Term II Office of the Chieftain

Chieftain: Methos
.....Cartographer: NKVD
Warlord: Falcon02
Elder of NoneOfTheAbove: dutchfire
Elder of Falcon's Haven: robboo
Chief Justice: ravensfire
Judge Advocate: Lockesdonkey
.....Temporary Appointment: Donsig
Public Defender: Octavian X

Official Links:
Designated Player Pool (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5268700#post5268700)
Current Discussions:
[url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5268927&postcount=2]City Specialization (]City Council[/url)
How Best to use the City Council? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=215086)
Workers (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=215758)

Goals:
City Specialization: Reorganizing, or at least setting a standard of how our cities are laid out in the empire.

Government:
Office of Warlord: To create a leader to maintain our military.
Research:
Alphabet: So that we may gain the advantage of tech trading over our neighbors and to boost our power above and beyond that of our neighbors.
Code of Laws: So that we may build courthouses to help manage the costs of our empire and gain the blessings of a higher power.

Note: The above will be continually updated as the term continues and is currently not complete. Hopefully I can update it more with my intentions in the next couple of days. Thank you.

Chieftain Methos

thank you again for apointing me cartographer!

MR. Chieftain...

I would like for you to add "Discuss and start the process of city specialization" to the governments goals. Last game we never got around to it. I feel if we start now we may actually get started and may get our 2 cities on the road to specialized functions.

MR. Chieftain...

I would like for you to add "Discuss and start the process of city specialization" to the governments goals. Last game we never got around to it. I feel if we start now we may actually get started and may get our 2 cities on the road to specialized functions.

Will do. The bad thing is I created the discussion in the Term 2 City Council thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=214683), but forgot to add it on my list of goals.

I would also like a nomination at the History Office. I mean if it comes late in the game it will be harsh to get all the information of the past saves...Is Jdubdixon sick or what?

In the event the third city is founded, I would like to be a Chieftain of that city, if possible :).

Can I ask, is there any jobs you want doing, because I would be happy to do them.

Mr Chieftain,

The Election Results sticky in the main forum and Office Index in the offices forum have not been updated with this term's information. We could also use someone to organize an information office. I'm not volunteering for that job, just suggesting something is needed.

Regards,
Citizen DaveShack

I will be willing to do that if you want

i'm still waiting for the history office to be filled too...

May I point out that we will have a new city on the first turn of the next turnchat, and that this city does not have an elder, nor orders, at the moment.

I would be willing to submit an application for eldership of the third city :).

I would also like a nomination at the History Office. I mean if it comes late in the game it will be harsh to get all the information of the past saves...Is Jdubdixon sick or what?

i'm still waiting for the history office to be filled too...

Since no one has chimed in about it, I'll allow you NKVD to hold the history office for Term 2 as well as your Cartography position. I've heard no one else mention an interest in it, so the job is yours for Term 2.

Can I ask, is there any jobs you want doing, because I would be happy to do them.

We could also use someone to organize an information office. I'm not volunteering for that job, just suggesting something is needed.

I will be willing to do that if you want

Agreed. Joe Harker, you have the responsibility during Term 2 of the Information Office.

May I point out that we will have a new city on the first turn of the next turnchat, and that this city does not have an elder, nor orders, at the moment.

I would be willing to submit an application for eldership of the third city :).

Agreed. CivGeneral, I'm appointing you as Elder of City #3 for the remaining period of Term 2.

congrats to civ general and joe!

What do people want from the infromation office?

What do people want from the infromation office?

Umm.. a spell-checker?;)

Sorry :lol:

How about some info about the current polls? And about passed laws.

Due to Locke's temporary absence, I am appointing Donsig as Judge Advocate until Locke's return.

Thank you Donsig.

Due to Locke's temporary absence, I am appointing Donsig as Judge Advocate until Locke's return.

Thank you Donsig.

You are very welcome. Thanks for thinking of me. :D

I have said this in the poll but i would like to be warlord when the office is created.

I'm not clear on who issued orders for the 3rd city in the past turnchat. Was it:
- the Elder of the city?
- the Chieftain?
- the DP? (same as Chieftain?)?

Couldn't really tell from the summary.

Anyway, would a Library or Granary be a better effort for City #3 and let the other cities build and send fighting units? This would help 3 get bigger culturally and physically sooner.

The Elder didn't post orders, therefor the DP was responsible.

I'm not clear on who issued orders for the 3rd city in the past turnchat.

The Elder didn't post orders, therefor the DP was responsible.

Correct, the Elder CivGeneral never gave orders for his city, so I, as DP, chose them for him. Dutch and I discussed it in the chat and ended up with a warrior.

The Elder CivGeneral doesn't even have a thread yet :rolleyes:
(A PM might be appropriate)

The Elder CivGeneral doesn't even have a thread yet :rolleyes:
(A PM might be appropriate)

I agree. Sending.

I apologize for the delay. I have been under preasure to get my work done for college so that I can graduate on time. It shall not happen again :sad:.

Both the City thread and the queue discussions are up.

I don't think the Elder could be appointed until the city was settled, so the end result was correct anyway. :)

Dutch and I discussed it in the chat and ended up with a warrior.

Careful with that "discussed it in the chat" thing, the Honorable Temporary Justice might take issue with it. :mischief:

the Honorable Temporary Justice might take issue with it. :mischief:

We haven't had a JR yet, but now donsig has been appointed, who knows :mischief:

I apologize for the delay. I have been under preasure to get my work done for college so that I can graduate on time. It shall not happen again :sad:.

Both the City thread and the queue discussions are up.

ah c'mon! a civ demo game is more important than graduating! :)

My wife's water broke, so I'll be gone for a couple days. Dave Shack is my deputy and now acting Chieftain until I get back.

Deputy DaveShack,

What will we be researching next? Horsebackriding, Ironworking, or something else?

I suggest Iron Working, it's cheaper than HBR, and it will locate iron.

Deputy DaveShack,

What will we be researching next? Horsebackriding, Ironworking, or something else?

I suggest Iron Working, it's cheaper than HBR, and it will locate iron.

I agree with iron working especially as iron will play an important part in our miltary though the middle ages, although horse archers i have found are more useful than swordsmen although i have only used them in multiplayer games where the oppements only build axemen.

Since there hasn't been a poll, it's gonna be tough determining what the people want.

BTW I'm out of town for a business trip, so getting enough online time to organize these decisions is gonna be interesting. :crazyeye:

Do we want to delay the game session so we can put it to a vote?

It looks like Iron working is the top choice right now... so I could just go with that.

However, we also have no instructions for Trades yet....

I wish to present a suggestion for the worker orders for the Third City (Currently going to be renamed to Gold+Cows)

Worker Orders/Suggestions
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4449/workersugdi8.jpg
Key: Brown - Road network to be built

First - Road from the River 2 tiles SE of the Third City up to the City itself. Then road the cattle and gold. Farm the Cattle first and then Mine the gold.

Farm the cattle???

Best regards,

I wish to present a suggestion for the worker orders for the Third City (Currently going to be renamed to Gold+Cows)

Worker Orders/Suggestions
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4449/workersugdi8.jpg
Key: Brown - Road network to be built

First - Road from the River 2 tiles SE of the Third City up to the City itself. Then road the cattle and gold. Farm the Cattle first and then Mine the gold.

I'll buy the road to the city first, but then doesn't it make sense to build the pasture next? We can use the increased production from the cows much sooner than we need the health benefits. Worry about the road after we get the extra food/hammers.

However, we also have no instructions for Trades yet....

There seems to be some consensus on archery for pottery, and nothing else.

I'm going to postpone this game session until the 18th, to allow for a poll to better clarify our next tech. Looking at the discussion there did not seem to be a clear consensus as to which tech that should be, and there is no poll for that tech. I will start a new poll in order to allow for a vote on the matter.

I also would like if the Acting Chieftain to give more concise instructions for Trades and Worker assignments. However there does appear to be a consensus for trades (Pottery for Archery), that I can use as a guide, along with Elders' improvement requests.

Thanks for the postponement. I've had nothing but trouble today trying to get connected. Upwards of 1000 people trying to use a convention center's wireless at the same time...

Thanks for the help DaveShack, but I believe I can take things from here.

BTW, I am now a "Chieftain" at home and am the proud father of a little girl!

Congratulations Methos

Congratulations Methos!

Congratulations Methos

Congratulations Methos
[party]

Congratulations!

Sorry I wasn't much help, our low-availability times ended up matching pretty much exactly.

Congratulations,Methos!

The next turnchat (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=218062)has been announced, please post your instruction before Monday 23 April 14.00 GMT.

If no instructions are posted, the DP is in charge of orders. Just for your information, this is what I will do if that happens:

Follow the priesthood -> Code of Laws path (unless there's a poll with a different outcome)

Worker #1 cottage the floodplain near city #1, start a road to the copper
Worker #2 go to the floodplain and cottage it
Worker #3 mine the gold, road the plains, help worker #1

Suggest to Elder Dutchfire to immediately switch to Oracle in NoneOfTheAbove
If Oracle will take fewer turns than CoL, then start HBR -> IW and take CoL when Oracle completes.
Else if Oracle will take more turns than CoL, then start CoL -> HBR, take Civil Service when Oracle completes.

If Oracle completed by another civ, switch to CoL, if we're not already researching it.

To make these instructions just a bit clearer,

- what action should the DP take if Oracle and CoL will take the same number of turns?
- given that someone may beat us to the Oracle, perhaps researching CoL makes sense even if we *might* get it a turn or two sooner via the Oracle. That way we lock in the arrival of CoL and if we succeed in building the Oracle, we get CS as a bonus. The worst case may be almost building the Oracle and then having to start CoL at that late date.

To make these instructions just a bit clearer,

- what action should the DP take if Oracle and CoL will take the same number of turns?
- given that someone may beat us to the Oracle, perhaps researching CoL makes sense even if we *might* get it a turn or two sooner via the Oracle. That way we lock in the arrival of CoL and if we succeed in building the Oracle, we get CS as a bonus. The worst case may be almost building the Oracle and then having to start CoL at that late date.
I disagree, if we decide to try and get CoL via the Oracle then we should stick to that and not "waste" :science: on CoL that we can better spend on other techs.

I disagree, if we decide to try and get CoL via the Oracle then we should stick to that and not "waste" :science: on CoL that we can better spend on other techs.

I don't have a real strong feeling on this, but if we can get CoL in about the same time either way, it seems like a better deal to use the Oracle for CS (1144 hammers) rather than CoL (500 hammers). This is assuming that we have the choice of both of these from the Oracle, something I don't really understand.

Will you appoint someone to the position of Elder of city #2, or will you do the job yourself?

Will you appoint someone to the position of Elder of city #2, or will you do the job yourself?
Who are you talking to :p?

Who are you talking to :p?

I assume he's talking to me, as it's my thread.

Will you appoint someone to the position of Elder of city #2, or will you do the job yourself?

With the limited time I have and you think I'd do it! :lol: Since Hyronymus is attempting to be elected to the position I'm going to appoint him. That is of course if you want it? ;)

Edler fo City #2: Hyronymus.

Bismark is willing to give us Masonry, Iron Working, and Sailing for Code of Laws.

I'm not sure if we want to trade Code of Laws away just yet... but I think this is a deal we really should consider.

I told Methos I accept the position as elder of City#2 by PM. I was so busy yesterday that I didn't check all topics properly.

As the term is coming to an end you all already know I plan on leaving. Unfortunately here lately I'm finding myself neglecting my duties almost totally here in the DG. I don't feel this is right to our nation, so I think I'm going to go ahead and pass on my responsibilities as Chieftain to DaveShack now.

I apologize, but I figure this is best for the game and me.

Several things that I meant to finish, but didn't:
Amendment to the Office of Warlord: I believe it's ready for polling.
Chieftess's TCIT: I was really happy she postponed, as I wasn't ready. Hopefully DS can get to this before tomorrow.

There's others, but those I know are needed quickly.