darn, how hard things really can be :lol:

Holy smeg, that thing's mad!

OK, now I know what I want my life to work towards...

HOLY CRAP! When I first saw it I thought that that was the guys living room, not a diorama. Its Friggin' huge!

NNNOOOOoooooooooo!
My friend who wanted woodies... defected! He's totally green!

I'm outnumbed 3 to 1 now! High Elves vs. Dwarfs vs. Orcs and Goblins(2)
It sucks.

But...

We got movement trays! Woot!
Now our games move around a third faster. We don't have to individually move each and every guy, in rank, to their spots.

Movement trays are a good idea, especially in huge games. i dont use them in 40K because there arent ranks and stuff, but i would in fantasy, if i had them.

the holidays for me have started and i therefore have more time to paint and stuff. i have basecoated both trukks, the buggy, the biker nob and one kan, and painted boltgun metal on metal bits and have painted scorched brown on all leather parts and drybrushed some over several metal bits to make them seem worn and dirty. i have also painted the ground on the kan and biker nob brown. updates to come :)

It might please you guys that I'm getting in touch with my evil side. I caught myself eyeballing the Dark Elves.

I thought about purging my unholy eyes but then... This would bring balance to the force. So... from now on, I'm no longer exclusively good... just mostly.

The hometown Hobbystore (got a ring to it. eh?) hasn't gotten any of the new High Elves models yet, but they did have a couple of the Army books. Basically the Cores are less expensive, the Cavalry is more expensive but more specialized, and special infantry have undergone a world of change.

I'll give you guys another, more detailed account, of the changes later. It's 10:00 and I'm rather tired.

Check out the new ork miniatures at Games Workshop :)
http://uk.games-workshop.com/orks/gallery/1/

My new tracked dreadnought, still wip:

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/wip

That's pretty cool :thumbsup:
It almost makes me want to make it for civ3 - as a chaos dreddy ;)

Where did you take those tracks?

Great idea and well pulled off. Cant wait to see it painted :D

Very cool!

Thanks folks :)

Took me a looong time to find such tracks. Finnally, recently, a guy in another forum suggested a brand called Robogear. Victory!

WHFB: I play Lizardmen:) (around 2800 points, Painted Green.), and I am working on an Ogre Kingdoms army.(currently at 1500 points)

40k: Eldar(1500 points) and creating my own Space Marines chapter (4 tactical squard 'rines and 3 assault 'rines painted. Currently painting Rhino. Black and Orange.)

Welcome to CFC Moose!

I've never understood why the Lizardmen are traditionally painted blue? It doesnt make sense to me, really... But kudos on breaking with tradition :D

Feel free to post any pictures :)

AFAIK Lizardmen are painted blue, because it is the only color that doesn't have one of the spawnings associated with it.

I would have painted them "Mardi Gras" colors. But anyway, you got some cool armies. I Heart The Eldar. I have maybe 1500pts of the high elves. I haven't counted after the points change. Everything in the Cores went down (Which is 70% of my army right now)/

I have bretonian et lizardmen

Hey, I like them Lords of Horses.

i KILL DWALFS THAT MY DAD PLAYS (my dad:cry: ) i got lots of lady wizards:queen: :love: :king:

I havent read any of this
what do you colect

I play Orks in 40K and Orcs and Gobbos in Fantasy, but im much more into 40K

I collect "The Imperium" in all its broadness, although I lean more towards Blood+Dark Angels.

I collect WH-fantasy and WH40k -books. Not any miniatures. :(

High Elves.

-'nuff said

My tech marine:

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/90080217

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/90080218

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/90080219

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/90080220

Links are easier on the forum ;)

Ok, thats a dwarf on a treaded trolley :)

Still looks cool tho :D

Is that an Epic-sized tank of some description used for the treads?

It does look like an epic-scale leman russ chassis, now that you mention it...

The mini is Burlok Damieson (spelling?) a Dwarf Special Character; he's an engineer who lost his hand and replaced it with what is in fact a steam-powered powerfist.

The "tank" is a Forgeworld mini for w40k, the Cyclops demolition Vehicle:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/hedgehog.htm

:goodjob: Nice Techmarine. :goodjob:

I wish I had a digital camera so i could post some pictures of my army.. :(

Here is my current painting project: the Biker Nob. He is one of my favourite characters now, along with Cap'n Jakk and Lukky Pegz. I havent given him a name yet...

Anyway, some pics:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/BikerNobFront.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/BikerNob45.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/BikerNobBackRight.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/BikerNobLeftSide.png

Some questions:
* should the bullet casings along the wings be red as they are at the moment, or should they be gold or brass coloured. Personally i would probably prefer gold, but i would like some other opinions.
*i would like to have some more clan colours on the bike (black, yellow and white) and i was thinking the front struts might be a good place

@ aaglo: I've begun painting the tonka trukk too, so i'll have some pics up of that once it has come along a bit more

That looks seriously cool :thumbsup:
A proper name would be "lobsta-nob" or "Edwurd Zizzorhundz"

Shell-casings should be either brass or dark metal gray :)

You could put those clan colours in the front struts OR to the handlebar-orkhead. But of course, it's all up to you :)

I thought of making the handbar horn tips white and yellow (one white, one yellow) and the "grips" black.

I might put some small simple black/yellow/white stripes on the top of the shoota body.

And Edwurd Zizzorhundz! Genius! :D

For the casing, may I suggest a darker, rustier looking red? It would look more like... ork metal (a fancier term for "junk" ;))

So maybe a maroon or just a brown-red mix? I might do the other end of the bullet gold then, so the tip is metal, casing maroon and the end gold :)

Or just that red with a chestnut ink wash :D

what would bolt-gun metal and scab red, with some brown do? It would probably give you a metallic reddish... I work with green, so don't be mean.

I spend most of my time working with green! WAAAGH! :D

Battled today against the Black Templars in a 2000 point game. he has recently bought a landraider terminus (i think thats the name, the new one with all those lascannons), so i am somewhat lucky to have few vehicles. my zzap guns were hit early on tho and didnt get to kill anything

once again it took me too long to get into close combat, and once there i was up against an emperor's champion, a chaplain in terminator armour and helbracht (sp?), the high marshall of the black templars

it was a fairly uneventful battle in which the highlight for me was my empty trukk surviving 4 glancing blows and 6 penetrating hits to come out shaken and stunned 6 times, immoblised 3 and armament destroyed once

cap'n jakk managed to miss a landspeeder with his tankbusta bombz and was promptly gunned down as a result. edwurd zizzorhund and his bikerz charged the emperors champ and managed to inflict one wound, only to be charged simultaneously by assault terminators with thunderhammers and shields a veterans squad. bye bye edwurd

all in all, a reasonable performance once i got into combat, but i really need to find a way of limiting my losses during the footslog across the battlefield. bolters just rip through my boyz...

hopefully the new codex has something to help me with this :D

Well, in next months White Dwarf they'll be telling you the changes of the new codex.

I wonder what the business of painboy :)

Well, I don't know if the Orks have artillary, but you could bombard no-man's-land. That would make some craters and give you a "in cover" bonus.

Orks have lobbas, kannons and zzap gunz as their artillery. zzap guns are powerful anti-tank weapons, lobbas are basically mortars, and kannons are cannons (obviously :p)

The only problem with that is we dont have any craters. I have a plan to make some tho :)

Someone produced this motivation poster at funny pics :)
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1668/1198091580734wt3.jpg

:lol: That's great

Here are some more pics of Edwurd Zizzorhund, the Biker Nob. I've added some clan colouring to the front, and have black, yellow and white stripes on the top of each of the big shoota body
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/LargeOrkBikerFront.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/OrkBikeraFront_.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/OrkBikerBackRight.png
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/OrkBikerBackLeft.png

He is simply amazing... Also, when I was snooping around on the GW website I found this: http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/crater/1/

Well, now my mates have bought those craters :)

Had a big battle the other day: Orks, Eldar and Chaos vs Imperial Guard and Witch Hunters.

Probably the best highlights for me were:
* the zzap guns destroying two tanks
* my grots surviving two rounds of shooting from a forge world sabre platform and a squad of stormtroopers, before shooting three of the stormtroopers dead and in the assault killing two more!
* my trukk managing a glancing blow on the baneblade by ramming it from behind

Orks/eldar/chaos won the game, but it got very close a few times. I had almost half of two mobs destroyed in the first turn, and only the mek's kustom force field protected the others

Has anyone tried/fought against the new ork codex? Just finished reading it and... omg...

What's the omg about it (no, I've not read it).

New codez gets released here in January 12th, along with the new minitures. from what i have read on the net, in the new codex stormboyz are awesome, so i picked some up today :)

For fantasy I have the following armies painted, 2500 points or more:

Empire #1 (which I sold)
Undead Empire: Von Carstein Vampire Counts army
Orcs and Goblins
Empire #2
Undead Chaos: Strigori Vampire Counts Army
Dwarfs
Brettonians (Swiss theme)
Lizardmen
Chaos Mortals - Nurgle

I am currently working on Tomb Kings, and probably Dogs of War. I'll likely sell my Skaven stuff. I also have another unpainted Chaos Mortals army, most likely Slaanesh.

Only been a couple years too, with about half a year not near a painting table.

What's the omg about it (no, I've not read it).

They are a lot better now... faster (fleet-of-foot for the whole infantry in 1 turn), hit harder...

yeah, from what i have read the Power of the Waaagh! special rule has changed so for one turn, all the ork infantry get a fleet of foot, giving them a 7"-12" movement then assault

apparently, they lose the choppa's "keep the armour save to 4+ at a max" ability and zzap gunz are no longer an automatic hit

EDIT: oh, and (apparently) the mob rule has changed to allow the number of orks in a mob be used for leadership rather than the Nob's (or whatever) leadership. so if you have 12 or more orks in a mob, they are basically Fearless :)

That's quite awesome rule. It courages large mobs then.

That and the fact you can only have one heavy weapon per ten orks

meaning that you must have mobs of thirty to field the maximum 3 big shootas or rokkits.

which means i only need to add four more boyz to each of my main slugga boy mobs, 18 more to the shoota boyz and ten to the 'ard boyz (which apparently are an upgrade of regular boyz, so they might not be an elite choice anymore :) More stormboyz for me!)

leadership. so if you have 12 or more orks in a mob, they are basically Fearless :)

10, only need 10 :)

So, yeah, mobs on foot? Make then 15+ and you're happy!

i'm gonna fill out my mobs with the full 30 models, since they have a bad habit of dying from just about anything (6+ save isnt much)

plus, each model that survives will add an extra 4 attacks on the charge to my more-likely-than-not-i-will-slaughter-all-these-guardsmen-then-look-for-something-else-to-kill-oh-what-is-that?-more-guardsmen-ay?-Waaagh! number of attack dice :)

more-likely-than-not-i-will-slaughter-all-these-guardsmen-then-look-for-something-else-to-kill-oh-what-is-that?-more-guardsmen-ay?-Waaagh!

That would be a cool mob name. A bit long-ish, but cool anyhow.

Please exist a scenario named Warhammer 40.000 for Civ3/Conquest and if yes who can i find it for download.-
Thanks in advance.
Innichen

There are no scenarios, but we are working on a total conversion mod.

Check out this music video by finnish band CMX - more than just a bit warhammer 40.000'ish I'd say... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGCsh_bnhuQ

Wow. That's some awesome stuff. I could rip some music from some other metal bands if you want to throw them in :D I have quite the collection :mischief:

Dang, I can`t install Flash for some reason on my new PC, can`t check out Youtube stuff.

In 5 days I plan to re-install Windows, its still a test run.

I've got the Ork Codex

Almost all the units get Furious Charge, and any mobs of 11 or more Boyz are Fearless due to their Mob rule, and Skarboyz have basically been replaced by mobs of Nobs or Meganobs (Nobs in Mega Armour)

Painbosses are cool as they confer the Feel No Pain rule on the Nob or Flash Gitz mob they are with (Feel No Pain allows each wound suffered to be ignored on a D6 roll of 4+)

Grots are now BS 3, so the Big Gunz are BS 3 and Killa Kanz are now controlled by Grots, so they have BS 3 too, but only WS 2

so, what does that mean to your boyz?

And how's that, now the ork guns might do more than just noise??!?!1

EDIT:
here's a few more motivational posters suited for this mod :) (these also are not by me)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/necronlordi/motivator966001.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/necronlordi/motivator7587850.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/necronlordi/motivator7331511.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/necronlordi/motivator8924894.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/necronlordi/motivator5795821.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g55/necronlordi/motivator4150974.jpg

Add these to the poster mania :goodjob:

http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/posters

:lol: Great stuff guys! Love the scratch build one :D

@jlvfr, is that your gallery (I think it is, since you've posted your previews there). So that means you name is Joao Luis... and you're from ... Portugal?

BTW, are all those pics from your models (like the funny ones), or have you just seen them around?

@jlvfr, is that your gallery (I think it is, since you've posted your previews there). So that means you name is Joao Luis... and you're from ... Portugal?

yes and yeeees... *starts getting into cover*


BTW, are all those pics from your models (like the funny ones), or have you just seen them around?

The "fun models" pages are not mine. Some are from other local players, others are some I saw in GTs or found on the net...

Hey, I`ve called him Joao before, haven`t you noticed? :)

About that scratch-built tank. Apparently according to the person who made it, it's a "lightweight tank destroyer" :lol:

Maybe its made of cardboard? Cos that is the ONLY way it would be classified as lightweight. Unless of course the he meant "lightweight tank" destroyer, as in the destroyer of lightweight tanks... but i digress

Those posters are great, and so are the pics from the 2007 UK GT. especially those of the "colonial" imperial guard, wow

And that hello kitty dread always unnerves me :eek:

But what does it mean for my boyz?

One of the bad things is that a lot of my Nobs have been armed with special weapons, mostly big shootas and kombi-weapons, but now only nobs in a mob of their own can take these weapons, so im gonna have to get new nobs for most of the mobs, and just make a mob of nobs, with a painboss

on the charge, thanks to the furious charge rule, i strike at the same time as imperial guard troops, and at S4 (Boyz) S5 (Nobs and Oddboyz) or S6 (Warboss). Plus, i need almost two thirds of my mobs destroyed before they lose their fearless rule

Ooh, and having mobs in trukks does not make them a fast attack choice, it is a troops choice with a dedicated transport vehicle :) Which means i dont have to choose between the two trukks, the warbikes, the buggy and now the stormboyz (which are fast attack now rather than elites) :)

About that scratch-built tank. Apparently according to the person who made it, it's a "lightweight tank destroyer" :lol:

"Lightweight" as in "I can carry it in one hand"?...

Or "Lightweight" as in "lighter than a titan"?...:goodjob:

especially those of the "colonial" imperial guard, wow

They are a discontinued branch of the IG who were actually sold a while back, I believe.

They are a discontinued branch of the IG who were actually sold a while back, I believe.

The foot models yes. The rest (heavy weapons, cavalry, etc) were conversions...

So, I played some Dawn of War demos, going to get the game(s) soon. The only thing that could make that game better is if it was Turn Based. Like, you know Warhammer 40,000 .. and Civ ;)

I actually dreamt of it last night! A digital version of 40k (and WHFB).. Same rules as the real deal, except you can play it vs the computer, and in LAN and on-line multiplayer sessions. It would also feature an Army Painter, of course :D

The modding community would provide mods with homegrown rules and digital bitz for conversions and customizing your army, maps, scenarios, campaigns and stuff like that.

.. Whats your opinion on that?

Something like that would be great fun! I'm sure aaglo would love making all sorts of crazy contraptions :D

Plus it would be MUUUUUCH cheaper :)

Not sure if i mentioned this before, but i got some new boyz to fill out the slugga mobs, and wow! There are a lot of bitz: two choppas, a stikkbomb, a tankbusta bomb, and an arm holding each bomb, plenty of crosshairs for shootas and such, a couple of ammo belts, pockets and pouches

but the best thing is that you get parts to make a nob! and they havent even advertised that. you actually get 10 boyz PLUS a nob, so its pretty good value. and you get a powerklaw for 'im too :D

at the moment i am modelling another kommandoz unit: Da Speshul Ops Sqwad. I'm planning to use the Cap'n Jakk as Snikkrot, so the Piratz will be held in reserve, coming on from any table edge when they are available! I'm gonna try to take out the Baneblade from behind...maybe ;)

The new Sqwad is gonna look pretty Blood Axey, with some IG equipment like canteens and pouches and stuff, one of them is gonna be a comm guy with an IG auspex (sp?), they'll have those earpieces and microphonesand, and the sluggas are gonna be fixed with silencers. Very un-orky, i know, but it'll look pretty cool, i reckon :)

Oh, and berets :)

Cool! Yeah, they are going nuts with the amount of bitz included in boxes. I like that :)

Maybe the bolters are fitted with... Loudeners? :mischief:

Hehe, big horns attached to the ends to magnify the sound? Very Orky, but not much use for sneakin' up on da weedy 'umies

:lol: Yeah, but you can sneak up on them and then make noise!

I'm wondering whether i should give the comm-ork a phone, like the WWII comm guys and their big walkie talkie things?

I had already made one beret wearing Kommando, but he had been hanging out with Cap'n Jakk, so he will join the Speshul Ops Sqwad now that i have added some sleeves and a mike.

that means i have two fully built kommandos and three more that are just the body, arms and heads, two of them holding stikkbombz. i'll probably put up some photos tomorrow.

Awesome, I can't wait! :D

And yeah, a walkie talkie would be awesome!

Dem new Orkses sprues seem cool. Makes me wanna collect Da Orks!

Can't wait to see dem photos. Walkie-talkies are cool too.;)

Here are some pics. They are not based yet, but are otherwise ready for painting as far as i can see. Some of the pics are a bit blurry, but you can still see it fairly well. At least i can :D
I forgot to add in the beret wearing Kommando i made for Cap'n Jakk's boyz, but this is the four new Speshul Ops Sqwad. The metal Stikkbombs are from the Stormboyz sprue, the ropes are trimmed down top-knots taken from one of the kinds of ork heads, the silencers are segments of the ink cylinder from inside a pen and the berets and sleeves are greenstuffed, and some of the boyz have IG stuff on them too.

Oh, and the mikes are small pieces of wire from inside the cable of an old mouse (yes, i loot from just about anywhere :D) with a tiny bit of greenstuff on the end of it.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOpsSqwad.png
He was the first one of these i made. He actually looks like he might be armed with an SMG, because of the slugga's clip, but it works pretty well either way, i reckon. He has IG equipment on his back.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps2Front.png http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps2Back.png
This guy also looks like he has an SMG. You can see some IG equipment on his back as well. This guy was the reason why i added the sleeves, because i was having trouble repositioning his gun arm, so i decided to over up the greenstuff join with a greenstuff sleeve, and decided it looked pretty cool and added them to the others :D
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps1Front.png http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps1Back.png
The Stikkbom arm for this was taken from the much improved boyz sprue. As i wanted to model all the wargear on these guys, you can see his holstered slugga on his left hip. that is the grip of a already-half-destroyed shoota glued to an old blob of greenstuff that i trimmed down.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps3Front.png http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps3Back.png
The stikkbomb from this guy was made by gluing the barrel of a shoota on to one of the axe holding arms with the axe head removed. Keeping with the wargear thing, his choppa is strapped to his back, along with some IG stuff.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps4Front.png http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/52574/SpeshulOps4Back.png

Wow.. some great orksez you has there! Space Sneaky Gitz!

I like those berets and big gun muzzles :D ... what is that, plastic tubing?

Yeah, its the ink cylinder from inside a pen

What about the colours? I was thinking either a jungle camouflage, with brown a green fatigues and maybe some camo face paint, or black sleeves and straps with several shades of grey.

personally i probably like the jungle camo more, and they will have red berets

Jungle camo? Like darker & lighter shades of green... that sounds good. And the weapon "frames" (the part of the weapon where the barrel & handle are attached) are made of... WOOD! :p ...nah, chocolate brown on the guns could look cool.

I was thinking black for the guns, like modern weapons

Ok, I just thought of similar colour as the missile launcher on this pic:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/ml1p3store.jpg

I'm planning to arm the mob with two big shootas, so i might do something like that on them. and the orky marks on the sluggas might get a camo touch up too

Hmm, wonder why I didn't post in this thread the last time I visited it. Anyway when I was younger (~6-8 years ago) I used to collect Lizardmen for fantasy but the interest died.

A while back I managed to get sucked in by GW but this time it was in the 40K universe and I started to collect Tyranids, unfortunately my hivefleet hasn't grown that fast. But I'll try to get something done so I have something to show, nidz don't look good by themselves unless it's a carni or a hive tyrant. ;)

<snip> The only thing that could make that game better is if it was Turn Based. <snip> And with nidz. :)

I just love Carnifexes :love:

Well, I Imagine the Nidz will come in a yet another expansion..

I love the Computer idea...

Instead of an army painter like in the DoW series, a model or unit painter.

-You have the army builder in which you can set all default/random, or you can use the sprues and make it yourself.

-You have your basic unit painter, set all the colors you want, la la la... But then you can make the veteran/commander of the unit really special, then you have their banner which you can customize

-All attacks and deaths and others will be animated in game.

-For the uber awesome guys: A Konversion klinic built outside the game, which will allow you to convert things (if its in a sprue, you can do it). Very advanced stuff to, like the berets. It will also give you a Wall/building editor(I'll elaborate later)

-Also a battlefield editor in which you can design any battlefield including cities. You can create the design of your capital which will be used in campaign.


Hows that?

Me and my friends also came up with a "arcade scnario" if you will.
You have a 3x5 or 2x4 board... On your side of the board there is a generic relic which you have to protect. You get fortified walls and outer defenses.

The defenders get 1000pts of troops(core,special,rare... no limit)to spread between them... Then you also get your general and be reasonable(what not to do... High Elf Prince w/ Star Dragon and Gem of Hoeth(makes him lvl 1 mage) and reaver bow(3 shots at S5) because there is no max points on your general(general does not cost towards your 1000 starting points)

Then you get a series of waves, and with each consectutive wave the next gets another 100 pts of troops to choose from.

Every fifth round you receive more forces. (1/4 the points of all the guys that your troops killed or another 750pts. you choose. you can save points.) You can buy magic stuff for your general


we are still working out the kinks...

Actually, the berets are not that hard, its just a small blob of greenstuff, then add a small seam line around the base, then just nudge it over to the side and smooth off any fingerprints :)

Thats sounds like an interesting concept. I'm presuming by "round" you mean after each player has a turn, right? So round 1 is complete when each player has their first turn?

If you wanted to try to keep a lid on the number of points spent on the general without adding an actual restriction, you could make the first 100 points of wargear free then everything over that counts towards the total. of course that points amount can vary, depending on what you think is a good amount.

Well, its impossible to make everything even. High Elf Prince vs. Goblin Warlord... not equal in skill or points.

By rounds, I mean every enemy wave... kind of like space invaders.

.. do we know anyone who could make that game for us? :mischief:

Heh, GW prices have really gone insane.. check out this baby:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110207166&orignav=13

What the hell... I though it was bad before.

-Which game did you mean: the computer, or the scenario?

:wow: I know that metal models cost a lot more than plastics (and are a lot harder to work with) but that is just insane :D

I'm having a big battle today, the usual good vs. evil, IG/WH vs Orks/Eldar/CSM

Which reminds me, i have to skedaddle, im late :p

The computer game DB, the computer one.

Good luck Dave! Have lotsa funz.

10.000 pounds? :lol:

I am glad i am not a GW collector.

Looking at some other figures, it seems that a small army would cost upwards of 100 pounds.. Are the models already painted?

Nope... its the best part. Other than annihilating your foes.
Your army looks however you want it.

I hate Baneblade!

I now have two full mobs of 30 boyz, and in two rounds of shooting baneblade killed 52 of them! Plus, all my bikes got killed before they made combat, although they did kill a whole bunch with shooting, and only my stormboy nob survived to make combat

Cap'n Jakk survived an assassination attempt by a vindicare assassin. he only needed to roll a 2 to hit and got a one :D. All of the Kommandos were killed by shooting except for Jakk, who died after assaulting two Sentinels.

The Trukkboyz did their jobs tho, and i got to roll massive amounts of dice! The guy on my team used chaos and eldar, and he now has a defiler, that wrecked the other flank. my tankbustas followed it, destroying the inferno cannon on the hellhound.

The Baneblade was destroyed in a Apocolyptic Explosion that killed anything on a roll of 2+ within 11" of the baneblade, which was a lot of stuff. The Imperial scum gave up after that as my grots charged into combat, killing a commissar, an officer and a stormtrooper, who had just killed my warboss and trukkboy nob with power weapons

From that game, i realise i need more of everything! Im planning on getting the battleforce box set which will give me 20 more boyz (plus two nobs), thre bikes and another trukk, which should help me get to his gun line a lot faster.

also, i'm planning on using Cap'n Jakk as Snikrot, so he can enter play from reserves from any table edge, shoot and assault in the turn he arrives, plus he gets to re-roll failed To-Hit rolls, and some other things i cant remember at the moment

I might get some lootas in the future for heavy fire support, some more burnas and tankbustas, maybe a nob mob, a new warboss, a painboy...

Well all the nice pics made me want to buy some models :)
Luckily there is a GW shop in the city, and i will visit it tomorrow. I will probably get eight imperial knights, from the wh fantasy series, and also some sprays to paint them with :)

Have fun Varwnos! I still look at my box of Space Marines from time to time, but I lack willpower.

Woot... my GW shop brought in some of the new High Elves models.

They got the "old" dragons (which I want more than anything), and the plastic Chariots, Mages, and Nobles

I still dont know how they managed to braid the fur on the lions ;)

Elves can do anything, the blighters.

Hey, Var., maybe you can make your Imperial Knights to look slightly Byzantine?

That'd be sweet. but if varwnos' painting ability is anything like his graphics abilities, then they'll look sweet either way. no pressure, var ;)

After i get the battleforce, i think my next big purchase will be a leman russ squadron, so i can loot dem wagons and get some ordinance on the table in the form of a boomgun.

I'll probably make'm "Da Red Army Armoured Wagon Krumpany" and have the commanders and grots look like soviet winter troops, with furry hats and whatnot. might even make "russian" mobs to go with 'em, if i decide to use them as transports as well (the boomgun takes away the transport capability, but i can easily make a boomgun/'ard case that can be taken off)

maybe :D

Local Vostroyan Orks, eh?

I went to the shop. Well it was a bit of a dissapointment since it is really very small... From outside one can see some wh40k imperium armies, painted, soldiers marching next to some tanks. I did not go inside though; might do it today. I hope they have the models and not that they just place orders themselves for them. The funny thing is that i actually found the store from the games workshop site, so i expected something a bit more organised, but what can you do. I may end up ordering the stuff anyway :)

I don`t know how things are in Greece but in Croatia they figured out its much cheaper (and faster) to order GW stuff from these Maelstrom guys than from GW itself or from our local Independant Stockist. So check out this website:

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?sou=worg


Also, did you go to Kaissa Thessalonikis or in Underworld? Cos, you have two shops holding GW items in your city, you know? ;)

Hm, where did you read about them? I know that they exist (the Kaissa one that is), but do not have the adresses. Kaissa AFAIK is more of a general fantasy shop. The one i found is only about WH, but i would rather go elsewhere if i can avoid it (not even an Ork would want to live in that place!) :D

Kaissa`s phone number is 257 397. The other one is Underworld, phone number 240 193, says so in the White Dwarf magazine.

Call them up for their adresses ;)

I went to Kaissa. Why is it that all fantasy shops have employes that look like murderers? :lol:

Anyway, in a few hours (in the morning that is) i will return to the ork-shop since i saw that they have a box of an empire army. I hope they also have a smaller one with just 8 knights since i am not sure yet if i will become very involved in this hobby.

They look like that in our shops too :lol:

Now, my dear fellow (been watching Monty Python sketches on Youtube agian), why did you choose that particular unit? :)

Now, my dear fellow (been watching Monty Python sketches on Youtube agian), why did you choose that particular unit? :)

I like knights. They are more impressive than unmounted troops, from their high position on top of the horse they survey the battlefield and prepare for a swift attack.
Furthermore in greek the knight has a special symbolic significance due to the fact that one of the greek terms for horse is "alogo", which at the same time means 'irrational' as well. So in a literary sense the knight is riding irrationality, controlling it from his world of logic and power. :)

OK, but why the Imperials? Bretonnia has loads of knights, they`re the Knight Civ Army.

Also, do you plan to do any particular order of knights or the Reiksguard Knights?

I do not know what the Reiksquard is, and as to what it is different from the other orders. If the difference is only in painting, i am thinking that i will not be very interested in colouring the miniatures according to a canon.
Besides, i haven't built/painted miniatures since i was in highschool, so the first one will be an experiment :)

Do you have any url with tips about painting them?

As for Brettonia, i know nothing of them either. I will be lucky if the shop even has an imperial set, let alone more obscure ones :D

Oh and BTW Stormrage, do you have any links to WH fantasy buildings? Since i may convert my latest city set to one of them ;)

Have a look through the painting sections at various GW sites, like the UK (http://uk.games-workshop.com/warhammer/) one. they have a few links there i think, at least one on armour and another on shields and banners

Yeah, the GW websites are the best source for Wh stuff. Try different GW sites from different countries, cos sometimes they have different articles. So you can do something different.

Reiksgurd Knights are sort of the "official" knights. The Emperor can command other chapters like the Knights of the Blazing sun or Knights Panther, but the Reiksguard are his favorites. Sort of. The difference is mostly in coloring, but people convert them to be more unique.

Of course the Knights of the White Wolf are something else. A bunch of bearded nutcases wearing wolf pelts and waving huge warhammers, not your every day knights. They have unique minis.

Imperial Knights are more Renessaince and grim, while Bretonnia`s are Medieval and colourfull, like in those old movies, Ivanhoe etc.

I like grim :)

As for Brettonia, i know nothing of them either. I will be lucky if the shop even has an imperial set, let alone more obscure ones :D


For Bretonnia, think King Arthur and french XV century cavalry. They also have knights mounted on griffons, lady sorceress...

Bretonnian Grail Knights:
http://www.crazy-achmed.com/ca/images/82-12.jpg

Knights of the White Wolf:
http://ca.games-workshop.com/news/cn/articles/Soc_ca/colin/army/ww_Knights_b.jpg

They look too weird/shiny :)

I will probably give my knights an ultra black armor.

The problem about units like the "wolfs" is that they are (modeling wise) "fixed": ie, they have specific colours, uniform, flags, etc. Not much room to change colours/models...

I just finished my first model..
Since the store did not have a set of knights, i had to buy five pistoliers instead. The first unit was always going to be an experiment, however i think that it was not the best option to first glue it together and then start painting it. Anyway, chances are it will be ruined, but i will give it a try :)

Good luck mate! I think its best to partially assemble it as the tiny bitz can get difficult to hold while painting.

Here are some knightly orders, maybe you can find something you like:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/empire/knights-chapters/2/

Yea... I don't like painting with a set palete. I can never get as good as the pros. And to answer the "braiding" question, when would-be White Lions go hunting for the legendary white lions... they often kill teh mommys(south park?) they dont enjoy slaying defenseless and harmless creatures. They take these cubs and raise them not to eat the shiny elves, and eat anything else.

I come up with my own orders and factions. Adds a personal touch.

The Reiksguard are the Emporers personal bodyguard.

I thought the Greatswords were the Emperor`s bodyguard?

Nevermind, you are right, they just called the Greatswords the Emperor`s bodyguard in that big battle-report Empire vs Beastmen in WD.

I managed to ruin the first figure (i knew this was going to happen though).
The problem with painting is that Control+Z does not work.

Use washing up stiff like Simple Green or Flash o wash the paint off the models if you want to repaint them :D

But first you need to show us them!

When i buy a netcam, since my old one is horrible ;)

I heard there is no easy way to remove the paint. all the articles I`ve read are painstaking processes..

Yep teh Reiksguard are the Emps boyz... Think about it.
Reik's + Guard.

And yes... When I make a mistake I do two things: the best thing you can do it spread it out to make the paint thinner. Then I hope that the redone coat doesn't look choppy.

If you want to start over on a smooth surface, you can take the unsharpened end of your hooby/exato knife and lightly(and I mean very, very lightly) scrape away the dried painted. It works best if you scrape away from you and hold the knife at anywhere from 45 degrees to 10 degrees away from you.

If you apply the knife harder, this is also useful to take of them pesky mold lines.

My second model got a lot better. I made the mistake of spraying again the old one with black, in an attempt to go over the brush paint, but this made it look horrible. Anyway, i will have to buy two more sprays since the brush is only to be used with smaller details. :)

Buy a webcam while you`re at it :mischief:

I think that i will use a spray even for human flesh. Brushes are hard to work with imo. The job is half-decent, but i would prefer it if it looked better :)

I have a question: Does citadel produce sprays for all of its colours, or just a few?
I am asking because practice has shown me that i could use at least a couple more sprays, for better results. I am interested particularly in a blood red and a bronze.

I think there is a blood red, but I'm sure there is no bronze.

Varw, check out the GW online shop, you`ll see their full range of paints, sprays and tools. You might wanna ask at some Greek Warhammer forum for local tips.

Well, you could get some empty paintballs, fill 'em up with your colors, strap on the CO2, and let it rip :D... But I don't think it will turn out the way you wanted. Well, the one or two goblins that survived were green.

I'm not saying this from experence *wink*wink*cough*cough*




Sometimes I wish I didn't have friends...

I only spray black. It took years to learn how to paint them right but it was worth it :)

Thats one of the reasons i like Orks. the skin is easy to paint and make it still look ok*, and basically any mistakes you make can be put down to "they're Orks, they dont care!" :D

* I prime the model with black spray, then basecoat in dark angels green. then i drybrush all over with goblin green, keeping the dark angels green visible in the crevases, then i water down dark angels green and give all the skin a wash to take the edge of the brightness of the goblin green and to make the transition of dark angels to goblin green less sudden.

Thats one of the reasons i like Orks. the skin is easy to paint and make it still look ok*, and basically any mistakes you make can be put down to "they're Orks, they dont care!" :D



I too had many problems painting skin. My poor IG troops usually looked like they had taken a flamer blats to the face... :blush:
I'm not a very good painter, so I tend to go with simple, easy-to-paint schemes...


Finnally finished my last tracked Dread!
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/92303060
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/92303062
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/92303063
http://www.pbase.com/hammerbolt/image/92303064

Well my third figure was decently painted, but i learned another lesson, which was never to glue the parts multiple times. I ended up with a lot of dried up glue & paint which made the hands stick out in an ugly way.
However i am happy with the learning curve, only the first figure was utterly ruined, and now i think that the fourth one will actually look good :)

Also, what is the difference between basecoating and drypainting? And why do you then water down the paint?

Basecoating means that you paint the entire figure black (or white if you use bright colors, but since you prefer grim, you should use black), so that it adds shadows in the recesses.

Drybrushing is a method when you whipe almost all of the paint of the brush (I dont know if it works well with non-acryl paints) and then paint the model, it will leave the deeper parts darker and the ones that stand out will be lighter.

Like using a metalic color on a chainmail figure. You paint it black, and when you drybrush with Boltgun Metal, it will leave the tiny holes black, while the chain will be metalic.

I don`t know much about watering down, I haven`˛t tried that yet.

Basecoating is usually done with the spray so the other acrylic sticks to the model without wearing off. Using thin paint in many layers lets you get a smooth cover- no lumps of paint and stuff. Basecoating is neeved for this however as the thin layers with wear off if not basecoated.

Drybrushing is, as was said, wiping off most of the paint and quicking rubbing the bristles back and forth over the area required to paint. For example, paint a gun Tin Bitz (a dark brown metallic colour) and drybrushing it Gunbolt Metal makes the gun look much more reaslistic as it's grimy and dark in the recesses and lighter and more silvered on the upper layers. It can be used for fur too, as i've done with one of my units. I undercoated in Scorched brown, drybrushed Vermin Brown, and inked Chestnut Ink. It gives it a reddish brown fur look :)

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lejeT6hx2Vs&feature=related

Surprised he can actually float! :D

I should've explained about drybrushing, sorry :)

For my guns i basecoat in boltgun metal then very lightly drybrush scorched brown over it. i might give them a very watery black wash as well, see how that looks

That's cool :)
But so's this :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cpmparuwi4

If I want to highlight I ussually water-down the paint a tad bit.
I spread out the paint a tiny bit more than I want to highlight... let it dry.
Then I go over and highlight what I wanted... It gives a step up to the next color.

This looks really cool if you want a laquered armor look.

Is there a "gloss?" I really want some for my gems... (rubies to be exact)

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In other news... I got the Woodies and Darkies army books.
THEY ARE DISORGANIZED. At least compared to the High Elves. Weapons and armor are scattered...

It will probably make more sense if I can get some alone time with them.

Thats because the HE army book is done in the new fashion, like they did with the DA, CSM and Ork codices (and possibly The Empire one).

But are there "gloss" paints?

I know the first black spray i bought had a sheen to it: so a couple of my orks are wearing tight shiny leather pants :sad:

I guess you could buy some "wet effect: that is usually used to make water for terrain and stuff, or maybe a thin layer of PVC glue. a thick layer goes white, so i dont know if a thin layer would stay clear or not tho...

But are there "gloss" paints?
Just use gloss varnish if it's just a part you want glossy. Personally I "stole" gloss spray varnish at work, still have 5 cans left. But I prefer matte varnish.

Oh, hi guys. :)

I don't think I'm back for long, I still haven't felt the need to mod civ yet. I'm busy with my toy soldiers. Here are some of them:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/movement-tray.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/chariot3.jpg

As usual you can follow my progress in this thread (http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index.php?showtopic=8855). I have about 1300 points painted now.

Happy to see you back Mrtn :)

And you painted them wonderfully. Got any tips for someone starting to paint now?

Happy to see you back Mrtn :)

And you painted them wonderfully. Got any tips for someone starting to paint now?Oh, I've got lots of tips. ;)

0 Clean your mini! Before you even start painting you should clean your mini. First in the sense that you scrape off all the mould lines, and secondly you should wash it with soap to get rid of release agents and such from the manufacturing.

1 Prime you mini! This is usually seen as another word for undercoat. The primer gives a better structure to the mini, so that all the other paints stick to the mini, and don't rub off as soon as you look at it. Good primer is the reason I've had a b*tch of a time stripping a bunch of chaos knights recently.

I prefer black undercoat, this way, if you miss a tiny spot, it won't shine out, as it will if you use white. White however is better if you're painting light models, like high elves. It's also useful if your using a lot of washes, but black is best for the newbie trying to paint "cool, gritty" minis.

2 Use the correct brush! I don't know why you'd use different coloured sprays on a mini, I'd never use more than one, and that just the base colour. Hand paint everything else. There are different sizes of brushes, and they are good for different things. I use a size 2 brush for almost all my painting, though I also use a size 2 square brush for drybrushing and a bigger one for bases and stuff.

3 Take care of your brush! Most importantly, don't dip it too far in the paint pot. If you get paint up in the metal holder (can't remember the name atm) this can quickly ruin a brush, just dip about a third in the paint, and "refill" often.

4 Try to stay between the lines! In other words, don't paint half his face the same colour as the hair... And be careful. If you are you can make surprisingly cool stuff, my friend's 7 year old son painted a saurus warrior the other week, and that looks better than what I've seen from 12 or 15 year olds.

5 Highlights and shadows! Minis are very small, so when you paint them you should exaggerate the colour differences. As a newbie you should try to use two colours per "part" of a model. For example you can paint a piece of fur dark brown, and then drybrush it with a lighter brown. This makes the furry area much more visible than if you painted it just one colour.

6 Dry brushing! Stormrage talked about this, but anyway...
Take a brush, not your best one. As noted, I use a square one. dip it in some paint, and then brush it off on a newspaper or similar, until it seems almost dry. Now, if you gently drag it over your mini it will leave paint at the stuff sticking out, but not in the recesses. The fur on the bestigor in the chariot up there, as well as the chariot itself, has been dry brushed.


Hope this helps. :)

BTW, I've got loads of stuff in the link I posted, bestigors, old OOP beastmen, warhounds, centigors and donkeys... if anyone is interested.

It does, ty :D

Where could I get the Gloss varnish? Just run over to Wal-mart or do I need to ask around at the Hobby shops.

Hey mrtn! Lovely work with those beasts, and your asses look great! Great work with the greenstuff CW, i wish i could do that with my orks but it would be quite hard, i think...

And are those chaos dwarfs? ;)

Hi there mrtn!

Nice work there, dude. I like the scything blades of the chariot. Those chains could use some "rusting", altough I don't know how well paint stucks on that material - without a primer. Have you thought of drybrushing the chains?

One thing I'd like to add to mrtns post with painting tips. Water down your paints. I usually mix either 50/50 or 2/3 paint and 1/3 water, it depends on what paint I'm working on and how much of the underlying layer I want to show through. It's important to not mix to much water though since the paint gets very runie(is that a word?) and can easily get down in to cracks and the like where you'd want some shadowing.
This has at least helped me improve my painting. That and reading alot of painting guides. :)

On gloss varnish- The odd time that I use it, I just use clear nail varnish.

Hi mates. Thanks. :)

@LMR!: Yes, they're chaos dwarves. I thought I'd let them crew a dogs of war cannon, while pretending to be human (use human stats).

@aaglo: I might try to do something about the chains, but I wanted to finish it for a competition/memorial thingy. How's the bass playing going? I still have "So Alone" in my playlist, would like some more. ;)

@Harald: I thought it would be better to learn to crawl before learning to walk. :)

Any tips on painting human faces? :)

Put some lipstick on women.

Oh, you mean't miniatures... ;) :p

The way I do my elves is basically give a
coat or two of dwarf flesh,
then Drybrush Elf Flesh

Can you post some pictures of those faces, DB? I avoided the sargeant heads when I was painting my Space Marines, I`d really like to see the results of that method. Painting faces has always intimidated me a bit, since I`ve seen some awesome paintjobs and some horrible paintjobs, but not so much... normal paintjobs.

It is very hard for me as well. Btw i managed to ruin all five of my models.
But i think that with practice i will be better.
Next i think that i will buy 8 empire pikemen, and see how they will end up & possibly i will post pics as well ;)

For some odd reason all my guys end up with red (dwarf flesh) noses... So I have to go back and elf flesh 'em up. My guys faces are not that good... but they are adequate.

I'll go and see if my local library has a digi-camera and I'll take some photos.

In recent news... I sold some of my "cruddy" models to another High Elf player(a new one... apparently the "always strike first" rule is very attractie) for a nice price... I've done this for a couple reasons... I want to get those new HE models, and the paint scheme diddn't match my new army... SO... Right now I have exactly: 20 Lothern Seaguard and 20 Spearmen, and more coming on the way.

I find painting miniatures quite interesting already. I hope that soon my skills will evolve to something decent, and i think they will. Hopefully the imperial pikemen will (at least some of them) not look that bad :D

Btw as a novelist i have written short stories about miniatures (they were part of the plot) and as a child i can remember being impressed by the collection of a friend, but never wanted to try it myself since it seemed like a lot of work when i could just play with my legos :)

You can mix WH and lego :D

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5443567&postcount=47
(the last couple of pics)

My god... long story short... I WON.

Just to get you interested, I was playing a last stand scenario with some friends... right. The Last Stander doesn't win. I did.

1,000 HE and 2,500 Orcos and Goblins. There are two reasons I won.

4 Repeater Bolt Throwers and Animosity.


First to start... I leveled 4 chariots with my bolt throwers on the first turn...
Then I magiked(I barrowed a couple mages) his black orcs to smitherens (They started with twenty, and finished with five) They ran... and so did their flanking goblin units.

Their own Bolties (all 6 of them) managed to decimate my much loved Lothern Seaguard :'(.

My mages went crazy with SoS (sheild of saphery)

The remaining Orcos and Goblins smashed into my line... I'm gonna get me some more of those Swordmasters... They mowed down the Orcs w/ Choppas

After a few turns of Hacking, Chopping, and Dismemberment... followed by some well placed volleys, my Shadow Warriors were in position. They appeared near the goblin artillary batteries, and with some support from mages(SoS and CoAA)(Curse of Arrow Attraction) they silenced them.

Then he resigned...

Can someone tell me how to use "washes"? My sixth figure turned out a lot better than the other ones, but i still am not happy with the way the face looks..

The way i do my washes are to just lather the "wash" over the area. it then gathers in the recesses, so if it is a dark wash, it makes the shadows darker. i'm not sure if this is how others do it, but it works for my ork skin, so it might work for yours.

just clarifying, i have no experience painting anything but orks :)

Cool report, Dragonbird :) - I like it when something unexpected happens.

My first pic will not be very great, but anyway. In a few days i will have a better setting for taking pics, with more light ;)

This is an imperial halberdeer:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/36763/miniature.JPG

Due to the slight focal blur (or is that from the lack of light ;) ), I can't tell much about the paint work on this one, but the metal parts seem to be pretty good. :)

What are you going to do with the base?

Paint it brown and add some of that grass stuff they have.

Here are some more pics of it:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/36763/1model1.PNG

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/36763/1model2.PNG

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/36763/1model3.PNG

Looks very nice, V! :)

I think that after just five ruined miniatures, the sixth one is ok as far as the absolute basics go.
However i know nothing of shading and highlighting. Anyone have a good url with info on that? :)

ps, i will not try to paint the banner untill a lot later. I am thinking of cutting the outline of a byzantine two-headed eagle and using it to spray the form.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/empire/getting-started/5/

Ty monsieur Stormrage :)

Here is a swordsman as well, painted again with only one tone per color. In the future i will try to have shadows and highlights.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/36763/1swordsman.PNG

Your welcome :)

The Swordsman looks very nice :) Reminds me of Cam`s unit.

Looking good Var :thumbsup:

Nice hair! Way to go.

And a nice 'stache - he looks like Tom Selleck :lol:

Well all WH human faces look horrible anyway :p

I think it looks good, too, Varwnos!

Faces:

Dark Flesh -> Dwarf Flesh -> Chestnut Ink wash -> forehead, cheeks, nose and chin in Elf Flesh.

What is an ink wash?

Chestnut Ink is a watery and high-pigment paint you can get. Basically, paint that over the Dwarf Flesh :)

Oh, is it part of the citadel series of paints then? :)

Yeah :) It's really a handy ink to have.

I'm not familiar with inks. would you say the chestnut ink is about the colour of scorched brown or is it darker? because i've been using watery scorched brown for some washes, like on the leather parts of Edwurd Zizzorhund :D

Doesn't the faces become very brown if you use chestnut ink?
The reason I ask is because I use chestnut ink on the exo-skelleton on my nids as the second layer to get darker brownish recesses(sp?).
Basically:
skull white undercoat->bleached bone->chestnut ink->bleached bone-> skull white

I would be very interested in seeing some pics of those Nids :) The colour scheme sounds great, considering most of what i've seen have been the pink and purple combo

Hmm, I can se if I can get up any pics tonight(only home for lunch right now). Although I must say that there aren't really that many pics since the most of my painting on my nids have been for the purpose of getting a nice colour theme (I only have one termagaunt in the newest theme).
But I can probably post some pics of the older versions aswell so you can se what I started from and how they "evolved". :)

EDIT:
Okay here goes:
First theme of my tyranids: Pic (http://i114.imagethrust.com/i/738235/dsc00002.jpg)
Second theme (2-3 models later): Pic01 (http://i119.imagethrust.com/i/738233/dsc00004.jpg) Pic02 (http://i113.imagethrust.com/i/738234/dsc00006.jpg)
And the third and current(8-10 models and alot of paintguide reading later):Pic01 (http://i111.imagethrust.com/i/738231/dsc000521.jpg) Pic02 (http://i110.imagethrust.com/i/738229/dsc000511.jpg)

The third ones carapace is actually dark angels green, it only looks black because of bad lighting.

Wow! Great theme! :D Looks amazing!

The inks do make the recesses very dark but it looks good from a distance, which is what mini's are meant to be looked at :D

:eek:

What paintguides would that be? :)

The last pic looks great :D

Thanks guys and gals(?). :)

:eek:

What paintguides would that be? :)

I used to have them in my bookmarks but then my computer crashed. :(
The only one I can find now is this one (http://thetyranidhive.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=painting&action=display&thread=1157835323&page=1). It's actually a thread created on how to paint GWs Hive Fleet Kraken theme but I'v used basically the same approch. Changed the colours and tried to make it simpler. I'll probably put in more effort on the bigger ones, try some blending for example.

Another one I can remember is one that was writen by a Golden Demon winner(or second place), it was more aimed att actual painting tips. Unfortunately the only ones I remember are basically:
*water down your paint
*continue to push yourself, otherwise you won't improve

Wow, they look great! :)

No gals in this corner of CFC ;)

Thanks for the link!

They are amazing... just plain awesome :)

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In other news, the High Elves prevail... again (will it ever stop?)

k, it was a small 1000pt "ish" battle.

The part that saved my hide was my couragous group of 15 spears w/ a noble. They held for 3 turns of Night Goblin archers (around 50-60) in front(lapping around too) and Night Gobbo Fanatics(which they charged through) and Night Gobbo Spears (about 30 to 40) on the side... When they were relived, there was only 4 left including the noble.

The Gobbos experimented with their bolt throwers, and had 2 kills... (Thats bad) My bolties ussually end up with 2 to 3 dozens kill. It was sad.

A skirmish! Again!
Will I ever have a full point battle?

But anyways... I tryed out my "squishy" swordmasters against "Da' Tuff Black 'Uns"

Well, I lost...:( yes, you may give a shout for the greenies. Anyway armor saves was not the big thing here... It was my incompetence(*gasp*), I didn't do any "hit and runs" like I should have. I walked up and traded blows.

Which was okay with goblins, but not guys who can swing back.

In the end I was outflanked and overwhelmed. But I take pride that in the fact that only two of the Black Orcs limped away. :evil:

Waaagh!! Da boyz iz da best! :D

Picked up the new Ork battleforce box with 20 boyz, a new awesome trukk and 3 bikes and also got a box of lootas/burnas, which i have made into lootas, although they use the regular ork bodies so i can make the burnas too with just a regular boyz box

i now have 150+ ork boyz :D

for those who care, my current list:


HQ
Warboss Pee-Joo w/ Mega Armour, Kombi-Rokkit, Bosspole, Cybork Body, Attack Squig

ELITES
6 Burna Boyz, 1 Mek w/ Slugga and Choppa, 1 Mek w/ Kustom Mega-Blasta
9 Tankbustas (inc. Nob) w/ rokkits
5 Lootas
8 x Cap'n Jakk's Piratz, inc. Cap'n Jakk w/ Powerklaw, 'Eavy Armour, Bosspole; 2x Big Shootas
10x Speshul Ops, inc. nob w/ Powerklaw, 'eavy armour, bosspole

TROOPS
30x Slugga boyz, inc. Nob w/ Powerklaw, 'eavy armour, bosspole; 3x Big Shootas
30x Slugga boyz, inc. Nob w/ Powerklaw, 'eavy armour, bosspole; 3x Big Shootas
20x 'Ard Boyz, inc. Nob w/ Big Choppa, Bosspole
30x Shoota boyz, inc. Nob; 3x Big Shootas
20x Oomie Slavez, inc. 2x Runtherds, 1 w/Grot Prod
11x Trukkaz, inc. Nob w/ Powerklaw, 'eavy armour, bosspole; 1x Big shoota (the warboss rolls with these guys, hence the 11 boyz); trukk w/ big shoota, red paint job, grot riggers, armour plates
12x Trukkaz, inc. Nob w/ Powerklaw, 'eavy armour, bosspole; 1x Big shoota; Trukk w/ rokkits, red paint job, grot riggers, armour plates

FAST ATTACK
8x Bikerz, inc. Nob w/ Powerklaw, bosspole
8x Stormboyz, inc. Nob w/ Big Choppa, bosspole
1 buggy w/ Big shoota, armour plates

HEAVY SUPPORT
2x Killa Kanz w/ Big shootas, armour plates, grot riggers
2x Zzap gunz w/ 6 additional crew
Lobba w/ 6 additional crew

i field all of that in those apocalypse-sized i usually play :)

i'm looking at getting a nob mob to roll in the new trukk, but that'll have to wait for a while

`Old on. You`ve got Cap`n Jakk twice!

Oops, so i do. that was meant to be Nob...

EDIT: Fixed

You can make 2 Nobz from the 2 Boyz sprues too, just if you didn't know :D

And the list looks great!

I still suck at painting :(

Also im not sure if collecting an Empire army was a good idea. Perhaps i should try something more sinister :)
Does any race have wolves?

Goblins.

Of course, you could probably collect any old human/elf race (inc. Chaos), but replace the horses with wolves, too. However, this'd probably be expensive.

I suppose that dark elves might have some beasts as well.. Actually i am looking at them atm.

Well.. you can`t go more sinister than Dark Elves..

Dark Elves have monsters like Cold Ones (big lizards), Hydras, Manticores and Dragons, i think

About the wolves, Chaos and Beasts have Warhounds, Vampires have Dire Wolves, Orcs and Gobbos have Wolf riders and chariots

The cold ones look quite nice. I noticed that some of the dark elf models are metalic. Why is that? (my Empire sets were all plastic). Also, are there sets where some models are metalic and other are plastic? And is painting metalic models more difficult/different?

There are many plastic and metal models for most races, i think. i know there are metal orcs and orks and beasts of chaos, but they tend to be older models. a lot of the newer stuff is plastic.

Plastic is much better for conversion work, because it is easier to cut and glue. metal pieces really need to be 'pinned', which is a process where copper wire or something like that is pinned into, say, an arm and the torso to help make a more solid hold. and in my experience, plastic and metal HATE to be stuck together: half of my stormboyz have either lost their arms or their legs :( Looks like it'll have to pin them too...

And also in my experience, paint tends to chip off metal models easier than off plastic, and may need to get a coat of some sort of sealant to help protect it

finished assembling the shoota boyz today, and made two speshul ops kombat enjuneerz (kommandos with burnas :D). i'm going to see if i can loot some engineering or construction bitz from an oomie player (in true deff skull style), who i'm playing against this sunday, or maybe ask at my local GW store. looking for a couple of shovels, maybe some sticks of dynamite, and other things that would look good.

that brings the number of speshul ops boyz to 12. next i'll do the bikes, since i really want to have more for the game. i'm not so fussed about the trukk, since i haven't got anything to put in it.

Well at least the dark elves look more interesting. The empire models look very boring (although i trust that my painting does not help) ;)

And i like vicious monsters, so the cold ones should fit in nicely.
Too bad that GW does not have a Cthulhu series. I could use some Deep ones.

Grab some Greenstuff and make your own! :D

Or better yet, buy a cheap toy or two and convert one

And the Empire are boring because they are just people, nothing special there...

LMR, you should always varnish your minis, regardless of if they're plastic or metal... But you're right, metal does chip easier.

Varwnos, if you're going for Dark Elves you should know that they will get a new armybook, and some new minis in August, so don't buy the ugly models, as they may be replaced.

Vampire Counts have just got new dire wolves plastics.

Which models would you consider to be ugly? Since i am having a very hard time trying to understand what they look like looking at the GW site's pics...

I am thinking of buying a cold one knights unit, and a warrior regiment.

I havent vanished any of mine, but that is because i havent finished any models yet :(

Except for Edwurd Zizzorhund maybe...

Who is awesome...

Cheers! :D

How do you varnish them?
I will have to ask at the WH shop..

Well, the way I understand it is that you paint (spray/brush) them with varnish.

Or failing that, nail polish :lol:

You can buy spray varnish though, which is much better to do. :)

My oomie playing mate uses a low gloss varnish spray, so it stops the models for being that shiny

You can purchase a matt varnish from GW anyways :)

Well, I ussually use the "low gloss" stuff... I only use the "high gloss" on swords, armor(not laquered), and gems.

I recently got the Tyranid Codex and Battleforce for my birthday (unfortunately, no rulebook), so it looks like I'll be joining in on the fun, at least once I get some paint and glue.

How long have you all been collecting and playing?

A few years. 3 or so :D

Since late 2000/early 2001

A bit over a year

Big battle today - Good vs Evil: Chaos and Orks vs Imperial Guard, Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters

Most of my footslogging orks weren't able to make it to close combat, and were killed by multiple blast markers from the baneblade, demolisher and something else.

the lootas didn't do much damage, but the zzap guns claimed a chimera and an exorcist. i used my speshul ops squad as one led by snikkrot, without his mork's teeth special rule and using a powerklaw instead. they came on in turn three to charge into the rear of several guard squads, killing 17 in total! the nob also managed to destroy the demolisher with his klaw

both trukk squads, four stormboyz and two bikes (one nob) smashed into their lines initially, killing quite a few before being bogged down by the five or six charging guards squads

one of my kanz got immobilised, the grot riggers repaired it, then it got immobilised again after destroying a chimera

the highlight was the chaos defiler wading through grey knights terminators and kasrkin, then ripping the baneblade and basilisk apart. man of the match for sure!

i was looking forward to a little krumping when the daemon hunters deep striked a squad of grey knights behind my lines, and it would have been within assault range of two slugga mobs and a shoota mob, but instead it scattered off the table and was destroyed

end of the game, the imperium surrendered

What is the difference in using a pointed and a square brush?
(i am teh n00b i know) ;)

To add to the n00b questions...

What glue works best when assembling plastic models?

I just use the GW plastic glue. I forget what it's called.

If it's Metal->Metal/Plastic, then I'd use Superglue.

Okay, I'll pick some up the next time I stop at the games store

Pointed brushes get a more localised part of the model painted. So if you're into detail, then use the fine detail brush.

I use super glue for everything and it seems to work great :)

I use plastic glue for all my plastic models, and I pin and superglue all metal to metal, and metal to plastic stuff.

I've been playing for a couple years now, but i've only just started to collect my own army.

I use superglue for all my models, but have learnt the hard way i need to pin ALL metal parts, since a few more of my stormboyz lost their arms yesterday...

But thats only a problem for the "squishie oomies" ;)