Now they`re just.... weak and squishy.

Hmm.. now? When did they get a new codex? Or you mean now they are weak compared to other armies that have gotten new codices?

Tyranids have lost their formidableness as the threatening alien race invading the galaxy. Now they're just... weak and squishy.

I disagree. A well set up and played bug army can be a nightmare. It's just that many bug players get seduced by all the big-ugly-sexy large bugs the army has. I have local players who take 1-2 monsters (tyrant+1 more with sinapse, usually) then literally flood the board with genestealers and the rest of the smaller broods. You look at their side of the table and all you see is a wall of bug claws and tendrils and weird weapons... and then they charge. They will tipically have (in a 1800 game) well over 100 minis on the table. They will get to your side and then... lunch time... :sad:

Not Tryanid connected, but I just found it, so linky-time!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhina-w5j3g&feature=related

K - somethingy Tyranidish, sortof:

From ancient history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81zmWiOzC4&feature=related

Looks like somebody likes their Termies.

The other video is kind of... well... old?

Yeah, but the fact that its so old made me giggle, so I shared :)

Sometimes you have to appreciate the old stuff! :old:

I disagree. A well set up and played bug army can be a nightmare. It's just that many bug players get seduced by all the big-ugly-sexy large bugs the army has. I have local players who take 1-2 monsters (tyrant+1 more with sinapse, usually) then literally flood the board with genestealers and the rest of the smaller broods. You look at their side of the table and all you see is a wall of bug claws and tendrils and weird weapons... and then they charge. They will tipically have (in a 1800 game) well over 100 minis on the table. They will get to your side and then... lunch time... :sad:

I guess, but that's still frightfully limiting, especially given that the big boys are so... they're tanks but their flimsier than regular tanks. And variety isn't as promoted with Tyranids (as odd as that sounds) Fro instance, you would rarely field fleshborers, spinefists and devourers- usually just one of them.
The only reason that I field all three is because i'm using some pretty cool conversions from lizardmen to do them (regular nid gaunts as deathspitters, sauri as devourers and skinks with spinefists :D)

And my Fex is just a Screamer-Killer. Anything else would be too costly to be worth it. Granted my Broodlord has feeder tendrils, but his retinue and other Stealers don't. They're just kitted with rending claws.

Basically, you have lots of choice, but no motivation gamewise for huge variety.

Now they`re just.... weak and squishy.

Hmm.. now? When did they get a new codex? Or you mean now they are weak compared to other armies that have gotten new codices?

I mean compared to other new armies. The codex they have was made durning a sort of in-between period, between old writers and new writers. It's very poorly laid out and very poorly written. And with the new generalisations to some of the armies, it goes a little... Civ4 on them; it simplifies them, but that just makes making tactical mistakes less likely to happen. If you have less troop types to field, it's hard to bugger up. Tyranid tactics are very exploitative. They go for the weak spot and break through that way, rather than the sort of mono-et-mono stype of other armies. With these new generalisations, I feel it's given many races an unfair advantage to the poorly written Tyranids. Some say they were overpowered when they were the new codex, but now it's just turned 180 degrees, and they're facing some very unfair races, who yes, have downfalls, but not to the extent they used to. They've lost their... personality, in favour of ease of play. Even chaos has gone from chaotically evil to chaotically random. The new possessed rules embody that fully. How can you field a unit anywhere if you don't know what skill they'll have? And with the possessed, you field them first and roll to find their mutation. It's utter pants. The gods are strange but not that dumb to make their "gifts" as uncontrollable as that.

I don`t know.. Back in the WH mod discussion, someone, I think it was mrtn, said, Chaos isn`t even evil. Its just different. Its chaos. You can`t have something chaotically random. Chaos = Random..

I guess its just a Point of View thing. I think the randomness of the Possessed and the Spawn would be fun. Unless you are a tournament player. In that case, don`t bring them to the table.

Tyranids go for the wak spot and break trough that way.. Mind you, I`ve never played 40k, but this sounds very tyranid-ish to me. Take a bite out of the enemy`s line and then gnaw on his bones..

Mmmm. Squishie 'Umies. ;)

Yea that old one was okay. I loved the power sword animation.

Okay... Yeah, they're not evil so much as... alternative. Excessive and decadant. But I still think that not being able to field certain units effectivly ruins and gameplay aspect of them. What's the point of being able to Infiltrate when you've already placed the unit on the field?

They took the nobleness out of Khorne too (but a long time ago), who's now just a lunatic where before he was prideful.

And yes, that's exactly what I mean. That's the way the Tyranids play. They pick the worse defended areas, but these new rules make every unit so samey, it's impossible to do it effectivly.

Ah well, I guess i'm just a bit grumpy... The exam stress is getting to me. I think I forgot to mention that i'm sitting in the middle of the Leaving Cert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Cert) right now :lol: I finish come the 13th though, and then after that, off to college with me to major in History and minor in Linguistics (most likely)

Good luck with that, Quinn! :salute:

Yeah, I haven`t gotten into the fluff yet when Khorne was about martial prowess, not just onslaught, so I wouldn`t know about that, but I think I would`ve like it.

Yeah, I haven`t gotten into the fluff yet when Khorne was about martial prowess, not just onslaught, so I wouldn`t know about that, but I think I would`ve like it.Khorne has been pretty angry from the start. If we go back to Realm Of Chaos - Slaves To Darkness we'll see that "Khorne is the Power of Chaos in its aspect of mindless and absolute violence, destroying everything and everyone within it's reach, slaying both friend and foe alike." RoC is the seminal work on chaos, the thing GW goes back to every time they redo chaos.

I've been painting a bit today, first time since I got a new job two weeks ago. :)

Oh, and as to the randomness of chaos, this is great in the background, but that doesn't mean it would be fun playing with random mutations and what not.

If you don`t find it fun, don`t field the units. There are others that find it fun. And dammit guys, half the game is decided by random chance! General, Shmeneral, if the Dice Gods are against you...

Congratulations on the new job :)

I don`t know.. Back in the WH mod discussion, someone, I think it was mrtn, said, Chaos isn`t even evil. Its just different. Its chaos. You can`t have something chaotically random. Chaos = Random.. Hmmm... how um... very philosophical of you Stormy, I did'nt know that u had the brain power for philosophy. ;) seriously though, what u said is very true.:hatsoff::hmm:

I guess its just a Point of View thing. I think the randomness of the Possessed and the Spawn would be fun. Unless you are a tournament player. In that case, don`t bring them to the table. I suppose, it depends on the person.
Tyranids go for the wak spot and break trough that way.. Mind you, I`ve never played 40k, but this sounds very tyranid-ish to me. Take a bite out of the enemy`s line and then gnaw on his bones.. yeah, that is very tyranid-ish, and probably a fairly effective strategy for maximum punch with minimal losses, interesting.:hmm::mischief:

Hmmm... how um... very philosophical of you Stormy, I did'nt know that u had the brain power for philosophy. ;) seriously though, what u said is very true.:hatsoff::hmm:


Martin sayz, I just reepeatz. I dunno. :blush:

Have I mentioned I applied for WAR Beta? Man, I check my inbox 20 times a day. :crazyeye:

Martin sayz, I just reepeatz. I dunno. :blush:

Have I mentioned I applied for WAR Beta? Man, I check my inbox 20 times a day. :crazyeye:
wow, you're unusually intelligent for an ork (although, that isn't saying much;)).

He's a special kind of orc, he's a naitaorc.

A wha?

tenchar

20 times a day! I don't check mine 20 times a month. :crazyeye:

I have finally gotten some swordmasters. I haven't started to assemble them yet, because my brother got 16 Glade Guardsmen and a Spellweaver.

By George! A whole family of pixie lovers! :p

And its not really 20 times a day. More like 18..

oh, pixie lovers... like yourself?:p:p

Basically, you have lots of choice, but no motivation gamewise for huge variety.

Vacations+laziness=late answer... :blush:

This happens with most armies tbh. Example: tau players can choose many unit types, but most end up using massed battlesuits, because these are the most efective units. In IG, Armoured Companies are oh-so-attractive, but the best players will take massive infantry and heavy weapon squads, backed by no more that 1-2 tanks (often basilisks). And Eldars are now usually playing Falcon&Co-r-Us... :sad:

Really? cause loads of armies that I play against have only one huge centerpiece and they rock. Or suck, depending on when/if you kill it.

Okay. True question. I'm pretty sure that mages cannot get magic armor. I cannot find the rule in the book though.

Recently, that uncertainty cost me the game. grrr. :(
If that is indeed a rule, can one of you give me the page #? Or would it be found somewhere else?


And yes, I am a elf lover. They don't have wings. Or magical star tipped wands. Dagons can fly. Eagles can too. And so can Griffons. Okay? But they are just as short and just as frail. I'm sorry, but the cookies are so good. ;)

Pure awesomeness:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yw603tH6YqM&feature=related

Also, they are making a 40k mod for Mount and Blade, here is a screenie: http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/Nethoras/screeny_gimpatexx.png

I liked the part where some people think that the moon landing was a 'reincarnation in arizona' priceless. I have lost much faith in fellow americans... but then you have to ask how many people did they go through to get the answers they sought? Hmmm! ;)

For God`s sake! Those people in the video are so stupid that it has rubbed off on me! That was the 2nd time I posted it in the wrong thread. What I wanted to post was this (40k related, duh):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKpiH0A1ONg

:eek:That was like warhammer but without the warhammer bit and no Mesuring tape that was just WIERD

oh and dragonbird I respect elves...

only because I die often at the hands of them:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIy69N5N64&feature=related

An interesting tutorial for my fellow newbs :) (btw, where is Varwnos? Haven`t seen him in a while..)

I saw him the other day, I think...

Okay. True question. I'm pretty sure that mages cannot get magic armor. I cannot find the rule in the book though.

Recently, that uncertainty cost me the game. grrr. :(
If that is indeed a rule, can one of you give me the page #? Or would it be found somewhere else?

please help!

As I noticed, most of the guys here are 40k players, and mrtn plays Mordheim.. Try asking in a WH forum like Warseer?

Warseer? I'll do a google search.

Well, I know that chaos mages can certainly have magic armour, as they come with chaos armour in the box. I'd say that mages can have magic armour, but not ordinary armour.

Well, the mundane armor would be listed in the unit/character description. And there are a few armors that have the special rule that allows the mages to cast with it on.

Im here, still undecided about buying more wh stuff though

Well, the new Dark Elf stuff should be out soon, perhaps wait for that? :)

Does any of you fellow WH fans play Oblivion?

I've played oblivion for a little at a friends house...

I have no idea when the D-elves are coming out... but yea! You should get more WH stuff.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h314/CapSpackle/space_marine.jpg

Anyone else? I was thinking about a WH mod for Oblivion..

Hmm... That might be really good.

TBH i think that my WH days are over... I guess that the fact that i was never into painting figures as a child was detrimental in the end: it is hard to find the time to dedicate to a new hobby.
I guess that making gfx for civ3 will have to suffice ;)

I've a friend who started painting minis a year ago, at 32. His minis are looking more than passable. Try to get a lesson at your local store.

Yea, your minis can't be any worse than mine! :p

Where is LizardmenRule?

Anyone heard from him?

As he's from Down Under, he's probably celebrating Christmas or New Years or some other winter holiday. :p

I tried the new Citadel Washes yesterday, the first impression is great. :) Easier to use than inks, nice result. I'm converting BfSP goblins to skavenslaves, tried painting one of those.

What about aaglo? On a trip?

I tried the new Citadel Washes yesterday, the first impression is great. :) Easier to use than inks, nice result. I'm converting BfSP goblins to skavenslaves, tried painting one of those.

I did that. I also used the wizard as a chieftan with skaven brew to lead them
The people from my club said I was bieng cheap:mischief:

Of course they were! They're just jealous that they can't be as 'creative' as you can. ;)

Battlefield: Urban
Game Type: Objective
Game Size: 500pts
Game Length: 6 turns

High Elves

Noble (General)
Status: Active
Equipment: War Banner, Helm of Fortune, Heavy Armor, Shield, Lance
Mount: Barded Elven Steed

Spearmen Unit 1
(No Command)
Elves: 13 Losses: 0

Spearmen Unit 2
(No Command)
Elves: 13 Losses: 0

Spearmen Unit 3
(No Command)
Elves: 12 Losses: 2

Objectives Held: 3
Objective Bonus: 300pts

Total Victory Points:782

Wood Elves

Spellsinger (General)
Status: Slain
Equipment: Ranu's Heartstone, Elynett's Brooch, Rageth's Wildfire Blades

Glade Guard
(Full Command)
Elves: 10 Losses: 0

Waywatchers - Routed
(Champion)
Elves: 6 Losses: 3

Total Victory Points: 291


My brother and I played a couple of days ago. Yep. I think I already did the intro. :p Anyways, the game was an objective game - duh. Whoever had the most points within 5" of the objective you get it. yep.

Anyways my brother opted not to use the scout deployment style in this game for some odd reason. I had first turn and I sent each of my spearmen units to their respective objectives. My General with re-rolled 2+ armor saves was running interference for my spearmen. He got the Waywatchers, and killed 2 on the turn he charged. He got another one the next turn and the dudes routed. Then my brother used his mage to fry 2 of my guys with four spells. It sucked for him. Going by averages, that unit should be in your next meal at KFC (Kentucky-Fried-Creatures). Yum. Crispy Elves. But I only lost 2 guys.

His Glade guard took a detour around a residential district. He wanted them around my forces by turn four. They got there and in a firing position in five. It sucked. He only fired one volley at long range at my general. 3 or 4 hits and no wounds.

Okay, its official. the Dark Elves are getting their share of goodies.

New Edition Dark Elves - Link (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=22&orignav=13)

It seems to me like they are getting 3 or 4 new remodeled guys - Black Ark Corsairs - Assasin? - Cold One Knights (the cold ones seem more 'raptorish') - and one devilishly attractive hydra. They also have 2 new classes of Druchii Noblety, but it might just be a renaming.
One of the units is apparently Mengal's Flayers. It says they sell their skills to the highest bidder. I wonder how good their catfish is? :p

Okay, its official. the Dark Elves are getting their share of goodies.

New Edition Dark Elves - Link (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=22&orignav=13)

It seems to me like they are getting 3 or 4 new remodeled guys - Black Ark Corsairs - Assasin? - Cold One Knights (the cold ones seem more 'raptorish') - and one devilishly attractive hydra. They also have 2 new classes of Druchii Noblety, but it might just be a renaming.
One of the units is apparently Mengal's Flayers. It says they sell their skills to the highest bidder. I wonder how good their catfish is? :p
probably not as good as the necron atomically flayed ones are

Updating: I'm closing in on 4,000 points of Orks now, and actually getting around to some painting, although i've still got tonnes more stuff unpainted than painted. Havent had a battle in a while, and will have to take on the chaos army again soon, ready to krump da spikey beakies good! :D

My current list:
HQ
Warboss Pee-Joo (uses Ghazghkull rules)..... 225 points

ELITES
3 Nobs (60) w/ 'Eavy Armour (15); 1 w/ Twin-Linked Shoota (5) and Big Choppa (5), 1 w/ Kombi Shoota-Rokkit (5) and Big Choppa (5), 1 w/ Slugga and Choppa..... 95

4 Mega Nobs (120), 2 w/ Twin-Linked Shootas, 1 w/ Kombi Shoota-Rokkit (5), 1 w/ Kombi Shoota-Scorcha (5)..... 170 points

15 Speshul Ops (150), w/ 2 Burnas (30); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 225 points

9 Piratez (90), w/ 2 Big Shootas (10); Cap'n Jakk [Nob] (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 145 points

14 Lootas..... 210 points

12 Burna Boyz (180) w/ 2 Meks; 1 w/ Kustom Mega Blasta, 1 w/ Slugga and Choppa..... 120 points

13 Tankbustas (195) w/ 1 Tankhammer, 2 Bomb Squigs (10); Nob (10) w/ 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 225 points

TROOPS
30 Slugga Boyz (180) w/ 3 Big Shootas (15); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 240 points

30 Slugga Boyz (180) w/ 3 Big Shootas (15); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 240 points

20 'Ard Boyz (200); Nob (10) w/ Big Choppa (5), Bosspole (5)..... 220 points

30 Shoota Boyz (180) w/ 3 Big Shootas (15); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 240 points

20 Oomie Slavez [Grots] (60); 2 Runtherds (20) w/ Grot Prod (5)..... 85 points

10 Slugga Boyz (60) w/ 1 Big Shoota (5); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5); Trukk (35) w/ Big Shoota, Red Paint Job (5), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10), Reinforced Ram (5)..... 180 points

10 Slugga Boyz (60) w/ 1 Big Shoota (5); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5); Trukk (35) w/ Big Shoota, Red Paint Job (5), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10), Reinforced Ram (5)..... 180 points

FAST ATTACK
8 Stormboyz (96), Nob (10) w/ Big Choppa (5), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 121 points

11 Warbikes (275), Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), Bosspole (5).... 290 points

2 Warbuggies (60) w/ Twin-Linked Rokkits (10), Red Paint Jobs (10), Grot riggers (10), Armour Plates (20)..... 110 points

HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Killa Kanz (105) w/ Big Shootas (15)..... 120 points
2 Zzap Gunz (60) w/ 3 Additional Crew (9)..... 69 points
Looted Wagon (35) w/ Boomgun (70), 2 Big Shootas (10), 'Ard Case (10), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10)..... 140 points
Looted Wagon (35) w/ Boomgun (70), 2 Big Shootas (10), 'Ard Case (10), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10)..... 140 points
Looted Wagon (35) w/ Boomgun (70), 2 Big Shootas (10), 'Ard Case (10), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10)..... 140 points

Total: 3,990 points

I'm planning on rounding out the Lootas (only one more to go), Burnas, Tankbustas and Pirates, converting a Weirdboy, maybe getting a Big Mek, adding a Painboy to the Nobs, building the trukk that i havent built yet, and once the 5th edition starter set comes out, i'll have about 5 more nobs to add to the mob, an 'eavy armoured warboss, more slugga boyz, and THREE DEFF KOPTAS!!!

There is also space marine stuff that i'll either use as base decoration as kills, or maybe loot some of the stuff. the dreadnought is definately looted :) it sounds like quite a good starter set

Updating: I'm closing in on 4,000 points of Orks now, and actually getting around to some painting, although i've still got tonnes more stuff unpainted than painted. Havent had a battle in a while, and will have to take on the chaos army again soon, ready to krump da spikey beakies good! :D

My current list:
HQ
Warboss Pee-Joo (uses Ghazghkull rules)..... 225 points

ELITES
3 Nobs (60) w/ 'Eavy Armour (15); 1 w/ Twin-Linked Shoota (5) and Big Choppa (5), 1 w/ Kombi Shoota-Rokkit (5) and Big Choppa (5), 1 w/ Slugga and Choppa..... 95

4 Mega Nobs (120), 2 w/ Twin-Linked Shootas, 1 w/ Kombi Shoota-Rokkit (5), 1 w/ Kombi Shoota-Scorcha (5)..... 170 points

15 Speshul Ops (150), w/ 2 Burnas (30); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 225 points

9 Piratez (90), w/ 2 Big Shootas (10); Cap'n Jakk [Nob] (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 145 points

14 Lootas..... 210 points

12 Burna Boyz (180) w/ 2 Meks; 1 w/ Kustom Mega Blasta, 1 w/ Slugga and Choppa..... 120 points

13 Tankbustas (195) w/ 1 Tankhammer, 2 Bomb Squigs (10); Nob (10) w/ 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 225 points

TROOPS
30 Slugga Boyz (180) w/ 3 Big Shootas (15); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 240 points

30 Slugga Boyz (180) w/ 3 Big Shootas (15); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 240 points

20 'Ard Boyz (200); Nob (10) w/ Big Choppa (5), Bosspole (5)..... 220 points

30 Shoota Boyz (180) w/ 3 Big Shootas (15); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 240 points

20 Oomie Slavez [Grots] (60); 2 Runtherds (20) w/ Grot Prod (5)..... 85 points

10 Slugga Boyz (60) w/ 1 Big Shoota (5); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5); Trukk (35) w/ Big Shoota, Red Paint Job (5), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10), Reinforced Ram (5)..... 180 points

10 Slugga Boyz (60) w/ 1 Big Shoota (5); Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5); Trukk (35) w/ Big Shoota, Red Paint Job (5), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10), Reinforced Ram (5)..... 180 points

FAST ATTACK
8 Stormboyz (96), Nob (10) w/ Big Choppa (5), 'Eavy Armour (5), Bosspole (5)..... 121 points

11 Warbikes (275), Nob (10) w/ Powerklaw (25), Bosspole (5).... 290 points

2 Warbuggies (60) w/ Twin-Linked Rokkits (10), Red Paint Jobs (10), Grot riggers (10), Armour Plates (20)..... 110 points

HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Killa Kanz (105) w/ Big Shootas (15)..... 120 points
2 Zzap Gunz (60) w/ 3 Additional Crew (9)..... 69 points
Looted Wagon (35) w/ Boomgun (70), 2 Big Shootas (10), 'Ard Case (10), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10)..... 140 points
Looted Wagon (35) w/ Boomgun (70), 2 Big Shootas (10), 'Ard Case (10), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10)..... 140 points
Looted Wagon (35) w/ Boomgun (70), 2 Big Shootas (10), 'Ard Case (10), Grot Riggers (5), Armour Plates (10)..... 140 points

Total: 3,990 points

I'm planning on rounding out the Lootas (only one more to go), Burnas, Tankbustas and Pirates, converting a Weirdboy, maybe getting a Big Mek, adding a Painboy to the Nobs, building the trukk that i havent built yet, and once the 5th edition starter set comes out, i'll have about 5 more nobs to add to the mob, an 'eavy armoured warboss, more slugga boyz, and THREE DEFF KOPTAS!!!

There is also space marine stuff that i'll either use as base decoration as kills, or maybe loot some of the stuff. the dreadnought is definately looted :) it sounds like quite a good starter set
U should get a baneblade or two, and turn 'em inta LOOTAS!

My slaves before the new washes:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Slaves2.jpg

And after:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Slaves3.jpg

Look at those nice fingers for example, that's just a green basecoat and then a Thraka Green wash. :) I have seventeen of them finished now (apart from bases), six primed and another ten or so converted.

Those look awesome. That's a different style for the robes. I like it. 10 thumbs up! :thumbsup:

Pure awesomeness..

http://www.thq-games.com/uk/thqtv/index/1687

They look great mrtn! I'm not familiar with the chaos rules, what are you using them as?

Thanks DragonBird and LMR! I'm starting up a skaven army, so I'll use these as skaven slaves. Two point each cannon fodder. :D

I saw an awesome undead army yesterday during a tournament. I was converted with high elves.

The guy used Spearmen as zombies and swordmasters as grave guard.

He said he hack-sawed the guys heads of and he used skeleton heads on them instead.
He also used the skeleton arms instead of the spears. Anyways, it looked awesome.

I saw something like that in an old WD. Did he have great eagles as great bats, one of them pulling off the head of a empire soldier?

I have now converted my BfSP gobbos, about 50 of them, to slaves. I'll post a pic when I've based the ones that are finished.

No... I don't think he did, but he might not have fielded them. Do you have a link or something to that?

Nice stuff Mrtn!

Another Warhammer Total War mod - this time from some crazy Russians, and they do not hesitate to use Mark of Chaos gfx!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEWHQP7jksk&feature=related

No... I don't think he did, but he might not have fielded them. Do you have a link or something to that?
Nope, sorry.
Nice stuff Mrtn! Thanks.
Here are those based slaves, twentyfour of them:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Slaves4.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Slaves5.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Slaves6.jpg

I've converted about 50 of the little buggers.

Those are very awesome. What are the browns? I need a little something for the Woodies.

Thanks. :)
The medium brown is VGC Earth with a Devlan Mud wash, and the darker is VMC Chocolate Brown with a Badab Black wash.
Here's something I finished yesterday:

"Where did that cannon ball come from?"
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Notme1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Notme2.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Notme3.jpg

It works as a diorama by itself, or as a not very filling unit filler with the slaves. :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/DwarfGiantRat1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/DwarfGiantRat2.jpg

Is that.. centi-rat, rat-aur, teh mutant freak thingy, smoking a pipe? It has that Sherlock pose..

The cannon ball is hilarious! :D

That rat is excellent :D

Do you have more rats, Mrtn? I would like to see images of them :)

Is that.. centi-rat, rat-aur, teh mutant freak thingy, smoking a pipe? It has that Sherlock pose..

The cannon ball is hilarious! :D

If I get my hands on another one (they're out of production, but I'm bidding on a bunch of rats on Swedish ebay right now) I will convert it with a pipe and Sherlock hat. :D :goodjob: Thanks for the idea!

Thanks Varwnos. I only have older pics of rats and skaven I painted two years ago. Here (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Giantrats.jpg) are a few, and if you click around in that folder I have some other old skaven.

I was over to a friend this friday for painting, and base coated a warpfire thrower team, a couple of old beastmasters, a skaven slave musician, and almost finished five gobbos. Nice progress if I say so myself.

Did the goblin/cannonball bit come from the Goblin Fanatics? The only other thing I could think of was the battle for skull pass. Anyways very good job on the painting, and love the pose! :)

It's from Battle for Skull Pass. That box is amazing for what you get, especially if you play dwarves or greenskins, or can use them for anything in another army (skaven slaves, chaos troll, cannon for example).

Yea, I don't know if I've mentioned this but one of my friends has bought the set 4 times. 4 cannons and 4 trolls plus troops. Not to mention templates and dice.

Here's something I stumbled across a couple days ago. It is awesome. Radio Controlled Landraider (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_HduCtmwak) :thumbsup:

Wow, that thing is huuuuuge! Haven`t noticed until it passed trought the doorway, and then the dog showed up.. Thats a Landraider Titan :D

Someone post more wh miniatures ;)

Someone post more wh miniatures ;)

My new skaven army diary. (http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index.php?showtopic=15469)

BTW, the new Warriors of Chaos looks set to be really awesome. :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Vtraxx/Warhammer%20Fantasy/DSC00399.jpg

Oh.. my.. Chaos.. god. :faint:

Nice diary mrtn! Thanks for the cool pictures!

Sneak peak of the new SM Codex:
HQs
Master
Has well over 20 wargear options, and access to a once per game S:10 AP:1 Orbital Strike that is somewhat similar to the Witchhunter power.

Librarian
Leadership 10, and has an entire page of various powers. Big news is the Psychic Hood which now has a range of 24" instead of infinite.

Master of the Forge
Access to the Conversion Beamer, an old-school Rogue Trader era weapon with a 72" range that grows more powerful the greater the distance to its targets. At its top end, it is S:10 AP:1 Large Blast.

Elites
Terminators
Available in squad sizes of 5-10. Stormshields for Assault Termys confirmed as 3+ invulnerable vs all attacks (assault and shooting).

Techmarines
Has a power allowing you to improve the cover save of a single piece of ruins in your deployment zone by +1. Access to the Thunderfire Cannon, which is artillery and has multiple fire modes based upon 4 small blast markers. One of the fire modes makes its target count as being in difficult ground next turn. ~neat!

Honor Guard
These bad boys have access to "Relic blades" which are +2S powerweapons. Their squad leader is the "Company Champion" who is required to direct attacks vs enemy ICs if possible. ~cool!

Troops
Tactical Squads
Available in 5-10 men. Squads of ten grant access to Flamer/Multimelta/Missile Launcher/Heavy Bolter for FREE. ~Heed the words of the Codex Astartes indeed!

Scouts
WS/BS:3; the heavy bolter option has access to Hellfire rounds.

Land Speeder Storm
Scout transport land speeder nullifies enemy teleport homers and icons within 6". Enemy deepstrikers within 12" roll double scatter. Enemy units who are assualted from it are at -2 Leadership.

Combat Tactics
New marine special rule allows you to voluntarily fail any morale check for any unit in the army.

ICs
Shrike (Raven Guard)
Grants the entire army Fleet instead of Combat Tactics. He has rending lightning claws and Infiltrate.

Cantor (Crimson Fists)
Grants the entire army Stubborn instead of Combat Tactics. Sternguard Veterans count as scoring units.

Sneak peak of the new SM Codex: (part 2)
Marneus Calgar
First off, Marneus Calgar is described as awesome; the Abaddon of loyalists. Not simply because he's an outstanding fighter but because of the support he provides for his army. He gives all Ultramarines the ability to pass or fail any Leadership test (other reports say morale checks). This is a superior ability to Combat Tactics as that only works in CC and the marines can normally only choose to fail.

Marneus also has a rule called "God of War" which allows him to re-roll virtually anything (shooting to hit rolls, attacks rolls in assualt, to wound rolls). It is basically the psychic power Warp Time, but is always on and works with Marneus' shooting. His storm bolter built into the Gauntles of Ultramar is AP2. Marneus had 4 base attacks on his statline and is armed with two powerfists. ~you do the math

Calgar possesses Eternal Warrior without any mention of a mantle. Power armour is apparently no longer an option for him, but his "Honour Guard" are still in power armor. Finally, he's wearing his Terminator armour with an additional 4+ invulnerable save.

Honor Guard Vs Command Squads
There is a bit of confusion regarding these units so here are some other morsels we've heard. Honour Guard and Command Squads are two different things. Only "Chapter Masters" can get Honour Guard and they cannot take apothecaries (so no Honor Guard-Feel No Pain combos). Command Squads are available for company captains. The leader of the Command Squad is the company champion who gets to re-roll all hits against enemy ICs.

Command Squads

* Command Squads may only be taken for Captains (one per Captain).
* There is no sergeant option as the entire squad are veterans.
* The Company Champion is an optional upgrade character. The basic squad is 4 veterans and 1 Apothecary.
* Basic weapons are chainswords and either bolters or pistols.
* Any squadmember can replace his pistol or sword with: storm bolter, flamer, plasma gun, meltagun, combi-weapon, power sword, powerfist, lightning claw, or thunder hammer. Pistol may be replaced with a plasma pistol. Melta bombs and storm shields can be taken by anyone.
* The squad may be upgraded to ride bikes.


Librarians
Nine psychic powers:

* Avenger: essentially an AP3 heavy flamer
* Force Dome: 5+ invulnerable for the librarian and squad until the end of next player turn
* Gate of Infinity: librarian and squad Deep Strike back within 24" but with a minor risk...
* Machine Curse: shooting attack causing a Glancing Hit on 1 vehicle within 24"
* Might of the Ancients: Librarian gains strength 6 and rolls 2d6 armour penetration
* Null Zone: all enemy units within 24" re-roll successul invulnerable saves for rest of player turn
* Smite: 12" range, assault 4 St4 AP2
* Quickening: gains Fleet and Initiative 10
* Vortex of Doom: 12" St10 AP1 Heavy1 Blast; failed test results in the blast being centered on the librarian without scatter.

Sneak peak of the new SM Codex: (part 3)
HQ
Chapter Master
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A4 Ld10 Sv3+
- May take a Relic blade and Storm Shield.
- May take Artificer Armour.
- Has around 20 Options
- May take Terminator armour, Jump Pack or a Bike
- Gives a one shot Orbital Strike which is S10 Ap1.
- Has a Bolter, may upgrade to Storm Bolter, Combi Plasma, Combi Melta, Combi Grenade Launcher
- May replace Bolt pistol and CCW for pair of Lightning Claws or a Relic Blade

Captain
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A3 Ld10 Sv 3+
- May take a Relic blade and Storm Shield.
- If he takes a bike, Bikes may be taken as Troops
- Much the same options as above, does not have the orbital strike.

Chaplain
- Ws5 Bs4 S4 T4 W2 I4 A2 Ld10 Sv3+
- Price is about the same.
- Comes with Crozius and Rosarius
- Still allows rerolls to hit.
- Makes unit with him Fearless
- Can replace his bolter with storm, combi-, powerfist, plasma pistol.
- When taking terminator armour he replaces “power armour, boltgun, frag and krak grenades for Terminator armour and” one shooting weapon.

Librarian
- Ws5 Bs4 S4 T4 W2 I4 A2 Ld10 Sv3+
- Has gotten cheaper.
- Comes with Force weapon and Psychic Hood
- May have 2 powers.
- May be upgraded to an Epistolary which allows the use of two powers a turn. Apparently this is expensive.
- Psychic hood now has a range of 24" (whether it means that the power is within 24", or the Psyker I dont know)
- 9 powers:
Avenger - essentially an AP3 heavy flamer,
Force Dome - 5+ invulnerable for Librarian and squad until end of next player turn,
Gate of Infinity - Librarian and squad Deep Strike back within 24", but with minor risk...,
Machine Curse - shooting attack causing Glancing Hit on 1 vehicle within 24",
Might of the Ancients - Librarian gains strength 6 and rolls 2d6 armour penetration.
Null Zone - all enemy units within 24" re-roll successul invulnerable saves for rest of player turn ,
Smite - 12" range, assault 4 St4 AP2,
Quickening - gains Fleet and Ini.10,
Vortex of Doom - 12" St10 AP1 Heavy1 Blast...failed test = blast centred on Librarian without scatter.

Master of the Forge
- Ws4 Bs5 S4 T4 W2 In4 A2 Ld10 Sv2+
- Comes with Servo Harness
- Has Conversion beamer which gets stronger and more powerful the further away he is firing, in three stages. Maxes out at S10 Ap1 Large blast at 72"
- Allows Dreadnaughts to be taken as Elites AND heavy support if he is there.

Honour Guard (?-10)
- Ws4 Bs4 S4 T4 W1 I4 A2 Ld10 Sv2+ 30+ points as standard.
- Can only be taken if a Chapter Master is present in the army.
- Artificer Armour and power weapon as standard.
- Can take Relic Blades which are a two handed power weapon that gives St6.
- Can take Aux. Grenade launchers.
- One may take a Chapter Standard which, if it still has the same rules as now, gives them Counter attack.
- They may take a Chapter Champion, Champion is WS 5.
- Chapter Champion must direct attacks against enemy Independant characters if he can.
- May NOT take Storm Shields.

Command Squad:
- May only be taken by captains.
- 4 vets and 1 apothecary, Company Champion is an optional upgrade for one model.
- Chainsword and either bolter or pistol as standard.
- They can have bikes.
- Any can replace pistol or sword with: Storm Bolter, Flamer, Plasma gun, Meltagun, Combi-whatever, power sword or fist, lightning claw, thunder hammer.
- Pistol can be replaced with Plasma Pistol.
- Melta bombs and Storm Shields can be taken by anyone.
- Apothecary gives the unit Feel no pain
- One may take a Company Standard which, if it still has the same rules as now, gives them Counter attack.

Kor’Sarro Khan, Captain of the White Scars 3rd Company
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 In5 At3 Ld10 Sv3+
- Gives models in his unit hit and run and Furious Charge.
- Moondrakkan is a bike he may take. It’s a bike which can use the Run ability and can also Fleet
- Moonfang- A Power sword. Any 6’s on the to wound roll become Instant Death.
- May exchange Chapter Tactics for Outflank.

Kayvaan Shrike
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 In5 At3 Ld10 Sv3+
- Jump pack, Iron Halo and master crafted rending lightning claws.
- May exchange Chapter Tactics for Fleet.
- He has Infiltrate and gives it to his unit.

Pedro Cantor
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W4 In5 At4 Ld10 Sv2+
- Storm Bolter (Assault 4 and AP 4) and Powerfist
- Sternguard in his army count as Scoring units
- May exchange Chapter Tactics for Stubborn.
- All friendly units within 12” receive +1 attack.

Marneus Calgar
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W4 In5 At4 Ld10 Sv2+
- Can be fielded in either power armour or terminator armour. Has an Iron Halo with either.
- 2 Powerfists and a Stormbolter (Assault 4 AP 2)
- He has a power weapon which he is allowed to use (only when in artificer Armour?)
- Eternal warrior.
- His Chapter Tactics allows his army to choose to pass or fail any Ld tests.
- May reroll any failed to wound rolls in both shooting and hand to hand.
- May take 3 squads of Honour Guard, if they are all 10 man. These do not take up FOC slots.

Chaplain Cassius
- Ws5 Bs4 S4 T6(!) W2 In5 At3 Ld10 Sv 3+
- Feel No pain
- New background.

Chief Librarian Tigurius
- Knows all(!) the psychic powers available to the marines.
- May use 3 powers per turn.
- Allows army to reroll any reserve rolls.

Captain Lysander
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 In4 At4 Ld10 Sv2+
- Thunder hammer is Master Crafted and gives Lysander S10, he also adds +1 to the damage against vehicles
- Storm Shield (3+ invulnerable save for him)
- Eternal Warrior (Again?!)
- Bolter Drill- The Squad he is with is allowed to reroll misses with Bolters, bolt pistols, storm bolters and heavy bolters.
- Allows one piece of terrain to be fortified, to give +1 to its normal cover save.
- May exchange Chapter Tactics for Stubborn.

Captain Sicarius
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 In4 At3 Ld10 Sv3+
- 1 tactical squad gets Counterattack, Infiltrate, Scout or Tank hunters for free.
- An army led by captain Sicarius may re-roll the dice when attempting to seize the initiative.
- Blister pack allows for bare head & helmet in hand or wearing helmet with plasma pistol in hand.
- His mantle gives him Feel no pain(?)
- Is able to kill a Wraithlord in one hit with his wargear(?)

Vulkan He'stan
- Ws6 Bs5 S4 T4 W3 In4 At3 Ld10 Sv2+
- Chapter tactics allows all meltas and flamers to become twin linked and all Thunder hammers to become Master Crafted.
- 3+ invulnerable (GAH!)
- Heavy Flamer (which rerolls to wound)
- S6 Power weapon, Master Crafted

Brother Chronus
- Upgrade for a Space Marine Vehicle
- Gives it Bs5 and allows it to ignore Crew Stunned and Crew Shaken results.
- If vehicle is destroyed he can scurry away and crew another one.

Scout Sergeant Telion
- Upgrade for Scout Squad
- Can give his BS of 6 to another scout in the unit.
- Armed with a long range 'stalker' pattern boltgun with the pinning and rending special rules.

Elites
Sternguard Veterans (5-10):
- Ws4 Bs4 S4 T4 W1 I4 A2 Ld9 Sv3+
- Come with Bolters and 4 Kinds of Specialised round
- Dragonfire bolts- Normal Bolter, Ignores cover
- Hellfire Rounds- wound on a 2+.
- Kraken bolts- 30” range, S4 Ap4 Rapid Fire
- Vengeance rounds- 18” range, S4 Ap3, Rapid Fire, Gets hot
- Can Upgrade bolters to Storm Bolters (lose the specialist rounds)
- Can take Combi weapons (keep the rounds).
- Can also take from a small list of special and Heavy Weapons (Flamers, Heavy flamers and such.)
- One of the Sternguard can take a Powerfist or Power weapon
- They may choose which round to use each turn.

Dreadnaught:
Just like now, also may take twin CCW's or twin autocannons.

Venerable Dreadnaught:
WS and BS 5, with most of the Dreadnaught's basic weapons options.

Ironclad Dreadnaught:
Basic Dreadnaught Stats with front and Side armour 13.
- Probably comes with a Heavy Flamer rather than a Storm Bolter
- Can take a Hunter Killer
- Has Move through Cover.

Terminators(5-10)
- Basic Terminators just like now.
- Cyclone Now Heavy 2
- 1 Heavy weapon, 2nd may be purchased if squad has 10 models.

Assault Terminators(5-10)
- As now.

Techmarine
- Comes with a 2+ save.
- Allows one piece of Cover in his deployment zone become +1 to its cover save.
- Still has servitors. May choose to leave them.

Legion of the Damned
- WS4 BS4 S4 T4 W1 I4 A2 Ld10 Sv 3+ invulnerable
- Their Sergeant has Ws5
- They always Deep Strike, but reroll scatter if they want.


Troops
Tactical Marines(5-10):
- Start at 4 marines and a sarge for 90 points, full squad is 165.
- Sergeant is included in cost, may take powerfist, storm bolter, combi-bolter.
- Variable squad sizes are possible.
- Special and Heavy weapons are unavailable unless there are 10 marines in the unit, but then they get free Flamer and a free Multimelta or Heavy Bolter or Missile Launcher. Meltagun- 5 points, Plasmagun 10, Lascannon- 10, Plasma cannon- 5
- Bolter, Polt Pistol, Frag and Krak grenades as standard. (NB: they do NOT have a CCW)
- Sarge can take Power weapon, Power Fist, Lightning Claw, Plasma Pistol, Storm Bolter, Combi Flamer, Combi Plasma, Combi Melta (and maybe combi grenade Launcher)

Scouts
- Ws3 Bs3 S4 T4 W1 In4 A1 Ld8 Sv4+
- Sergeant is WS4, BS4.
- Sergeant may take combi-weapon, plasma pistol, power weapon or powerfist.
- Shotguns probably S4
- May be an option for Teleport Homers.
- Their Heavy bolter can take hellfire Rounds
- Squads can be equipped with camo cloaks, granting the Stealth USR.

Bikes
- Requires a Captain on a bike.
- Requires 5+ bikes. For details of bikes see Fast Attack options.

Rhino:
- Probably will drop to 35 points ala Dark Angels and Blood Angels.

Razorback:
- Comes with heavy bolter included in cost.
- May upgrade to: twin-linked heavy flamer, twin-linked assault cannon, twin-linked lascannon, lascannon and twin-linked plasmagun.

Drop Pod:
- Drop pod assault means that Half of all Drop pods come in on the First turn (GW doesnt want Deep striking armies to come on turn 2 or later...understandable)
- Drop pods in the first wave can act as guiding beacons for pods in the Second wave.
- Costed at slightly more than 2 marines.
- Holds 12 marines or 6 terminators or 1 Dreadnought or 1 thunderfire cannon.

Fast Attack
Bikes (3-8+trike):
-May combat squad, requires 8 bikes plus an attack bike. Divides into 4B/4B+1AB.

Attack Bikes (1-3):
- Must pay for Multi-Melta.

Scout Bikes (3-10):
- Can upgrade bike with a grenade launcher
- Can booby trap areas of terrain with hazardous cluster mines.
- Sergeants can be equipped with locater beacons. These function as a teleport homer for any deep-striking unit (drop pods, jum packs etc.)

Assault Marines (5-10):
- Sergeant may take a Storm Shield or combat shield.
- Only sergeant may have melta-bombs.
- Special weapons are 1 for every 5 models
- Specials include flamers and plasma pistols.
- May remove jump packs and get a free rhino or drop pod in return.

Vanguard Veterans (5-10):
- Ws4 Bs4 S4 T4 W1 I4 A2 Ld9 Sv3+
- Sergeant may take a Relic blade and Storm Shield.
- Come with Bolt Pistol and Close Combat weapon, can all take from a bunch of upgrades including: Power weapons, Power fists, Lightning claw (yes, one)
- Probably have an option to take Bolters
- May also take Combat shields and storm shields.
- Jump packs are an upgrade which gives them the Heroic Intervention rule. May take a transport instead.
- Heroic Intervention allows them to assault the turn they Deep strike.

Land Speeders (1-3):
Pretty much as now.
- Typhoon missile launchers fire as Heavy 2 missile launchers.

Land Speeder Storm:
- Has a Jammer which disrupts deep striking close by.
- Scouts charging from it -2 from the enemy Ld.
- Carries 5 scouts (and scouts only) and counts as Open Topped

Heavy Support
Thunderfire Cannon
- Has techmarine crew.
- Can fire in 3 different ways (all heavy 4): St 6 AP5 blast, St 5 AP6 blast ignores cover, St 4 AP- blast causes difficult terrain test in next turn/dangerous terrain for vehicles(inc. skimmers)
- May be mounted in a Drop Pod.
- Techmarine attendant can bolster defences, providing a 1 point bonus to the cover save of a single ruin in the Space Marine deployment area.

Predator:
Pretty much how it is in Codex: Blood Angels (i.e. expensive)

Vindicator:
- Siege Shield allows it to auto-pass terrain tests.

Devastator:
- Sergeant has a Signum, allows one Marine to fire at BS 5.

Whirlwind:
- Has BA/DA style ammo. (Including incendiary?)

Land Raider
- Machine spirit allows an extra weapon than allowed to be shot at any available target.
- Multi Melta is now a pintle option for all variants.
- Can Carry 12 models

Land Raider Crusader
- Machine spirit as above
- Frag Launchers as normal (useful too, now.)
- can carry 16 Models

Land Raider Redeemer
- Machine Spirit as normal
- Redeemer cannon: Range- Template S6 Ap3 Heavy 1
- Transport Capacity: 12 models


Not unit specific:
Decision to split in to combat squads is made at the time each unit is deployed or when a unit disembarks from its Drop Pod.
Combat Tactics – allows any unit to automatically fail any Morale Check it takes (from shooting and CC).
Combat shields now give a 6+ invulnerable save.
Storm shields now give a 3+ invulnerable save.
Aux. Grenade launchers are short range, can fire in tandem with another weapon.
All sergeants are veterans now, so are just called sergeants.

And some images (just scroll down)

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=142206

And some images (just scroll down)

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=142206

Gonna buy the dread, the sternguad, 1-2 pods and the weird gun! :goodjob:

Oh.. my.. Chaos.. god. :faint:

Don't you mean, Gork? Or possibly Mork? ;)

Well, it wouldn`t be appropriate, for a picture of a Chaos Warrior :mischief:

Mrtn, do you have any more pictures? I can`t seem to find any, even over at Warseer..

The Russian Warhammer mod for M2TW is coming along nicely, they released a new video! (its in russian, but it will be translated once its finished)

High and Dark elves for your pansy fans! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZBzIfD5iA

That looks great! I will dl it when i have upgraded my computer's ram.

Its not egzactly finished, so take your time :)

Well, it wouldn`t be appropriate, for a picture of a Chaos Warrior :mischief:

Mrtn, do you have any more pictures? I can`t seem to find any, even over at Warseer..

There's a grainy pic of the new marauder horsemen about as well, you can find it at Warseer, check the rumour round up, or the chaos thread I didn't start. Well, it's in the thread I started as well, but that is 112 pages or something, so it may be a tad difficult to find. :crazyeye:

100+ pages! , how long do these threads get?!

I don't like the swordy/speary regiments having every single different style of shields. It makes them look unorganized, which is far from the truth.

You might want to check the Rome TW version then. All units look the same in their regiment. Clone Wars :mischief:

I don't like the swordy/speary regiments having every single different style of shields. It makes them look unorganized, which is far from the truth.

You're mixing tactics with equipment. Remember that WFB is based on the middle ages/renaissance. There were alomost no "national" armies then. You had: local levies/militia (used whatever they could aford/steal), lord's standing castle guards (whatever the local lord could aford), the king's guard (whatever the king could aford) or mercenary regiments (whatever the regiment could aford/steal/conquer). So, a field army could be made up of dozens of diferent-looking units. It's one of the reasons why flags and tabards were so vital: identification by uniform was impossible.

If you want all dressed the same, then you have to go back to Rome or forward to the 17/18th centuries...

I think he is talking specificaly about his precious high elves, who pride themselves on their organisation (and pretty much everthing else, posh bastards), etc.

But look at it this way, DragonBird, in M2TW, as it would in in real life and in Warhammer world, when a regiment loses its numbers and needs to be reorganised and completed on the field, it borrows soldiers from other regiments.

So for egzample its all very nice and organized when they land near Marienburg, but by the time they come to help lift the siege of Altdorf, they have been trough a few scraps, and have mixed regiments, damaged armour and god-forbid, broken nails.

I think he is talking specificaly about his precious high elves, who pride themselves on their organisation (and pretty much everthing else, posh bastards), etc.

yeah well... elfs

"ahA! My regiment is prettier than yours!"
"Is not!"
"Is too! We even match our shield colors with our pants!"
"Pfft... that color is so last campaign..."

My chaos warriors match their shield colour with their armour...
Oh, and BTW, last game they had the Mark of Slaanesh. ;)

See. It's all the rage. Look like your allies so they don't go all stabby knifey on you! :p

Yes... I can see that Stormy. But what if you just enlisted that group? Hmmm? ;)

... A new WAR video. Made me really happy :D

http://www.war-europe.com/mediaplayer.html?flv=http%3A//download.goa.com/war/flv/WAR_Cinematic2_Full_EN.flv&width=576&height=344

Yeah, saw that, it's very cool. :cool:

Nice video :)

What's with the flying orcs? :p

Check out the first cinematic trailer for WAR. Orcatapults :D

Check out the first cinematic trailer for WAR. Orcatapults :D

I lost it :(

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/flash-cinematic.html

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/flash-cinematic.html

Stooopid ork! :lol:

Thanks! :goodjob:

Lol. There was a dwarf slayer. :p

So? There are Slayers in the game.. :hmm:

Or you meant more like, all the classes in the video are playable, with an exception of a Slayer?

No... I was just being goofy.:crazyeye:

We need more pics of wh mini's...

A few pics showing that vanilla can be cool :)

http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics12/img4837bdd3550e7.jpg
http://www.kaple.dk/images/ultramarine/total.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/Dieter14/Ultra2.jpg

outsTANDING!! :eek::eek: :goodjob:

So, um, who likes the new giant by GW? Raise your hands?

Before
http://uk.games-workshop.com/dogsofwar/miniature-gallery/images/giants-big.jpg
After
http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics13/img488e4a5660388.jpg

I like the one far more that the old. The old ones just look like some poor dude got streched on a rack.

The new ones are far more... gigantic. :goodjob:

I like the new ones as well :)

That's a nice conversion. :)

The new ones are nice.

The new chaos stuff is looking great:
http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/warhammer/others/chaosknights.jpg

I've been busy painting a couple of days:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/rankedbeastmen6.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/rankedbeastmen7.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Skaven3.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/Skaven4.jpg

I am a bit drunk ATM, so I will not comment on your stuff, mrtn, as I cannot see it clearly, but I will comment on the GW Chaos Knights. They, um, suck? Perhaps its the beer, but the riders themselves seem somewhat ordinary, puny, insignificant? Not like the old ones, where you would think Oh shiiit here come the Chaos Knights!

I have to agree with Stormy on this one... The Knights seem like: "Oh, tally ho! Here come the Chaos Knights. I shall finish my tea and then go to the armory." Not like: "F***! We're boned." The Chaos Steeds look positively frightning. Maybe it's the angle of the shot...

Love the tenticled Gor!

Aaaaaand I`m sober. :)

Nice stuff mrtn! I think I saw the beastmen before, perhaps on that other website you linked us to?

I've posted similar beastmen, but not this gang, not painted at least.

New Chosen Warriors:
http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/warhammer/others/chosen.jpg
http://www.cobraworld.net/nico/warhammer/others/chosenchampion.jpg

I think that both these and the knights will look cool, even though it seems that they've had a very quick paint job.

Heh, they are copying Cam`s Halberdier :D

Yeah, these guys look great. Thanks for the pics, mrtn!

Those chaos warriors look great :)

I think that both these and the knights will look cool, even though it seems that they've had a very quick paint job.

You mean they haven`t been photoshopped :p

the 2 pics aren't showing for me...

Well, I guess the owner removed them.
You can find a lot of pics in the Rumour forum on Warseer: http://warseer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=12

Most of the new chaos stuff looks dead sexy. :)

OK, lets get something straight - do you pronounce the "G" in Waaaagh?

Less talk more pics :p

OK, lets get something straight - do you pronounce the "G" in Waaaagh?

I don't. :D

Neither do I, what about the rest of our little gang?

Nope. "Waaaaaaaaaaa-h". Shouting "Wag" isn't as impressive :lol:

Well, I noticed that 70% of the geeks & nerdettes (computer stuff, not artists) that worked on Warhammer Online scream "waaaG" in the Cast video.

My left ear is still bleeding from shock, and I just wanted to double check with you guys.

They have been working on it for 3 years.... :shake:

I pronouce the g, it's the correct way. :p

Correct? Do you pronounce "Thorough" as "Turrohg" or "Dough" as "Doh-g"? :lol:

In a proper cry, the WAAAAAA part should be so loud and long that the enemy is either totally deaf or dead by the time the ork reaches the "g" :D

I pronounce the 'g'. WAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGAAAHH! :D

Where is everyone?

I have absolutely no idea...

Well.. some unexpected financial disasters prevented me from getting WH online so I am pretending it doesn`t exist for the time being.

As for the mod, I am giving Dave a couple more months to get his ass back here, and if he doesn`t I am starting it from scratch when I will be using my winter vacation (probably February), unless Virote has something to say about it :)

I could work on my .biq, although much isn't done (I've added the unit line for the Ultramarines, and the generic Ork line, and have started flavouring it, IIRC, although I haven't been anywhere near it since summer...)

Well, you have your other projects, I don`t want to impose this on you, just cos you have a headstart.

I think we have enough raw material for Alpha testing, it just needs to be put together. And I have a feeling an Alpha is what it takes to get Aaglo`s inspiration to return.

Where is everyone?

Well, I've been working and painting...

I turned this sorry bunch of monopose clanrats
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/monorats1.jpg

into this:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Skaven/monorats2.jpg

The rats look great :)

Wow.. that was a sorry bunch of monopose rats..

And Wow! you did a great job :D

Dem rats look delicious :)

Aaglo, those minis are not made of wood ;)

Nice to see you again :)

I've been building the table (not sculpting yet)-for my battlefield- from scratch, I've finished the flat part so far. don't have photos yet...

So I joined the Game Society at Uni. :D Now I have an actual excuse to paint my Mini's, and with my course laid out the way it is, I have way more time to do so too!

Tyranids, watch out, you'll be done soon I'll wager! :D

I just bought $500 worth of chaos minis for $200. Yey for ebay. :) I'm gonna split it with a pal, but I'll still get a nice amount of minis: chaos knights, warriors, hell cannon, characters and some other cool stuff.

Would those be the new chaos minis or the old ones?

Oldish; not the hunchback warriors, but the cool ones. But the old cool metal knights, not the new cool plastic ones. I seriously doubt that anyone is selling the new ones already, they were just released last saturday. ;)

Well, I finally finished Archaon (apart from static grass...) and his buddy with the big axe.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/Archaon3.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/Archaon4.jpg

This is what I'm working on now:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/skullface2.jpg

You might recognice Skullface from earlier, since then (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/skullface1.jpg) I've lowered the head, and skulpted some kind of throat guard. The sorcerer on foot got that hand because the earlier owner lost the pointing hand. I had great problems finding a left hand that wasn't too small; whatever you say about this one, it isn't too small. ;)

Sweetness! Love the arm :D

Sweetness! Love the arm :D

Thanks. :)
Remade the base of Archaon somewhat, and (probably) finished the two others:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/Archaon5.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/skullface3.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Mortals/skullface4.jpg

Wait a second.. I know that arm! And that tail! Someone`s got the new Spawn kit :mischief:

I had a nice, quick 500 point match with my Chaos Marines vs. Space Marines. I won by one point after 6 turns :D My Chaos Lord lasted right till near the end, and my 7 man Nurgle Marine squad had nothing but their Aspiring champion with power fist left at the end. My other two 5 man squads were unharmed entirely. Luckily I tool out his Librarian before he got into CC with my Nurgles and their plasma guns!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc198/rongboy/40k20Khorne2001.jpg

Are the new wh dark elves figures out yet?

AFAIK yes..

Good :) Although im not sure if i will buy them or some chaos instead.

stormy, I thaught that u were orks all the way, now ur a trator to wagh!;)

No, I`m E.E.E.*, or the full version E.E.E.E.P.**

I love the orcs and orks, but I`m not too crazy about the miniatures.

* Everything Except Elves
** Everything Except Elves or Eldar Pansies

This thread needs more pics of miniatures... :shake:

Stormrage, make yourself usefull and post some pics of dark elves pls. I need them ;)

This thread needs more pics of miniatures... :shake:
yes, it does, I would post, but nothing new

I'm making a Necromunda Delaque gang for a Necromunda campaign we're starting up. I'm building them myself rather than using the stock models. I might have pics up as soon as I can. I've also nearly finished my 500 points of Chaos in their new scheme. And 500 points of Tyranids. And then on to my Chaos Guard army :D

I wish that Mrtn was here. He was posting some pics of minis. The rest of you do nothing but loiter :p

A scholar such as yourself should appreciate that some of us have academic work to do :p

:D I am joking of course ;)

Still the thread does not more pics. It is quite dead as it is..

I am a bit dissapointed. I cannot find anything i like. Is there something more violent/horrible than the dark elves? Perhaps some Chaos Khorne creatures? Can anyone help? I am looking for something nightmarish.

I wish that Mrtn was here. He was posting some pics of minis. The rest of you do nothing but loiter :p

If you insist...

I had a basing party a forthnight ago, based 50+ minis with static grass.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Basingparty1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Basingparty2.jpg

I also played my first WoC game, I massacred some dwarves.

Here are better pics of my herdstone:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Herdstone8.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Herdstone7.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Herdstone9.jpg

ZOMG that herdstone is awesome!!!!1!!11!!!!!!one!!!!1!

Mrtn what army would you suggest for me? I am looking for something evil, grotesque, comming out of a nightmare.

The dark elves seem ok, but they are not that scary looking.

Chaos. Nurlge specificaly.

Tzeetnch can have some nifty mutations, but the colors are usally too "pretty". Slaanesh can be grotesque but also sexy.. Nurgle is basicly as evil as it gets. Makes you want to scream and vomit.

I have seen a great unclean one, and it definately did not look pretty :)

The Great Unclean One model is very very nice to paint. I'll post mine on the Weekend :D

I'm starting a Necromunda Delaque gang, and when they're all finished being modeled i'll show those too :D I'm making them from scratch, with Catachans.

Stormrage what was that site you had mentioned where i could order wh minis from? Iirc it delivered faster than GW.

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=cat&cre=min-wfb

Thank you Stormrage :)

You`re welcome! So, are you going with Nurgle?

I am not sure. I dislike the daemons models i have seen. I was looking for something more hellish but it seems that the models are a bit toned down. Perhaps i will try my luck first with some cold one knights (and hope that i will not utterly destroy them) :)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6765/dynamicentrypw9fo3.jpg

But I think the marine is preparing to shove that grenade up the Tau`s.. ummm.. exhaust pipe :mischief:

ZOMG that herdstone is awesome!!!!1!!11!!!!!!one!!!!1!
Thanks. :)
Mrtn what army would you suggest for me? I am looking for something evil, grotesque, comming out of a nightmare.

The dark elves seem ok, but they are not that scary looking.

Have you thought about the Vampire Counts? Zombies and twisted ghouls is maybe up your alley?

Funny pic Stormy. :)

These are my latest minis; some more of my "marauder" beastmen and some hounds. I'm happy with the front doggie, I modded him so he doesn't have a huge wound in his side.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/Warhounds4.jpg

These look great :goodjob:

I ended up ordering a cold one knight unit, and a guard (dont remember its actual name).
I have no idea what the scheme will be like, but i will probably use purple for the robes.

Btw, why did you choose beastmen, Mrtn?

Wow, those are some cool conversions!

The unit is called Black Guard, Varwnos.

Btw, why did you choose beastmen, Mrtn?
I got the idea for the colour scheme; yellow savannah-living lion-ish beastmen. So I started a Mordheim warband which later developed into an army. I like the beastherd models before, but this was why I started.
But now I've stopped working on the beastmen until the new armybook which should come next autumn. Now I'm working on Warriors of Chaos (the old metal beastmen I use as marauders in this army) and will continue on the skaven when they get their new armybook in the summer/spring.

@Stormy; there's only one converted model in that pic...

Oh, I thought you used Marauder torsos for the Beastmen.. my bad :) The doggie is still cool, tho :mischief:

What is the name of the dark elf crossbowmen unit? I cannot find it in maelstrom..

I think its the Dark Elf Warriors, and then you choose wether to give them xbows or spears.

Or it might be Shades.. They are "ranger" types.

The crossbowmen are made from the same box as the spearmen, the warrior box. It's probably good to get some of them, as they're a Core choice, and you need a certain number of Core units in an army (three in a 2000 p force).
You can probably find something of interest at www.druchii.net

Ty :)

Is there any varnish in maelstrom? I could not find it either. Their color collection is rather poor as well :/

I finished those beastmen and doggies by adding static grass and shields:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Beastmen/Warhounds5.jpg

Wow, those are some cool conversions!
:mischief:

Nice grass for the savannah theme :), and a nice juicy red color!

Just stumbled upon this:

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/images/aow15.jpg

Its so cool..

Is that a sculpt or a regular mini?

I think that i will try to paint the banners as byzantine flags (like the one in my avatar). Also possibly use red instead of purple for the robes, so that the elves will look more like byzantine soldiers :)

Btw here is a cool pic of some empire soldiers using the greek and byzantine emblem:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d40/Mattias_/WHFB%20Empire/Bild033.jpg

Wow, that is a cool regiment! Great paint job!

The Chaos Dwarf is a sculpt, but if I understood correctly, it will be made into a miniature :)

I'm thinking of getting some broadsides soon...
do you think that I should get the forge world version, or the standard broadside?

Forgeworld stuff always looks cooler :D

my thoughts exactly

here are some pictures from forge world
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Battlesuits/bsidep4.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Battlesuits/bsidep5.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Battlesuits/bsidep2.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Battlesuits/bsidep1.jpg
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Tau/Battlesuits/bsidep3.jpg

My minis arived :)
Unfortunately though, i do not like them :(

I might buy some empire stuff however, i liked their knights particularly.

Which ones did you get?

A cold one knights and a black guard. They seemed too spikey for my taste.

Btw, Warseer is down...

Does anyone know any other site that has painting logs for Warhammer? I am especially interested in pics of the empire :)

Warseer is up again :) Here is a pic of some empire knights:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d40/Mattias_/WHFB%20Empire/Bild017.jpg

Here's a battle report with pictures from a game I played this weekend. (http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index.php?showtopic=16360)

BTW Varwnos, Herdstone is a forum with painting logs. ;)

Great picture V. And a cool report, mrtn, but I am even more impressed by this:

How mrtn made a Chaos Warrior from scratch (http://z2.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index.php?showtopic=13265)

Herdstone seems to be mostly about beast herds though. No empire stuff..