I've been considering collecting for a while, and I'm torn between 'nids, Tau, and Da Boyz. Leaning towards the Tyranids, but seeing this thread throws Orks back into strong consideration.

Orks are a dificult army to use, but they are a modelist's dream. You can make some very wacky convertions, specially on the vehicles: :lol:

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/21130625

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/21428041

(neither are mine).

Bugs, oth, are veeeeery nasty. A full-scale 'nid assault army (only 2-3 monsters + a huge mob of little critters) is a nightmare to stop... :(

Storm_Grunt! Storm_Grunt! :bounce: Storm_Grunt!

Welcome back buddy, its so great to see you again! :D

My marines are not painted yet (unexpected, huh? ;)), the army list (shopping list) is giving me trouble, but I think I finaly got around making a good one. If anyone is interested in it, PM me, I won`t pester you guys anymore :D

Iggy - do you prefer assaults, shootiness, hordes, elites, cool models, cool conversions, a balanced game? Whats most important to you? :)

Got myself a Killa Kan yesterday :D

Hopefully this will attract some enemy fire, provide cover to some of the Boyz and be able to deal out some damage if/when it gets into close combat. Eventually i'll get a couple more, but with front and side armour 11 (plus the almost-compulsory Armour Plates at 5 points), the one i got should worry the enemy enough

@ Stormy: don't worry about pestering people. post the list here, but wrap spoiler tags around it so if people dont want to read it they dont have to ;)

Hello again.

Not being very satisfied with my dreadought-on-tracks, I'm trying to build a better one. But I really need some new tracks... :(

Then I found this:
http://www.pbase.com/madscuzzy/image/1409660

I've been searching toy stores everywhere but no luck. Has anyone seen any toy with tracks like that?

Cheers

`kay, LMR! :) One spoiler tagged space marine rant coming up. (Quinn, how are you liking the new CSM codex?)
Does anyone have a DA codex? Using some DA army lists, a calculator, the DA Codex review and the BA Codex, I managed to krack the point costs (I think) for units that I need to make my SM Vanilla army. The whole point is, I get so much more with the DA version, plus, I would be ready for those changes in a couple of years..

DA list (everyone has frags, kraks, and bolt pistols, all sargeants are veterans)

Captain - 120 [power weapon, meltabombs]
Tactical Squad A - 195 [power weapon, heavy bolter, flamer]
Tactical Squad B - 190 [missile launcher, plasma gun]
Tactical Squad C - 200 [lascannon, plasma gun]
Assault Squad A - 280 [power fist, plasma pistol, meltabombs]
Land Speeder Tornado A - 100 [heavy bolter, assault cannon]
Land Speeder Tornado B - 75 [multi-melta, heavy flamer]
Predator Destructor - 110 [extra armour, heavy bolter sponsons]
Predator Annihilator - 145 [extra armour, heavy bolter sponsons]
Whirlwind - 85


Guys? I am having huge trouble with glueing stuff together. I always get a huge blob of glue that oozes (If I was playing Nyds or CSM I wouldn`t care :p) or I get a tiny drop that doesn`t work.. Any advice? :help:

Use superglue.
The other crap takes too long to wait >>

I use plastic cement (haven`t started with my metal chaplain yet).. Super glue is better? The thing is I dunno how to aply just the right amount of it (them miniatures sure are ... bloody tiny!)

Tactical Squad A - 195 [power weapon, heavy bolter, flamer]


If you have a power weapon here, then it's a close combat squad, and it will try to charge the enemy. If so, the heavy bolter is wasted...


Land Speeder Tornado B - 75 [multi-melta, heavy flamer]


You're mixing anti-tank and anti-presonel weapons here. I suggest concetrating on one role, it'll be far more efective, specially on hit-and-runs


Predator Annihilator - 145 [extra armour, heavy bolter sponsons]


Trade the sponsons for lascannons, or you'll quickly loose your long range tank killing capacity. Just yesterday I faced a Predator set up like this. I imobilized it and blew up it's turret on the 1st turn, then just left it to rot there for the rest of the game :goodjob:

It seems to me that alot of people are missing the tactical part of a tactical squad... They`re supposed to be flexible, not specialized. Just cos a squad has a heavy weapon it doesn`t mean I shouldn`t assault with it if I have to. If I wanted to only sit back and shoot, I`d take a Dev squad ;) Also, what if they get charged? Wouldn`t the power weapon come in handy then?

That Tornado is concentrated on one role - tank-hunting. But what if:
A) it happens to fly close to a bunch of infantry in cover? Flamin` death!
B) somehow manages to outlive the enemy tanks? Flamin` death!
C) enemy chooses to have lots of infantry and a few tanks? Flamin` death!

The thing is - lascannon sponsons would cost me extra 35 pts..

A) it happens to fly close to a bunch of infantry in cover? Flamin` death!
B) somehow manages to outlive the enemy tanks? Flamin` death!
C) enemy chooses to have lots of infantry and a few tanks? Flamin` death!

Assault cannon: 4 S6 shots with rending and 24" range :goodjob:

Good against anything. Get it on the rear of a tank, any tank, and boom


The thing is - lascannon sponsons would cost me extra 35 pts..
And what is the cost of a crippled, useless Predator? Not to mention that if you are firing at really tought armour (AV13/14) you'll need those extra 'cannons... or firing at a Carnifex/Deamon Prince...

Well, I already have an Ass Tornado on the list. But where to get the 35 pts for the Predator?

Well, I already have an Ass Tornado on the list. But where to get the 35 pts for the Predator?

Dump all the meltabombs and krak grenades, and the heavy bolter for the tactical...

krak grenades come for free with the DA codex, you can`t dump them ;) (and with the BA codex, and 99 % it will be like that in the Space Marine Redux in a year or so)

Dump the whirlwind. That will give you the points for the lascannon AND for another assault cannon for the melta-speeder...

How`s this? By losing the Whirlwind, and that Tac Squad that you didn`t like, I managed to get in the Lascannon Sponsons and another Assault Squad. I`ll leave those last 5 points in the air cos I don`t have (won`t have) an unlimited supply of models ;) Also, cos they cost the same, I can have a chaplain leading them with the Assault squads, and I can pick from a Melta Tornado or a Typhoon. Good call on those lascannon sponsons, I`m loving the idea by the minute.

Chaplain - 120 [jump pack] / Captain - 120 [power weapon, meltabombs]
Tactical Squad B - 190 [missile launcher, plasma gun]
Tactical Squad C - 200 [lascannon, plasma gun]
Assault Squad A - 265 [power fist, meltabombs]
Assault Squad B - 255 [plasma pistol, meltabombs]
Land Speeder Tornado A - 100 [heavy bolter, assault cannon]
Land Speeder Tornado B - 75 [multi-melta, heavy flamer] / Typhoon
Predator Destructor - 110 [extra armour, heavy bolter sponsons]
Predator Annihilator - 180 [extra armour, lascannon sponsons]
1495

How`s this?

Looks alot better, faster and harder hitting :goodjob:

I have an older version of the Dark Angels Codex, if you need it!

Thanks, Virote, but I have that one too. I need the new version for the rules, not for the fluff ;) Can`t find it nowhere, I might buy it on Wednesday..

Thanks for the Welcome Back's. I was wanting to take a break from the fast pace of the RTS online play of Dawn Of War and enjoy some turn based 40k fun, but I see the taskmaster has put his whip away.....What's happened to you stormy? Some tough Nobz are gonna step up and take your Warboss status if you don't get this thing rolling again.:trouble:

This Table top thing looks way too complicated. I'd like to make some of the models but the prices seem a little crazy unless your going to play them.....

Sorry if you guy's didn't want the DOW stuff in here, I'm not sure if its ok cause I don't see anyone else posting their DOW army schemes....:mischief:

Well, my crappy computer can`t run it, otherwise, I`d post some DOW pics too :D

RL 40k happened to me, and I haven`t even started playing it, :lol: Been pondering army lists all day long. Just when I set it up right, something makes me change my mind *sigh*

Why don`t you try a game of 40k Storm buddy? I`m going to a gaming club this weekend to finaly see it in action, I`m so excited :bounce:

I have a crappy computer too... lets walk together. B-SOD!(blue screen of death)

Does anyone play with Eldar or High Elves? I've got to get the newest "High Elf" army book, and an "Eldar" codex. But Currently I'm working on my 4,000 pt High Elf army... with the typical high schooler's minimum wage pay it might take awhile to get the models... gggrrrrrrrrr.

I have played against Eldar a few times.

Has anyone else heard about Apocalypse? Its a new WH40K game thingy that allows you to field ANY amount of ANYTHING you want. There is no limit to how many unit types you are allowed to field.

Want to have 20 tanks? take 20 tanks! It is meant for games of 3000+ points or so.

as you may be able to tell, i have been talking to the guy at my local GW :D

Oh yeah, apocalypse is going to be sweet! I`ve seen it online a few times. LMR! Check out the Sneek Peeks, lotsa new models are coming out with Apocalypse, and there are rumours you greenies might finaly get a new Codex around X-mas

Some new stuff is being released here in January, and word has it they are re-casting the Ork sprue (that is they will look the same but have additional bitz), and the vehicles (trukks, buggies and bikez) will be revamped.

In addition to that, the Wyrdboyz are making a comeback and there is a new Big Mek model (which is in the sneak-peek section) :)

Oh yeah, apocalypse is going to be sweet!

Then start checking army costs. Wanna field 10 Leman Russ? At current prices, that's USD$400... :( :(

Yeah, thats the only downside $$$$ :(

But it will be great for people who already have huge collections

But it will be great for people who already have huge collections

And tables?...

You can't play a 3000 point game in a regular-sized table...:sad:

On the floor. Clear the furniture and watch your step! :p

I've done that with my "Escape the City!" scenario. You know cereal boxes do pretty good buildings.

But any way here's the rough draft of my command group.


Prince 125pt
-Swordmaster(honor) 40pt; Armor of Protection 40pt; Dragon Armor 8pt; Dragon 320pt
Total: 533pt

Arch Mage 220pt
-Level 4 Mage 35pt; Book of Hoeth 100pt
Total: 355pt

Commander 70pt (deployed w/ archers)
-Pure of Heart(honor) 0pt; Reaver Bow 40pt
Total: 110pt

Commander 70pt (deployed w/ swordmasters)
-Pure of Heart(honor) 0pt; Blade of Sea Gold 40pt
Total: 110pt

Mage 95pt (deployed w/ dragon princes)
-Level 2 Mage 35pt; Elven Steed 12pt; Ithilmar Barding 5pt; Ring of Fury 30pt; Banner of Ellyrion 15pt
Total: 192

Mage 95pt (deployed w/ shadow warriors)
-Level 2 Mage 35pt; Shadow Armor 25pt; Jewel of Dusk 15pt; Silver Wand 10pt
Total: 180

Command Group Total:1480pt

I'm not sure Mage #2 will work... Cause his Shadow Armor. But it allows him to deploy w/ Shadow Warriors, which have "Scout" ability. Magic Missiles flying right at the start.

Yes I know its really pricey... but I like my troops well equiped and well lead.
Tactics vs. Numbers... I choose tactics

On the floor. Clear the furniture and watch your step! :p

Did that once. 6k point per side, 3 alied armies in each side:
Me(IG), Dark Angels Deathwing, Ultramarines vs
Orks+Orks+Chaos

Took us almost 2 hours just to deploy! :lol:

(we won... barelly)

6k for each person or for the entire allied team? But Damn! Thars a few models there. :p

Preview time!

I recently purchased an Ork Battleforce (for my birthday :D) and have set about assembling it. i got a trukk, a buggy, 5 bikes, 16 boyz and a sprue of battlefield accessories, such as oil drums and tanks traps.

i have only put together one of the boyz (the unpainted burna boy in one of the pics below), so once i get them done Waaagh! Pee-Joo will be looking a bit more menacing :evil:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/waaagh_01.png

I experimented a bit with the unpainted rokkit launcha; his launcha has broken (and is in flames) so he has taken matters into his own hands! I painted the black and yellow stripe warning sign things along the edges and also made the rokkits nice and bright, so da scum knowz they iz gonna die!
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/Rokkits.png

The only boy from the battleforce i have done is the unpainted one on the right. the other two i have semi-painted. i like the guy in the middle, the cigar is ripped straight from aaglo's burna boy. the one of the right has an IG fuel tank on his back, and the burna itself is a shoota with the end of a flamer stuck to the end. wire was used to make the hose. his goggles were made from green stuff.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/Burnas.png

The Slavez are only blue takked to the bases, because i want to add the chains and stuff before i glue them on, just to make my life easier :) There are a couple of cool ones in here; you can see in the foreground a guy who has lost his left hand, and another who has just recently lost his other hand! the guy will be white with SOS on it maybe. the guy who looks like he has been shot uses the severed head from the ork sprue and an empty IG helmet from that sprue. once i make the slaver with a cattleprod, this guy will be standing in from of it :D
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/slaves01.png

The first few bikerz i made i made straight from the sprue; no customisations. but, although in games with points it is horribly expensive, i couldnt resist making the last biker into a Nob with a power claw! In game, he would cost 30 points for the Warbike, +5 for Armour Plates and +3 for Red Paint, +22 for the Nob, +25 for the power claw, +8 for 'Eavy Armour = 93 points all up. my Warboss is 117 at the moment i think...

anyway, since the other bikerz are kinda small compared to the regular boyz, i decided i'd need to beef the nob up a bit. so used a body from the sprue and two ork arms that usually support shooters. i flattened the bottom of the body, glued it on to the biker legs, then (with the use of a little green stuff) position the arm so it is holding the handlebar. the hand needed to be cut off then repositioned. the powerclaw was made using bitz: two choppa blades, a left over shoota, an ammunition clip and two small pieces of wire from inside the powercord of an old computer mouse. the arm needed to be modified a little to accommidate the claw. The nob's head is left over from the black orc sprue i used to make the 'ard boyz. i also replaced the handle bars of the nob's bike with one of the 'ard boyz banner options (the same one that i used for Warboss Pee-Joo)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/Biker01.png

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/Biker02.png

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/Biker03.png

... kay.. are you so awesome at removing mould lines or are Space Marines the most horribly mould-line-affected sprues in teh univarse, evar?

SM's are frightfully mould-liney, but just run a craft blade over the lines lightly and they'll come off.

I try hard to get all the lines off, unless they are not in a position to be seen or if they are on the edge of something metal :)

I havent seen any space marine sprues, so i cant really comment on them

6k for each person or for the entire allied team? But Damn! Thars a few models there. :p
6k per side, 2k per person :goodjob:

I'm not doing anything... between soccer and school. Oh, god... JV got slaughtered 0-6, Varsity won 3-2 thou. But I have been thinking about re-doing my walls into foam-core instead of cardboard. It'll look cleaner.

So, what do you guys think of the new Chaos Codex and minis? I think its great for the most part (coming from a newbie ;)). What I don`t like is that we have to wait for the Daemon Codex, and that some minis didn`t get refreshed, specificaly the Obliterators and the Chaos Dreadnought.

I already adapted my SM army list to go renegade :mischief: I threw in just a few touches of daemonic influence. The warband is now led by a Sorcerer, cos the Chaos lord turned into a Spawn. They keep dragging him around with them, as a pet (like that ... scorpion-gorilla spawn in WHFB). The other thing is that the Vindicator has Daemonic Possession. Thats it for my part, everything else is pretty much vanilla Black Legion Chaos Undecided.

At higher points they will get some Possessed, and if I ever get to 3000 (yeah, right), the Sorcerer will be awarded daemonhood by Tzeentch, and the boyz will get some Flamers (lesser daemons) to keep them company! :evil:

Undecided? :lol:
I should post me Chaos list some time...

Well yeah, I`ve read they call them like that. ;)

Am I the only one that thinks Tzeentch Flamers and Horrors are the only ones that look really like they came from the Warp? You make something have its head inside its mouth.. and there`s chaos for ya. Red Arnold Scwharzenegger with a bad hair day and some horns just doesn`t feel right..

What about the Nurgle dudes... they look like someone took a dump on them, and didn't tell them about it(They never noticed... and when they did it was to hard to clean off). Nurgle- And his "turd" minions from the Abyss!

(They never noticed... and when they did it was to hard to clean off)

A true nurglian would not clean it off... :lol:

Correct, lord of decay and all that. I think the nurglings are OK, but those plague-bearers are also to... uniform and normal (only one eye..ooooh, so weird.. :shake:)

I think Khorne Daemons should look more the new spawn, a muscular bunch of spikez and clawz.. they don`t need axes.. they are weapons themselves.

On the other hand, seing as how the new plastic kits are so nifty, I spanked up a design for my Tzeentch Daemon Prince (former Terminator Sorcerer). You just need White Dwarf 333 to know what the hell I a m talking about.

Azhaman the Warp-eyed
Daemon Prince construction
- legs - pg 85, component 16
...........pg 21, components 25 and 26
- torso - pg 21, components 9 and 11
- left arm - pg 21, components 14, 15 and 39
- right arm - pg 85, component 20
- decorations - pg 21, components 18, 19, 21. 22, 29, 38
.....................pg 18, components 88 and 90 (only half the staff)
- head - pg 85, component 45
............pg 21, component 1
- eye-head with the sorcerer`s helmet horns, placed on an elongated neck (green sfuff)
- eye stalks on the diagonal tips of the chaos star on the staff (component 47, green stuff)
- eyes on left arm`s nucklebones (component 46, green stuff)
- feathered wings if I find some. or I`ll make some with green stuff.

Somefink like diz.. You like? I don`t know where to get the wings yet, the ones in the pic are Pegasus wings in a close-up.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6612/azhamanex2.jpg

Somefink like diz.. You like? I don`t know where to get the wings yet, the ones in the pic are Pegasus wings in a close-up.
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:eek: :eek: great looking bird!!!

And that termie is very nice too...

I`m going to slap a Tzeentch Icon (from the Marines Squad sprue) on his back to make him a bit more taller, since the wings prolly won`t be posed like that.

The Termie is from the GW website, nothing to do with my imagination or modeling skills, its just there for size comparison :)

Should I add a tail to it? I always wanted to slap a crocodile tail on something, eversince I saw Whipplash in He-man, 15 years ago :lol: Also, he might get a jaw and teeth, nothing to big, just to give him a wicked smile ;)

Is he to short!?!?

K.. tried the teeth, made him look retarted. Also I changed the wings cos there are some in the Possessed spure, just need to hack them of the Power Armour backpack. The mutaded hand is from the Possessed sprue, but I`ll use another, this is the only one that worked with the pictures I have. The real one will be an arm thats turned into a flaming sword. Also, the Tzeentch icon is blantantly improvised, but its 98% the same as the one in the CSM sprue. Here is a new picture, with improved cut-and-pasting, enjoy.

GW Daemon Prince, Stormy`s Daemon Prince, the sorceror before daemonhood, grunt.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/898/azhaman2sp9.png

Those bat-like wings look a lot better than the pegasus wings. the feathered wings are too angelic for a daemon prince :mischief:

That looks great, Stormy. And i think the size is fine. the icon will add some height, but if you want to make it look bigger, you can be a bit creative with your basing. make him stand on a "Pillar of Skulls" or an "Altar of Ultimate Darkness" or something :D Or a pile of dead Space Marines :lol:

I especially like the one eye :thumbsup:

You guys are making it even harder to resist the Eldar...(is that entirely a bad thing?) :lol:


I'm split, 27 of the voices in my head say wait for you to finish at least a 2k, High Elf Army... 23 say do it NOW! (My head needs a super-majority to put something into effect;))

I do have 10 Loyalist Marines just hanging around.. Loyalist scum! Thou shall base my Legion!

OK, I have a question. Has anyone seen a chaos Dreadnought sprue? I was looking at pictures and can`t, for the life of me, see where they put the storm-bolter on his left arm!? :confused: The reason that I am asking is.. well.. what if I use a good ole mutant claw? :mischief:

I have decided not to go along with the Prince, the Flamers and the Possessed. The Vindicator will stay possessed tho. Insted, I am including Fabius Bile. Now thats one sick SoB! My fav character, by far. Why am I going without daemons? Well.. I basicly am going to Chaos just cos the models are cooler (plus, an idiot could paint the Black Legion :mischief:).

DragonBird, how much do you need to finish for 2k?

LMR! - Tzeentch has feathered wings ;)

Tzeentch has feathered wings ;)
True, but i still stand by my comment: bat wings look more daemonish than feathered wings :)

I remember I nearly took my army over to the "Dark Side", but then I chose that I'd stick with the Dark/Blood Angels + Inquisition...

But.. the Dark Side has so much cooler models :evil: Imagine the new Spawn elongated head (the hooded, executioner looking one) on a Dreadnought with a Spawn Crab Claw instead of the power-fist, a whole crapload of Chaos icons and big spikes?

You can effectively make Diablo! with the new Spawn Sprue.. Just need make the head with green stuff.

Imagine the feeling of seeing my Inquisitor, a mere man, taking said Dreadnought down!

I'm thinking of (eventually) finishing my Dark/Blood Angels, so that there are enough to field about a small army of each, and making an army based around some stereotypical Arabian planet. I'm sure that I could scrape together enough Tallarn (SP?) to effectively make an army of conscripts and "clergy", with the bulk of the army made up of SM's...

Just get Catachans and make some Turbans. Far cheaper than getting them awkward metal models.

Meh, if the dice-gods are with you, a single grot could wipe-out a hive-fleet :p

Did I mention that I plan to have Fabius Bile, the most sadistic bastard in teh univarse, with a retinue of 10 Enhanced Warriors to visit my Black Legion and have some tea? How to model those.. I wonder..

Tea? Mighty warriors of Chaos drinking tea?! Surely they have coffee, especially those Khorne Berserkers...

Bah, we Orkz drink gud ol' mushy juice. makez us grow bigger and greener dan da rest! WAAAGH! We makez a mess of Fabulous Bile! Warboss Pee-Joo wud make Fabulous Bile look like a durty lil Grot!

Ahem... sorry about that. It's not easy being green...

What are the stats like for Fabius and his Enhanced Warriors?

I cant wait til my next battle. Those guys are gonna get a nasty surprise when they suddenly find 33 more boyz (2 nobs, 1 mekboy, 2 kommandoz, 1 big shoota, 4 burna boyz and 22 slugga boyz), 5 bikerz (including Nob), a warbuggy, another war trukk, and a killa kan 'Waaagh!ing' towards them!

Well.. if you field more boyz, thats more points.. aren`t they going to field more points too? You might get a nasty suprise yourself?

Fabius Bile
WS 5
BS 4
S 5
T 4
W 3
I 4
A 5
Ld 10
Sv 3+

Equipment:
Chirurgeon - part magical part-mechanical harness, sorta like the Techmarine`s, but more.. "medicine"-like (grants Feel no Pain).
Xyclos Needler - Range: 18", AP:6, Assault 3, always wounds on a D6 roll of 2+
Rod of Torment - CCW, if the enemy suffers a wound from it -Instant Death, regardless of its Toughness.

Enhanced Warriors:
Any Chaos Marine Squad (meaning just the troops) can get it for 3pts per model. Befor the game roll a D6.
1- Berserk Rage! - they get super pissed off and attack each other. Roll for armor saves for each of them. Survivors are Fearless and +1 strength for the rest of the game.
2-5 - Stable Mutation - same, except without fighting each other.
6 - Created a Monster - Fearless, + 2 strenght. But I have to remove one model after each of my turns. I can pick the model I want.

I have to see what I can use for them. If I don`t have to use marines, I am thinking of making Chaos Ogryns. Unfortunately the cool, new ones are expensive.. Imperial Guard Ogryn Auxilia (5 Cadian Shock Troops, 1 Cadian Officer, 1 Commissar and 10 Ogryns) - 100£. A single Ogryn is 10£... so yeah, its cheaper, and gives me some loyalist models to ripp apart.. but still.. 100£ :(


On another note, I am so stealing this idea -
http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics11/img468afe027a13e.jpg
only I`ll have them dark green, and lashing tails. Some could have parts that are on fire..

Since the Spawn kit lets you make 2 spawns, I`ll make one to be
the former Leader of the Warband, and the other one an Undivided Greater Daemon (not a prince, oh and - screw Tzeentch :P, we don`t need stupid marks, we`re the Black Legion!) - modeled very much like Diablo. only green and with his back on fire. I wonder if the Spawn Torso is to small for Shaggoth`s legs? Can anyone who is more into (has the models, saw the models, can estimate from pictures..) this check this out for me? Thanks.

Right, so, if the GW pictures are up to scale, then we get this :mischief:
Watcha think? See the blue part of the arm holding the sword? Imagine him painted like that only green. So, very dark with an eerie green shine. he`ll also have the mandatory chains, skulls, chaos stars etc.. on display. Oh, and I won`t pose him like that, I was limited by the pictures available.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/923/greaterdaemonofchaosundlp4.png

Tea? Mighty warriors of Chaos drinking tea?! Surely they have coffee, especially those Khorne Berserkers...

Thats reassuring... I HATE coffee, and I love being good... but not too good :shifty: . If there is one thing I hold true... Its that evil armies are not for me.

.. If someone`s doesn`t say how my Greater Deamon is awesome, very soon, I`ll start swinging my axe around..

Wow, look at that Greater Daemon! It's awesome!! :D

Seriously, it looks very good :thumbsup:

Fabius sounds pretty darn scary.

And when i play with my mates we dont take points into account. we just make it roughly even (last time it was IG/Eldar vs Orks/Tau/Black Templars). And a large part of my problem was the boyz dying from shooting before they had a chance to get into combat.

But now i have the warbike squad (which have a 5+ cover save and provide a 5+ cover save to units behind them), the grot mob (providing a 5+ cover save to those behind them) and my mekboy has a kustom force field (5+ cover save within 6 inches)

You may also say that my c`n`p is very good :smug:

Wait.. how do you shoot something "behind them"? Don`t you need a Line of Sight? Or if its a cannon shell coming from above.. it goes over "them".

The guys over at Bolter & Chainsword are tempting me to go with Word Bearers, but once you go black.. :mischief:

The "Living Shield" rule doesn't affect barrage weapons, i presume, for exactly the reason you stated. but i think you can shoot through Grots if you pass a Leadership test

The grot special rules are great. Apart from the Living Shield one that i was just talking about, they have one that lets Ork mobs re-roll difficult terrain movement when moving through difficult terrain that contains a grot mob (the orks walk over the grots), and a mine clearance rule that removes 3D6 worth of grots and then removes the minefield

Well those Grots sure are useful! Get some more! :D

They also gave my a psychological edge in my last battle. The guy using IG stopped at nothing to try and kill all the Grots, since they are captured Guardsmen and he wanted to "kill all the traitors"

so that meant my orks werent targeted for a while, but the grots didnt last long either, especially after they were assaulted by 3 ogryns

Oooh, I like ogryns. The new ones I mean. They might become Bile`s boys in my amry one day.. On another note.. has anyone seen the Vampire Count`s Black Coach? It has a vampire in a casket, and the casket`s lid is ornate..

I`d like to use it for my Dreadnought`s sarcophaghus, but I`m unsure of the size, since it seems GW pictures are not really up to scale (the ones after you click on the unit in the miniatures gallery).

I havent seen the coffin, but i think the easiest thing to do would be to ask someone at your local GW store. they would be in a better position to know :)

But I don`t have a local GW store. I have a retailer, and people overthere couldn`t tell a Bloodthirster from a Blood Angel...

(Coffin! I tried so hard to remember the word, the casket was the closest that I got. I refused to have a look, due to severe lazyness..)

I`ll ask around on other forums, thanks mate!

I'm planning to head in sometime soon. i'll ask the guys there if i remember :p

Oh, and be sure to mention its a Loyalist Dread, not the Chaos one (ugly model). :thanx:

So it's a Space Marine Dread that you are converting to a Chaos one? Sounds good, i always like converting things! :)

On another note, i have made the last of the boyz a Kommando with a beret and a backpack full of explosives :evil:

Yah, both of them will be converted to Chaos. The coffin one will also have "the fax machine in the back row" sitting on top.. churning out unholy text.
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/witchhunters/catalog/images/withhunter_retinue_c.gif
- I am going with a daemon heavy force. I think Word Bearers offer much more room for conversion than the Black Legion (which I`ll definatelly start collecting in paralel, when I win the lottery). Not to crazy about their color scheme, but I`ll make them a splinter warband, with a little different colors. I`ll probalby use the new Flagellant sprue for the Terminators! 10 insane prophets of doom with huge armour and bad attitude! Also, the new Dark Angels veteran sprue offers some great Aspiring Champions :D

Please ask the GW people about my Greater Daemon, is it doable? I just need the chest part of the Spawn torso to equal that of the Shaggoth, abdomen would be green stuffed.

So ask if the Chaos Spawn torso is in proportion to the shaggoth body?

Yes, but only the ogre part of the body, above those funny little dragon arms/front legs. Basicly just the rib-cages.. Couldy you maybe print out my picture and show it to him? That would be easiest...

Good idea.

I think i'm gonna get another killa kan when i go, too... :D

It would be of my opinion that it would be too big.
That meaning, it would be perfectly fine. You can always cut it down :D

Quinzy, what would be too big? The coffin lid or the spawn chest?

Here is a picture of the Dreadnought, but, again, I`m not 100 % sure the scale on their pictures is true.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/63814/Lexion.JPG

The servo and the lid would be painted like stone (not the papers tho, so its a machine in stone).

That's to scale, yes. But there'll be alot of coffin lid hanging under the bottom. I'l looking at my Loyalist- Converted Dread right now and in relation to the average human a coffin lid would be a bit big.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9434/lexionyl4.jpg

.. Well, I was thinking GS would save the day..

The coffin is longer than the Dread's casket, so some conversion work is in order...

Well yeah, like its in the picture, some green stuff and voila..

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9423/chaoslistir0.jpg

TOTAL 1693

And then to make it a usable list I need to make these changes:
(minus the Dreadnaught) 1556
(sorcerer as lietenant [down to 45 base and no WoC]) 1526
(Possessed with Talons, not Mutation) 1501

Huh? Add what? Where?

Who add what where? What are you talaking about?

Oh right. Yeah, I edited it.

Have you guys read the Apocalypse battle report in WD? It's insane!! Massive battle! :crazyeye: :eek: :eek:

It also proves that 1000-strong chapers are impossible... thus one battle killed almost a full batle company... :lol:

@ jlvfr - well.. apocalyptic battles are not your normal everyday battles.. Its quite possible to have 1000 strong chapters unless major bad thingz happen, and they end up in a lot of crap.. And major bad thingz don`t happen every day ;)

Wait.. isn`t this September? I have the September WD issue, it has a Chaos vs. Guard battler report. Apocalypse is due next month. Next month is October. You have the October WD. And its half of September. I`m not feeling well :crazyeye:

Quinn... You can DL the new Codex via torrents.. I think you are a bit short on heavy.... and speed. Some rhinos perhaps?

Yeah i'll grab the new codex soon. And regarding heavy, I've a Defiler coming up soon. I have to assemble him yet!
And my Daemon Prince will be winged.

The Defiler no longer has indirect fire, just so you know. So you have to actually move him with the new rules. He`s also a bit faster, I think.

Battlecannon has changed? Okay then... I'll peek at the new rules when I get the chance :)

Till then, how bout some pics of your marines? ;)

it has a Chaos vs. Guard battler report. Apocalypse is due next month.

Lamest IG list ever, don't read it... :mad:

Once I get some batteries that /work/ I'll have some shots up :D

I find every GW battle report amusing. Because they make some pretty stupid mistakes that even I, who have never played, and have a pretty loose grasp on the rules, can see them.

I gave up reading them after they cheated with the "new" Tau

I mean, we all know its fake... And it certainly works for me, I always want to buy the winner ;) But they could atleast be more serious about it..

Yeah I guess it's for the humour factor, and for shedding light on tactics etc.

No, I meant serious like - not do stupid mistakes.

If they didn't do the stupid mistakes then some of the crapper armies would be hammered though :P

Well, if you wanted to hear a battle report I had a CTF battle and I lost... badly(It was bad because I almost won)... But it wasn't my fault...

I used a 2x2 field w/ skirmish rules(Kill-team in 40k). We were allowed around 250 pts of un-mounted units. I had my high elves. My ally had Wood elves. My 2 enemies had Dwarfs and (however unlikely)Orcs and Goblins.

My battle plan was to position my best fighters in a wedge w/ woody ranged units in the center. Swordmasters made up the bulk of my army. I also had a lvl 2 mage to fill it in.

First, my Ally and I started by Bombarding the approaching enemies with missle fire. (My mage missed out on the Fury of Khaine spell, but got curse of arrow attraction.) We easily drove back the first wave. You'd think we win right? Well as we readied our men for a charge on the center line of the Orcs(but mostly goblins) and Gobs. Thats when thing went south... Black Orcs don't like to be killed... The arrow fire did almost nothing... and my mage had no offensive spells... So I used "Walk through Worlds" on my mage and had him half way back when the assaulting Black Orcs broke through the defensive line holding the back the orcs who had our flag. I mean, After they killed the swordmasters(no easy task) they only had to run through archers.

But we lost... It was a close game. We lost because My mage failed to cast his etherial speel and the orcs coming back with the flag charged and killed him. So W/ the remained of the swordmasters I re-captured the enemy flag. I ran it to the capture point but we were to late...

It was a good fun game.

Dat iz right! Green iz da best! :D

I know how it feels when you just can't kill something with shooting, it happens to me almost every turn! I get to roll lots of dice for Ork shooting, but i only ever hit a third of the time...

My greatest shooting achievement was killing a Wraithlord in one turn with rokkit fire. My Warboss used his ammo runt to re-roll to hit and succeeded. so now my mate has bougth another one... :(

Aren't wraithlords supposed to be nearly indistructible? And Awesomely powerful... The best shooting feat was routing 40 orc spearmen w/ 10 archers in one turn.

Niiice :thumbsup:

Yes, nearly indestructable ;)

I needed to roll 5+ to hit, then 6s to wound, i think.

and i managed it :D

Thats bittersweet... I mourn for my brethren of my future army... But thats just to awesome. oh... I have a slight problem of targeting all my mages w/ fury of khaine on enemy generals and their bodyguard... It must suck when you get hit w/ d6 strength 4 wounds... 4 times w/ no armor saves. I just need to find an item that makes all hits auto wound(in spells)... that would be awesome.

for shedding light on tactics etc.

Don't ever use their tatics. You do, you'll be squashed flat...

Here's a preview of part of my new-found army, some kind of cross between the SAS, a Secret Police force, and the Secret Services.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/viroteconsidon/SpecialPatrolGroup.png

As you can see, no expense is spared (although they will only be used in small groups as "allies", anyway)

Took me a while to crunch trough that.. An awfully big piece of paper for 12 models..
I find this format much easier to follow. (no points cos every other WH forum I`ve been to screams agains them, abiding the law `n all).

9 Tactical Marines (frags, kraks, heavy bolter, meltagun)
Veteran Sargeant (frags, kraks, bolter pistol, close combat weapon, artificer armour, auspex, bionic, melta bombs, purity seals.)
Rhino (Dozer, armour, Hunter Killer, storm-bolter, smokes)

Are you going to do anything special to them? Appearance-wise, i mean

if them were IG, i would have suggested something like berets or balaclavas to make them look Special Ops, but that might be hard to do with Space Marines...

Well, you`d just need helmetless sargeant heads for them all, and here come the berets. I don`t see why not :)

A space marine sargeant. So bad-ass his bare head doesn`t freeze in outer space.

Also, there is a special rule that every guardsman learns - if we somehow end up fighting Astartes, you may not shoot lasguns in their sargeant`s faces, that would be unfair. Armour is OK, cos it can`t hurt them. Besides, we could be the ones being wrong. Killing the Holy Emperor`s finest, not a good way to promotion.

I think I'm just going to pain them solid black for the most part, the Rhino and all.

Maybe you could make them a deatwatch kill-team? :)

Ok, so in the Apocalypse Releases there is a formation of 3 Vindicators called the Line Breaker Squadron.

These are the words of Galahad_Knight,a Blood Angels player, referring to a "squad" of two baals and a vindicator.
I prefer the hybrid "Baal Breaker Squad"
Two big red Baals and a nice thick gun driving up the middle, able to slap into the flanks and penetrate deep and hard, releasing their massive payload into the faces of your unlucky foes.

If you're BA, you've put your Baals on the table.

:lol:

:lol: :lol:

When are you going to GW, Dave? :bounce:

Tomorrow. I have an appointment at the optometrists, so i'll go after that, since they are in the same shopping centre.

The Baal Breaker squad is actually a counter-female-player psychological warfare method. :D

BTW, didn`t anyone notice the stone idol behind the Purple Daemon pictures I posted a while ago? Thats Slaanesh`s work right there for ya :crazyeye:

Cool! Please ask them, it would mean alot to me :)

Ooo! Ooo! Dave! Ask them if the Irongut head with the chainmail mask would fit on a terminator! I supect not, but worth a shot :)

Oh, and if they look at you funny, you have my permission to tell them I am a bit retarded and that I made you promise you`d ask :D (:blush:)

Counter Female eh... It might backfire if your playing your date... It'll scare guys away from the table too.

That reminds me of a comic... (has some langauge... but hey I think you can take 2 words..)

http://files.redvsblue.com/web/images/comic/20070911RT0168.jpg

Thats what you call an "Oh God" moment... Oh, and I got my revenge on them Black orcs! MWAHAHA! oh... sorry...

My mage rolled and got the Fury of Khaine spell. I cast it twice on their unit... then charged its flanks with White Lions (I just got a couple models) from a forest(they have no movement penalty in forests). They didn't run... thats should please you. But with great weapons attacking from 2 sides, armor saves don't add up very well.

So, DB, you gonna buy some of those new High Elves? They are being released October 20th..

Bad news Stormy. The GW store wasnt open today when i went, they are doing renovations or something.

but don't worry, i WILL find out for you :)

I counter your question with another. What High Elf army collecter isn't? Hmmm? :p

Thanks, mate, means alot to me! :)

@DB - watcha gonna get?

Most likely the Shadow Warriors, Pheonix Guards, and White Lions.

So how come any of you buggers didn`t tell me of the Maelstrom shop? (http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=cat&cre=min-40k)

Its awesome! Cheaper than GW and free posting anywhere in teh univarse. Forevar.

Cos i've never heard of it before :D

So do you need me to ask my guys those questions still? cos i'll probably go tomorrow some time

Well click on the link, its much cheaper. Plus you get "moneyback" points, that you can use as a discount on later purchases.

I would appreciate if you would ask them, yes :)

So its the coffin lid on a loyalist dreadnought, spawn torso on Shaggoth, nevermind that question about the Irongut, I`ll pass on that. Anywho, just print out the pictures, they should get the idea. Thanks mate!

*Deleted by self for extreme dumbness*

Oh, please do share, I don`t get e-mail notifications of who said what on my subscribed threads..

C`mon, what did you say? :)

Yea I've done some dumb things before to... Spill it out! (The Russian Snipers thing) Yep... :p That was down right stupid.

I wrote "don't use Maelstrom if you're in europe because costoums taxxes from US are bloody expensive"... :blush: :blush:

And they`re from UK. The thing is, with Croatia atleast, is they spank a sticker on it, saying Toy, 10 Pounds Sterling, voila, no customs.

I`ve been to a gaming club yesterday, met some real players, really cool people, I`ve already been invited places.. They recomended it.. I save 5 € on a squad of 10 CSM, if I buy from them.

What do you mean "real players" I like to think of myself as a real player... an ametuer sure... but a real player. ;) Very lucky... Think I could get some Eldar from them?

When I get some cash that is...

Ok, saw the guys at GW today, and they said:

* Irongut head would be too big for terminator body
* Chaos Spawn body too small at the waist for the shaggoth legs (unless you did some extensive green-stuffing) but a dragon ogre body would be a better fit.
* Black Coach coffin lid is about twice the size of the casket on the dreadnought, but wouldnt look stupid with some conversion work

hope that helps :) You'd be pleased to hear that the guys were impressed by your ideas and loved the look of the daemon prince dude :D

on another note, battled today against IG, and (because im a stupid nice guy) i let my mate use a display baneblade from the store. The first round of firing by that alone destroyed all by bikers, a war trukk and 1 boy, and 13 'Ard Boyz! my burna boyz made a mess of a leman russ exterminator and his command squad tho, which was something.

i had tonnes of bad dice rolls: the worst was when my killa kans hit the side armour of the leman russ and scored three penetrating hits. and i rolled two 1s and a 2 for the damage chart (which is shaken and stunned, i think). luckily the burna boyz were able to get through the front armour...

all in all, it was the baneblade that made things incredibly difficult, as he had a basilisk sitting at the back as well, firing away.

The first round of firing by that alone destroyed all by bikers, a war trukk and 1 boy, and 13 'Ard Boyz!

oOOOo!! :goodjob: :eek:

I want one of those!

Ok, saw the guys at GW today, and they said:
* Irongut head would be too big for terminator body
* Chaos Spawn body too small at the waist for the shaggoth legs (unless you did some extensive green-stuffing) but a dragon ogre body would be a better fit.
* Black Coach coffin lid is about twice the size of the casket on the dreadnought, but wouldnt look stupid with some conversion work

.

Dragon ogre body is quadripedal, and not so impressive as the Shaggoth :D
The area between Shag`s waist and Spawn`s chest has exstensive GS sculpting in plan.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2898/jorgethedaemonsi8.png
Glad to hear about the coffin lid, too. And about the fact that they liked it!

@DragonBird - you can get Eldar, Elves, whatever GW stuff you want if they have it in stock. And they usally do. They are having sales on old models and some won`t be available anymore. When I was online yesterday, they sold their last 3 Valtens, last 2 Old CSM Possessed and the old Flagellants. All the newer stuff is available, tho. They also sell paints, brushes, etc. The only thing they don`t sell is minis for Specialist games.

@DragonBird and LMR!, and.. everyone thats interested - go to Warseer Forums and check out the News and Rumours sub-forums for 40k and WHFB respectively, you`ll find photos of new Orks and High Elves. There are also some new daemons and Vampires models and other stuff.

I played a game today w/ 2 friends.

It was a last stand scenario.

The Alliance of High Elves and Wood Elves stood in defience of the orc hordes.

We played on a 5'x5' table w/ my High Elf walls and Towers. 1000pts of Woodies, 1000pts of High Guys, and 2000pts of Orcs and Gobbs.

What basically happened was on the first turn I used all my spellcasters and bolt throwers on the Orc Warboss (w/ wyvern friend) and killed him. Half his army ran. I present you with his response: DAMMIT! RALLY DAMMIT!

Then on his turn, half of what was left rolled for animosity. I shifted my spellcasters to the east wall w/ my Lothern Seaguard. This was where the greatest concentration of Orcs were. The remenants of the Orcs charged. The Wood Elves nearly fell (they had them freaking black orcs!), but once the enemies climbed up the walls the Glade Guard backed away and the Wardancers and Spellweavers preceded to screw them over.

Grrr... i don't know if i should feel happy for you or not ;) :p

That's a good plan tho, to eliminate the Warboss early

Yes... The half the ran were all cowardly grots. The others had a good fight... well the ones that got up on the walls did anyway.

That Wyvern scared me... Flying Ability + Brute Strength = Screwed

Great plan, mate! I suppose it would work well on Imperial Guard, eh Dave?

"How many Guardsmen does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
"50. 1 to do it, 49 to die trying".

"How many Guardsmen does it take to screw in a light bulb?"
"50. 1 to do it, 49 to die trying".

That plan isn't fail-safe, unless you include some last chancers too :)

Dang it, aki-boy, there are other books, we all know you`ve read Thorpe`s lil` novel ;)

Try the Horus Heresy series, they rock..

(and that 1 that does screw it in, will get killed right after he does it :p)

Ngyaah! :p - I have so much to read... including the whole horus heresy -saga (from which I've heard that it'll be about 20 books altogether - so far there are 6 made). I'd like to wait for the omnibuses.
So far I've read: Eisenhorn-omnibus, Last chancers-omnibus, Gotrek&Felix-omnibuses 1 and 2 + giant & orcslayer. Next I was thinking about the Gaunts ghost - not because the subject is very interesting, but because the writer (Dan Abnett) is an awesome writer.

About something I've totally missed previously in this thread:
I love the ork conversions by LMR!, especially the trukk with interchangeable lego-fixing-weapons :) And all the rivets & plates :)... damn, I almost want to make it into a civ3-unit ;)

Any chance of seeing it painted, Lizzy?

Glad you like it! I will definately get around to it :D Watch this space ;)

At the moment i'm making some more slugga boyz to boost the numbers in my two main mobs, and as soon as i get some primer i'll get down to some painting

Ngyaah! :p - I have so much to read...

I seriously advise these two stand-alone boks:
"Fifteen hours"
http://www.blacklibrary.com/product.asp?prod=60100181001&type=Book

"Double Eagle"
http://www.blacklibrary.com/product.asp?prod=60100181002&type=Book

And for something a bit diferent, a book every IG soldier should carry next to his/her heart:
"Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer"
http://www.blacklibrary.com/product.asp?prod=60710199018&type=Book

Oh, and I would higly recommend the Gaunt series, its really, really good.

New Orks Sneak Peek! (http://us.games-workshop.com/news/sneakpeek/40K/)

Niiice! That new Wartrukk looks suitably sharp and pointy Not sure when they get released over there, but i have to wait til January :(

Which means all my christmas money will be saved up and spent in one fell swoop :D

... Dave.. where do these things become available first? The friggin Japan!UK! Where is Maelstrom from? UK! And you can even buy them cheaper then from GW. And they send it to you free, to your house. You don`t have to walk any further than your front door..

My walls are not unbreakable... :( Well... It took 3 dwarf cannons, 1 Grudge Thrower, and and an Imperial Great Cannon; 3 turns to kill the wall (WOW). The city did not fall. I timely charge by my Brettionain Ally routed the invading troops. He sent his Questing Knights to take on the artillary. Meanwhile my Lothern Seaguard and Archers poured volley upon volley into my attackers infantry leaving the young lads of Knight's Errant to mop up the survivors. PTs wise it was a tie (heavy losses), but I think it was a victory cause the port pouring troops into the land survived.

Can you post pictures of your walls? :)

The guys over at the club I`ve been to made an award winning 40k terrain.. with fog.. lasers.. watchtowers.. I`ll dig out the youtube file and post I link. It left me speechless.. I couldn`t even say the usual stupid things I`ve become known for around here :D

They are also making all sorts of terrain. One sick-o actually made a mould for rooftops.. and they just keep cranking them out :crazyeye:

That sounds uber-cool :drool: Do find that link!

I hope that one day we will have a gaming table that isnt a shiny wooden top with grey plastic ruins and a cardboard building. i made a tanktrap/small cover, as well as a fence and a apocalypic city ruin thing, with half a fence, some oildrums, rocks and a burnt out car :D

i've actually started painting that, so i'll post a pic soon(ish)

@Stormrage,
Please, do find the link. I'd like to see some stunning modelling craftmanship... :)

@MeasuringDeviceToBeUsedWithLizardmen (ha-ha... very funny :rolleyes: ),
Are you saying, that a cardboard box doesn't look like a proper building? Or a disposable plastic cup placed upside down doesn't look fancy enough for a fuel storage? Or a piece of circuit board is a poor excuse for a booby trap? Boy, you're picky... ;) :p

@MeasuringDeviceToBeUsedWithLizardmen (ha-ha... very funny :rolleyes: )
:lol: That is funny

Are you saying, that a cardboard box doesn't look like a proper building? Or a disposable plastic cup placed upside down doesn't look fancy enough for a fuel storage? Or a piece of circuit board is a poor excuse for a booby trap? Boy, you're picky... ;) :p

Yes, that's exactly what im saying :p Nah, there's nothing wrong with using those items, but you'd have to agree that "proper" terrain makes a battle look and feel a lot better

Well....
Pictures!! We need pictures!!!

And you will get pictures.



In due time ;)

I can`t find the damn link. I found two videos about the club, but both are just some news reports, boring. And my cell phone died today (RIP) and I can`t contact any of them to give me a link. I`ll do my best tho to provide it soon.

My Walls are nothing to special... Its made out of foam core. Coragated Cardboard had ridges in the sides that made my "iffy" paint job look even more crappy.

But They have my cool(ish) battlements that are way to hard to make with a hobby knife. I'm trying to develop a light-light-light yellow textured finish to make it look very cool. Or maybe a white marble finish(leaning towards marble)

Finnally managed to finish my army! 1 week to the GT and I wasn't done... :blush:

My commander:
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/co

The troops:
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/sm_troops

The 2 venerable dreads:
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/dreads

Great stuff jlvfr! Good luck at the GT :)

Bird, I`m leaning towards yellow. Marble`s so.. overused..

I always liked the idea of gleaming towers... But my army could be an expiditionary force, with hastelly constructed fortifications.

duh.. forgot you play elves.. gleaming towers is the way to go then!

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Sounds Awesome... but I don't think there's any Eldar... so... well, I have a friend (who is ugly and everyone hates(not really(well...))) who has some Space Marine models. He's the only person in my circle of friends(who regularly play WH stuff) who has WH40k models.

Dammit, just go sign, and take yer buddy with ya. :gripe:

:p

Fine... :p

Okay, I promised pictures, so pictures you shall get:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/TerrainFront.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/TerrainSide.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/TerrainFrontOrks.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/TerrainSideOrks.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/TerrainTopOrks.png

Lovely :goodjob:

That looks very nice :)
Are orks really that big compared to a car? :)

Thanks guys!

Nah, the car was the only half-destroyed car i could find at my place. it probably is a bit too small, but most of the WH40K vehicles aren't to scale anyway...

Hell yes! They're big'n'mean!

No.nononononono.
You just should have answered "Hell yes! They're big'n'mean!"
:thumbsup:

;)
.

Isn`t the whole point of WH to buy a 20 $ toy car and then wreck it yourself? :mischief:

Not when you are saving the $20 to buy more orkz :D

Hopefully, eventually i'll have tonnes of terrain to scatter around, cos my boyz get cut down against anyone half decent at shooting

Isn`t the whole point of WH to buy a 20 $ toy car and then wreck it yourself? :mischief:

*insert shameless self-promotion*

expensive convertion-r-us (http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/21303108)

See that turret? It's from an M60A2. The model cost me 30 $... and I threw the hull away, after smashing it for bitz... :crazyeye:

Wow, that looks great! Very intimidating :thumbsup:

Who followed the link should also follow it onwards, to the Fun Models section.. its awesome! Great stuff in there..

kewl tank btw!

Who followed the link should also follow it onwards, to the Fun Models section.. its awesome! Great stuff in there..


Thanks. That's about 4 years of models found, some local some from other sites/countries.


kewl tank btw!

Took me 2 years to find the M60A2 (and it wasn't the tabk I really wanted...), then another 4 months to get all the other the parts. Got very lucky on the sponsons: a guy from another forum bought a Forgeworld Baneblade and it came with 2 extra sponsons, which he sold me for 5$!

Kewl... I feel neglected now. I dont have any WH40k models :(

Oh, well I'll just rack up another victory as the High Elves...

HE ROX! (High Explosives;))

Haha!
This is pretty amazingly funny and disturbing. (http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/40356204)

This is doubly so! (http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/40356222)

This is also very, very COOL (http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/40356471)

Good god! They are disturbing, especially the dread!

The guy that made the kitty dread ought to be put in a padded cell... :D

Hey, that Treeman made an apperance in One More Turn Theatre! :D

the "what"? Some inexplicaple NES game...?

... aaglo.. that must`ve been a huge rock you`ve been living underneath.. check in Weasel Op`s singature.. I do hope you are familiar with the 8-bit theatre atleast, since its been mentioned around here like, a gazillion times.

Well, i havent heard of either of them. But thats ok, cos im an aussie,and we are always the last to get anything...


...except the Kiwis ;)

ZOMG I love them! My favorite line of all time from 8-bit

Are you from Venus?
-No...
'Cause your ass is outa this world!

Love them *sigh* They voted White Mage out of the "Light Warriors (Warriors of Light)" clan/group.

8-bit First Episode
http://www.nuklearpower.com/comics/010302.jpg

8-bit Latest Episode
http://www.nuklearpower.com/comics/071009.png

And 902 episodes between them! Its hillarious.. http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010302

HIDOKEN! *shhh!* It runs on love... yea, everytime he uses it, it sucks a little love out of the universe. ;)

I mean, I've heard the term "one more turn theater", but I've no idea what it's about. So, it's a kind of internet comic...?

Our very own Weasel Op is making it, it is an internet comic, inspired by the 8-bit theatre. You should read the first 50 or so episodes of 8-bit to fully appreciate the humour of OMTT.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=133751

Yeah, I read them just about a couple of hours ago. Great stuff there...

Pretty funny... just like the time today when somehow, a group of 40 goblin spearmen singlehandedly routed 40 Brettonian Men-at-Arms. They charged them and then they won the combat, and then the pansy brettonians ran. But 20 HE spearmen and a mage were able to counter them easily...

I've started targeting my magic at them Black Orcs, and they don't last very long anymore. Even with the Cannon Fodder in front of them.

Sounds like you have developed some good Green-killin' tactics there :thumbsup:

I have some problems now: my IG playing mate has bought a Baneblade... which means i am now completely screwed. but at least now i gain his allies; mainly the eldar, which might have to be fielded with tau, necrons and nids. and templars if we can :D

I'm planning on building a battlewagon, with a zzap gun and two twin-linked rokkit launchas to counter his tanks, and five bolt-on big shootas to mow down guardsmen. all up it would cost close to 200 points by itself, but since we dont play points in our games, the more the better :D

Wow! no points! ... That's what I do... and I got another Spearmen regiment. to help bulk out my forces, yesterday. I'm going to expermient on the 8 I wont use, for new paint schemes. I'm going to try to get the forest dwelling High Elves look. Mix between Welves an Helves, but noticeably High Elven. There's no good way to state it but I think I got the basic idea across

Hey guys do these helmets look familiar to any of you. I was thinking of doing the Custodes.162435. Any idea??

It's sorta Space Marine reminisent. But what are the Custodes?

Slaanesh champions, IIRC..

DB- Adeptus Custodes are the Emperor`s Bodyguard.

I think that in some older White Dorf presented an army based on those custodes - there was a lot of cool looking golden models, including dreadnoughts (which looked nothing like the regular space moron dreds)..

Exactly what Stormy and Aaglo said. From what I have been able to gleen from the net they are similair to Grey Knights. Supposedly they are compared to being slightly above GK's.. But I haven't been able to find alot. I just thought the Helemts(I know the bodies were just GKs) were especialy interesting as I have not been able to hunt any down on GW site. Thought I might have some luck with your brain trust here( http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/taylor_heresy/default.htm). Seems like a cool concept, found some stuff in the Wiki and GW had a little splash on them. Alot is left up to interpretation.

Holy, cow! With the release of the new HE models I've decided on a tactical theme for my army.

Highly mobile and hard hitting forces, I was thinking about White Lions, Lion Chariots, Ellyrion Reavers, and Shadow Warriors.

They are above the Gay Knights indeed. Custodes are made from the Gene-Seed of the Emperor himself.

DB - souns like a plan :) I love the new Lion Chariot!

The heads look like those from them Warhammer Fantasy Hoplite Mercenary guys.

I told ya, its the Slaanesh Lord`s head. I `m quite sure of it.
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/hordesofchaos/catalog/images/slaaneshlordmounted.gif

Aaah yeah, tis indeed. :D
I though it might have been one of these guys:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/dogsofwar/miniature-gallery/images/alcatani-big.jpg

Thanx guys. I apreciate it. I belive Stormy is right do to the medal thingy that sticks up from the helmet before the bristles come out. IMHO.:mischief:

You mean the Crest?

Yes, can't wait till 31st Century (hobby store) starts stocking the new HE army book! And the new Models! Woot!

What new HE army book? And models? :confused:

You know, Like the Lion Chariot, the designs for Shadow Warriors, the new Heros. They made a new Army book, they kinda needed to. Them Lion Chariots are completely new.

Come see em' (http://uk.games-workshop.com/highelves/preview/1)

I thought we were talking about 40k. HE also means Heresy Era... :blush:

Aaah yeah, tis indeed. :D
I though it might have been one of these guys:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/dogsofwar/miniature-gallery/images/alcatani-big.jpg

These guys are totally awesome!

Aren't they? :D

What, you never saw a medieval hoplite before? :p

I wish Lorenzo Lupo had his own company :(

I've never seen one... (It might be, 'cause, I live in the 2000's, not the 1600's :p)

Sorry 'bout the confusion of HE. I'll not take anymore short cuts.

About that Alcatani fellowship.. the front rank dudes are hilarious..

*ngh.. I don`t know about you guys, but I`m putting this stick down and getting myself a beer*

Those Alcatani's are the reason we (me, embryodead & mrtn) added the hoplites to the WHFB-mod (for tilea or estalia, I already forgot :D ).

Its Tilea :) They were fun for a while, but eventually I kicked them out of my copy..

Hia folks

Here are some photos I took of armies present at the UK GT heat 1. Enjoy :)

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/gtuk2007

The 1st 3 were Tau, Eldar, Chaos SM.

Smashing!
That pimped'up landraider (the wide cathedral version) looks awesome.

Those Alcatani's are the reason we (me, embryodead & mrtn) added the hoplites to the WHFB-mod (for tilea or estalia, I already forgot :D ).

Ayup.

My latest minis; a couple of puppies and a very Igor-like ungor:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/Warhounds.jpg

Nice puppies! Greenstuff?

About that Alcatani fellowship.. the front rank dudes are hilarious..

*ngh.. I don`t know about you guys, but I`m putting this stick down and getting myself a beer*

If you've seen the 13th Warrior(movie) it makes sense. They look like they are getting ready to repel a cavalry charge.

Nice puppies! Greenstuff?
Thanks.
Just a bit in the gaps. They really are nice models, a pity they're so expensive. But I needed some for my Mordheim warband, so I bought a blister, at least.

DB - I know its a proper pose, other non-wh pikeman minatures use it often, but it still kinda looks like "thats it, I`m outta here" :p

Kind of... They do look a little wierd. :p

Good lookin' hounds, mrtn :thumbsup:

Battled against the IG today, and against "Fluffy": his new Baneblade

With one gun - in one shot- Fluffy destroyed a Trukk and two of its boyz, a Killa Kan and 6 outta 8 kommandos. plus other boyz with its heavy bolters.

the highlight of the game (not for me, but it was funny) was when his basilisk shot at a trukk, and the shot scattered into a mob of 'ard boyz, killing them all!

to make things a little fairer, i was allowed to bring on "reserves" using orks that has been killed, as long as i had the minimum mob number. not that it helped much... i killed his hellhound, immobilised two sentinels and killed one, killed two servitors and a whole bunch of guardsmen, while he killed the same trukk twice, my kommando squad, both slugga boyz mobs (one twice), most of the 'ard boyz, the buggy, one killa kan and immoblised the other, and half of the burna boyz. basically everything i had died at one point or another

once again the armour plates on all my vehicles paid off: i saved two penetrating hits on a trukk, one on a killa kan and one penetrating and one glancing on the buggy from rolling the 6 that was needed.

Waaagh!

Cool battle... Like the part when the basilisk missed the trukk and wiped out the unit of Boyz.

Nothing new from me. Except the small skirmish between some Skeleton Warriors(16) and HE Spearmen(16) The layout was your basic 3'x3' desert, lots of (badly made)rolling hills with a couple tombs/pyramids(even worse). We used a tan bed sheet and put washclothes beneath it, and Legos for the structures(if it works...).

To make it interesting, you roll for reanforcements after your 4th turn, rolling a 5 = One man, 6 = 2 men. The skelos could spawn their new dudes next to the pyramids or on the edge of the table, while the elves could only spawn on the edges.

The Skelos rival gobbs in fighting skills. But they are unbreakable, and cause fear(although against an overall Ld of 8, it doesn't do much good). Although some of my men ran the real awesome part was that they formed themselves into one big 4x3 unit(thats 12 men) with the other 4 men(and spawned guys) covering the flanks. The funniest thing was that when I decimated the larger part of his units, he spawned 2 guys on the other side. Then right before I killed them another spawned on the opposite side. We followed this for about 30 minutes. Then I made a fatal flaw. I moved my unit of 12 to close to a tomb, and bam! they were assaulted by 2 Skelos from the flank(just spawned) and from 8 in the front. After that we agreed on a tie, cause I accually lost, but he lost about twice as many points from the 30 minutes of my hunt and kill sprees.

Check these out: http://www.games-workshop.de/warhammer40000/races/space-marines/hobby/rustungsschaden/anderes.shtm

Ouch!

Check these out: http://www.games-workshop.de/warhammer40000/races/space-marines/hobby/rustungsschaden/anderes.shtm

Ouch!

This is why I don't even try to paint better my models... noooooo way I'd get even close... :blush:

Aw man.. the plasma one is so cool! I mean hot! .. its great!

They're terrific - especially the flamethrower malfunction... the flames have eaten through the troopers legs, and the glow of the flames is also present. And the plasma is just gory fun... eh :hmm:

I like the chain sword guy. 'Tis but a flesh wound.

"Looks like the captian was showin' off to the ladies again"
"Yep"

The guy holding his crotch :cringe: (okay, abdomen, but it looks like his crotch :lol: )
Amazing work though!

Yep! Them Damn Damned Chaos warriors! Always runnin' around disobeying the rules of war! Shooting medics and razin' villages.

EDIT:
Woot! I just got another person in town to join our WH club... type group thingy (we are trying to get a teacher to sponser their room for us), He was stuck between the Wood Elves and the Brettonians, I think I got him to lead towards the Lady of the Lake. (We already have a welves army player)

He's getting kind of annoying really. He keeps on asking stuff like:

If I buy the guys, will you model and paint them?
No. A great part of the game is the satisfaction that you get from fielding an army that you have put your blood(From accidents with your tools), sweat, and tears(From the accidents), into making.
What are the rules.
It's complicated...
What, like chess?
Like chess to the seventh power

He's a cool guy, and yes, if we go back into the ages to when we first discovered the meaning of life, I think we can see ourselves like him(though not so annoying).

I think shootin` medics and razin` villages is plainly written in their copy of "Rules of War" :evil:

Did I post this one already? :hmm:

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/community/fanArt/fanartImages/06_2007e/084.jpg

Yes and Yes...

Played a HUGE battle today: Eldar/Necrons/Orks/Tau/Tyranids vs. Imperial Guard/Witch Hunters

The reason for the lopsidedness was the Baneblade, which (if the IG/WH had won the roll for the first turn) could have proved the difference. it did not fire once, however, for the whole game, thanks to the tau hammerhead and eldar fire prism that fired at it every turn, keeping it stunned knocking out several weapons (the two lascannons and the heavy bolter, before the bolter got repaired by servitors).

the only kills it managed was when it was assaulted by two wraithlords, an avatar, my warboss and two kommandos. the result was a cataclysmic explosion that wounded all units in a 15" range on a 2+!!

highlights included my bikes wiping out a lascannon squad with their twin-linked big shootas, and then after the other four bikes were annihilated by bolter fire from a squad and a tank, the nob mowed down all but one of the bolter squad, and that one was killed when the tank he was standing next to blew up.

the kommandos, with their tankbusta bombz, took on a penitent engine, scoring five penetrating hits from 6 attacks, and killed it three times!

after my warboss' trukk was destroyed, he managed to roll 6,5,4 and 5 for subsequent movements (his mega armour means he moves as if through Difficult Terrain all the time) and he and the surviving nob massacred sisters repentia and saint celestine (or whatever her name is) with the assistance of a unit of warp spiders.

while i held the left flank with five bikes, two trukks, a buggy, two zzap guns and a mob of boyz, and with the support of the warp spiders and the fire prism and hammerhead, the gaunts and genestealers (with a broodlord), a tau stealth squad and kroot took the right flank (assaulting into fortifications) and were backed up by two squads of fire warriors, three crisis suits and a broadside battlesuit.

the centre of our attack comprised of the avatar, two wraithlords, two killa kans and the nightbringer, backed up by 'ard boyz, burna boyz, slugga boyz, shoota boyz, necron immortals and warriors and three tyranid warriors. quite the intimidating sight for the puny 'oomies.

in the end, once the baneblade was destroyed, the guard player admitted defeat was certain and surrendered.

all of this could have been reversed if we had lost the first turn roll. both my mobs of boyz would have been devastated if the baneblade had been able to fire. it was also handy that out of the 7 tanks he had (basilisk, 2 leman russ, leman russ demolisher, chimera, hellhound and baneblade), at least four of them were at least stunned per turn, meaning the only firepower he was able to dish out was anywhere near frightening was from heavy weapons

anyway, good game, nice to get a win and now off to bed :)

Hi guys, I found a picture of this great diorama of the Siege of Terra battle during the Horus Heresy, thought I should share.
http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/ginsberg/2176/05220580.jpg

Also, some funny stuff:

I adore that diorama of the Emperor, Sanguinius, and Horus. Sanguinius is all "OH JESUS I'M BLEEDING." and the Emperor is all "Dude, I know." and Sanguinius is like "My dying wish...is that...my chapter be brutally overpowered...in...third edition.." and the Emperor was all "That's cool."

I don't see any diorama there - I just see a "FortuneCity" -ad..?

And that funny stuff is quite funny :)

Um.. I posted the picture and it was there. I came back later, saw you post, and indeed there was an ad. I googled for the picture, came back here again, and the picture was showing again?

Anyhoo.. try this link.. http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/ginsberg/2176/05220580.jpg

EDIT: I pressed the link and the ad appeared again.. Dammit! Copy the link to your adress bar.. Or try clicking, it works sometimes..

Maybe copy the image directly and save it on your computer and upload it to imageshack?

I`m begining to hate Imageshack.

Fastest way: Click the link, then just click the adress bar and press enter.

If you googled it... just tell me what your search was...

Click the link, then just click the adress bar and press enter.

The picture in post 487 is working for me... and its quite amazing! :thumbsup:

I got it working too... and yep, it's quite nice.

Managed to retrace the link to it's origin; it's a galery full of cool stuff, much it old...

http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/ginsberg/2176/id20.htm

PS: it's crud like this that made me dump free online posting.
USD$23 gives me 500MB of space in www.pbase.com; no advertising, good work tools...

The image still doesn't work, and on the links page it's the onlt link not working.
What the heck?

Oh forget it, its a a huge scene at the palace gates and its so friggin huge that everything is so friggin small, you can basicly just make out that Titan in the corner, everything else is in civ-scale, when you zoom-out.

Click the link, then just click the adress bar and press enter.

http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/gi...6/05220580.jpg

correction:
Click this link, then just click the adress bar and press enter:
http://www.fortunecity.com/athena/ginsberg/2176/id20.htm

It's not showing up. I'm still gettting the Fortune City link. :/ Every image bar that one is functional.