View Full Version : Mod Idea: The Future of Today
Kaiserguard Apr 23, 2007, 03:13 PM After I have finished WWIII, I am planning to make mod that takes place in the 22nd century. It would like to hear your thoughts.
It will be very ambitious, essentially making a new game, with tech's, units and civics you have never seen before, such as laser cannons, fusion bombers and Submarine's. I will be the creative-brains and XML coding, but obviously, I will require help from 3D-guys, Python-guys and other talented people.
Situation: Its 2100, the beginning of a new century! Europe is divided between the EU and the CIS, and both seek to be the ultimate power of Europe, while the Middle-East, South-West Asia and North-Africa is dominated by Iran, Israel and Morocco; Iran and Morocco fight for the Arabian peninsula, and the value of Sjiism and Sunnism respectively. Israel is not interested in the Arab peninsula and has no more hostilities with the Islamic World based on the religion, and in order to maintain Great Power status, Israel fought with Iran during the Third Iranian-Moroccan war, but fought with Morocco during the Second Iranian-Moroccan war.
United States struggles to mantain great power status, especially with the rise of the EU, the CIS, India and more, nevertheless, they are still influential, but the Latin American Socialist Union forms a threat the USA cannot deny.
Increasing Neo-Militarist sentiment in Japan, the Commonwealth (which also aims to retake Britain from EU) and Morocco futher complicates this already distabilizing world. Socialists, Technocrats, EU and the US fear that if these nations form an alliance, the consequences could be dire.
more to be followed...
Nations
-Commonwealth of Independent States
UU: T-240 Tank
-United States of America
UU: B145 Fighter
-Latin American Socialist Union
UU: A354 Submarine
-State of Israel
UU: C74 Bomber
-United States of Europe
UU: Leopard VI Tank
-United Kingdom of Northern Africa
UU: Royal Guard (Its much more deadly than its name would suggest, I'l assure you)
-Republic of Persia
UU: Anusiya Tank
-Republic of India
UU: Elephant Artillery
-Technocratic Union of China
UU: Panda Crawler
-Japanese Empire
UU: C45 Cyberwalker
-Union of Africa
UU: Sirit Bomber
-Commonwealth of British Nations
UU: Reformed Redcoat
Unit types (a tease op whats giong to be in)
- Laser cannon's
- Fusion tanks
- Troop Crawlers
- Submarines
- Nukes
- Atmospheric Fighters
- Bombers
- War Walkers
Civics:
Government: (how decisions are made)
-Virtual Democracy
-AI Entity
-Police State
Economics: (how work is organised)
-Socialism
-Mercantilism
-Free Market
Legal: (what laws there are)
-State Terrorism
-Mind Control
-Free Speech
Military: (defines how some military units are controlled and which kind of infantry you're allowed to built)
-Mechanized troops (Mixed army consisting of human volunteers and conscripts and mechanized vehicles and machines)
-Clone troops (Infantry is all cloned and under AI control, vehicles and machines are all AI controlled however)
-Robotic troops (Infantry is fully robotic and vehicles and machines are all AI controlled)
Improvements:
-Maglevs
-Undersea tunnels
-Sea Farms
-Sea Mines
Leif Apr 23, 2007, 04:23 PM I like your idea, but I think we need more UUs, also ,I think older 'traditional' civics should be available.
Kaiserguard Apr 24, 2007, 08:56 AM I have taken you're ideas on terms of civics, on the UU's I dont know yet, because I also want to keep this mod in civ pace.
SiLL Apr 24, 2007, 11:38 AM I like your ideas as well. But there is only one thing, I really don't get: Why is the Iran fighting with Morocco over Arabia :confused:
I could name you easily a bunch of countries in the arabian region far more powerful then maorocco
Kaiserguard Apr 24, 2007, 12:57 PM The mod is set in the future, in 100 years Morocco could well unsurp the entire 'Maghreb' region or what westerners call Northern Africa (note that Maghreb actually means Morocco in Arabic).
Perhaps it sounds strange, but remember that real history had similiar occasions. At one point in history, historians and analysts alike thought that Austria(!) would unify Germany; they didn't even talked about Prussia, which eventually would truly unify Germany. I think that such strange things ARE possibilities, so I have adopted likewise things in my mod.
SiLL Apr 25, 2007, 07:04 AM The mod is set in the future, in 100 years Morocco could well unsurp the entire 'Maghreb' region or what westerners call Northern Africa (note that Maghreb actually means Morocco in Arabic).
Perhaps it sounds strange, but remember that real history had similiar occasions. At one point in history, historians and analysts alike thought that Austria(!) would unify Germany; they didn't even talked about Prussia, which eventually would truly unify Germany. I think that such strange things ARE possibilities, so I have adopted likewise things in my mod.
Alrights, good point. Still I think bevore Marocco conquers arabia switzerland conquers europe ;), but okay, who knows what's gonne happen. And I understand the advantage for the scenario having the Iran and Morocco as the two dominating powers, 'cause of their geographical positions (Morocco: west, Iran: east).
So I would love to play this mod. The units sound interesting, too.
lamppost4 Apr 25, 2007, 09:35 AM this looks great, do you have any idea on when it will come out. Unfortunately i don't have the skills required to help you.
SiLL Apr 25, 2007, 09:50 AM I would be willing to do 2d-graphic stuff, if u want to. Like Buttons and Leaderheads.
Here are 3 samples how my leaderheads can look like
http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members15/badshitnew/china.jpg
http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members15/badshitnew/europe.jpg
http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateien/members15/badshitnew/india.jpg
Kaiserguard Apr 25, 2007, 12:34 PM This looks excellent! If want to join welcome, I just haven't on this mod yet however. If you're eager to do some work for me, the WWIII mod is nearly finished, but it could use some buttons and more (perhaps you like to do the former first because the other is mainly unfinished code of mine, 3D models and maps).
But it seems that this mod is attracting more curiosity than my WWIII mod, maybe I'll put WWIII on hiatus to start on this one.
This is roughly how a cyberwalker is supposed to look like IMO, like this, but then representing 1/4 size of the Empire State Building, you'll get the idea! :goodjob:
http://ee.heavengames.com/albums/Sketches/EE15_E.sized.jpg
http://ee.heavengames.com/albums/Sketches/EE15_D.sized.jpg
This could just be OUR robotic infantry!
http://ee.heavengames.com/albums/Sketches/EE12_D_100dpi.sized.jpg
Kaiserguard Apr 25, 2007, 01:09 PM Power blocs
Democratic:
-US
-EU
-India
Militaristic:
-Japan
-Morocco
-Commonwealth
Technocratic:
-CIS
-China
-Israel (co-belligerent, not truly dedicated to the ideology)
Socialistic:
-Persia (co-belligerent, not truly dedicated to the ideology)
-Latin America
-Africa
SiLL Apr 25, 2007, 01:10 PM If you're eager to do some work for me, the WWIII mod is nearly finished, but it could use some buttons and more (perhaps you like to do the former first because the other is mainly unfinished code of mine, 3D models and maps).
Well, I'm still occupied with my own project ("occupied" is maybe a little to much.. haven't worked on it much lately :mischief:). But I'm an expert in doing many buttons good but also quite fast. So I can make them for you for the WWIII scenario, too. Just send me a pm. But I think the cause why this idea attracts more interest is, that there already a couple of WWIII and Cold War -scenarios out there, but this is something new
The drafts for the soldiers look very nice :goodjob: I hope somebody will be able to realize them. Unfortunately I know more about C++ then 3d-models, and that is already quite nothing ;)
EDIT: Got the Iran now renamed to Persia? Beside that I see a couple of problems with the ideologies. So will Israel, the US and UK all not like each other. The US will even like Europe more then the UK. I know, that this scenerio is based on a fictional history full of unexpected events. But is it really intentend to be that way?
Kaiserguard Apr 25, 2007, 01:43 PM Well, Democrats and Technocrats do not really hate eachother at start, Technocrats are at war with the Socialists, and Democrats are at war with the Militarists. Though its possible that two alliances will mold into randomly one, and that the conflict will escalate.
Note that the Commonwealth strives for the recreation of British Empire, and its pretty much modeled and inspired by the likes of the British Union of Fascists and their vision of the British Empire, its also a bit inspired by the South African apartheid regime.
Note I haven't drawn these pictures myself (in fact its EE2 concept art), maybe I'll make some in the future, also giving 3D modelers a better picture.
Kaiserguard Apr 26, 2007, 06:02 AM I have some tech ideas...
Nano Assembly
Forcefields
Sea Cities
Cloaking
Cybernetics
Turbo-Cloning
Robotization
Ecotopianism
Arcologies
Kaiserguard Apr 27, 2007, 02:56 PM Sill, you wanted concept art of mine? You'll get it! It may be not the best though I am still very statisfied with the result.
Sorry for the purity-freaks: I have changed the contrast a bit in order to show the borders more clearly, as my scanner sucked ass.
SiLL Apr 28, 2007, 03:25 AM Is it just me, or does this looke like a merge of the middle ages and the future? I mean are that actually horns being at the back of this one tank :confused: And this one thing looks like a tower of some old castle with a princess in it. I mean they look very interesting, but not very sci-fi-like :D
EDIT: Except the MS-Drone, this is what I imagined
Kaiserguard Apr 28, 2007, 03:34 AM I have to admit that the Cyberwalker and the Arcologie doesn't really look sci-fi indeed.:lol: But ith some creative texturing by the 3D guys, this could however. Its meant that 3D modelers would make models that resemble the pictures, not matching it.
Some Wonder Ideas:
-Nanite Diffuser (destroys all nukes and disallows nations to build nukes)
-Dinosaur Park (More gold)
-Gliese 581c Colony
SiLL Apr 28, 2007, 05:59 AM Some Wonder Ideas:
-Nanite Diffuser (destroys all nukes and disallows nations to build nukes)
-Dinosaur Park (More gold)
-Gliese 581c Colony
I would not recommand the use of the "Nanite Diffuser". Because this would pretty much kill any meaning of nukes and I don't think the game would benefit fron this. But I like the Dinosaur Park :goodjob: Even better would it be, if there were a slight chance of the dinosaurs escaping, so that couple of them would would appear arround a city and attack u. Of course the effort to realize this might be a little to high for such al ittle feature. But still it would be cool :cool:
What exactly is a "Gliese 581c Colony"???
Kaiserguard Apr 28, 2007, 06:05 AM Gliese 581c is a planet that has been recently discovered; and its very similliar to earth, having even an own sun.
ArneHD Apr 28, 2007, 07:41 AM Just a comment that, unless given very strong militaries, I think both Israel and Japan are going to be crushed fairly quickly. Although Israel more so than Japan. I would therefore suggest that Israel be given a tank UU, Europe a Bomber UU and Japan a naval UU.
SiLL Apr 28, 2007, 08:09 AM Gliese 581c is a planet that has been recently discovered; and its very similliar to earth, having even an own sun.
O okay... Then I like this idea as well. I would recommand a huge research bonus fo that wonder.
And by the way: Right now Greenland belongs to Denmark - an european country - not canada.
EDIT: I like your sig Arne. I might steal it for the use in another board ;)
Kaiserguard Apr 29, 2007, 06:03 AM Note that Japan controls Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia as well, and Israel controls the entire levant and parts of current Saudi-Arabia and Iraq. But thanks for the suggestion, Israel will get a tank UU, and Japan a naval UU.
Greenland has currently some sort of independence, altough I would Imagine, that a Neo-fascist Commonwealth having lost Britain and Ireland to the EU, the would have obviously ambitions to retake it,would occupy Greenland and Iceland in order to do so.
Instead of Morocco controlling entire North Africa, I have now a better idea; a United Kingdom of North Africa, with Morocco, Algeria and Egypt being constitionary contries like England and Scotland are of modern-day Britain.
SiLL Apr 29, 2007, 07:12 AM Instead of Morocco controlling entire North Africa, I have now a better idea; a United Kingdom of North Africa, with Morocco, Algeria and Egypt being constitionary contries like England and Scotland are of modern-day Britain.
I would prefer this. :yup:
But I would include in the name something thats relates to the Islam, not only because all those countries would be Islamic, but also because especially Egypt stated very clearly to belong to the Arabian world and not to the African.
Kaiserguard Apr 29, 2007, 10:49 AM United Arab Kingdom of Morocco, Algeria and Egypt?
SiLL Apr 30, 2007, 10:02 AM Well, maybe Arab Kingdom of Northafrica would be better, because otherwise the list of countries might get too long ;) (for example Libya was missing)
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