Foreign Minister - Shaitan
Deputy Foreign Minister - Plexus
Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs - Now hiring

This thread will cover the scope of Foreign Affairs.

FOREIGN POLICY
We will declare war only in the event that an ally requests an alliance against a civ below that ally's rank.
We will seek military alliances with civilizations of an equal or higher rating than our opponents.
We will not agree to foreign demands of extorsion.
We will prosecute a campaign of Cultural Assault in support or our Manifest Destiny. Manifest Destiny is defined as territory in the effective corruption reducing radius of Fox Nest.
We will practice a campaign of regular extorsion against Rogue Nations. We will extort Suspect Nations if they have a required resource or technology.
We will not sign Rights of Passage with Rogue Nations. We may sign Rights of Passage with Suspect Nations and Common Neighbors to achieve strategic goals. We will always endeavor to renew Rights of Passage with Most Favored Nations and Able Partners.
We will not raze captured cities.
We will not renew Peace Treaties with Rogue Nations. We will renew Peace Treaties with Suspect Nations if they posess a resource or technology that we need. We will always renew Peace Treaties with all other ranks of civilizaitons.


RANKS

Most Favored Nations
India
Iroquois

Able Partners
Greece
Rome

Common Neighbors
Zululand

Suspect Nations
none

Rogue Nations
Azteca
Babylon
China

HOW RANKS ARE FIGURED

Polls are taken asking citizens to score the AI civs from 5 (best) to 1 (worst). These votes were tabulated and run through a simplifying formula to come up with the rating numbers. (Formula: Each vote at level five earns 3 points. Vote levels for 4 and less get 2, 1, 0, and -1 respectively.)

These will be repolled each term for all civs and as needed for individual civs when their actions warrant it (someone declares war on us, attempts extorsion, agrees to an alliance and helps us kick butt, etc).

CURRENT CIV RATING NUMBERS
India 37
Iroquois 32
Greece 27
Rome 27
Zululand 11
Babylon -2
China -4
Azteca -9

RATE# RANK
30+ Most Favored Nation (MFN)
20-29 Able Partner (AP)
10-19 Common Neighbor (CN)
0-9 Suspect Nation (SN)
<0 Rogue Nation (RN)

HOW RANKS DEFINE THE FOREIGN POLICY AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS TURN PROPOSALS

EXCHANGE RATE - These generalizations will be used to help figure out whether a proposed deal amount is acceptable or not.

MFN - Fair trade
AP - Small Gain
CN - Medium gain
SN - Large gain
RN - Extortionate gain

CREDIT RATING - Deals for gold/turn get more income but also create the possibility that the AI civ will bankrupt and declare war to break the deals and save their economy. This table shows how we will try to structure deals.

MFN - Straight payment first, then g/t
AP - Straight payment first, then g/t
CN - Even mix
SN - G/t first, then straight payment
RN - G/t first, then straight payment

ALLIANCES - When requested by a foreign nation, consult the civS' ranks. An alliance can be granted if the target nation is a rank below the requesting nation. When we seek alliances, requests may be made to nations equal to or above the target nation's status.

RIGHT OF PASSAGE - Rank will determine whether we always want an ROP, never want an ROP or will use opportunistic ROPs (when we intend to move through that civ's territory).

MFN - Always
AP - Always
CN - Opportunistic
SN - Opportunistic
RN - Never

PEACE TREATY RENEGOTIATION - Rank will determine whether we will seek peace treaty renegotitations.

MFN - Always
AP - Always
CN - Always
SN - Opportunistic
RN - Never

EXTORSION - Rank will determine if we will extort the civ at all, only when they have something we want, or if we will do it constantly.

MFN - Never
AP - Never
CN - Never
SN - Opportunistic
RN - Every 20 turns or less

The Department thread for term 1 can be found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19260).

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hiring for the position of Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs. In the event that the Foreign Minister and Deputy Foreign Minister cannot attend a turn chat, the Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs will represent the Department. Duties include maintaining a high knowledge level of current events and policies and attending the turn chats.

Benefits include use of your computer, the envy of your peers and a round of drinks if I ever meet you.

If you are interested in the position, please email or PM me.

EDIT: Plexus has been appointed to the position of Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Council Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21595) to adopt a rewritten Constitution.
EDIT: The new Constitution has been adopted.

greetings boss! Great to work with you :)

As Deputy Minister, my goals mimic those of the Minister himself, much of my own personal goals in this game owe their development to Shaitan himself. I hope to serve my people well and I wish all citizens safety and security. My position will work to ensure this.

Thank you,

Office of the Deputy of Foreign Affairs

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently polling to determine our Manifest Destiny. All citizens should vote here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21690).

EDIT: Poll results show a plurality wishes to expand southward until the benefits of proximity to the castle are depleted. This is generally 10-12 tiles or so. Refinement polls will be taken as we approach these virtual limits.

We are at war with 5 civs and we only need to be at war with 2 of them. Egypt currently possesses some of our sovereign territory (per the newly defined Manifest Destiny). We have an alliance against Babylon (13 turns remaining).

There are monetary benefits to peace.

Peace with Egypt would net us 6 g/t + 54 lump.
With Zululand we get WM (world map).
Rome will give us Lutetia or Lugdunum + 23 lump + WM.
Iroquois will give us 11 lump + WM.
Babylon will give us 1 g/t + 62 lump.

The President will be instructed to take the peace deals with Zululand, Rome and Iroquois now and with Babylon in 13 turns.

EDIT: Peace was obtained with Zululand, Rome and Iroquois as planned and will be obtained with Babylon in a few turns.

I concur

I concur as well, but is it possible to get any territory maps out of them?

Originally posted by Chieftess
I concur as well, but is it possible to get any territory maps out of them?
Most have World Maps in the bargain. With the frequency of AI map trading these should give us fairly current territory maps of everybody.

Plexus has been appointed to the position of Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs. Congratulations, Plexus and welcome to the department! :goodjob:

Originally posted by Shaitan
The President will be instructed to take the peace deals with Zululand, Rome and Iroquois now and with Babylon in 13 turns.

These three are now at peace with us.

Not that we will have to negotiate away that alliance against Babylon in 13 Turns, before taking a peace deal. I'm sure that's what Shaitan meant, just mentioning this so that every reader knows.

Hey, evreyone! I would like to thank Shaitan for letting me take this position.

Originally posted by Grey Fox


These three are now at peace with us.

Not that we will have to negotiate away that alliance against Babylon in 13 Turns, before taking a peace deal. I'm sure that's what Shaitan meant, just mentioning this so that every reader knows.
Exactly correct, Grey Fox. In 13 turns (now 6 I believe?) we will be able to cancel the alliance with no reputation penalty and then make peace with Babylon.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a poll on behalf of the Domestic Department. This poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=273307&t=8122) will decide our Provincial Borders. It is the right, privilege and duty of every citizen to vote in this poll.

EDIT: Cyc's proposal was the clear victor. A Council Vote will be initiated to adopt it.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Council Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22011) for the adoption of Provincial Borders.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22013) for support of the Foreign Affairs proposed activities for the 5/7 chat turn.

EDIT: The proposal has been accepted and passed to the President.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22031) to see if we want peace with Egypt during the 5/7 chat turn.

EDIT: Poll results show some amount of Egyptian territory is still desired before peace should be offered. These goals have been passed to the President.

Shaitan, I noticed you requested ROP deals with most of the other civs. Why do you want ROP deals? I'm wary to initiate ones in such a hostile environment. Since they could try to take advantage of the deal.

I'm with Falc here. How is the Dept of F/A addressing the problem of the Chinese settler outside of Khatovar? What are we going to do about it?

I would like to get input from the Foreign Affairs department on a proposal to build harbors to connect the former Egyptian cities with our own. Please look at the discussion in the Domestic thread. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=276091#post276091)

A thread has been opened to discuss the Foreign Affairs activity proposal (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22107) for the next chat turn.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22117) to determine if Chat Turn Instruction Threads should be used.

EDIT: This suggestion has received overwhelming support and will be added to a proposed Constitutional amendment.

Originally posted by Justus II
I would like to get input from the Foreign Affairs department on a proposal to build harbors to connect the former Egyptian cities with our own. Please look at the discussion in the Domestic thread. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=276091#post276091)
The Department applauds this plan but has some reservations because it will delay our planned activity to mitigate Chinese agression. Details can be found in the above link.

Originally posted by Falcon02
Shaitan, I noticed you requested ROP deals with most of the other civs. Why do you want ROP deals? I'm wary to initiate ones in such a hostile environment. Since they could try to take advantage of the deal.
ROP deals will quickly increase the other civs' opinions of us. They count as active deals and continuous contact. Since we can't make trade deals yet this is our only option to improve relations besides making bribes.
The AI generally does not take advantage of ROP deals unless the human player has done so. As there is little to no settleable territory inside our lands there should not be much foreign traffic. Settler groups can be herded out of our territory with groups of 3 units if this becomes necessary.

Originally posted by Shaitan

The AI generally does not take advantage of ROP deals unless the human player has done so. As there is little to no settleable territory inside our lands there should not be much foreign traffic. Settler groups can be herded out of our territory with groups of 3 units if this becomes necessary.

For some reason I thought this was funny. :lol:

I've always enjoyed herding chinese :D

Back on topic I think this was a great idea. I just hope the ROPS have the desired effect. The attitudes did not seem to change much. :(

Originally posted by Shaitan

The Department applauds this plan but has some reservations because it will delay our planned activity to mitigate Chinese agression. Details can be found in the above link.

Us military types have another planned activity to mitigate Chinese aggression.

Well, now we have a ROP and the Chinese are still furious at us, I doubt they will keep their promises, esp. with such an attitude. I feel the ROP was a mistake, but only time will tell, maybe Shaitan is right and they won't attack, but I doubt it.

Originally posted by Falcon02
Well, now we have a ROP and the Chinese are still furious at us, I doubt they will keep their promises, esp. with such an attitude. I feel the ROP was a mistake, but only time will tell, maybe Shaitan is right and they won't attack, but I doubt it.

I believe that if we go with the harbour plan and trade luxuries with the Chinese, they will be much less likely to attack.

Originally posted by punkbass2000
I believe that if we go with the harbour plan and trade luxuries with the Chinese, they will be much less likely to attack.

Now I believe that might work, Shaitan, your impressions?

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Originally posted by punkbass2000
I believe that if we go with the harbour plan and trade luxuries with the Chinese, they will be much less likely to attack.
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Originally posted by Falcon02


Now I believe that might work, Shaitan, your impressions?
I concur. I've already agreed to put the Foreign Affairs plan on hold for a chat turn if Trade can guarantee a deal with China this turn.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=66) to determine the extent of Chat Room Representatives' powers.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=66) to determine if we will implement Justus' Harbor Plan.

Instructions for the next chat turn have been posted here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=278460&t=8956#post278460).

Immediate: Sign ROP with Iroquois, India and Zulu.

I am strongly against ROPs w/ India and the Zulu. Although, I agree with the ROP with the Iroquois Nation. During a war with China, they could become powerful allies.

Originally posted by Plexus


I am strongly against ROPs w/ India and the Zulu. Although, I agree with the ROP with the Iroquois Nation. During a war with China, they could become powerful allies.
Noted. The primary reason for the ROPs is to improve relations with the other civilizations. India and the Zulu are not our neighbors so pose negligible danger. India is one of the only two civs in the world who like us - we want to keep it that way. The Zulu hate us - we want to change that. When we have free trade with these civs we will be able to pick and choose the ROPs more discriminately (as we get trade deals we can expire the ROPs that we don't want to keep).

An ROP is not being signed with the Aztecs as several people specifically objected to that ROP for specific reasons so I'm definitely influenceable (is that a real word?) despite my very strong desire to get these ROPs in place. Why don't you want an ROP with India and the Zulu?

Ghandi scares me and I don't like Impies, they kill my tanks. :)

I am strongly against ROPs w/ India and the Zulu. Although, I agree with the ROP with the Iroquois Nation. During a war with China, they could become powerful allies.

I agree. It is premature to sign ROP with India until their intentions are made clear or we have sufficient defence in the south-east. Zulu could ferry troops over to Heliopolis. Iroquois probably have a predominantly defensive military since they have no iron and 1 horse connected to a single city, Akwesasne.

Originally posted by Plexus
Ghandi scares me and I don't like Impies, they kill my tanks. :) :rotfl:

I'll keep an eye on the responses in case more people voice against the ROPs but the plan has overall favor at this time.

I've already protested the ROP's. I feel ROP's aren't to Improve relations, as we've seen with China, it hasn't helped much. I feel that it has just made us a more vunerable target. India I wouldn't mind, but anyone who's annoyed or Furious should stay off our ROP list, in my opinion.

The Trade Department is pleased to announce a promising preliminary trade oppurtunity. We can trade our ivory to the Greeks now for a WM, 7 GPT, and 19 gold up front. Rome and the Aztecs are willing to give 3 and 2 GPT respectively, with an additional 30 gold up front. Others are either only willing to give gold up front (90 from China, I believe), or just WMs.

There is an active trade route:

Rome <--> India
India <--> Greece
Greece <--> Aztecs

I know the Aztecs have been a pain for us, so trading with the Greeks will deny atleast 7 GPT and 19 up front from going into Aztec treasuries.


Note: This is only preliminary, but a very promising option.

I will be officially absent until Monday. Immortal will be acting in Department Leader capacity until my return.

I am currently leading an expedition of Pheonatica's finest explorers, warriors and diplomats to count the resources in the known world. :viking:

A table of our findings has been sealed in a scroll using the most enduring Pheonatician wax and sent towards the palace in Fox Nest with a trustworthy carrier pigeon for Pheonatica's leaders to analyse.

I would like the input of the Foreign Affairs Department on suggestions for trades. Pls. see Trade Department thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=281448&t=9370#post281448

I have posted an excel table with a breakdown of resources for each civ and possible trades.

Greece -

Ivory --> 10 GPT, 9 gold upfront

Then trade world maps immediately (same screen) for only 2 gold.

Rome -

Horses --> 15 GPT, (3 gold upfront) - 3 gold is optional if we want to trade spices

Rome will also give:

Spices --> 6 GPT
or
Spices --> WP, 3GPT, 30 gold
or
Spices --> 4GPT, 35 gold

*NOTE: Rome is at war with the Babylonians. Except for horses, it will take them 10 turns to reach Babylon through the rugged terrain (and through the Aztec homelands).

**NOTE: If we do go for the horse trade, after it's agreed, immediately trade:
Spices --> WP, 3GPT, 30 gold

China
Incense or Ivory --> 116 gold (150 in treasury)

India
Ivory --> WM, 17 gold (entire treasury)

Aztecs
Incense or Ivory --> 2 GPT, 30 gold
or
Incense or Ivory --> 36 gold (entire treasury)

Iroquois
Incense or Spices --> WM, 5 gold (entire treasury)


Zulus (too poor for viable trade. They want too many resources and gold for silks. They seem desperate.)
Incense, Spice or Ivory --> WM, 2 gold (entire treasury)

I'm all for it, hopefully shaitan won't mind if I agree to it.

ROPs with China, Greece, and Rome could expire shortly, likely during the next turn. What is the Foreign Affairs' position on continuing the deals, considering the question whether or not these (or any time during any round) may expire during a round? Maybe a list of preferred nations we should be getting ROPs with and those we are opposed to agreeing with could be noted so our turn leader may make decisions on the fly.

Also, would we put a cost into each? Or, should we decline all renewals until the round ends?

Rome 4 Turns (I suggest we renew this as the Trade department wishes to start a deal with them)
India 11 Turns (Expires next round)
Babylon 9 turns (I suggest we let this one expire)
China 1 Turn (I am worried about this as they are massing in our borders 1 turn before the deal ends and they are furious, I might renew this deal if they are willing to accept deal for deal. As to avoid another war.)
Zulu 11 Turns (Next Round)
Iroquois 11 turns (next round)
Greeks 4 turns (let expire)

Originally posted by Immortal

China 1 Turn (I am worried about this as they are massing in our borders 1 turn before the deal ends and they are furious, I might renew this deal if they are willing to accept deal for deal. As to avoid another war.)

I have a bad feeling about China... I really don't like how they're lined up by the river. And I wouldn't buy their excuse that they're letting their horses take a drink. :)

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=283183#post283183) to determine the extend of Deputy autonomy.

EDIT: An overwhelming majority feel that the Deputies are not autonomous and should follow the plans laid out by the Leader.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22493) on chat time announcements and scheduling.

EDIT: This poll has determined that a fixed schedule is desired and this has been included in the Constitutional Amendment.

Originally posted by Immortal
I'm all for it, hopefully shaitan won't mind if I agree to it.
Not at all. Excellent work during my hiatus, Immortal. Give yourself a 25% raise. ;)

The Department of Foreign Affairs has started a discussion thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22504) for the proposed May 14 Foreign Affairs turn instructions.

EDIT: Discussion concluded, instructions posted.

could the department heads please open a new post in the "chat-voicing-list (term2)":
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20797

is should contain the following:
department-name
chat represenatatives in order of priority

for example this could be:
joke-department
1.) leader-name
2.) deputy-name
3.) chat-rep name

this will be the only source for voice-rights, so please update it!
otherwise your reps wont get voice in the chat.

Part of the Manifesto
6. Similarly, the Department of Foreign Affairs will not sign Right of Passage agreements with civilizations identified by the Military Department as probable victims of agression. We will sign ROP agreements with civilizations that are not identified as targets and those targets that we do not intend to attack within the period of the ROP agreement.

I think this policy should be altered to allow for a middle ground: Civs that are not targets of agression, but are identified as as being furious with us. These civs should not be automatically signed ROPs with without consideration, especially from the military department.

I don't see ROPs as the main method to improve relations. I believe it shoud come second after gaining trust with other deals over time, or at the very least, with payment from them. I would not like to see a ROP as the only agreement with us and another furious civ - that only opens us for a sneak attack.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22552) regarding the Domestic Department governing the Capital Province.

EDIT: The poll concluded that the Domestic Department should be governing the Capital Province.

Originally posted by chiefpaco
Part of the Manifesto


I think this policy should be altered to allow for a middle ground: Civs that are not targets of agression, but are identified as as being furious with us. These civs should not be automatically signed ROPs with without consideration, especially from the military department.

I don't see ROPs as the main method to improve relations. I believe it shoud come second after gaining trust with other deals over time, or at the very least, with payment from them. I would not like to see a ROP as the only agreement with us and another furious civ - that only opens us for a sneak attack.
These are all valid points, chiefpaco. I'll endeavor to repoll and update the manifesto before the next chat turn (not tonight but the next one).

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently sponsoring a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22554) of the Proposed Ammendment to the Constitution.

EDIT: The amendment has been passed to the Council for a vote.

I am sad to report that Immortal has resigned his position as Deputy of Foreign Affairs. Immortal was an exceptional Deputy and will be well missed. :cry:

I am happy to report that we have an able and energetic successor to fill Immortal's shoes. Please welcome Plexus as the new Deputy of Foreign Affairs! [dance]

The Department of Foreign Affairs is now hiring for the position of Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs. This position is an appointment to become the Chat Representative for the Department. Primary requirements are the ability to attend chat turns and having a good grasp of the game in general and Foreign Affairs in particular.

Please contact me via PM or email if you are interested in this position.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22597) about checks and balances of the Cultural Department's build queue override power.

EDIT: This discussion has gone to poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22733).

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Council Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22596) on adopting changes to the Constitution.

EDIT: The amendment has passed and will be adopted into the Constitution.

Well, looks like I am the new deputy. :( I hate to see immortal go.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22708) regarding the gubernatorial duties of the Domestic Deputy.

EDIT: This poll has concluded that the Domestic Deputy is not the Deputy Governor of the Capital Province. This will be passed to a Council Vote to clarify the Constitution.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22710) to determine if the Domestic Department will ALWAYS govern the Capital Province.

EDIT: This poll has concluded that the Domestic Department will govern the Capital Province in perpituity. No further action is required.

The Department of Foreign affairs is sponsoring a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22714) regarding the May 17 turn chat instruction proposal.

EDIT: The proposal met with general support and has been added to the turn chat instruction thread.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is requesting that citizens vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22715) to allow discretionary monies to be used in rushing a temple in Macao.

EDIT: The discretionary budget was approved. Foreign Affairs thanks everybody for their support. :goodjob:

The Department of Foreign Affairs is endeavoring to revamp our entire Foreign Policy. The first step in this process it to determine how our people feel about the people around us. To this end we are hosting a series of polls where citizens may rate each of our neighbors on a scale of 1-5 (5 is best, 1 is worst).

When tabulated we will have a list of civilizations from Most Prefered Nation to Rogue State. The Department of Foreign Affairs will use this list to help determine what civs get favorable deals for Peace and ROP renegotiations, who to extort and who we will support against who. Other departments could also use this list to determine who to purchase from and who to offer things to.

Please vote in each poll.

Aztecia (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22716)

Babylon (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22717)

China (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22718)

Greece (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22720)

India (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22722)

Iroquois (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22723)

Rome (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22724)

Zululand (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22725)

EDIT: These polls have concluded and have been incorporated into the new proposed Foreign Policy.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22733) to determine when the Cultural Leader can override a Governor's build queue.

EDIT: This poll has finished and the citizen's decision will be passed to a Council Vote to change the Constitution.

you should have posted a brief summary of the historic development and future possibilities of the foreign relations to the nations where you placed the polls on. not every citizen is so into our foreign relations he knows exactly which nation we have/have had concerns with.

Originally posted by disorganizer
you should have posted a brief summary of the historic development and future possibilities of the foreign relations to the nations where you placed the polls on. not every citizen is so into our foreign relations he knows exactly which nation we have/have had concerns with.
This was an excellent idea but unfortunately I didn't have the time to implement it. I will do summaries like disorganizer suggests when repolls for Phoenatics' attitudes toward the AI civs are needed.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has opened a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22813) on the revamp of our Foreign Policy. Feedback, suggestions and critique are requested.

EDIT: This discussion thread also contains the Foreign Affairs proposal for chat turn May 22.

EDIT: The new policy has been submitted for citizen approval via poll. The chat turn instructions have been posted to the instruction thread.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22889) to determine who should govern cities that are not in an active province.

EDIT: The poll has concluded that the Domestic Deputy will govern cities outside of provincial borders. This will be passed to the Council for ratification.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22895) to determine how to handle the turn chat for leaving/disappearing Designated Players.

EDIT: The poll has closed. The proposal will be passed to the Council for ratification.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22899) regarding changes to the turn chat vs. getting rid of the turn chat.

EDIT: This poll has closed. The proposed changes will be passed to the Council for ratification.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Cabinet Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22904) to amend the Constitution.

EDIT: The Cabinet has approved the changes and the changes have been passed to the Constitution.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is currently hosting a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=291603&t=4253) to accept the new Foreign Policy.

EDIT: The Foreign Policy was accepted with no dissenters.

The Department of Foreign Affairs would like to remind everybody that our Term 3 elections will be starting very soon. If you would like to contribute to the debate questions for the candidates, please join the Inquisition (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=292116&t=5647).

The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring a Cabinet Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23040) to adopt three new proposals into our Constitution.

EDIT: The changes to the Constitution have been approved.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is hosting a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23043) regarding Deputy positions for governors and the At-Large Councils.

The Department of Foreign Affairs encourages all citizens to join the Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=294677&t=2490) on war or peace with the Aztecs.

EDIT: Discussion has shown that Peace should be our objective.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has started a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23114) for the proposed turn instructions, May 26 chat turn.

Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the many new threads, but here is my question.

We were declared war on by a Suspect Nation. Was this an act that went according to the Foreign policy? Or was it more of a suprise? Perhaps I am just fishing for a comment or some ease of mind. It appears we had some deals with them previously. Did they expire?

Thanks for a response.
cp

Most likely we bankrupted them. When their economy went bottoms up they declared war to break the deals that were driving them into the poor house.

May I request that the Foriegn Affairs Dept. try to buy Democracy from Greece, India or Iriquois using Science Dept. funds.

Originally posted by Civanator
May I request that the Foriegn Affairs Dept. try to buy Democracy from Greece, India or Iriquois using Science Dept. funds.
Trade deals and Science deals don't need to come through Foreign Affairs. Those departments should make their own deals independently. If you can wait 4 turns, we'd be happy to tie this in to one of our peace renegotiations. That would give you a much better deal than a straight purchase.

The Department of Foreign affairs encourages all citizens to vote in the following polls:

Proposal for realignment of the Demo Game forum. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23442)
Proposal for the Chat Turn Thread (Format & Use). (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23443)

UPDATE: Both measures gained citizen acceptance and have been passed to the Mods and a Council Vote, respectively.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring the following polls:

Proposal for Citizens "Bill of Rights" (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23499)

Proposal for Investigation Procedures (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23500)

Proposal for Poll Procedures (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23503)

The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring the following Citizen Polls:

What backup should Provincial Governors have? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23506)

How should Deputies be appointed/confirmed? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23508)

Should Council Members be required to post a Citizen Poll when posting Council Votes? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23509)

How should Leader positions be filled when an opening is created mid-term? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23510)

What backup should At-Large Councilors have? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23511)

The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring a Citizen Vote (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23513) regarding a quorum requirement for polls/votes.

UPDATE: The decision of the citizens is to use a quorum requirement for both Citizen Polls and Council Votes. This has been passed to the Council for a Vote.

The Department of Foreign Affairs is sponsoring a Citizen Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23514) to reevaluate the rank of the Aztecs.

EDIT: The citizens have ranked the Aztecs at -9. By far the worst ranking of any civ. Azteca is now classified as a Rogue Nation.

The turn proposal for 5/29 is located here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23532).

The Department of Foreign Affairs has opened a Citizen Discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23593) regarding a Constitution revision/rewrite.

Congratulations to chiefpaco for winning the election for Foreign Affairs leader for term 3. The departing office wishes him the best of luck and success!

Bye Bye Shaitan, you led us well. :)

Term 3 Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23769)