "un-Orky" and adopting human ideas like camoflage and medals.

I think the military cap and the Space Marine eye-piece thing would accentuate this.

Who will make it? :confused:

Aaaaaaaaglooooooooo!!!!! (Please do it)

Goddamnhell! I can't do leaderheads well enough.
And furthermore, I don't have a program to make Leaderhead flc-files...

Civ 3 flc does it...

C`mon, A, its an ork, its green! :)

I spoke to Grandraem a while back, and he said he might be able to make some more Ork heads for us after he's finished some of his own projects, so aaglo, you are off the hook ;)

And i think that if Grandraem makes 'em they'll have a better continuity

And they'll look better :lol:

Oh great! I didn`t want to bother him, so I kinda didn`t mention him, but its good that you were already a menace! :D

Stormrage... not wanting to be a menace?

SNAP OUT OF IT! :deadhorse:

:lol: G. did alot for me so I kinda didn`t want to push it any further, instead saving it for later :)

Does the second guy look anything like a Tau?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=117974

No. But he (is it a "he"? Or "it"? :lol:) does look like a good Tau placeholder :)

Good find, Mr.Bond!

Its a 'Psilon' or something. and im not sure of his gender, and i dont really want to find out...:undecide:

I found this while doing some research:
http://forums.relicnews.com/avatars/avatar16844_1.gif

I reckon something like this would be great for the Blood Axez, since they are hated by the other Orks for being too "un-Orky" and adopting human ideas like camoflage and medals.

I think the military cap and the Space Marine eye-piece thing would accentuate this.

I realize that this post is pretty ancient, but I was looking through the thread and got a little inspiration from LMR's post here. Not sure if you're interested still in something like this, but if you are, then please post any constructive criticism, but I can't promise alot of work on this, as my mod does come first, but I'll work on this when I get a chance if you still want it. I am going to look for a futuristic eyepiece when I get a chance, as that would really make this LH, but here's without the eyepiece for now.

Just for my information, is this guy called Nazdreg?

That is awesome! Thanks for this!

No problem, Virote.:) I guess that means that you still do need this LH.

I couldn't find an eyepiece prop, so I made one out of primitive shapes. I hope it's ok. Also, please let me know how skin colour is; should gums be more reddish like pic?; should teeth be more yellow?, or anything else, and what background would you be looking for?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=201824&d=1233187366

Make his other eye more red and evil, like you did with the Warhammer Fantasy LH, and yeah, more yellow teeth would look better.. Some ruins would work best for the background, IMO..

Thanks for doing this, G, its great! :thanx:

Here's another preview. I made the eye red and evil, the teeth more yellow, and did put some ruins in the background. I used urban ruins because I assumed that was the type of ruins you were looking for.

Please let me know anything that you would like altering, and if any of the backgrounds are ok, or if I should alter them (darker, more blurred, etc.).

Also, as mentioned before, any name that I should give him? I looked up LMR's pic and it looks like he's called Nazdreg. Is this correct?

Much better! I like backround #1

Now if you can change the metal and his hat to look more dirty and used I`d say we have a winner :)

Nazdreg is from the Bad Moonz klan, I can`t find any info on Blood Axe characters.. Just name him Blood Axes Warboss :)

Ok, I'll try to make everything look more dirty and re-preview. Might not be till next week, as I've started on my foreign advisor for my mod now. Keep your Poser fingers crossed. What's great with it working on my new computer is that, with all the props on this LH, my old CPU would have probably taken about 5 minutes per frame to render. This guy's rendering at about 1 frame per minute on this CPU, so I can render all 121 frames in about 2 hours once he's done.

Blood Axes Warboss he will be called!

BTW, even though I most likely won't be doing any more LHs for a while, if there is any LHs you badly need, post some pics in this thread, and if I feel like a little break from working on my mod I might give one or two a shot from time to time.:)

Looks great. Personally I prefer the skin colour of the fantasy orc, a more yellowish green, but that's just my opinion.

The older and more powerful the Ork, the darker he gets. :D

Thanks for the positive comments.:)

Here's another preview. The metal on some of the props is acting really stupid, and won't allow for dirtying it up. It does some weird application of any bump or texture maps I apply, so I couldn't alter it. I just opted to darken the reflection map a bit so it doesn't look as shiny. I hope that's ok.

For the cap, rather than try to dirty it up, I tried adding a bump map to make it look more worn/crappy. Let me know what you think.

When everything else is ok'd, I'll preview two versions of him, one with this skin colour, and one with an altered skin colour, and get a vote on which looks best.:)

Looks good! Sold! :D

There might be a small delay in the LH, for good reasons. I'll explain when I get confirmation of something.:mischief:

The bump map on the hat looks better, but I wonder if it will show up when the image's size is reduced to the size of the Civ3 heads and the palette is reduced.

The bump map on the hat looks better, but I wonder if it will show up when the image's size is reduced to the size of the Civ3 heads and the palette is reduced.

I tried a render with it at 50% size (the same as the civ scale) and it did show up alright. I figured if it doesn't look obvious enough I'll probably just be able to increase the bump effect a bit. It should be fine though.:)

Good to hear.

Now that I have the ok, I'll explain the slight delay.:)

You've probably noticed that the metal jaw-armour under the ork's jaw is pretty thin. That's because I cut it out of another prop. I didn't have the ability to make a proper one. Well, the kind Mr. Utahjazz7 has offered to create a better, thicker jaw-armour prop. Perhaps I should call it a mouthguard. I just have to figure out how to find the missing file that I was going to send to him (a .3ds file I exported that, like some of my advisor files, is kind of hidden on my computer somewhere).

So the LH will have a slight delay, but should look better when it's done, thanks to utahjazz7.:)

Sweet! :D

tencharninjabanana

Ok, here's another preview, with utahjazz7's excellent mouthpiece prop. I tried to give it a rough, dirty texture, but I'm not sure if it looks metallic enough now. Please let me know what you think. Also, please let me know if the narrower or wider mouthpiece look better (It's the same height and depth, just slightly reduced width for one of them). If you think the mouthpiece needs to be bigger or smaller/wider or taller/etc. also please comment.

Here's the preview at civscale:

I like the left one better, I think it looks just dandy!:D

I really like the way that the texture looks on there. Nice work!

In my non-expert opinion, I think the size of the mouthguard could be reduced a bit. It looks a little too big in comparison to the head. But that's just me ...

Utah, its based on this http://forums.relicnews.com/avatars/avatar16844_1.gif

Yeh!
Bigger gob is better gob. Wonderful :)

Well, look what the cat dragged in.. :D

Aaaaaglo, damgummit, how have you been?

Utah, its based on this ...

I know, I modeled it. ;) I just thought it looked a tad big is all.

I like the smaller one personally. They do look to big to be useful but I assumed they were decorative, right?

Since the left pic seems to be the more popular of the two I went with that one. As promised, here's a colour comparison of the original on the left, and a more yellowy version of the orc on the right. I hope this is the approximate colour you had in mind, mrtn.

Everyone please let me know which looks best.

aaglo,
Nice to see you again.

Finally, in the pic that mouthguard looks attached to his armour and doesn't look that maneouverable. In the animation, should I move the mouthguard along with his chest and have his head move slightly within that, or should I have it move solely along with his head, independant of how the chest moves?

I prefer the dark one.. and the mouthguard should move with his chest, I think..

I like the dark one best, too.

I like a bit more the yellowier version.

And I think that the mouth guard should move with the head & jaw of the ork. And I also think that the head could be a bit lower & foward compared to the shoulder line of that ork.

In this video (starting at 0:57) you can see an ork warboss with an iron gob :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn79FQ7CdPQ&feature=related

Thanks for that video, aaglo. Lowering the head on the shoulders shouldn't really be a problem. The only thing I can do with Poser (that I know of) to accomplish this is bend the body forward, then the head back, and it should look like his head is lower on his body, kind of like he's hunched.

I'll repost a preview sometime this week with it altered.:)

Well.. orks are hunched..

I too prefer the lighter skin. :)

Because the skin colour is evenly split, I opted to choose the numerical halfway between the two shades. It's a little more yellow than the first one and a little less yellow than the second one. I hope this is acceptable to everyone.:)

I hunched him up. I also increased the bump on the hat's bump texture to make it a little more obvious. Here's another preview. Please let me know what you think.

I think I like it :D

Looked good! :)

Wonderful! :)

It looks good :)

Ok. If there's no protests by tomorrow, I'll probably start animating him for final render.:)

Blood Axez Warboss finished.:)

I don't have time to post him right now. Will do so first thing tomorrow morning (or tonight if I get the time, but probably not).

I look forward to seeing the finished product.

But probably not. :mischief:

With the Blood Axez Warboss done I was looking at the WH40k Mod and noticed that the leader of the Goffs was Ghazghkull Thraka .... so I looked at the Games Workshop website and found a pic of him (in the attachments). I thought that he'd be cool so I messed around with the Blood Axez LH and utahjazz7 was kind enough to modify his mouthguard for me (I asked him to extend a couple of the teeth).

So I came up with this:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=203627&stc=1&d=1234465022

I know the preview is bigger than ingame size, but I worked alot on textures and wanted them to show well, even though I know they won't show as well ingame.

Please let me know what you think.

Wow! I'm impressed. I love the way the mouthguard looks; you did a great job with creating the textures there.

Very nice! Very, very nice! :drool:

You are the best LH maker in the universe! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I agree with stormy above.
Thraka looks great :thumbsup:

Great work on the mouthguard. :)

Looks brilliant!

Thanks everyone.:) There might be a delay of about a week or so, but if everyone approves of it I'll get animating it after that.

Whats not to approve!? :goodjob:

Time to reveal the reason for the delay...

utahjazz7 has come through again, with an awesome new helmet/eyepiece prop for the leaderhead.

I've textured it and rendered it with two different colours. The first helmet is metallic like the original picture. The second is more of a bronze tone like I've seen his helmet painted in a few pics.

Please let me know which you like best. Thanks.

The textures look great. I'm glad you were able to use the UV map effectively. I especially like the bolt. It looks like a couple of chunks have been knocked off of it. Good work. :thumbsup:

I think I like the metallic finish better than the bronze finish, but it might be a tad too shiny for my tastes.

I prefer the one on the left :)

Yeah, I prefer the one on the left myself, but I thought I'd just give a choice.:) I'll probably animate and render it Monday depending on any further debate.

utahjazz7,
I wasn't sure if it was a tad too shiny. I had it more dull but it looked almost like stone rather than metal like that, because of the organic shape of it. To be honest I was worried that you wouldn't be happy with the way I'd textured it if it didn't look metallic enough. I can probably dull it a little bit though and compromise between the two looks.

Don't worry about making me happy with it. Do whatever seems best to you.

I did go back and look at the original you had posted, though, and I really like the texture that you had given to that helmet. It looks really worn and tarnished.