This is where Science stuff will be discussed. Also I will post the current technology research for the current era. I took out the part with foriegn techs cause it's too much work.

Current- Physics
Next- Magnetism
After- Metalurgy or Free Artistry
Near Future- Military Tradition or Theory of Gravity
Far Future- Steam Power?
Research is debateable!!

Ancient Era: All
Middle Ages: Monotheisms, Feudalism, Chivalry, Engineering, Invention, Gunpowder, Education, Music Theory, Printing Press, Banking, Economics, Astronomy, Navigation, Chemistry, and Theology
Industrial Ages: None
Modern Times: None

As Head of the National Science Department, or the NSD I will define the deciscions I will be making in the first post of this thread.


Wonders:
Great Library (We have it :))
Cure for Cancer
Copornecus' Observatory
Newton's University

Improvements:
Library (Have in: Fox's Nest, Pherris, Civanatoria, and Washington.
University
Research Lab

Small Wonders:
Intellagence Agency(For stealing technologies)

Honorable Minister of Science, The Phoenatica Cultural Art Museum is proud to be able to offer as a gift this detailed painting of our Science achievements and opportunities. It will allow quick reference to our nations staus for the visitors of your Department. If you would like it removed, please let us know.

Cyc
Curator

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/Science320ad.jpg

goodness me Mr.Cyc, tell me, is that painting an original? or a print? And who is it by

:D

Thank you very much Mr. Cyc.

I would like some input from the science department on my proposal in the Domestic thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=276091#post276091) about building harbors to connect the new Egyptian lands.

How soon do you expect our great library to become obsolete? what are your plans after that?

As opposed to wasting all our flasks (10%?) on research that we are going to obtain through the Great Library, I vote that we reseach the Printing Press.

first we are at least goind to get Gunpowder, if that Invention. Then we will go for economics and navigation. and if we can fit Democracy in there.

Originally posted by Civanator
first we are at least goind to get Gunpowder, if that Invention. Then we will go for economics and navigation. and if we can fit Democracy in there.

I am in full support of that plan as well.

Sorry about my inactivaty(Think I spelt that right) but I didn't really plan to have an injury any time soon.

Strider
Deputy Science Leader

The Trade Department is willing to help the Science Department by acquiring knowledge of an invention called the Printing Press from the Iroquois. In exchange, the Iroquois will give us 3GPT, and 56 gold up front.

Also allow us to make a suggestion:

We can also obtain gunpowder in 1 turn, by adjusting the science rate to 70%, for a net loss of 24 gold. I talked to my traders, and they say that other nations are only willing to give us gunpowder for a world map, and 100 or more gold. If we are in desperate need of this technology, we could chose this route.

Originally posted by Chieftess
The Trade Department is willing to help the Science Department by acquiring knowledge of an invention called the Printing Press from the Iroquois. In exchange, the Iroquois will give us 3GPT, and 56 gold up front.

Also allow us to make a suggestion:

We can also obtain gunpowder in 1 turn, by adjusting the science rate to 70%, for a net loss of 24 gold. I talked to my traders, and they say that other nations are only willing to give us gunpowder for a world map, and 100 or more gold. If we are in desperate need of this technology, we could chose this route.
Foreign Affairs can get gunpowder in trade for a Right of Passage agreement, saving that 70% of our income.

Nice work on Printing Press :)

could the department heads please open a new post in the "chat-voicing-list (term2)":
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20797

is should contain the following:
department-name
chat represenatatives in order of priority

for example this could be:
joke-department
1.) leader-name
2.) deputy-name
3.) chat-rep name

this will be the only source for voice-rights, so please update it!
otherwise your reps wont get voice in the chat.

I humbly request that the Foriegn Ministry get this Gunpowder through a ROP to save Phoenatica the 24 gold coins.

We have learned Education in the most recent chat.

Originally posted by Civanator
I humbly request that the Foriegn Ministry get this Gunpowder through a ROP to save Phoenatica the 24 gold coins.
Happy to oblige. :)

Current Science:

Civanator, what advice do you propose regarding the buying of technologies from other countries and the selling of our technologies to other countries?
Are there any techs we should target for purchse and if so how would we pay for them?
Are there any techs we should or shouldn't try to sell off?

My plan is to grab an opportunity when it pops up. Like if we can buy banking than we should go for it unless the cost is outragous.
Or selling techs right now is not something i would do unless it goes for strategic things like alot of money or Maps and maybe even workers.

We can probably get Banking for free. Babylon has it now and they are so far below us on the power scale that extorsion should not be a problem. Most of the other civs don't have it yet so we could most likely extort the Babs and then sell Banking to most of the others. Foreign Affairs supports a heavy campaign of extorsion against Babylon (our citizens are not too fond of the Babs).

The plan to extort Banking from Babylon has received a good response and will likely be carried through. Please plan a contingency for getting Banking on turn 0 (if the extorsion works).

The Foreign Affairs Department strongly encourages selling this tech to the civs that don't have it yet if we get it on turn 0 or if any still don't have it on turn 1 (when we research it ourselves).

Please do go ahead and extort Banking from the babylonians and if they ever have a tech we don't, go ahead and take it from them.
Also I am in support of selling it once we get it, and demand a high price untill they won't accept it.

Extorsion? That is bad.:spank:

Let's just ask them nicely if we can have it!:D

Well.... I'm away for acouple of days and theirs alot going on(just my luck), but you guys seem to have everything worked out anyway so I'll stick to being quite :) ;)

make sure you vote in the polls and don't be quiet. especially with everything in the citizen forum. here is the budget disussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22740)

Civanator, please vote in the Council Poll (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=291952#post291952) on whether to accept GreyFox's resignation. You are the deciding vote.

Civanator, there is talk of possibly building Copernicus's Observatory in Fox Nest. The NSD has 100 gold saved in its accounts. Is there any chance we can purchase astronomy from another country?

yes there is. I'll go ask for atleast 100 more gold if not 50

Civanator.... Good Luck in getting Science Leader again! :)

We can also purchase Astro from Iroquois for Incense & dyes. Here are some possible trades with them:

Democracy <->Dye+Incense+177g
World Map + (Astro or Chemistry) <-> incense & dyes

Is it possible for FA extort some of these from some of the more suspect nations? It seems doable because we're in a strong position.

"Compared to these guys, we have a stong military!"

Astronomy and Chemistry would be a lot better for us. We really don't need democracy seeing as war could very easily come soon and astronomy is needed for the Copernicus's observatory. Chemistry will also open up the path to metallurgy and military tradition for increased weapons, or physics and theory of gravity for Newton's university. I believe that we should start pre-building for the university very quickly because it would be most helpful, in the Copernicus's place would be hoped for, we should try to get another leader.

But Civanator, you decide.

FA doesn't currently have a favorable bargaining position. We've had several unsuccessful extorsions against the Babs so we have to leave them alone for a while. China has nothing. The other nations are ranked above extorsion level. In 4 turns we will be renegotiating peace treaties and would be happy to include techs in the deal. That could save a luxury.

I've a plan. seeing as we lost Copernicus's Observatory (I'm very mad) we should start pre-building for Newton's in PDX. Seeing as it is a scientific wonder you're assistance would be desired. What do you think of my plan Civanator?

Also, we are researching Physics and we're in need of new techs to research. I propose Theory of Gravity next, metallurgy, military tradition, and then Magnetism.

Hey Civ. Here's the latest update.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/Science1030AD.jpg

Nice work, cyc. Civanator, can we schedule Free Artistry in the mix? There is a chance we may want to build Shakespeare's Theatre. Or, would you prefer trying to trade for it? Please refer to this thread. Obviously, science and wonder building need to have some level of co-ordination.
Citizen discussion: Wonder building! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23425)

BTW, there is a trade proposed to bring the knowledge of Democracy to our NSD. How do you feel about that?
Citizen Poll: Proposed trade deals and can we do them before the turn chat? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23480)

i'm sorry i didn't respond for a while i had a memorial day party and was setin up all weekend. Yes we should start pre-building newton's Uni in PDX

BTW, I am for both of the techs chiefpaco mentioned.

I have made the two trades and we once again have Indian silk imports. We also gained democracy from the Aztecs.

We are researching physics and will have it in 7 turns since I am upping the research rate. We need Theory of Gravity next and Free Artistry after that in order to implement our wonder building program.

Would the NSD please implement this research order?

I am searching for your comment, Civanator, on this matter of your queue not followed:

Public Investigation Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=304034&t=1603#post304034)

It requires your approval/disapproval, whichever you see fit.

goodbye to all cause i am not the science leader any more. :( :( :( :( :(