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das May 06, 2002, 11:15 AM Okay, I decided to try again...
Rules:
No flaming.
Pay respect to everyone.
1 real life day=1 year.
Also, PLEASE, don't make unrealisitc changes and if you could, don't make too much posts a day, so I could at least try to manage this one (NOTE: If this fails too, then I am out of the whole NES business FOREVER).
Oh yes, and this one is based in Age of Revolutions (1793)
ARMY
Huge: 1,000,000 men
Large: 750,000 men
Medium: 500,000 men
Small: 250,000 men
NAVY
Huge: 100 combat ships total(not including transports)
Large: 75 combat ships total(not including transports)
Medium: 50 combat ships total(not including transports)
Small: 25 combat ships total(not including transports)
Only one advance up level per real-life week.
Thanks Uknemsis!
ANOTHER ADDITION: Every time there is a battle, I will decide the rsults by my secret system.
Civilizations:
Eskimo Republic of Canada:
Capital City: Vancouver
Governemnt: Republic
Military Strenght: Medium army, medium navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs:
Note: Arose out of Eskimo confederations.
California:
Capital City: San Francisco
Government: Republic
Ruler: (charliehoke)
Military Strenght: Medium army, little navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs:
Note: Just arose out of rebellion against British.
Aztlan:
Capital City: Tenotchitlan
Government: Theocracy
Ruler:
Military Strenght: Large (but primitive) army and little navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With:
MPPs:
Mohawk Confederation:
Capital City: Mohawk
Government: Republic
Ruler: Powhatana (Jimjam Jones)
Military Strenght: Large (but primitive) army and no navy
Tech. Level: Early Middle Ages
In War With:
MPPs: With USA (NAA)
USA:
Capital City: New York
Government: Republic
Ruler: George Washington (wilboman)
Military Strenght: Medium army and small navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With: Great Britain
MPPs: With Mohawk Cofnederation (NAA)
Inca:
Capital City: Machu Pichu
Government: Democracy
Ruler: Grand Inca (Jason the King)
Military Strenght: Large army and small navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With New Republic of China, Russia, Scandinavia and Germany (Shanghai Pact)
Great Britain:
Capital City: London
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Ruler:
Military Strenght: Small army and huge navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Rome-Gaul (Jus d'orange pact)
Ireland:
Capital City: Dublin
Government: Republic
Ruler: Dan Grace (SKILORD)
Military Strenght: Medium (but determined to fight to the end even as it's untrained) army and no navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Germany (Republican Alliance)
NOTE: Arose from Republic rebellion of 1792-3
Spain:
Capital City: Saragoza
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Ruler: King Jose Cube (vanillacube)
Military Strenght: Medium army, medium navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With:
MPPs: With Greece and Hungary (THE SEURO)
Rome-Gaul:
Capital City: Rome and Lungdunum (Lyons)
Government: Democacy
Ruler: ? (CONRAD)
Military Strenght: Medium army, and small navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Great Britain (Jus d'orange pact)
Notes: Had a major republican revolution in 1806-8.
The Scandinavian Union:
Capital City: Stockholm
Government: Monarchy
Ruler: Karl Max I (Ice Eye)
Military Strenght: Small Army, Small Navy (old- including the 5 russian ships)
Tech. Level: Middle Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Russia, Incas, New Republic of China and Germany (Shanghai Pact)
Germany:
Capital City: Vienna
Government: Republic
Ruler: Chancellor Ludwig Lozte (das)
Military Strenght: Huge army and small navy
Tech. Level: Middle Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Ireland. With IncaRepublic of China, Russia, Scandinavia and Inca (Shanghai Pact)
Hungary:
Capitol City: Budapest
Govornment: Monarchy
Ruler: Attila the Great (__LuFFaReN)
Military Strength: small army and nvoe anvy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Greece and Spain (THE SEURO)
Greece:
Capital City: Athens
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Ruler: King Kefka (Kefka)
Military Strenght: Medium army and medium navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With: Babylon.
MPPs: With Spain and Hungary (THE SEURO)
Egypt:
Capital City: Alexandria
Government: Monarchy
Ruler: Ramses III (Sealman)
Military Strenght: Large army, and small navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With:
MPPs:
Madagascar:
Capital City: Tamatava
Government: Democracy
Ruler: Kushanis (Kushanis)
Military Strenght: Medium army, and small navy
Tech. Level: Medium Middle Ages
In War With:
MPPs:
South Africa:
Capital City: Deutschkolonien
Government: Republic
Ruler:
Military Strenght: Small army, little navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age:
In War With:
MPPs:
Note: Arose in 1802, after being given independence by Germany.
Russia:
Capital City: St. Petersberg
Government: Monarchy
Ruler: Nicholas Alexandrovich Romanov (uknemsis)
Military Strenght: Huge army, and small navy
Tech. Level: Middle Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Scandianvian Union, Germany, Inca and NEw Republic of China (Shanghai Pact)
Babylonia:
Capital City: Babylon
Government: Theocracy
Ruler:
Military Strenght: Small (and untrained) army and little navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With: Greece and Srivajaya.
MPPs:
Persia:
Capital City: Ismail
Government: Theocracy
Ruler:
Military Strenght: Large army and medium navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With: Srivajaya
MPPs:
India:
Capital City: Delhi
Government: Republic
Ruler: ?
Military Strenght: Medium (primitive) army, little navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs:
Srivajaya:
Capital City: Jakatra
Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Régua Elevada (Toasty)
Military Strenght: Small army and large (but not very well advanced) navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With: Persia and Babylonia.
MPPs: With Japan (Pact of Rising Sun)
The New Republic Of China:
Capital City: Peking
Government: Republic
Ruler: Ki Lao (Dexter)
Military Strength: No Army, No Navy
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age
In War With:
MPPs: With Germany, Inca, Russia and Scandanavia (Shanghai Pact)
Japan:
Capital City: Oda
Government: Feudalism
Ruler: Shogun Maximus (Maximus12456)
Military Strenght: Medium (but primitive) army and small navy
Tech. Level:
In War With:
MPPs: With Srivajaya (Pact of Rising Sun)
Timeline:
NES II ARCHIVE:
1792 - Anti-German Coalition is formed between Greece, Great Britain and Rome-Gaul. Ireland rebels, and is supported heavily by Germans. Battle at Straits of Dover: German attempt to take control over English Channel fails. German invasion of Gaul and Greece begins.
1793 - General Karl Geberstein is promoted to Marshall, and arrives to Carpathians to lead invasion of Greece. Egypt-Germany Alliance against Greece. Irish Republican Army is organized out of the primary resistance groups. First records of IRONCLAD project were written. Madagascarin expansion into Mainland Africa begins. Irish militants open fire in London but are all slaughtered. So-called Project "Nemesis" is underway in Ireland. Russian expansion into Central Asia begins. Srivajaya begins massive colonization of their region. Shogun Maximus takes over Japan after defeating other Rodins. Egyptian Ra and Set divisions invade Greek Middle East.
1794 - Spanish sail out to Brazil. Russia guarantees independence of Greece. Japanese colonization of Alaska begins. Germany invades Hungary. Irish rebels blow up courthouse of Athens. German troops poor into Hungary, and establish contact with Hungarian rebels there. Pact of Rising Sun is signed between Srivajaya and Japan. British recognize Irish Independence and German Republic. Spanish colonize Brazil.
1795 - Ivory Coast is colonized by Rome-Gaul. George Washington leads rebellion in Thirteen Colonies, forming a new nation. Admiral Hans wins overwhelming victory in Corfu, basically cleaning the way to Alexandria. Battle at Pest turns into a long positionary fighting over the bridges between Buda and Pest. Irish colony of Irish West Africa is formed. Russian colonization of New Zeeland and Argentine begins. Russia rents a military base on Crete. Irish start support of Incan military reforms. German colonization of South Africa begins.
1796 - British and Californians agree to truce. Californian capital is moved to San Francisco. Californian expansion to the east begins. Permanent supply line Venice-Alexandria is established. General Shang Tung defeats his opponents and come to power in China. Massive military reforms begin in China.
1797 - Chancellor Hermann assassinated. Ireland sends its generals to train the less effective armies to resist monarchist expansion. China-Russia border is established, as Chinese conquer Afghanistan. Mohawk Confederation is turned into Republic. Thirteen Colonies turn into USA: colonies turned into states. New American states of Maine and Quebec are formed. Spanish begin massive navy buildup. Germany first suggests negotiations with Madagascar on the divison of South Africa. No response.
1798 - Eskimo Republic of Canada is formed. Karl Geberstein takes over as Temporary Ruler of Germany, promising that he will resign at first demand of the People. Americans sign truce with British and start colonization of Africa.
1799 - Chinese colonization of Alaska begins. German colonization of Venezuela and Southern Brazil begins. Incan Congress is formed. Srivajaya invades Babylonia, and enters it's fleet into Euphrates and Tigris.
1800 - Germany invades Madagascar to force them to begin negotiations. German colonization of Australia begins. Town of Hermanburg is built in southwestern Australia. Massive military and modernization reforms begun in China. Spanish-Irish Trade Agreement is signed. Greece invades Babylonia and quickly defeats Babylonians at Mossul. North American Alliance (NAA) is formed.
1801 - Rome-Gaul declares war on India. Roman-Gaulian forces overrun Indians, and quickly conquer the territory. Incas offer their help to Madagascar. Bombardment of Tamatava Harbor as well as several other Madagascarin ports has begun. First Ironclad is first used in Tamatava. Gausche Line of wooden forts has been constructed on German South Africa's borders.
1802 - Germany gives South Africa independence, in order to solve the crisis. Germany guarantees independence of South Africa. Shanghai Pact is signed between China and Greece and Srivajaya overrun Much of Babylonia. Irish colonization of South America begins.
1803 - Babylon falls to Greeks. Incan colonization of Somali begins. Madagascar begins northward expansion. Swedish nobility demands independence from Russia, Russians allow them to create their own nation: Scandinavian Union. Incan colonization of Australia begins. Incas join Shanghai Pact.
1804 - Irish colonization of Australia begins. Australia division offer is first offered by Germany. Countries of the world demand Rome-Gaulian withdrawal out of India. Madagascar declares war on Rome-Gaul. Greece grants Hungary independence. Hungary, Greece and Spain join SEURO. Greece leaves Jus d' Orange Pact.
1805 - Massive Scandinavian colonization of Brazil and Africa begins. Russia and China declare war on Rome-Gaul, starting The War of Indian Liberation. Russia and Scandinavia join the Shanghai Pact. A revolution in Madagascar establishes Democracy. Karl Geberstein officially abdicates, as Wilhelm Gausch is elected new Chancellor. Karl Geberstein leads a new offensive against Roman-Gaulian forces, so Italy and Gaul will be cut one from another. Battle at Po River: Italia is cut off from Gaul.
1806 - Finns rebel and arrest Russian soldiers all around the territory. Rome-Gaul invades Rhineland. Russians sell some of their colonies to Scandinavian Union, in order to free the garrisons. Germans win at Genoa, but much of their Italian Offensive is exhausted. Rome-Gaulian King is assassinated, as more and more uprisings begin. Russians land in Normandy and Sicily. Sicily is overrun, and Romans make strategical withdrawal. In Normandy however, Russians are pushed back to sea. Rome-Gaulian forces are defeated by Scandinavians.
1807 - Rome-Gaulian are defeated in India, and pulled back to Delhi. Revolution in Rome-Gaul begins. Battle at Brussels: a major Gaulian Defeat, as Germans cur off the port city of Calais, just before the cease-fire comes. Cease Fire between Rome-Gaul and the Anti-Roman Coalition. Russians evacuate from Sicily. First Olympic games are held in Athens.
1808 - Nurnberg Peace Offer is first made by Germans. Romans soon agree it... The results are: All of Belgium and Milanese Lombardy goes to Germany, some parts of Gaulian West Africa go to Scandinavia, Switzerland goes to Rome-Gaul... Chinese treacherously occupy India.
1809 - Madagascar declares war on China, a first step to Second Indian Liberation War. Russia, Inca, Scandinavia and Germany follow it. China invades Siberia. Battle at Ulan Ude: Chinese push to the Lake Baykal. Landing India: Russia Marines liberated first Bombay and then other coastal Indian cities.
1810 - New colonial drive in Rome-Gaul. Chinese start a major counteroffensive in India. Imperial Line is built on China-India border if the counteroffensive fails. Chinese win at Cuttack and retake East Coast of India. German Expeditionary Divison has arrived to Siberian Front, and launched an offensive in Tibet with the help of natives. However, it turned into Trench War because of an outraging defeat at Lhasa. Canadian expansion northward begins, by admitting Inuit tribes into the Confederation.
1811 - True Industrial Age has begun with the discovery of steam and a good use for it in transportation. With the arrival of main German forces to the front, invasion of Amur province and offensive in Tibet, in the lest-protected area of merchant town - Tsuhilumpo. In Amur, There were not enough Chinese to face the attack, but it was stopped, while in Tibet the sudden offensive by German forces was a victory. A costly one, of course, but a victory. New Russian offensive in India is held at Ahmadnagar, as war in India turns into Trench War, until someone breaks the stalemate... Massive reforms of Russian and Scandinavian fleets bring them into Ironclad Era. Battle at Irkutsk, and some other smaller clashes: more Chinese gains in Siberia, but at large cost. Germans start bringing their navy up to date too... Russians reinforce the new offensive in Amur Region.
sealman May 06, 2002, 11:35 AM To: Chancellor Shultz
Fr: King Ramses VII
Most honored Chancellor,
It appears that the evils of the world have aligned against you. While Egypt has no malice towards England and France, we have been victimized many times by Greek incursions into our lands in the Eastern Med.
Egypt is interested in joing in a military agreement against the Greeks. Currently the Ra and Set Divisions of the Lower army are ready to march into Greece should you agree to this arrangement.
King Rames VII
das May 06, 2002, 11:39 AM 1812 - Operation Serpent: Russian and Scandinavian marines land in Tientsin and after taking it, they've stopped Shang Tung and his government from escaping by surrounding Beijing. This caused great demoralization in the army. Before Chinese commanders restored order, Allied troops have advanced very far in all fronts. They started to meet a new threat: Chinese partisans.
1813 - Shang Tung escapes on a last cargo ship out of Shanghai, thanks to his followers who helped him to escape from Beijing. War is basically over as republican rebels take control over east China. New waves of Canadian expansion begin. New Republic of Chain is established under interim leader Jin Teng. India is now independent and its territory is doubled. Over 7/8 of Chinese territory is abandoned, and any country can claim this territory. All of Chinese army and navy have been disbanded. Germany and Russia quickly start to claim abandoned land.
1814 - On the first Chinese democratic elections, Socialist Free Party and Ki Lao win. On the new elections in Germany, Ludwig Lozte has come to power. Sugurha returns to Hungary. German East Africa and German Abyssinia are established. Farther Incan expansion in Somali.
1815 - Californika is invented, a Canadian warship based on Californian designs and some Canadian additions. Canadians make their new North America division plan.
1816 - Incan capital is moved to Machu Pichu. Incas make their new South America Division plan. First railroad is built between Vienna and Graz. German colonies first appear in Indo-China.
das May 06, 2002, 11:42 AM We agree to an alliance against Greece, your Majesty Ramses.
Sixchan May 06, 2002, 11:49 AM I'm going the Brits again!
IDEAS: Players need to meet regularly to ensure the story stays water-tight.
Once MP comes, and once Cities can be placed, it will be MUCH easier to ensure everything works (i.e. reasonable build times, bugeting)
SKILORD May 06, 2002, 12:33 PM i must be nuts. i'll play as the irish lead by Dan Grace (A freind of mine who's irish)
The IRA was recruiting. even as the Chancellor ordered colonists to make their way to Africa and the ivory coast. The Greatest of the Ship Builders began work on an Ironclad, designed to change the face of Naval Warfare.
Kushanis May 06, 2002, 01:00 PM [OOC - You know you've lost your sanity when...]
The blood cerimony was complete and a leader was chosen.
Kushanis has arisen above all the other clans and had unfied there island for a better future.
He was declared King, and took control of all affairs of state and Internationally.
The flag was chosen as well, to fly above the nation for all time.
Toasty May 06, 2002, 01:02 PM What a wierd country name...
Anyways, I'll try this one. Looks like fun :cool:.
Srivajaya:
Capital City: Jakatra
Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Régua Elevada
Military Strenght: Small army and large (but not very well advanced) navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With: Persia
MPPs:
uknemesis May 06, 2002, 01:02 PM Are the Russians taken yet?
If not, I want them!
Nemesis
Maximus12546 May 06, 2002, 01:03 PM Hey im totally new to this NES thing, and i would just like a few questions answered. how exactly does this work? do we all have to play the same map? what do u mean one real day=one year? can i start a new country? (damn you skilord i wanted ireland! :( )
Snaproll May 06, 2002, 01:10 PM I would like to try California, but I also don't know too much about how all this works. I'd really like to give it a shot, however!
Maximus12546 May 06, 2002, 01:14 PM I also dont know to much abou this, as some of you may have noticed from my earlier post, but since ireland is taken, i would like to start my own country, the Independant Socialist Republic of New England (ISRNE) that right, Communism! :) heheheh:nuke: hehehe:nuke:
Kushanis May 06, 2002, 01:30 PM TO: The Nations of the world.
FROM: The Monarchy of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Greetings
Hello from the King of Madagascar - Kushanis, i am currently launching a campagin of expansion into Africa, (with the exception of Zululand, which is there Soverign teritory) Untill reaching the middle of the continent.
I seek no quarrel with any of the other nations, Our expansion is not an act of hostilities.
uknemesis May 06, 2002, 01:36 PM Das, I suggest a tech advance time for this game. How about 7 days(7 years game time) between each age?
Say, for now we can't have any new advances.
Then in a week we can all move up one industrial level, and thus gain access to more research. The levels going up as you have them, middle medieval to late, then to early industrial, then to middle industrial etc, and you can research one tech per day from that age of Civ 3?
Or instead of advancing tech levels, you can choose for that week to advance the size of your army or the size of your navy both to a maximum of huge.
How does this idea grab you?
And once again, I think that numbers should be implemented for each size, although how they are divided into groups like regiments or divisions can be up to the ruler:
ARMY
Huge: 1,000,000 men
Large: 750,000 men
Medium: 500,000 men
Small: 250,000 men
NAVY
Huge: 100 combat ships total(not including transports)
Large: 75 combat ships total(not including transports)
Medium: 50 combat ships total(not including transports)
Small: 25 combat ships total(not including transports)
These ideas would save time, only having to update the front page every week, and regulate it to stop people rushing on with petrol engines etc.
Please give your opinion on this, Das.
Nemesis
uknemesis May 06, 2002, 02:05 PM TO ALL
FROM NICHOLAS
I intend to colonise the area south of central Russia, unless the Chinese protest, in which case we can divide it equally.
My army is fully equipped at the moment, and stands ready to defend Russia. It has size and power, but it will not enter a war in Europe.
My navy is another matter. It is modern, but small. I don't plan on expanding it though.
Good luck to all nations!
Kushanis May 06, 2002, 03:08 PM This the map we propse
Snaproll May 06, 2002, 03:39 PM The New Republic of California is at hand!
The bonds of our former masters, the British, have been set aside as though made of gossamer twine. The new birth, the ascendency, the awakening has begun.
Our destined ruler, known only as "The Walrus", will lead us to a grand new age in the land of warmth and sun.
Immediately, we lay our claim, as is our manifest destiny, to those lands to the North and East, both for thier great riches in material goods (Gold and Silver in Nevada) and in worldly splendor (The Pacific Northwest).
To the German leader, Karl, we have just overthrown the yoke of the old world! Why would we so quickly align ourslelves against them, mere months after our victory? The stars do not forsee it. Please, take not our refusal as hostile, merely as a token of trancendendant enlightenment.
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The Walrus surveyed the proclamation, and laughed softly. "Lets see them make sense of that, dude!" he remarked to his close advisor, Paul. "Dude," Paul agreed.
SKILORD May 06, 2002, 04:59 PM Irish milliants opened fire in London. They were subued, but Prime minister grace demands british removal from this war. he also says that he has a 'secret weapon' under construction, codenamed "project nemesis"
uknemesis May 06, 2002, 05:07 PM Oy! I should copyright Nemesis! :p
Anyway, why isn't the Russian expansion on that new map?!
Nemesis©(copyrighted, but you can use it for that project, I like being a deadly weapon :p ! But if it turns out to be a toaster, I will sue your ass off :p )
Sixchan May 06, 2002, 05:09 PM Hmm, I'm in a war with three nations.
From: Prime Minister Andrew Stevenson
To: Germany and Egypt
Subj: Make colonies, not War
Gentlemen, why do we bicker so? There are bigger fish to fry in the new world, and there is nothing to gain by a war in Europe! By fighting, we only alow our enemies to grow stronger, and that is not a good thing.
uknemesis May 06, 2002, 05:09 PM Oh, and who likes the ideas I put forward above? Cause if you don't, please say how they are wrong so they can be modified!
And Das please give your judgement on it!
Nemesis©
uknemesis May 06, 2002, 05:14 PM Also, Russia begins to send out explorers to Alaska, South America(Argentina) and New Zealand.
I hope that colones will be set up in those places soon, and the explorers will plant Russia's flag every mile they go. If anyone tries making colonies in the area they lay out, expect war :p
Nemesis
SKILORD May 06, 2002, 05:33 PM Originally posted by Sixchan
Hmm, I'm in a war with three nations.
From: Prime Minister Andrew Stevenson
To: Germany and Egypt
Subj: Make colonies, not War
Gentlemen, why do we bicker so? There are bigger fish to fry in the new world, and there is nothing to gain by a war in Europe! By fighting, we only alow our enemies to grow stronger, and that is not a good thing.
i demanded your with drawl from the war.... have i gotten what i wanted? (i'll leave that to philosophers)
CONRAD May 06, 2002, 05:37 PM I shall take the place of Rome-Gaul.
To: Prime Minister Andrew Stevenson
From: King Louis Pamplemousse XIV
Subj: Colonization
Greetings, friend. We in Rome-Gaul have set our sights on Western Canada, the East Indies and the Ivory coast/Congo region of Africa. Enough with these petty wars, let the people of Europe enjoy the fruits of Mercantilism!
Kefka May 06, 2002, 05:38 PM then I'll take it
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Rome-Gaul and Great Britain
Reason: Egypt-Germany
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As you may know the we are currently at war with our most hated enemy the Germans, but The Germans are not alone in there fight they brung those Egyption's into the fight on me!
I can not continue to fight a two front war, If help is not sent then Greece will cease to exist then germany AND egypt will take over all of us! These are dire times that Europe is going though and I wish I had not needed to make this request of you.
I trust you will honor our MPP as Egypt has Invaded me and If Egypt goes unpunished for this horrific act then the world as we know it will cease to exist and we WILL lose.
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Russia
Reason:The German situation
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War in Europe may not be your buisness, or so you think! but if Europe is taken over by those blood thirsty Germans than your country shall shurly have left the gates open for Invasion!
You can choose to Ignore us and wait for germany to turn on you or you can help us now and possibly gain some german territory. It is one thing to not Involve yourself in fights that don't concern you, but it is quite another to leave your legs open for a kick square in the nuts!
I ask you as one Civilizied country to another please help in the war against Germany the very future of your country may be at risk.
Toasty May 06, 2002, 05:55 PM Srivajaya's King Régua Elevada had ordered for an immediate transfer of citizens from the over-populated city of Jakarta to settle on the islands of Celebes, New Guinea, and some of the lower islands in the Philippines. Transferred in scores of galleons, they found themselves stranded on jungle islands. Some of the citizens from the Sumatran island founded cities along the Mekong river in a province they called Cambodia. A few brave wanderers found themselves on the coast of Northern Australia, as the people of Srivajaya spread outward in the Pacific.
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To: European Powers
From: King Régua Elevada
Subj: Indonesia
I would like to advise to the European powers that they not attempt colonization on the Indonesion islands as they will be inhabited by citizens of Srivajaya. Any attempt made to forcibly take over these islands will be resisted to the last drop of Srivajayan blood. European colonialism is well known and mercantilism will not fester in my kingdom.
To: The Shogun of Japan
From: King Régua Elevada
Subj: Alliance
My dearest shogun, it would seem that it would be in our interests to form a far-Eastern alliance (Pact of the Rising Sun?). If you do choose to ally with my fair kingdom, my nation will commit as much as is possible to ending the revolts in your nation.
To: The Shah of Persia
From: King Régua Elevada
Subj: Peace
Let us reach peace between our two nations. What have we to fight over? There is no point in fighting over spare scraps of islands in the Indian Ocean and we both have better things to do with our time. What do you say to ending this pointless war?
Srivajayan expansion in the South Pacific:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/Expansion1.gif
SKILORD May 06, 2002, 06:19 PM The Irish prime minister, Daniel Grace delivered this speech to his people aimed mostly at Britain.
"A new Era has begun. not an era of the scientific sense but an era of the people. an era of freedom. our great nation and our german allies, lead the world into this new age but alas, there are those who would see freedom abolished and tyrrany reign supreme.
"Our British cousins, so tied to this idea of an Englishman above the rest of them, wish to extinguish the flame of justice that has stirred on our great island. We shall not let them. we shall attack them, much as our brothers, now labeled terrorists already have. and yet my freinds we shalll fear o reprise, for 'all the kings horses and all the kings men' could never take ireland from the determined forces which inhabit it, should they they would have to themselves either an island empty, with not an irish man or woman alive and the island so scarred to be on the verge of sinking. if they took us alive we would work for them no better than would we dead, there is not an irishman alive or to be born that would bow to some fool in London. So you see my freinds, their decision not to offer us peace is at their own peril. What's more i have contacted our freinds across the ocean. Ladies and Gentlemen we are now supporting, with weapons and Supplies, an American Revolution!
Long Live freedom!
Death to Tyrrany!
Maximus12546 May 06, 2002, 08:18 PM Hey i dont see my ISRNE on that map! maybe im too radical for my time. no but seriously, am i not allowed to create my own country? if not, i will choose someone else. this looks like a lot of fun, but i dont really know what im doing, so could someone please explain this?
Toasty May 06, 2002, 08:21 PM There is a thread somewhere on these forums...it should have all the info you need.
In our first NES, a few nations did declare their independence but not right off the bat. I think everyone would perfer it if you picked a country such as Japan or Babylon.
Maximus12546 May 06, 2002, 08:36 PM JAPAN IT IS THEN.....
To: All nations it may concern
From: Shogun Maximus, leader of the great Japanese peoples
My rebel forces, after a 6-month siege, have finally siezed Toyko, and as such i have proclaimed myself the new ruler of Japan. I would request from you that my unorthadox rise to power does not cause you to shun my nation, as i hope there can be peaceful diplomatic relations between all of us.
Japan does not wish to be seen as an agressor, but the japanese people need living space. As such, i have sent a small fleet of colony ships and escorts to the western coast of what is known in english as "Alaska" this terrirtory is far from any civilized nation's claims, and Japan hopes that we will be able to come to an agreement which satisfies both the Japanese people and the world community.
sealman May 06, 2002, 08:40 PM To Prime Minister Stevenson
Fr King Ramses VII
Sir, Unless the English people have declared war upon Egypt, we are not at war. Our current agreement with Germany is against the evil Greeks. While many nations may see us as the aggressors, Greece has been crossing our common boarder at will and have finally learned the leason for those transgressions.
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The Ra and Set divisions of the Egyptian Army file into and capture numerours border towns along the Egyptian and Greek boarders. Three days into the invasion, they are met with the first elements of the Greek counter attack. After 5 days of bitter fighting, the Greeks have managed to retaked a few towns along the coast while the Egyptians begin to fortify their new land acquistions (about 25 square miles). The Egyptian Army is poised to strike further into Greek lands but are holding back for some reason.
VanillaCube May 06, 2002, 11:31 PM Capital City: Saragoza
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Ruler: Jose Cube
Military Strenght: Medium army, small navy
Tech. Level: Late Middle Ages
In War With:
MPPs:
From:Jose Cube of Spain
To:The world
Subj :My colonization of Brazil
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Spain plans to colonizise the land in south America known to the natives as brazil I inform all the other countrys to prevent misunderstandings that could lead to unwanted war.
I also am working on programs that will Increase the size of my navy as small is not good for spain given its current location.
From:Jose Cube of Spain
To:King Ramses VII
Subj:This war with Greece
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Although I offically frown on your war with Greece as I consider you the aggresser I also reconize Greece's part in leading up to this war. I am writing to Inform you that I wish you two could make some kind of deal but I will not get Involed in war despite my objections and current trade status with Greece I only wish nothing but peace bettween both our nations.
uknemesis May 07, 2002, 06:18 AM TO ALL EUROPEAN LEADERS
I may not be involved in the wars, but I want peace! Egypt and Germany, if you move anywhere near Athens, I will be forced to intervene on Greece's behalf, as I do not want to see such an historic city damaged. As you may well know, my ancestors once ruled Greece, and I am determined that nation wil survive.
To all those at war, I urge you to make peace now. If you do not, I may be influenced by your unwillingness to want peace to join the other side. Britain seems to want peace, and currently I am in full support of their cause, but not with armed force. But this is a warning to Germany and her allies, begin to make peace with Britain or suffer the consequences. If peace has not been made in six hours time, Russia will stop supplying Germany with oil and any other trade we do with you, and all of your allies. If there is not peace by this time tomorrow, there will be war between our two nations as I struggle to bring peace to Europe.
Britain and her allies will not receive any of these punishments as they have tried to make peace, but if they refuse a fair peace deal, they will suffer the same terms.
Nicholas of Russia
Maximus12546 May 07, 2002, 07:16 AM To: King Régua Elevada of Srivajaya
From: Shogun Maximus of Japan
Your proposition of a "pact of the rising sun" pleases me greatly. I think such a pact would be beneficial in ensuring the continued sovreignity of the pacific peoples. I accept. I would very much like if you weould allow a few of my colonists to creat a small community on the eastern tip of new guinea, to act as Japan's base of operations in Oceania. For my part, the massive oil reserves i am pumping from alaska could easily be shared.
To: Nicholas of Russia
From: Shogun Maximus of Japan
I regret to inform you that Japan's settlers have already moved into alaska. But as japan is a reasonable nation, we might be able to agree to something (slpit the terrirtory above a certain latatude line perhaps?) as long as you are willing to go about these dicusions peacefully and do not attempt to resort to voilence to gain these territories.
Kushanis May 07, 2002, 09:24 AM After a few weeks, Madagasgar mobilization was complete, as was the colinization of there territories, the new provinces were named the following
Swaziland
Boilland
and Ethina
[OOC: Map along the way as well, just to get the idea.]
das May 07, 2002, 09:53 AM Kushanis, your nation has been backward for a lot of time, that's 1. No one can colonize such as wast land in a year, that's 2.
To Everyone:
A) I can only go online at 18:00, so don't rush me. Capish?:)
B) A lot of people here are moving too fast... Really, Australia wasn't pretty much discovered yet. And what is it with the SECRET PROJECTS?
das May 07, 2002, 09:55 AM Oh, and Srivajaya was greatest sea empire in Indonesia during the middle ages.
das May 07, 2002, 10:11 AM To Great Britain: We are fighting because that you want to restore those bloodthirsty Hohenzolers in Free, Republican Germany. They were killing thousands of innocent people with no reason! So if you give us all of the Hohenzolers to Der Guilt, and recognize California's and Ireland's independence, and force you reactioanry friends to leave Repulic of Germany alone.
To California: We understand your politics, and we agree that should Free Germany die, some republics must survive.
TOP SECRET PART:
We will startforming a safe way through the Atlantic to Los Angeles and San Francisco. We know tht it is risky, so we want your approval first.
To Russia: We will stop thje war against Greeks, if they recognize the Republic of Germany, and give us all the Hohenzolers to Der Guilt. Plus, we thought that you learned from Basuka, that our army is far stronger then yours, and if you ago to war agaisnt us, then you didn't learned anything.
To Ireland: TOP SECRET: We suggest that to help you, we will send German Expiditionary Division (GED) to Ireland.
To Egypt: TOP SECRET: We need to dicuss our war strategy against Greece. What is your plan?
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Hermann was tired but happy. Happy, because that his plan has worked. California has not accepted the offer, thus California has betrayed the republican cause, thus he won his round agaisnt congress, thus he has a HUGE argument against them on the next meeting - a metting on who decides the military questions, congress or Kriegkouncil.
uknemesis May 07, 2002, 10:13 AM TO SHOGUN MAXIMUS
The Alaskan exploration was the smallest of all the groups, so I have recalled them. In return I just ask for good relations between our nations since Alaska is so close to Eastern Siberia.
Perhaps a Mutual Protection Pact, which only applies in the Pacific would do both of us good? Ie; my Pacific Fleet and Army would help you in any war with say China, but you wouldn't have to get involved in European wars.
How does this sound?
Nicholas
uknemesis May 07, 2002, 10:27 AM Don't threaten me, Shultz. You may have beaten the Russian Army under my father, but now we are the same size as you, and just as modern. I have brought Russia back up to date with you European powers, and expect trouble if you try anything.
I was trying to encourage peace, as another huge army against you could tip the balance.
Anyway, I will now keep out of your diplomatic negotiations, but remember this, if you attack Athens, or cross the English Channel and invade Britain, I will attack you.
Also, I am launching a trade embargo against Ireland and California. I don't do deals with rogue states, and as Germany is supporting you, I will embargo them as well.
One final thing, how is the GEF going to get across the Channel with the Royal Navy there?!
SKILORD May 07, 2002, 10:32 AM We Irish have gotten around the Royal Fleet for years, our blockade Runners are masterful, getting them here is no problem.
das May 07, 2002, 10:57 AM Geberstein has just found it. His scouts have returned, or at least 3 of those 20 brave men. But thsoe three have returned with the information, that will turn the world's history all around.
Zugurha! Hungarian Republican leader, has been forming a huge network, ready to go to uprising, as soon as the chance is here!
Imperial Pass! A small area in the Carphatian mountains that isn't guarded well enough by Greek troops, and Germans can move into Hungary, meet with Zugurkha and his rebels, and Greeks will how to leave Germany alone.
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Invasion of Hungary was on. Quickly, Imperial Pass was captured, and thousands of German trops have poured into Hungary...
das May 07, 2002, 11:02 AM And about the GED: we will send it the OTHER WAY!
SKILORD May 07, 2002, 11:02 AM Irish Troops blew up a Courthouse in York. PM Grace threatens more if peace doesn't ensue.
No-one was in the courthouse.
Kushanis May 07, 2002, 11:33 AM [OOC - Das - Your right, dunno what i was thinking with all that land, *shrug* must be the caffene. Disregard my last post and reinstate this one, and BTW before the French colionized Madagascar, they did have much of there culture on the shore.]
Maximus12546 May 07, 2002, 11:38 AM To Nicholas
From: Shogun Maximus
A pacific mutual protection pact would be most agreeable, but know that if you enter into this, i would ask that you be aware that i also have responsibilities to my other pacific ally, the empire of Srivajaya. As Russia has a major precence in the pacific theather, i would ask that you great nation become part of the alliance of the rising sun, which include japan and Srivajaya. Together we can all rule the pacific ocean peacefully.
Sixchan May 07, 2002, 11:47 AM From: Prime Minister Stevenson
To: Prime Minister Grace
Subj: Ireland
We are willing to grant your sovereignty, provided that if the bid for peace fails, you will cut trade in weapons and military aid to and from Ireland.
Sixchan May 07, 2002, 12:01 PM From: Prime Minister Stevenson
To: California
Subj: Truce?
While we do not recognise you as a state, we are willing to call a truce and not attack you due to your distance. This Mohawk Confederation is my main concern presently.
From: Prime Minister Stevenson
To: Germany
Subj: Recognition
I have more important things to think about than your politics, and I will be writing to my allies asking that they give you recognition too.
From: Prime Minister Stevenson
To: Rome-Gaul and Greece
Subj: Germany
As I have said before, colonisation of the new world should be our main concern. I say, let the Germans have their silly little land, and be done with it!
Their land is worthless, and the only useful resource we could ever get from there is some measly cows and a few grains of wheat!
Give them their recognition, and they will trouble us no more. As we speak, California is expanding to the west to claim North America, and Spain will be making plans to take the southern continent! Time is short, and petty squabbles are wasteful!
SKILORD May 07, 2002, 03:08 PM To Britain:
It can be done. You have a deal.
Terrorism on The British islands ends abruptly. Ireland asks their ally Germany to end the war between themselves and Britain.
The First Irish settlers have disembarked in Africa! President Grace supports heavy childbearing, to make his nation a colonial power.
Kefka May 07, 2002, 07:52 PM From:Kefka
To:Nicholas
Reason:Thank you
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Russia I Kefka thank you for making a wise choice and standing up to Germany on my behalf. I will reconize the German's as a country as long as war can be avoided.
From:Kefka of Greece
To:Prime Minister Stevenson
Reason:Germany-Egypt
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I read your request for Germany and I accept it, as it is perferable to me, rather than fighting a two front war.
I will reconize Germany as a country and hope our MPP will still stand and be honored if Egypt Invades me.
From:Kefka of Greece
To:Germany
Reason:This Insanity must end!
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This war can not be allowed to continue I Reconize Germany as a nation, I await your reply whatever it may be. I truly hope for peace.
From:Kefka of Greece
To:Egypt
Reason:Our Conflicts
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Our Countrys are not at such an odd that we can't compromise I look at this world and think that you have no reason to fight me. We may have some problems but they can be hammered out in some deals can they not?
Please send me a reply back and let our two countrys work this out.
VanillaCube May 07, 2002, 09:04 PM After many months of travaling over the sea JoseCubes fleet finally arrive at there destination explorers search out the land There is little to none Native resistance and the explorers of spain claim as much land as possible.
"This is trully great" remarked JoseCube upon hearing the news of Spains recent addition.
"Now we must settle it and ensure that this newly accuired land will be ours now and forever"
So now the settling of the spanish claimed lands begain. transports of settlers begain to be sent there.
CONRAD May 07, 2002, 09:31 PM King Loius Pamplemousse XIV sent out his brave men to the interior coast area of Africa, and upon going there, they found a great supply of Ivory, Gems, and Labour. They called this area the "Ivory coast". Mounds of settlers were soon to be sent.
sealman May 07, 2002, 10:06 PM To: Nicolas of Russia
Re: Eqypt's Current Conflict w/ Greece
We are disturbed by your decision to come to the aid of Greece should our troops approach Athens. Egyptian soverignty has been breached time and time again by Greek forces. Greek forces have crossed the border and raided Egyptian towns for ages, sometimes with and sometimes without, approval from Athens (OCC: just thowing in some old History).
We have no desire to destroy Athens or the Greek culture, we just wish for these incursions to stop. Egypt must retain her independence. Currently, talks are underway between Alexandria and Athens regarding peace.
Also, while our ally, Germany, is also at war with Britain, Egypt has never fired a shot in anger or declared war. If war exists between Britain and Egypt, we have not yet recieved a declaration of war, thus any military acts perpetrated on Egypt byb Britain and her other allies can only be seen as an act of terrorism.
Once Greece entered into their MPP with Britain, all Egyptian advances stopped.
King Ramses VII of Egypt.
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To: Prime Minister Stevenson
Re: MPP between Greece and Britain
Prime Minister,
While it is against the desires of Egypt to influence the diplomatic relations of other nations, we are disturbed by this pact with Greece.
A state of war exisited between Egypt and Greece prior to the signing of your defensive pact. Since you have signed it, the Egyptian Armies, currently operating in Greece, have ceased their advances.
Egypt does not wish war with Britain, despite her current difficulties with Germany.
King Ramses VII of Egypt
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A small fleet of Egyptians ships have left the Moroccan coast and are currently sailing towards the Southern tip of South America in the hopes of establishing colonies there.
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Egypt has moved south into the Saraha Desert and have claimed control over any and all oasis that have been discovered. Settlements have also been claimed on the southern side of the desert, thus claiming the whole region for Egypt.
wilboman May 08, 2002, 09:24 AM Tired of the British imposing unfair taxes, and seeing their chance to break free now that Britain was fighting several wars at once, the thirteen colonies of the eastern american seaboard break free under the leadership of George Washington.
That's right! Set up a new nation! Small navy, medium army, maybe?
His first move was to extend relations to Ireland:
To the great PM Grace of Ireland
We seem to be in the same boat. I suggest we set up close relations in the future. What say you?
SKILORD May 08, 2002, 09:33 AM I support the American Revolt i am sure that california will do likewise. I cannot send guns because of the Agreement between the British and mysewlf, were project Nemesis Finished i'd declare war but it's a ways off
das May 08, 2002, 09:40 AM Article 1: We Promise To Sign Peace with Great Britain and Rome-Gaul, as soon as they give us all the members of Hohenzoler dynasty to be trialed in Berlin.
Article 2: We Promise to Sign Peace with Greece, as soon as they give equal rights to Hungarians and Greeks, stop incursions into Egyptian territory, and establish direct control (or let Egyptians do so) over the border between Greece and Egypt, so no incursions - controlled by Athens or not - WILL STOP.
Article 3: You will try to negotiate peace with Thirteen Colonies, that will be fair.
Article 4: Until Our Condititions Are Met, We Will Continue our advance against Greeks in Hungary and Adriatic.
SKILORD May 08, 2002, 09:45 AM Irish Claims in Africa:
das May 08, 2002, 10:06 AM Chancellor Hermann was proud. German Revolution was finally recognized! Now, he could get back on track. Now, to sign the peace treaty, and in case that it won't work...
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Admiral Hans was leading Adriatic Fleet, of 3 galleons, 2 frigates, and 1 flagship. Greek Fleet was just ahead... The battle has begun...
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General Karl and Zugurha were probabvly at the last battle of the war. Buda and Pest were just ahead. Bridge across teh Danube was under Greek control. Pest was mainly loyalsit, while in Buda, a rebllion has already started.
"Charge!!!"
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...Admiral Hans will establish a pernament supply loine to Alexandria, and then will move on to take over Greek island pocessions....
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Battle at Pest has begun, as the bridges between two cities were falling from side to side during 2 months. The battle was bloody, adn no oen was abel to win anything during that long period...
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Much of the Greek fleet was destroyed, thanks to the three German ships that have managed to sink Greek flagship. But much of Adriatic fleet was also destroyed, and only 1 galleon, 1 caravel and 1 flagship have survived. But Greeks will have to retreat, while the Germans will soon two new frigates and one new galleon - Venetians were masterful shipbuilders, and their naval facilities were fast enough to do taht - even exhausting half of the whole treasury. The battle of Corfu has broke the Greek blockade, and even as both sides have great anval facilities, Germans have won more then lost...
das May 08, 2002, 10:22 AM Congressman Wilhelm Gaushch was appointed to lead a colonization expedition to South Africa...
uknemesis May 08, 2002, 10:26 AM TO THE THIRTEEN COLONIES
I, Nicholas, will never recognise you as a nation. You are nothing but rebellious scum, the kind that are the bane of fair and just rulers such as myself.
Therefore do not expect any Russian aid.
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TO SCHULTZ
I am extremely angry about not only your attack on the Greek Adriatic Fleet, but also your demands upon Greece to change government.
In my eyes no one tells rulers of nations how to govern their country, so I think you should reduce your demands to fair recognition of all cultures within Greece possibly via a citizen's group that could advise Kefka, but leave him in ultimate control of Greece. I agree with tightened security on the border with Egypt, but this must go both ways.
But ultimately the decision is Kefka's.
Oh, and I warn you, Russia rents out a military and naval base on one end of Crete from Greece, and if there is an invasion of that island, it will be considered an act of aggression against Russia.
You have been warned, so please don't cause more trouble.
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TO BRITAIN, GREECE AND GAUL
Once this war is over, to stop such an event happening again, I will happily join your alliance, if you will let me.
Alexander
uknemesis May 08, 2002, 10:34 AM Oh, and can someone please add Russia's expansion in South America(Argentina) and New Zealand to the map? Thanks!
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New Zealand had been inhabited by a vicious tribe known as the Maoris. It had taken a huge land battle to defeat them and eventually destroy their civilisation. They were too out of date to have cause many casualties, thank god, Nicholas thought.
In South America they had landed Buenos Aires to the locals. They were friendly, and didn't mind the Russians.
And now Russian expansion into Kazakhstan was going well, the huge number of colonists making it a viable production area.
But then he had given the order to stop the expansion there, as they had come close to a country known as Afghanistan, famed for its independence and civil wars.
There would be no point entering a place to be destroyed by guerrilas, Nicholas determined.
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Kushanis May 08, 2002, 10:38 AM **************************************************
King Kushanis was worried.
His scouts and allied tribes to the north had reported landings by strange nations..
He was pondering the matter carefully, weither these strangers were friend or foe.
Prehaps he should meet them...
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das May 08, 2002, 11:16 AM After 9 months of voyage, the Germans have finally arrived to South Africa. They've established the city of Deutshkolonien (Cape Town). Mainly, the Germans were lucky - weather was on their side...
Kefka May 08, 2002, 05:12 PM A CEASE FIRE WAS ISSUED BETWEEN EGYPT AND GREECE. The two leaders are meeting to hammer out a deal that will benifit both nations. (PM's) The world will be updated soon as to the results of those mettings.
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Chancellor Hermann Shultz
Reason:Your Demands
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I currently have a list of your demands they seem to be as followed:
Article 1: We Promise To Sign Peace with Great Britain and Rome-Gaul, as soon as they give us all the members of Hohenzoler dynasty to be trialed in Berlin.
Article 2: We Promise to Sign Peace with Greece, as soon as they transform to a dual monarchy, giving equal freedoms between Hungarians and Greeks, stop incursions into Egyptian territory, and establish direct control (or let Egyptians do so) over the border between Greece and Egypt, so no incursions - controlled by Athens or not - WILL STOP.
Article 3: You will try to negotiate peace with Thirteen Colonies, that will be fair.
Article 4: Until Our Condititions Are Met, We Will Continue our advance agaisnt Greeks in Hungary and Adriatic.
While we have currently gotten a cease fire aggrement bettween Egypt and Greece, and have worked out some disputes bettween our two countrys and game to some agreements such as a Mutual DeMilitarized zone bettween our borders and there aggreement to withdraw troops from my territorry.
but your demand to change my Government! THERE IS NO WAY GREECE WILL AGREE TO THAT! You wan't me to willfully give up my posision in my own country. who is Germany to decide what the Government of Greece should be?
I advice you leave that part out, as all your other demands are quite accemptible on my part. I ask of you to remove your troops and forget any land you belive you may have taken.
The Security of my nation and my people are at risk by your nation, and I will fight to the last Greece soldier to defend my country.
You can fight a long war on three fronts or you can make peace right now, the choice is yours.
uknemesis May 08, 2002, 05:28 PM I agree with Kefka. Germany cannot dictate to Greece how it should be governed. I have said this once, and I will say it again.
But I will also add this in an attempt to gain peace. If you do not drop this from your peace demands, and so force the war to drag on, then I will enter on the side of Greece.
I hope that others will support me in this to make sure that you make peace with Greece on terms that are agreeable, not unfair ones like a change of government.
Nicholas
Jason The King May 08, 2002, 09:05 PM "Grand Inca, we have finally gained full control over our empire. I congratulate you, Inca. May your rule be long and prosperous! I hope that you have knowledge of foriegners, white people, that have landed on our glorius continent, not yet settled by our people!"
"What? Send diplomats to these poeples, I want all them to know that the majority of this continent will be controlled by our people! Explain to them that we grant them that territory, but be weary of deeper ecploration into the jungles."
"yes sir"
"oh, and also begin to build our army and Naval strength. First start with our Army. I want you to bargain with these settlers for land in order for them to teach us about modern military fighting, but do not mettle with their affairs. I would like to stay secluded for now. Start to train our military and may it grow! We will begin our Navy later. Now leave!"
To: Colonists of the Glorius Continent of the Incas
From: Inca
Sbj: Colonization
Hello, great nations! I am Inca, ruler of my people. As we are mostly mountain people, I would like you to know of our plans to expand, very rapidly, into the jungles and plains of the fair continent, and ask of you to hault most of your expansions. I would not like border disputes between our people. And I also ask you not to mention us to other world nations, as we will like to stay secluded form the world! I also ask, in return I grant you land needent you only ask of location, to train one or two of my generals in the arts of military fighting of the modern world. My people are not as advanced, and would only like a way of defending myself from the expansionist and militaristc neighbors of Aztlan. Thank you, and may your land grant you many fortunes. P.S. I also have many recourses to grant you in return that you do not spread your culture!
P.S. Inca was the address of the ruler of the Incas, such as King to Monarchy. Also, the Inca culture rapidly expands north, south and east.
SKILORD May 09, 2002, 01:30 AM The Irish send Generals to assist the Incans. heavens know we can't spare 'em but we can't help out America, god bless 'em, so we send generals and guns, we are interested in opening trade.
wilboman May 09, 2002, 05:54 AM Wahington wasn't quite sure about how the English would react to his rebellion, but for the time being he was lying low. It was good to see that various nations were already granting recognition, but he was saddened by the fact that some nations refused to acknowledge him at all. He would just have to hope and pray for his country.
For the time being, he sent envoys to the nations he was already sharing the continent with, hoping for an alliance that would make them all stronger, a sort of United States of America.
To all nations with a claim in North America
I believe that the only way we may prosper is if we all recognize each other, trade with eachother, and treat eachother as equals. We must also broker a deal for the division of the uncolonized areas of our continent, so as to avoid war and unrest about land.
To the British PM
We now only wish to be left alone. You have forced us to take drastic ation, due to the fact that you used our taxes to support your wars, as well as refusing us a say in the matter at all. We had no seas in your parliament, and thus cannot really have been a part of your nation in the first place...
OCC: If anyone is pissed off about me starting a new state so early, I basically wanted to do it before some superpatriotic, unrealistic person did it instead. This way I can guide the path of the American States in a more realistic, downbeat direction...
Snaproll May 09, 2002, 09:26 AM The Walrus slumped on his seat. "Dude! Why don't these guys just relax dude? All this scheming, dealing. Dude!"
"Dude..." his advisor agreed.
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To Germany:
Re: Canal
TOP SECRET EYES ONLY
This canal is an excellent plan. Our currently meager Navy will assist in the protection of such an endeavor, although our people are still to involved in the taming of the north American wild lands to assist with the construction at this time. What do you say we agree to split the shipping tax revenue generated by say, oh, 50/50?
To: Russia - uknemesis
Re: embargo
Your embargo is worrisome. Such a bold and obviously counter-intuitive move, considering the wonders and splendors our new state will provide the world. Your loss. Let us hope that things do not escalate.
To: Sixchan
Re: Truce
A truce is amenable to the peaceful Californian people.
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The intrepid explorer known only as "The Dude" surveyed the map. His perseverance and fortitude stood above the rest of his new countrymen, who languished in their new freedom in the prosperous Californian cites, especially in the capital, San Francisco. His efforts however, have pushed the Californian borders well into the Rocky Mountains and the warmer lands south. Indeed, the uncolonized wilderness was harsh, but exceedingly beautiful, and made worthy additions to the Californian empire, and would soon be annexed. He only hoped the Mohawks remained dormant. In a final summation of his extraordinary achievements, he exclaimed one word, "Dude!"
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Out of Character:
Leader name: The Walrus
Capital city: San Francisco
Please update the map to include my initial push into Nevada, Arizona, and Oregon.
das May 09, 2002, 09:46 AM To Greece: "Okay, we take our demand of Dual Monarchy back, if you give an autonomy or at least equalize rights of Hungarian and Greek populations. Also, I merely suggest that Zugurha and his officers will not be arrested, and if not allowed to stay in Greek territory, then let them for to Vienna. I also ask you never to support any ROYALIST movements in Germany again."
To Russia: "I guess that we could cooperate, if you enver support any royalist movements in Germany. We rebelled back then in 1781 never to loose our freedoms again!"
To California (TOP SECRET): "I agree to build the canal in Baja."
To Thirty Colony: "We recognize your nation, because that your republican ideas are close to ours!"
To Ireland: "Right now, I think that peace is better then war, if your indepndence is secure."
das May 09, 2002, 09:51 AM So, are we agreed on peace treaty?
SKILORD May 09, 2002, 10:08 AM Germany: I've already made peace.
das May 09, 2002, 10:40 AM But you've decided not to in the end, or am I mistaking?
SKILORD May 09, 2002, 10:45 AM you are mistaken
das May 09, 2002, 11:07 AM Okay!
sealman May 09, 2002, 12:16 PM To: Germany and Greece
Re: Current Conflict
Respected Leaders:
I believe that our three nations are in agreement over the ending of hostilities in this current conflict. As soon as all three nations sign the treaty, Egyptian troops will relinquish control over their Greek possessions and retreat past the de-militarized zone.
King Ramses VII of Egypt
wilboman May 09, 2002, 03:29 PM The American Settlers had landed on the African coast. Nestled between the Irish colonies and the Roman Provinces, they founded the colonies of Liberia, with the Capital Monrovia, Guinea, with Conakry, and Sierra Leone, with Freetown. He also extended his colonies as far inland as the meeting of the rivers of Niger and Bani, and at the sources of the river Volta. There his settlers founded trading posts, so they could utilise the rivers, and also lie only a short distance from the Bedouin traders of the Sahara desert.
At the same time, his military had seized all the lands between the British colonies in Canada and the Mohawk Confederation, right up to Hudson Bay.
He also looked at the South American Jungles with interest, but that would have to wait for another year...
Kefka May 09, 2002, 04:57 PM Originally posted by das
To Greece: "Okay, we take our demand of Dual Monarchy back, if you give an autonomy or at least equalize rights of Hungarian and Greek populations. Also, I merely suggest that Zugurha and his officers will not be arrested, and if not allowed to stay in Greek territory, then let them for to Vienna. I also ask you never to support any ROYALIST movements in Germany again."
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Germany
Reason:your most wise decision
Now that your demands are more resonable I will accept those demands and sign a peace treaty.
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Egypt and Germany
Reason:Egypt-Greece-Germany truce.
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I have worked out a dual treaty that I propose to both of you and all three of us must sign it! I have already signed it and in order for this to go in to affect all three of us must sign it and agree to the term's made here.
1) Egypt will move her armies out of Greek lands and relinquish any gains they have made there.
2)Germany will move her armies out of Greek lands and relinquish any gains they have made there.
3) Greece will remove all troops currently operating in Egypt
4) Egypt and Greece will agree to a de-militarized zone of 5 miles along there land boarders.
5)Greece will recognizes Germany
6)Greece will not support a ROYALIST movements in Germany
7)Germany will not Invade Greece in an attempt to create a hungarian uprising again.
8)The Zugurha officers will be realeased to Vienna and be forever banished from Greece.
9)From five month after the signing of this tready the Hungarians Serfs in Greece will be raised to the same political level as the Greek Serfs.
10)Germany must pay 50 gold (keeping it civish) to Greece in war repremandments to help pay for the gold that Greece will lose when having to give all those pay raises to the Hungarians, as a rise to the same level as the Greeks makes them reconized under the minimum wage act. And for Greece to begin to rebuild what was destroyed during the war.
11)Greece will reconize the Thirteen Colonies.
12)Greece will reconize Ireland.
13)All nations that sign this treaty will make peace with one another and attempt to avoid another war.
King Kefka of Greece
uknemesis May 09, 2002, 05:17 PM Due to peace breaking out everywhere, I now lift my trade restrictions on everyone.
To Japan, I would be honoured to join the Pact of the Rising Sun, so long as you'll have me!
As Britain no longer seems to worry about the Empire splitting, I will now recognise California, America and Ireland.
I hope to begin trade with these peoples soon, and normalise relations with them as I now consider them nations.
This change of heart is due to lack of communication from Europe, they don't seem to care, so neither do I.
Also, it's a great way to counter enemy expansion :p
Nicholas
das May 10, 2002, 10:04 AM Signed: Hermann Shultz.
das May 10, 2002, 10:13 AM Oh, and we don't want recognition of our independence. We want recognition of our new government!
Dexter May 10, 2002, 10:27 AM I would love to join this game as the Chinesse.
Leader: General Shang Tung
After years of civil dispute Shang Tung has risen to power over the great state of China.
Announcement:
Announcer: All Hail General Tung!
General Tung: People of China, today I have restored China to an oderly country! You may gain pride from your great countries achievements once more!
China shall be returned to it's rightful throne as the greatest nation in the world. All those who oppose shall be killed without mercy! All hail China, all hail Tung!!!
To: Nations of the world
From: General Tung
Subj: New Ruler
Nations of the world, I am General Tung the new ruler of the People's China. I would like to introduce to you my views on China's current world status.
As you well know China has been like a headless chicken the past decade, but today I have assumed complete control.
I intend to re-develop China's army to a modern position, I intend to remain at peace with all nation's who are prepared to co-operate. For after-all peace is the only way we can expand.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
End Message
das May 10, 2002, 10:35 AM "Finally, the war is over, and I hope that they won't EVER amass against us again. After all, last 16 years we fought to fortify our republic... Now, I can get back to Vienna!"
"Yes, Geberstein, and therem we can go back to the simple lives again!"
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"Well, Shultz, it's time for your speech!"
"I know it's time for the speech. Now have took care of the guard?"
"Yes sire Chancellor!"
"Good!"
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"...So now, in the time of peace, I promise that our country shall rise by economical, political and colonial means, so Germa-"
Suddenly, a bullet of an assasin has ended Hermann Shultz's life. Everybody were shocked. But who will lead the country now? And who hired the assasin?
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"Well," said Kaiser Wilhelm - "Now I will persuade my British hosts to invade Germany, defeat the republicans, and I shall return to power! Now are you sure that assasin will do his job well?"
"Yes, I am sure!"
SKILORD May 10, 2002, 10:40 AM Ireland extends a freindly hand to China. :goodjob:
uknemesis May 10, 2002, 10:54 AM Russia is glad our southern neighbour is finally restored to the power it should be.
I propose that we sign a mutual protection pact and increase trade so that together we can dominate Asia politically and industrially.
Plus by war if ever needed.
Nicholas of the Russians
das May 10, 2002, 11:06 AM "I believe we could work in cooperation in Africa. I would like to know your opinion on the border which is needed to be established between German South Africa and Madagascarian Empire. So what is your suggestion?" - Wilhelm Gausch, Governor of German South Africa and Congressman of Deutsch Kongress to Great Kushanis, Emperor of Madagascarian Empire.
Dexter May 10, 2002, 11:10 AM Actions
I would like to seperate my country into five manageable regions each guarded by sections of the army.
North China: Managed by First General Shu-Ping and his 100,000 strong force of troops.
South China: Managed by First General Ming-Lao and his 100,000 strong force of troops.
East China: Managed by Supreme General Shang Tung and 400,000 troops.
West China: Managed by First General Hwang Tung and 100,000 troops.
I would like to send a 50,000 strong force lead by the honorable Second General Linh-Po along with settler's to South Africa to colonise the continent.
Negotiation:
To: Ireland
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
We accept your offer of eternal friendship and peace. I hope that we may discuss such things as trade at some time, we would love to gain your knowledge of firearms. In return China can offer you it's many experienced General's learned in the art of Sun Tzu.
I await youir wise reply.
All hail China, all hail Tung!!
To: Russia
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Your are by far our most powerful neighbour, we respect that and would greatly appreciate your co-operation in keeping peace between our two great nations. So we accept your protection pact and hope that you shall help us increase our millitary knowledge so that we may together control Asia.
All hail China, all hail Tung!!
End Messages
uknemesis May 10, 2002, 11:41 AM RUSSIAN MILITARY TABLE OF ORGANISATION [TOP SECRET]
NAVAL STRENGTH
Pacific Fleet: 8 ships BASED AT: Vladivostok
Atlantic Fleet: 9 ships BASED AT: Oslo and Archangel(5:4)
Black Sea Fleet: 5 ships BASED AT: Odessa
Baltic Sea Fleet: 3 ships BASED AT: Riga
ARMY STRENGTH
Western Military Zone: 750,000 men BASED AT: Minsk
Northern Military Zone: 100,000 men BASED AT: Stockholm
Eastern Military Zone: 50,000 men BASED AT: Yakutsk
Southern Military Zone: 100,000 men BASED AT: Volgograd
TO CHINA
Russia would be glad to conduct training exercises with you inside the Russian border with China, perhaps near Chita, or in the unexplored region to the south of Russia and to the east of you. This will give both my Eastern Army and your army some proper training.
Also we would be pleased to dispatch a squadron of three ships from our Pacific Fleet to help train your navy.
And we are glad to have your friendship!
Nicholas
Dexter May 10, 2002, 11:58 AM To: Russia
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Then it is agreed we shall send troops across and begin training immediatly. And I'm sure my Generals shall be able to teach you something also with their supreme knowledge in the arts of Sun Tzu!
All hail China, all hail Tung!
P.S. My last post for the day:D
sealman May 10, 2002, 12:30 PM King Ramses VII
King of Upper and Lower Egypt
--assume signature and royal cartouche
Jimjam Jones May 10, 2002, 12:36 PM Mohawk Confederation:
Capital City: Mohawk
Government: Tribalism (now formed into a Republic)
Ruler:
Military Strenght: Large (but primitive) army and no navy
Tech. Level: Early Middle Ages
In War With: -
MPPs: -
A wave of excitement has gripped the Mohawk Confederation. A strong chieftain named Powhatana has risen to power over the Mohawk people. He has been named High Chief, supported by the National Mohawk Senate (each tribe in the Confederation has its own representative). This new system forms a new Republic.
Powhatana adresses his audience in the Senate:
'Today marks the beginning of a new Mohawk government. Working as leader of the New Republic I plan to tie in a tremendous expansion to the west and north combined with new strides forward in science and the arts.
We are still a backward nation, and I call out to our much respected neighbours to the east, the Thirteen Colonies, for co-operation and mutual support, because I believe that together we can form a force to be reckoned with.
I request to the government of the Thirteen Colonies, and that of the British Empire, that the Mohawks be allowed to expand to an extent into Canada. Perhaps we can make a deal about land division between the three of us?'
Powhatana begins to plan expansion westwards towards the great Rocky Mountains.
Hail High Chief Powhatana!
Trickey May 10, 2002, 01:13 PM sounds cool
wilboman May 10, 2002, 02:32 PM To the glorious leader Powhatana of the Mohawk Confederation
I'm very willing to share the continent with you, and take an extremely positive view to establishing close relations with the rest of the North American nations, aiming to form an alliance that may counter the power of our european brethren. I hereby forthwith extend an invitation to you, Powhatana of the Mohawk Confederation, to join me in this pursuit. A positive response from you may convince my people to allow me to share our discoveries with your powerful, but sadly deprived (technologically) nation.
You will notice, by the way, that there are american holdings between you and the British all the way up to Hudson bay. These are the new American States of Maine and Quebec.
VanillaCube May 10, 2002, 04:20 PM To:The World
Subj:Spain's Brazil
From:Jose Cube
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Recently Spain has has expanded there Brazil Colony to the south-east.
our current takiing of the land is going fairly well and we wish to expand the size of our colony. As of now it is still rather unihabited and more settlers are being sent there. We currently can't seem to dwelve into the Interior of South America as the thick jungle is preventing us but hear this World we will explore further and claim more land in the jungle just as soon as our colony begains to florish, we already have found A some good resorces and I plan on making those colonys specilize in Coffee.
We can't produce Coffee on a large scale untill at least two years as we need a bigger a Navy to protect the shipments and a more stable Brazil.
We would like to hear from any country that would be Intrested in trading for this great Commodity which is Coffee cause once Brazil is fully up and running they should be able to make Coffee cheaper and quicker.
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In about a half a years time spains Navy should be considered Medium sized thank you
SKILORD May 10, 2002, 08:24 PM Ireland is interested spain
Jason The King May 10, 2002, 08:27 PM "Sir, the Spanish have not recognized us as a legitimite nation!"
"Ok, how is our army training doing with the irish general?"
"It's doing great, your magesty. We have two fully-ready divisions."
"That's great! Ready our divisions, and get on defensive stance. We will definetly expand rapidly. How's our empire doing?
"We have comleted a map of our territoy."
"great"
Xtreamskier27 May 10, 2002, 10:20 PM das i have read all the post even your new rules and i agree to follow them
The eskimos were woried that they might be taken over by another country. So all the tribes decided to become a small government. It currently is only there to protect the eskimos from invasions from other countries. But they deciced to start a real government so they decided to become what the world called a democurracy. All the leaders of the tribes will meet once a month to discus the issues of the nation. At the first such meeting they decided to call this nation Canada but the people would like to be called eskimos.
TO ALL NATIONS
I would like to start trade with all nations of North America the only thing I have to trade is beaver skins though.
to das please tell me how strong my navy and army are so that i may follow the rules thank u
PS Im brite green on the map
Dexter May 11, 2002, 03:50 AM Action:
With the training of some divisions of the army complete I would like to send 50,000 troops along with settler's to colonise the lands west of China as proposed below. I would also like to send 1,000 troops and settler's to colonise Taiwan. Further more I want 60,000 troops to enter Alaska and claim it for China. I have a feeling this territory shall prove invaluable in the future.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
Dexter May 11, 2002, 04:14 AM To: Nicholas of the Russians
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Technology
Nicholas, we have recently noticed a slight gap between or nations in technology. Your great nation seems to have knowledge in industry and we would love to gain such knowledge.
Proposed Trade: Your technology of Industry to help China enter the Early Industrial ages. In exchange we shall send you 100 gold as a gift to your magnifigance.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
Jimjam Jones May 11, 2002, 04:19 AM From: Powhatana of the Mohawk Confederation
To: George Washington, Leader of the Thirteen Colonies
North American Alliance
Sir, the mighty Mohawk Confederation humbly accepts your offer of forming a friendship between our two great nations. I know that together we can strenghten and expand our cultures and influence over this continent peacefully.
Powhatana, leader of the Mohawks, recognises and approves of your expansion northwards, and as we speak, we too have settled westwards into an area in the south known as Oklahoma, and have formed farming villages there, to provide food for our growing population.
We await further news from you.
das May 11, 2002, 05:31 AM 7th Workensh (28th November), the national mourning day - he day, on which an assasin has killed a great man: Hermann Shultz. Our great country will probably fall, unless an action will soon be taken... We see a huge insult from the countries around the world, since no one seems to notice the death of a great man. Even Irish still haven't said anything. But Chancellor is dead...
das May 11, 2002, 05:42 AM "This is the end! Even the strongest and most cold blooded soldiers now know, that only miracle can save us now. Well, I guess we shoudl pack for Ireland, as well as rest of the people... British will probably overrun it too, but at least, they have someone to lead them..."
"I am surprised at you all! It's not over! There would be elections, and a worthwile man will coem to power, and no one will dare to invade us, as long as we are united!"
"Well, elections will take time, and there are no worthwile politicans in Germany right now... It's over!"
"Unless..."
"No! I will not win in elections, since I am not a high-class member of any party, and that's final!"
"I meant something else..."
"I will not usurp power! I will not abolish Republic, or ever try to!"
"But you will take over for a while, until the elections, and..."
"Oh, okay. But I will resign as soon as people demand it. I will take over as a temporary ruler..."
Toasty May 11, 2002, 06:00 AM The loss of a great man for a great country:
From the Srivijayan Jakarta Times:
The whole nation mourns the loss of Hermann Shultz, leader of the German Republic, who died by the bullet of an assassin last week, most likely a Hohenzellorn royalist.
When such civilized nations are brought to their knees by a crazed man with a gun, it should never be tolerated. It should never be accepted. Kaiser Wilhelm's attempt to reclaim the throne of Germania should be stopped. The people of Germania should decide who their leader is as is stated in their constitution. That is the belief of the Srivijayan government.
We applaud Hermann Schultz in his efforts for peace and well-being and ask for international support of the German Republic's right to continue.
SKILORD May 11, 2002, 09:20 AM We shall never be overrun! We are sad for our allie's loss though. hope that order and freedom are soon restored.
das May 11, 2002, 12:57 PM At his first day as the ruler of Germany, Karl decided to speed up the negotiations with Kushanis. He also odered an expedition to a land natives call Venezuella, before Incas could grab it's coastline. Another one to Soutehrn Brazil and another one to Indian Ocean, but where is it's final goal?
Kefka May 11, 2002, 02:07 PM From: King Kefka of Greece
To: Rome-Gaul and Great Britain
Reason: our Anti-German Coalition
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I wish to talk about our MPP so thoughtfully named the Anti-German Coalition. As you may know we have many potencial enemys besides Germany there is Egypt, Ireland and Spain just to name a few.
Don't get me wrong I wish to stay in our alliance, I just wish that we could put those horrible days behind us and what better way to do that than to rename our alliance to the Euro-Alliance, we can not continue to foster hate against one nation. We must show the world that we will stand together against whoever our common enemy might be and not just Germany.
Please respond to my message soon about Greece's proposed alliance name change.
From: King Kefka of Greece
To:Temporary Ruler Karl Geberstein of the German Republic
Reason: Your nations great loss
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I extend my deepest sypathy to your nation at your nations time of distress, I have heard that you may be a temporary ruler now but I still wish you the best of luck and may the frendship of our two people's grow and prosper.
VanillaCube May 11, 2002, 02:37 PM Originally posted by SKILORD
Ireland is interested spain
To:Germany
Subj:Your new leader
From:Jose Cube
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I see you have a new leader good for you.
To:Grand Inca
Subj:Land Division
From:Jose Cube
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I belive that our two countrys must meet to determine how the south american continent will be divided up. I await your reply.
VanillaCube May 11, 2002, 02:40 PM Originally posted by SKILORD
Ireland is interested spain
To:Ireland
Subj:Luxury trades
From:Jose Cube
ah then how about starting at the begining of next year we can begin a trade of my unbeatable Brazilian Coffee for some of your fine Irish beer or perhaps wool? anyway this trading will bring our nations closer together and help both our econonmys.
would you like to begin trading? click yes or no.
Yes (http://forums.civfanatics.com/private.php?s=&action=newmessage&userid=38) or no (http://www.palehorse76.com/Animation2.gif)
out of character: I like palehorses animation so I had to use it once ;) and damn I acidently did a double post. ohwell I will make the first one to some one else ;)
SKILORD May 11, 2002, 03:13 PM Ireand chose yes
wilboman May 12, 2002, 03:17 AM Originally posted by wilboman
The American Settlers had landed on the African coast. Nestled between the Irish colonies and the Roman Provinces, they founded the colonies of Liberia, with the Capital Monrovia, Guinea, with Conakry, and Sierra Leone, with Freetown. He also extended his colonies as far inland as the meeting of the rivers of Niger and Bani, and at the sources of the river Volta. There his settlers founded trading posts, so they could utilise the rivers, and also lie only a short distance from the Bedouin traders of the Sahara desert.
OCC: Das, could you please add my expansion in Africa in on your map?
To Powhatana and all the other leaders of North America
I believe we must very soon have a summit to decide how we wish to divide the interior of our continent, and we must also discuss terms for a North American Alliance.
Powhatana of the Mohawk only
Then we will meet to agree the terms of our alliance and the new land divison soon!
I look forward to cooperating with you.
Letter of condolances to the German people
I'm greatly saddened by your loss, and angered by this heinous act. Schultz was a great leader, and a warrior of democracy. His death is a blow to all free republics.
If ever Germany should need help defending it's freedom in the face of such terrorists, the Thirteen Colonies will do everything in their power to help.
Washington leant back in his chair. It was time to consider the ongoing colonization efforts. His settlers had taken the little bit of white that was left between him and England, north of Quebec.
He was also exploring the possibility of territories north of Hudson Bay.
Dexter May 12, 2002, 04:25 AM Will I see my expansion into Alaska and West of China added to the map. Thanks:D
das May 12, 2002, 09:54 AM As a new year begun, German Temporary Ruler have sent 7 Ironclads, 11 other ships, and GED to Madagascar in order to force Kushanis to begin some kind of negotiations, becaause of the silence from Kushanis on any previous offers.
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In Venezuella, Admiral Hans was appointed Governor, in Southern Brazil, it was 62 year old Ludwig Korshtein (Germany's First Chancellor).
Dexter May 12, 2002, 11:03 AM I have some questions about this NES:
I. Who decides the outcomes of battles?
II. Will everyone move up a tech this Sunday?
III. What does each age of technology enable you to do? Can the player just judge this according to real history?
Thanks!
das May 12, 2002, 11:35 AM Nice questions. I happen to have a realisitc system for battles, but I don't know wil lyou trust me, as Germany will also fight and all...
Well, not everyone will move up. but let's try to agree on some tech. level chamnges tommorow? I know t's too early for Medoiuum Industrial, but some more backward naitions that have just moved to the reform period could make some advances in Tech. Level...
Jason The King May 12, 2002, 12:56 PM Oops, double post, sorry
Jason The King May 12, 2002, 12:58 PM "Lord Inca, or soldiers are all up to date, and we have begin to set up factories powered by water in Machu Pichu and here in Chaca. We are producing our very own muskets from the technology of the Irish here in Chaca too!"
"This is great! The gods will look down on us in happiness. Send some of our finest gold to the irish back with thier generals, and this letter" (which reads:
To: The Irish Government
From: Grand Inca
Hail, my good friend. I am happy to announce our slow movement into the early industrial technology, thanks to your glorius people! I have sent some of our finest gold back with your generals in thanks for your support. I hope we can work out some sort of alliance to protect our two peoples in the future. Happy ruling!)
"Yes mi' lord. Also, our politcal culure and domination has spread over the northern part of this continent! We now have ample room for planting crops and food for our people!"
"Tis' a good day for the Incan Empire. Prepare a grand feast, in which any one in the world may join, on my tab."
"Yes, your lord. Here, in Chaca's gigantic town center?"
"Yes."
Jason The King May 12, 2002, 01:09 PM Inca looked around the new chamber of congress his man had created. The room was filled with common faces that had helped him come to power in teh begining of his reign. He knew that these people would also help him control the empire now. His breath began to poke his mouth as the cold mountain air froze his tears of fright. His haird had become very silky in the past week, but now was stiff as ropes from the dewy atmosphere, as he rose out of his chair, the fate of his whole empire laid upon the factor of if he gained 'boos' of claps. His legs tightened, almost making him fall backwards, untill he finally stretched the muscles out. His irish robe was the only thing that comforted him, even though his wife and children, all eight of them, were sitting right next to him. He could feel their stress, also. Finally he had risen to the very top of his hieght, and straghtened out his back. The crowed roared with please, and, now the President Inca, felt his heart race. His body became warm again, and the tears melted as he gave his opening speach:
"My dear friends and people. I stand in front of you as your new president of the Inca free world. No longer will you be harnessed as slaves, and no longer will you be told what to do in your life. You will make your own decisions, which I know will help in our countries exciting time of revelations, especially as our territory become closer the the european territory. Our people will now bask in freedom, and make our rivals jealous!!!!" The people roared with happiness, and the new president sat down to let the power sink in.
SKILORD May 12, 2002, 02:05 PM Ireland begins a colony on the Southern cape of S. America!
The goal is to Bring Ireland into the Pacific.
Dexter May 12, 2002, 02:23 PM Originally posted by das
Nice questions. I happen to have a realisitc system for battles, but I don't know wil lyou trust me, as Germany will also fight and all...
Well, not everyone will move up. but let's try to agree on some tech. level chamnges tommorow? I know t's too early for Medoiuum Industrial, but some more backward naitions that have just moved to the reform period could make some advances in Tech. Level...
I'll happily trust ya ;) I know you wouldn't cheat. As for the tech. changes it's more because my nation needs to move forward into the Early Industrial times if it's to keep up with the other nations.
Thanks for the answers,
Dexter
Kefka May 12, 2002, 08:06 PM From:King Kefka of Greece
To:King Régua Elevada
Reason: A land purchace
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Hello King Régua Elevada of the Srivajaya empire, I contact with your country to make a purchace of some of you land. mainly your territorry in the MiddleEast, while Greece has a lot of wealth we find our people wanting more land. there has already been problems between Greece and our neibor Egypt. but we wish to offer you a large sum of money for your land that borders greece It would benifit both our nations as Greece will have more living space and Srivajaya will have made more money and will have made a new Ally in Europe. Please get back to me and let me know what would be an acceptiblale deal for you.
Xtreamskier27 May 12, 2002, 08:38 PM The small nation of Canada wishes to join the Noth American Alliance. If Iam accepted I will trade furs with your nations. I will not expand my nation on the contenant. I will help you in times of war or even in peace should you need it.
I hope you accept me into your great Alliance.
Sincerely,
BOB (president of canada)
:cooool: :sheep:
Toasty May 13, 2002, 05:56 AM King Kefka,
What you are asking from us is actually the small theocratic state of Babylonia ;). Unfortunately it is not our place to sell you a country that isn't ours.
Toasty May 13, 2002, 06:09 AM The Srivijayan fleet began it's forced entry to the rivers of Tigris and Euphrates. The unsuspecting Babylonian fleet, still docked was quickly ripped apart by cannon fire while some Srivajayan sailors boarded them and captured them.
Soon after the port was cleared, the force made its way up the rivers to the city of Basra, the 3rd largest city in Babylonia. The fast-moving ships and soldiers had outstretched the supply lines so they dug in to their river-city.
Several un-coordinated attempts to retake the city by the Babylonian militia failed miserably.
Srivajaya welcomes Greek help in the conquest of Babylonia.
das May 13, 2002, 09:53 AM A messanger has arrived to Kushanis:
"We were forced to this course of action by your aggressive actions. This is a counterattack. We will stop fighting as soon as you agree to negotiations."
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"Good. No! It's GREAT!" - proclaiemd Karl Geberstein at the letter. In southwestern Austrlia, town of Hermannburg, named afrter the Chancellor, was built.
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"Gentlemen, as the 19th Hundred of Years since the birth of Jesus Christ already has a name - Age of Industries. As Germany rises, so does the science. And with it - economy. And with it - industries!"
Dexter May 13, 2002, 10:31 AM Announcement:
Thanks to help from our good friends the Russians, China has entered a new age of Science and Industry. These developements have opened up the ability to build factories and weapons of superior quality to that made before in China. This new age will no doubt bring great riches to the lands of China.
Actions:
- The building of weapons and ammunition factories in East and South China along the rivers Yangtze and Huang He has begun.
- Large tea and rice producing factories have been set up in East and West China.
- A large naval port is under developement in Shanghai to support the construction of a new Chinesse fleet and open new trade routes.
- Military training camps built west of Chengdu, in Alaska and on the border of Russia.
- Fortresses are to be built along the Southern borders and along the Western borders.
Everthing above should be completed within a year. The large Chinesse population has been mobilized for production and hard labour.
All Hail China, all hail Tung!
Kefka May 13, 2002, 03:53 PM Originally posted by Toasty
The Srivijayan fleet began it's forced entry to the rivers of Tigris and Euphrates. The unsuspecting Babylonian fleet, still docked was quickly ripped apart by cannon fire while some Srivajayan sailors boarded them and captured them.
Soon after the port was cleared, the force made its way up the rivers to the city of Basra, the 3rd largest city in Babylonia. The fast-moving ships and soldiers had outstretched the supply lines so they dug in to their river-city.
Several un-coordinated attempts to retake the city by the Babylonian militia failed miserably.
Srivajaya welcomes Greek help in the conquest of Babylonia.
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Srivajaya
Reason:Babylonia
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The Greek army is glad to have your help you in the conquest of Babylonia, Greece will formaly state now that it wishes to control Babylonia as it will give us decent ports into the Indian Ocean.
OUT OF CHARACTEROh Im sorry Toasty this was a misunderstanding of the colors of the map you and babylonia have about the same color and whenever I looked at the country lists I saw Persia and Babylonia I just never put together that they were both in this game :crazyeye: BACK IN CHARACTER
From:King Kefka of Greece
To:Babylonia
Reason:Declaration of war!
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Dear leader of the Babylonian people, your country is full of terrorists and Greece has had enough of having this Crazy theocratic country were there is no order living right next to us! your Theocracy is a threat to world saftey and it must be taken out.
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The half of the Greek army pours in to Babylonia from the north completly surprising the babylonian regiments currently poised to hold off the Srivajaya Army, we literally caught them with there backs turned as a result the first Battle was a major victory for Greece. :goodjob:
The Greek army is a mere five miles from were the Srivajayan army is stationed.
VanillaCube May 13, 2002, 04:34 PM To: The World
Subj: A trade route is established bettween Spain and Ireland
From: Jose Cube
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Some trade ships loaded with our fine Brazilian Coffee is on its way to Ireland to deliver the goods, and when the trade ships enter the Coffee will be given Ireland and our ships will then be loaded with great Irish Beer, and, will then begin its trip for spain to drop drop the Beer off, and, then those ships will take supplys from Spain back to Brazil and the cycle will start all over again.
Xtreamskier27 May 13, 2002, 05:31 PM To the North american alliance
From Canada (brite green)
you have not let me into your alliance yet. So the leaders of many more eskimos have joined my country. And please let me into your N.A. Alliance please[phaser] :sheep:
CONRAD May 13, 2002, 06:08 PM To: The Guys in Greece
From: the Rome-Gaul guys
Subj: Pacts, war
We should name our pact the jus d'orange pact. It can really knock it out!
I'm attacking India, because I want territory & labour. India has lots of labour.
To: Germany
From: The Rome-Gaul guys
Subj: Peace
Did Greece make peace with you? If so, we will too. We want colonies. You should get some too.
To: India
From: The Rome-Gaul guys
Subj: Attack
We're attacking you.
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And with that, the armies were sent on boat to India, where they easily crushed the primitive Indian armies. Spears simply can't hold up to rifles. Rome-Gaul would enjoy the Ivory and Furs coming into the country. Muahahahaha!!!
New map:
Jason The King May 13, 2002, 07:21 PM After another two years have passed, the Incan empire grew steadily. The population matches those of any nation of the world, when just four years ago the Incan empire weren't half as big as the empires of Europe. The Incan empire has also expanded extremely far. Rail tracks used to roll carts pulled by donkeys, llamas, and horses have been installed throughout the nation. President Inca is happy.
here is tha map, the wight lines are the MAIN railways,
Kushanis May 14, 2002, 12:09 AM Due to internal affairs, the Madagascarian Government was preoccupied with affairs of state, and were unable to participate in International affairs. We are now clear to continute.
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TO: The German Empire
FROM: King Kushanis of the Island Nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Invasion of Madagascar
We were considering talks with your people, but due to your blatant attemps at seizing Madagascarian Territory, we will do no such thing.
If you had not entered your forces upon our land, we would have began negotiantion, YOU have started hostilities with our people.
That opion is no longer avaliable.
All German forces sighted, in or around Madagascar Territory will be attacked, imprisoned, and executed.
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TO: The Nations of the World
FROM: The Humble Nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Assistance Required
With the recent invasion of German forces, we have declared war and will fight them to our deaths.
We know that this is not enough however.
We ask any/all nations to assist us in this struggle, with technology to help us fend off the German Dictators.
Keep in mind, if Madagascar falls, South Africa, the Indian ocean, and our Island Nation will be controlled by German Forces.
Jason The King May 14, 2002, 09:12 AM To: Madagascar
From: Inca
Sbj: War in Africa
I am appaled at the German forces. Although I am far away and dearly wish not not get involoved with other countries, I am sending 100,000 men in some transports, protecting by my whole Navy to support you. They will arrive on the Madagascar island in about a week (Tomorrow). There,you may give the orders, and do what you like with them. I remind thee, my troops are not yet fully trained at fighting other arms. They are elite with using the arms, though.
OOC: Das, can you update the map?
Dexter May 14, 2002, 09:51 AM Actions:
- The beginings of a new Rail system in the East of China is begun.
- Military drafting is introduced, every man who is sixteen is required to join the army for a minimum of six years. This is expected to almost double the armies size within two years.
- The continuation of the port in Shanghai as it is still under construction.
- The first munition and weapons factories are opened on the river Yangtze. These should make the mass production of cheap rifles easy and help supply the entire army.
- Tea and rice factories are opened to begin trading with the outside world and make China rich.
To: Nations Of The World
From: Ministry Of Foreign Trade In China
Subj: World Trade
The People Of China have been working hard to open our first factories with the intention of trading our fine Chinesse Tea's and rice. All nations are offered an equal opportunity to trade in these riches and we dearly hope that an agreement can be made that works in the interest of the participating nations.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
To: Rome-Gual
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Recent Aggression
We hope that your recent aggression in India is restricted to India only. Such acts of aggression if repeated upon China shall be met with serious opposition!
Be Warned!!
All hail China, all hail Tung!
[OOC] When Updating the map please don't forget China's previous movements to the West and in Alaska. Thanks!:goodjob:[/OCC]
das May 14, 2002, 10:49 AM Railroads are not yet inveneted! I will ignore every notices about railroads until, lets say, 1802 (there some of our nations will invent raikriadsm uf tgat's okay with you) Thank you. Oh, and here are the results of Invasion India: Indian forces were quickly overwhelmed by Rome-Gaullian forces. During the battle, Indians didn't had large causalities, as didn't Rome-Gaullians, plus the Rome-Gaul has quickly received reinforcements. Indian army has collapsed morally, but it is likely to split up to small groups and continue resisting (made with my system).
das May 14, 2002, 11:19 AM In 1797, Wilhelm Gausch has sent the following letter to His Majesty Kushanis of Great Madagascarin People:
LETTER TO KUSHANIS BY WILHELM GAUSCH.
"I believe we could work in cooperation in Africa. I would like to know your opinion on the border which is needed to be established between German South Africa and Madagascarian Empire. So what is your suggestion?" - Wilhelm Gausch, Governor of German South Africa and Congressman of Deutsch Kongress to Great Kushanis, Emperor of Madagascarian Empire.
There was no response until 1801. On 1801, the response was the following:
We do not negoiate with Neanderthals.
If you do land on our fair island it will be a considered a an of war agianst our soverign rights, and you will be held responisble.
We also proclaim, that we shall cease the hositilities as soon as His Majesty Kushanis of GReat MAdagascarin People agrees to bgin some kind of negotiations on dvding the African Soul.
das May 14, 2002, 11:30 AM "They want war - they will get war!" - said Admiral Hans - "Comence the bombarding!"
5 German ships have commenced intensive bobmardement of Tamatave.
"And now, to use our little SECRET WEAPON!"
"Right away sire! We worked since the revolution on that!"
An iron steam ship - The Ironclad has approached Tamatave. it's guns have fired at the harbor. The scene was the same in several other Madagascarin harbors (expect for the Ironclad).
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Wilhelm Gausch has personally supervized thew cosntruction of the wodden forts of South African borders. Local militia and the colonial army has arrived to those forts - the Gausch Forts named after South Africa's first governor. Madagascarin forces would be held on this line - hopefully...
Kushanis May 14, 2002, 11:30 AM TO: The German Empire
FROM: King Kushanis of the empire of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Response
Prehaps the wax in your ears is building up..
Let me repeat myself, there will be NO Negotiations over South Africa.
NO land will be split for your kingdom, Your Colinization efforts into our land will be routed, and if you intend to still take this land it will be by force.
das May 14, 2002, 11:33 AM TO CHINA: We suggest beer-tea trade and coal-rice trade.
das May 14, 2002, 11:43 AM TO MADAGASCAR: You can route our army out, but let me warn you that our colonists will stand there to the end! Right now, we suggest this border (since you didn't made any of your offers) (see the map below).
Oh, and we are republicans.
Kushanis May 14, 2002, 01:03 PM The ships from port began tos et sail, bound for the Mainland.
Two fleets were being sent, one filled with thw 100,000 troops from Aztland, and the other torwards the blockaded ports.
This war fleet knew it was a suicide mission, but it was the only way to divert them.
The transports arrived on the coast of Tukiwanda and unloaded it's troops..
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TO: The German "Republic"
FROM: The King of Madagascar, Kushanis
SUBJECT: A map.
We have reviewed your map and have decided to make revisions of our own.
Oh and by the way, an Army of 100,000 men is heading torwards our occupied territories.
I suggest you withdraw.
Jason The King May 14, 2002, 08:31 PM Grand Inca looked at his papers (I don't know why I always start my stories that way!) and saw his charts grow and grow. He now had half of the south america continent, and almost expanded as far as he wanted. He hoped his men he sended the Madagascans were alright, he had not heard of any response! He had sent a fifth of his army. He decided to start the expansion of his Navy, though.
"D.A, please commence the factories and harbors being built on our coastal ports. Commence the Naval build up. Also, please begin on the recruitments of the army, to replace those that we sent to the Madagascans. Also, Try and persuade the people of China to lend us technology on steam and modern factories. Also, begin research on a way to fastly and safelty transport people and goods along our mountains and ground."
(DAS, please upgrade the stats to this:
Inca:
Capital City: Chaca
Government: Democracy
Ruler: Grand Inca (Jason the King)
Military Strenght: Medium army and small navy
Tech. Level: Begining of Industrial Age
In War With: German Colonies in S.Africa (Germany doesn't know)
MPPs: )
To Madagascar
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: MPP
Hello, fellow southerner. I am a little cautious on to no reply from you after the 100,000 men were sent to help you. I hope they made it there okay. Furthermore in our discussion, I am hoping to bring our people together. I suggest a defensive MPP? I will aid you in economical ways and military ways against the German Colonists, but would like you to keep my support hush hush. This will prevent any hostilities on my main land from German colonists here in South America. I look forward to your reply.
To China
From: Grand Inca in South America
Sbj: Technology exchange
Hello, fellow grand leader. I am grande leader of teh Inca people in south America, and am glad to contact you. The main reason I contact you is in trade. I would like to know how you create factories without water or wind power? I heard something called steam powers your factories. Would you be interested in trading with us? I can offer grand Andes gold, the best in the world, cocao beans, llamas, or mountain minerals. I look forward to your reply.
To : GERMANY
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: Technology trade
Hello, friend! I am contacting you in regards to technology trade. Would you like to trade the ship you call the Ironclad to us for anything we have. Would you like Andes gold, cocao, timber, saltpeter, or gems? I will look forward to your reply!
Dexter May 15, 2002, 09:16 AM Actions:
- Completetion of naval port in Shanghai. This should bring in new trade opportunities and help in the re-building of our naval forces.
- Developing of a new road and canal system throughout East China to help the progress of industry.
China (Supreme General Shang Tung)
Troops In Total: 750,000
Ships In Total: 25
Troops Abroad: 5,000
Ships Abroad: 4
Troops In Alaska: 5,000
Troops In East China: 110,000
Troops In West China: 100,000
Troops In South China: 100,000
Troops In North China: 100,000
Undisclosed Positions For 235,000 Troops
To: Karl Geberstein
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Shanghai Trade & Protection Pact
We come before you today to offer a package you cannot refuse. We offer to commence a trade of our goods for your goods and an offer of military alignment.
I hope that this deal shall help further both our nations best interests and bring our peoples closer together.
I await your reply.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
To: Grand Inca
From: Ministrey Of Foreign Trade
Subj: Shanghai Trade Pact
Unfortunatly you have been misinformed. All of China's factories are situated upon rivers, thus they are powered by the moving currents. Although we shall trade you our fine teas and rice in exchange for mountain minerals and Cocoa beans.
We also have enclosed an offer to join the Shanghai Trade Pact which will help ensure free and prosperous trade between our nations.
All hail China, all hail Tung
Kushanis May 15, 2002, 09:16 AM TO: The Nation of Aztland
FROM: King Kushanis, leader of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Response
Yes, the 100,000 troops did arrive, and yes, they are being put to use agianst Germany.
While we have "partially" revealled that some were your troops, we will stop any comment of that in the future.
As for your offer on an MPP, normally i would straight out say "Yes!!", but you must remember, if Germany continues to resist in South Africa, and you have an MPP with us, it would drag you into war.
But, if you are well abled with these conditions, we accept.
uknemesis May 15, 2002, 09:30 AM Russia will back Madagascar openly.
My entire army is at the German border, ready to invade if Germany should set foot in South Africa.
Be warned temporary leader of Germany, I will not hesitate to back those smaller than ourselves.
My army and navy match yours, and so it will be a bloody encounter if you force me to go to war with you, and it will leave you without the troops to invade South Africa.
So I think you should reconsider your position on bullying small states.
Nicholas, Tsar of the Russians
das May 15, 2002, 10:34 AM TO THE WORLD: I know that there are a lot of countries on Madagascarin side. Well, I don't udnerstand why would you support a country which demands the territory, which never belonged to them. They never had any claims on South Africa. Now I suggest that the rest of the world would make a poll, and decide, should the South Africa be grabbed from Germany. We also proclaim, that WE WILL NEVER LAND IN MADAGASCAR. I know that it's diffrent if it's we and not you,but Madagascar is the aggressor.
TO RUSSIA: We already have South African Militia and German Colonial Army there, and it was there since the beginning of colonization.
TO CHINA: We agree to this pact.
Kushanis May 15, 2002, 10:41 AM TO: The German Empire
FROM: King Kushanis of Madasgascar
SUBJECT: Response
That's not the problem, it's the fact you openly attacked our forces BECAUSE we didn't open negoiations over the land.
We claimed it after you attacked our forces.
This is our last warning before we re-take South Africa.
das May 15, 2002, 11:00 AM The bombardment has continued...Until an order to withdraw back to South African bases.
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As 1852 has begun, Karl has proclaimed to the world, that he withdraws his offer of negotiations and stays on the current borders, even as Madagascarin ruler didn't made any claims.
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"Well, the forts are ready. But could they fend off Madagascarians?"
"I guess so. This is going to be a long year..."
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"Well, here we are again" - said Karl Geberstein - "We are about to erupt into a conflict. I wish we could have ceded South Africa to Madagascar, or somethign to end the crisis."
"Maybe we could really cede it..."
"Yes, but the people will be so unhappy about giving something to Madgascar... Wait! I've got it!"
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A special action partaken by German Government: Today, we proclaim that South Africa is an independent republic, in order to solve the crisis.
das May 15, 2002, 11:10 AM TO MADAGASCAR: Even after we sign peace, any attack on SOuth Africa is also an attack on Germany.
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GERMAN FLEET FROM SOUTH FFRICA TO BE RELOCATED TO AUSTRLIA.
Kushanis May 15, 2002, 11:16 AM "M'lord!" called Nurumbi.
The king was worried, he knew that the South African situation was deteoriation, all out war was immenint, could his forces stand up to the Germans?
"M'lord!!" shouted Nurumbi agian, this time Kushanis had lost his train of thought and responded.
"Nurumbi, if i wanted to be screamed at i'd get my wife, now what is it?" said the King.
"It's the Germans sir! The've made a statement!" said Nurumbi.
The King sighed, he knew it was one of the Germans plea for what they thought happened in South Africa, when..
"They've issued a Decolartion sir! South Africa will be an idependent Nation!"
Damn.
The king knew that now that the Germans had decreed this, there would be no justification for war agianst them.
"I assume there is something we can do?" said the king.
"Agianst the Germans? No. But agianst this New Republic, we could invade and conquer it!" said Nurumbi
The King sighed. Nurumbi was young, and did not fully grasp the idea of international affairs.
"We could do that," said the king "If we wanted every nations in the world to be at our throats."
The King thought for a moment.
"Assume for a moment.." said the king, "If we were able to convice our allies that the Republic was a threat to our lands, our soverignty."
"They would assist us and allow us to invade unabiaded!" said Nurumbi.
"Excatly" said the King, "Assuming the Germans withdraw there presence from there, it will give us the opurtunity we would need."
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TO: The Nation of Germany
FROM: The Kingdom of Madasgacar
SUBJECT: Cease to all hostillities
To the wise king of Germany.
Our forces are standing now in South Africa, and we expect your forces to do the same, we will call a cease-fire to all forces on one condition...
... You withdraw any and all presence from South Africa.
If it is to be a truely independent republic, your presence will not be required.
Accept these terms or war will continue.
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TO: The Nations of Russia and Azland
FROM:The Nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT: A question.
Now that the Conflict with germany is begining to draw to a close, the nation of Madagascar proposes the following things.
TO RUSSIA: An MPP and the begining of International Trade
TO Aztland: 10,000 Gold pieces for her help during the war.
We also suggest an international conference to take place at a location of your convience.
uknemesis May 15, 2002, 01:21 PM TO GERMANY
The simple fact is is that you invaded a peaceful nation. It may have been silent due to the illness of it's leader, but it didn't have to respond at all, the borders could have stayed the same, why was negotiation needed? I don't ask you all the time that our borders need to be sorted out, as they are how they are.
My mistake over South Africa, I actually meant Madagascar.
I welcome your move to allow South Africa to be independent.
TO KUSHANIS
I welcome your MPP, but it will be declared null and void should you invade the new state of South Africa.
I also welcome the increase in trade.
Nicholas
Dexter May 15, 2002, 02:43 PM To: Karl Geberstein
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Shanghai Protection Pact
We are happy to have such a strong partner in this world! China is willing to offer you any military assistance you need in the South African problem. This agreement also means that we shall help each other should any nation declare war upon either of us.
Together we can control the world and grow rich of its vast resources!
All hail China, all hail Tung!
Has the map been updated? I looked earlier today at lunch time and I'm sure everything was updated, but since coming home I've noticed the map is still the same? If the map has been updated can I please get a version of it, thanks!
Below The Shanghai Pact Flag:
Xtreamskier27 May 15, 2002, 05:32 PM like I said earlier I have more tribes in my country. Here is an updated map of my country.
Das give me my stats on my government wich is a funny form of a democrosim and the stats on my small military thank u
Xtreamskier27 May 15, 2002, 05:38 PM here it is
uknemesis May 15, 2002, 05:53 PM Das has posted your stats on the first page(first country)... Unless you mean you have a problem with them...
Nemesis
Jason The King May 15, 2002, 06:05 PM OOC.: TO KUSHANIS: I AM THE INCAS! NOT AZTLAN, LOL. SAY LAND OF THE INCA, IF YOU WANT TO REFER TO MY LAND. NO HARD FEELINGS.
To: Madagascar
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: Gold Pieces
My people thank you for your generous offering. We will continue to aid you in any way from the Germans should you not be the aggresor. All the my people want is world peace.
To: China
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: WorldWide Trade
Hail, Tung. I am very imbarrased by my mis-interpritation of your technology, must have been all the cocao smoke.... Anyways, I would definetly agree to open my ports for trading between our two nations. My people will surely trade Ande Gold and Cocao beans in exchange for your esquisite teas and silks. I have already a fleet of 3 frigates filled to their breaches ready to depart for your land. All I need to know is the ports in which to ship too. Also, for the long voyage, I have already set up numerous 'pit stops' on the way on islands with plentiful food to feed our sailors. Your men are invited to dine and rest at any of these islands for free on your way here.
OOC- This means that I am currently colonizing the pacific islands. I have already colonized Hawaii, Tonga, and chain islands on the way to China.
To Germany
From Inca
So have you read my letter to you yet? About the trade for the steam boat technology?
Toasty May 15, 2002, 06:35 PM Report on the war in Babylonia from the Jakarta Times:
The reports from the Srivijayan expeditionary force has been spectacular. The Srivajayan fleet, made for the low waters surrounding our islands, has made impressive progress in their voyage up the Euphrates and Tigris rivers, and it is now in posession of Baghdad itself.
With the greater part of our army involved, we have been able to keep them well-maintained by our large merchant fleet--the largest in Asia. Supplies are carried virtually non-stop from Sumatra to the top end of the Persian Gulf while the guerilla fighting by the Babylonian militia has been un-organized and sparse throughout the territory. The only hand up was the year-long blockade and bombardment of Baghdad, the major reason for the slowup in the Tigris offensive.
However, the whole of the Babylonian Euphrates has been conquered, lead by Rear Admiral Derispada, with the Srivajayan flagship King Elevada spearheading the combined naval/soldier advance which has ended in Egyptian Syria. The main forward base is at Ramadar.
Very little information has been recieved from the Greek front but they appear to have been relatively bogged down after the legendary victory at Mosul.
Babylonia has, in effect, been divided in two by the Euphrates offensive. A diagram for the war:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/Babylonia.gif
Excerpts on the Latin-Gaullic annexation of India:
"Srivijaya has refused to recognize Rome-Gaul's claims to India...as a self-preserving and self-determined nation and people, Srivijaya lends it's complete support to...any government that might try to liberate India. Should there be no such suggestion, Srivijaya will consider the helping of the Indian people themsevles as this is most likely...due to brutal oppression."
Kefka May 15, 2002, 07:37 PM The Greeks have been holding there ground against the babylonian army for quite some time but now as the Babylonian army is weaker than it has ever been, Greece launches an attack on their Capital City of Babylon There fortifications and walls were bairly enough to defer a full on attack but now we have their Capital surrounded and no supplies are coming in or out! The Leader of the Babylonians are rummered to be in the City of Babylon at the time of the seige.
The Greeks will lay seige around the City untill the Second Greek Division gets there as they have much more fresh units to attack and strike a fatal blow to the capital Babylon.
SKILORD May 16, 2002, 08:59 AM Accurate Map of S. America, Including Irish colonies
Kushanis May 16, 2002, 09:14 AM [OOC: Lol, sorry Jason, i'm always confusing South American tribes :eek:]
TO: The Nations of the World
FROM: King Kushanis of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Map
The Government of Madagascar request and up to date world map.
Dexter May 16, 2002, 10:30 AM I'm 100% sure that the map I looked at on the School computer at lunchtime was fully updated with everything, but I've just gone on the internet at home right now and the map is back to it's old form!!:eek: Can someone who has a fully updated map fror this game send me a copy please? Thanks
Dexter May 16, 2002, 12:03 PM Announcement:
Due to concerns of Rome-Guallian movements in India, China feels it is our duty to protect the freedom of nations in our vicinity. Thus China has moved 200,000 troops to the borders of India and is giving the Rome-Guallian forces within 10 days to leave India before our forces shall enter.
This is an act of defence and protection of a nation which has not the strength to defend its self. 10 days and counting.
To: Karl Geberstein
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Support
We trust that by the terms of our recently signed treaty that you shall aid us in our defence of India?
All hail China, all hail Tung!
To: Grand Inca
From: Ministry of Foreign Trade, China
Subj: World Trade
Then it is agreed, trade shall commence between our glorious nations and help enrichen us both!
All hail China, all hail Tung!
Jason The King May 16, 2002, 02:23 PM To: China
Sbj: world trade
From: Grand Inca
I am so glad you have agreed to our trading. May our kingdoms live long a prosperous!
To: Madagascar
Sbj: stop immediate plans for invasion
From: Grand Inca
I suggest that you stop any immediate plans for invasion of south africa. As it is a free nation, it would all morals of your nation! As I will support you in any decisions, I suggest you think wisely of your position, especially in a world scale!
Kushanis May 16, 2002, 03:15 PM TO: The Nation fo the Inca
FROM: King Kushanis, of Madagascar
SUBJECT: South Africa.
While South Africa is "called" an independent nation, it is only a way for the Germans to try to avoid our control of South Africa.
While we do not see it as a truely independent state, we will not attack them none the less.
Unless South Africa shows hostile action torwards us, we will not invade.
Kefka May 16, 2002, 06:14 PM From: King Kefka of the Greeks
To: The World
Reason: Babylonia
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I am Informing all nations that the seige against babylon has finally ended and the glorious greek armys have Invaded and taken over the Capital city Babylon.
It was a hard fought match but in the end we breached the walls and leveled the city.
The Leader of Babylonia was Inside and we found him, he no longer lives. As Babylonia has no capital or leader anymore I declare that the country of Babylonia no longer exists!.
From: King Kefka of the Greeks
To: Srivijaya
Reason: Our Victory Spoils
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All we need to do is put down a few more reluctent fighters that don't accept us but this war is nearly over and my freind we have won, I am now sending you a map of how I say we should divide up the land.
We can do one of two things either we accept this dividing as it is now and have our great armys not fight again as it is.
Or
You can give me all of the land that was Babylon and I can help you Invade Persia, as they are just as bad as Babylon and they too are a threat to world peace.
personally I perfer the second option as It will give me access to the Indian Ocean But ultimally the choice is yours whether you want help in the war on Persia or not.
Jason The King May 16, 2002, 06:37 PM To: Greek leader
From: Grand Inca
I am happy to see your nation triumph over your rivals! I too am happy that the rouge state of Babylonia has finally fallen. the world may be at peace for a while longer! I am contacting you though, on another note. me being half a world away, I believe it would be wise for use to engage in an alliance. This would ultimatly give your influences and believes the freedom of the whole world. For example, if someone were to attack you at long range, I would be in position to retalliate for you, and serve as a base of operations on the other side of the world. Please consider this. In the meantime, I suggest trade between our two nations. How about some of your great horses and cattle. This, my continent lacks. In return, I would be glad to grant you cocao beans and Ande Gold.
Jason The King May 16, 2002, 06:47 PM The waery Incans step off their soggy frigate to set foot on solid ground for the first time in three months. With in five weeks, settlements were set up on the pensula, some inland, on the Red Sea coast, and on the Indian coast, starting a trade route that will prove to be very useful.
OOC: Inca colonies have been established within the colored marking: P.S. remember how fast Incan culture grows, dont be surprised if the colony doubles within a year.
Jason The King May 16, 2002, 06:48 PM OOps, heres the map...hehe
Dexter May 17, 2002, 04:03 AM Actions:
Due to no movement or reply from the Rome-Gaullian forces I am now moving my troops into their occupied territory. I hope that through these movements the Rome-Guallian forces remove themselves from Indian territory.
Until such actions we will continue onwards.
- 200,000 strong army has entered India to remove the Rome-Guallian forces.
das May 17, 2002, 08:49 AM TO MADAGASCAR: As you know, our navy is on it's way to Austrlia, while our soldies in South Africa have to decide whether to join South African Army, or join to the other German armies.
TO CHINA and THE WORLD: We suggest that you won't attacks yet, but we will first write the petition to Rome-Gaullian Governemnt, so they will know who is agaisnt them in this crisis.After all, we don't wan't more war. So I think that every oen who is on side of the righteous liberation of India, will sign the petition and ultimatum to Rome-Gaul. Let's discuss the content of the petition and the dealine of ultimatum by PMs, okay?
Kushanis May 17, 2002, 09:27 AM A new project has been approved in the capital city of Madagascar - Antananarivo
The old Galleys and Caravels were being updated with new weapons, and new numbers, making up from the losses for the war with the Germans.
Another project has also been accepted on the mainland, up to the point of Central Africas great lakes, the resourses there will be harvested, and put up for international trade.
The lined portion is now being claimed by Madagascar.
IceEye May 17, 2002, 10:26 AM To: Nicholas, ruler of Russia
From: ******
Remove all russian forces from swedish and finnish territory unless you want to be responsible for the loss of thousands of russian lives.
IceEye May 17, 2002, 10:36 AM Territory in black is what I demand!
uknemesis May 17, 2002, 10:40 AM And why should I remove my troops from Scandinavia? (OOC:Which country are you?! Sorry, too many NESs to remember!)
Who are you to demand the withdrawal of Russian forces? I have a huge army, an it is modern and powerful, so why should I listen to you?
Maybe you will get to find out how strong the Russian army is!
Nicholas Romanov
Tsar of Russia, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Ukraine and Poland.
uknemesis May 17, 2002, 10:40 AM And plus what black? You haven't got a map posted!
Nemesis
uknemesis May 17, 2002, 10:43 AM And if you are demanding independence for Scandinavia, come to Moscow. I am a generous man, and I am sure we can come to some agreement.
I will never give anyone true Russian land, but Scandinavia might be better of independent, so long as it was allied with it's former owner.
Nicholas
IceEye May 17, 2002, 10:45 AM Territory in black is what I demand!
uknemesis May 17, 2002, 11:30 AM Russia, being the fine and free country that we are, grants independence to the nation of Sweden, which shall rule Norway and Finland as well.
We wish the nation luck, and have signed a MPP with them. We also send them 5 old battleships from the Russian fleet that are being replaced by newer ones.
We also will be buying iron from them to kickstart their industry, which should be strong due to the fine Stockholm Military Works and the Oslo Naval Yard that Russia built.
Nicholas
IceEye May 17, 2002, 11:53 AM The Scandinavian Union
Capital City: Stockholm
Government: Monarchy
Ruler: Karl Max I (IceEye)
Military Strenght: Small Army, Small Navy(old- including the 5 russian ships) - this is what I suggest, what do you think das?
Tech. Level: Early Industrial Age (as Russia)
In War With:
MPPs: Russia
King Karl Max I and the scandinavian people gratefully thank Tsar Nicholas Alexandrovich Romanov.
To: All the leaders of the world
From: King Karl Max I of Scandinavia
I, King Karl Max I, am from this moment in control of Sweden, Finland and Norway. This territory was granted to me from Tsar Nicholas Alexandrovich Romanov.
We are not an agressive Union and we won´t go to war without a reason. This does however not mean that we are afraid of war.
The Scandinavian people hope that peace can be kept in the entire world and that all Countrys can live side by side without trouble.
Also note that a declaration of war against Russia is a declaration of war against the The Scandinavian Union as well.
-Max
My first orders are:
1. Modernising of the Royal Scandinavian Navy
2. Start trading iron to Russia
3. Send Scandinavian settlers to South America. They are on their way to the river Sao Francisco, north of were now Salvador lies. Alongside them 50.000 troops go and 10 ships(they got a map of the region from russian explorers).
4. Send Scandinavian settlers to Tasmania(Australia) with 25.000 troops and the old 5 russian battleships given to us.
Jason The King May 17, 2002, 02:16 PM OOC: Scandinavia- Are you on the coast, where the river empties in the ocean, or far inland? You need to attach a map. :)
IceEye May 17, 2002, 03:13 PM sorry forgot
To: Russia
From: Scandinavia
If you wish to change the border in the east just tell me and I will fix this.
are these locations ok speedwise I mean?
I sent them out even before I got Scandinavia from Russia, and with new technology it shouldn´t take more then a year to get there.
Kefka May 17, 2002, 04:14 PM From: King Kefka of Greece
To: Grand Inca
Reason: Lets do this thing
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I have read over your requests and after carefull consideration I belive that an Alliance with you would be very helpfull as both of our countrys would benifit. I say that we should start Trade right away also I would be happy to join in an alliance with you.
Xtreamskier27 May 17, 2002, 06:11 PM Is canada in your Alliance yet or do I have to take over more land?
Jason The King May 17, 2002, 06:40 PM To: King of Madagascar
From: Grand Inca
I'm glad that you have come to your sense....just kidding. But I am glad to be in an alliance with your great nation, now know one will stand in our way. In reference to trading, what goods do you specialize in? I can send cocao beans, spices, herbs, and specialized Andes Gold.
das May 17, 2002, 07:05 PM TO INCAS: We would liek you to join Shanghai Pact, if we share with you the secret of IRONCLAD. Do you agree?
Kushanis May 17, 2002, 08:15 PM TO: The Grand Inca
FROM: King Kushanis, of the Monarchy of Madasgascar
SUBJECT: Available Trades
While much of the pure diamond mines of South Africa remain in the afore mentioned countries name, we do have some mines on the coast.
We also have Gold, Spices, Herbs and many Medicinal Medicines, which our doctors have shown to control and sometimes eradicate - Malaryia
Jason The King May 17, 2002, 10:34 PM To: Madagascar
From: grand inca
I would trade my Andes gold for your diamonds any day! A cargo ship of gold is already on its way, I expect half the weight in diamonds to be traded to me (since diamonds are so heavy).
To: China
From: Grand inca
I thank you for your offer into the Shagai... pact. I definetly accept, and hope that this will help bring our two nations closer together. I also suggest an invitation to Madagascar, since I am also allied with them. If not, it's ok.
the people cheered as the Grand Inca again finished talks about their nation.
"Our Inca culture has spread to every corner of the Earth. We have Incan missionaries in both Africa and Australia, all contributing to our glorius empire. We have made new allies with China, and enter the Shangui pact. This, I hope will help protect our neighbors and ourselves. We have also agreed to help our fellow islanders, the Madagascarians, in any struggle they might encounter, and the same truth for us! this is a glorius day for our empire, let everyone rejoice!"
All the poeple cheered and shouted with proudness of their nation.
OOC: My influence has spread to colonies on Australia, and my army has increased to Large (i posted earlier, way earlier, that I was building it, but i wont build any larger, i swear!lol. Maybe navy though).
Kushanis May 18, 2002, 12:19 AM TO: The Grand Inca
FROM: King Kushanis of the Monarchy of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Diamonds for Gold
Our Caravels with the diamonds, are on there way to the Aztec ports in South America and Australia.
SKILORD May 18, 2002, 12:32 AM Ireland is costantly expanding her colonies and has begun a new colony in Australia.
Dexter May 18, 2002, 09:02 AM To: Karl Geberstein
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: India
Very well at your request our troops shall be removed. But we shall only hold back until the end of this year.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
To: Grand Inca
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Shanghai Pact
We are happy to welcome you as a member of the Shanghai Pact. Although membership of Madagascar shall be not be allowed, they are enemies of Germany and thus enemies of China.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
das May 18, 2002, 12:01 PM To Rome-Gaul:
You have one year (1 real life day) to withdraw from India. You know that it's hard for us to keep China from attacking you. But do you know that it's hard to keep our army, and our people from doing so? And do you know that our government doesn't wants to hold anyone from suimply attacking you. You know that we also don't want any wars in Europe.
Karl Geberstein.
To Great Britain and Greece: We don't want a new war in Europe, and we would like you to stay neutral if we have to fight Rome-Gaul. You udnerstand that this is provoked by Indian Crisis, and Rome-Gaul is the actual aggressor.
Karl Geberstein.
To Russia, Spain and Scandinavian Union:
We don't want a new war in Europe. I suggest that you will stay neutral, if war will have to occur with Rome-Gaul. We hope that nothing occurs to break the good relationships between our countries.
Karl Geberstein.
To USA, California and Ireland:
We would like to know, what will you want to have in exchange for you joining Shanghai Pact.
Karl Geberstein.
To Everyone who is envolved in colonzation of Australia (and New Zeeland with the Tasmania), or plans to be:
We would like to make the final division of the territory between the countries. Here is the map:
Kushanis May 18, 2002, 12:14 PM TO: The Shanghai Pact
FROM: King Kushanis, on the Monarchy of Madasgascar
SUBJECT: India.
While we have been at war with nations within your pact, we support your measures agianst Rome-Gaul.
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TO: The Nation of Rome-Gaul
FROM: The Nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT: India
You have put India under an illegial occupation and are risking a global conflict.
We "respectfully" suggest you withdraw immedialtey, before the situation spins out of control, and war erupts in Europe, Asia, and your Colonies.
IceEye May 18, 2002, 12:23 PM To: Germany
From: TSU(The Scandinavian Union)
I can accept the map of Australia if you accept to give us Denmark.
We also want to know how much iron Germany wants for the secret of the IRONCLAD
To: Rome-Gaul
From: TSU
To solve this crisis and to stop an eventual war in Europe, we humbly asks your nation to whitdraw from India.
-Karl Max I, ruler of The Scandinavian Union
uknemesis May 18, 2002, 12:28 PM Originally posted by das
To Russia, Spain and Scandinavian Union:
We don't want a new war in Europe. I suggest that you will stay neutral, if war will have to occur with Rome-Gaul. We hope that nothing occurs to break the good relationships between our countries.
Karl Geberstein.
On the contrary, I support the move against Rome-Gaul. Russia supports free countries, as shown by us giving Scandinavia independence.
That is also why I impose restrictions in wars to make sure that a country isn't destroyed, as I believe that every nation has a right to exist.
That includes India. I add my voice and my army to those demanding that Rome-Gaul leave India immediately.
If they have not left in one year, Russia will join those forcibly ejecting them from India. Our Eastern Military District has been training with China for some time, so the 50,000 men would be willing to go into battle alongside the Chinese troops, along with another 50,000 men I have just sent to the area. The new troops will be confident in China's leadership due to the example of the 50,000 already there.
I place the 100,000 men under the command of China if war should break out, and ask them to use them wisely to help eject the Rome-Gaul occupiers.
With Scandinavia gone, I reorganise my army:
RUSSIAN MILITARY TABLE OF ORGANISATION [TOP SECRET]
NAVAL STRENGTH
Pacific Fleet: 8 ships BASED AT: Vladivostok
Atlantic Fleet: 9 ships BASED AT: Archangel
Black Sea Fleet: 5 ships BASED AT: Odessa
Baltic Sea Fleet: 3 ships BASED AT: Riga
ARMY STRENGTH
Western Military Zone: 900,000 men BASED AT: Minsk
Eastern Military Zone: 100,000 men BASED AT: Yakutsk
The Eastern Military Zone is mostly the wilderness of Siberia, which is easy to defend due to the fact that we can trade land for striking power - attacking the enemy's flank as he advances. Also, I am confident that China would never attack me, so I do not need assign too many forces there.
The Western Military Zone, while being close to the European powers who are now peaceful, must remain strong as it defends the heart and soul of Russia, Moscow, St. Petersburg and many other major cities.
250,000 troops in the event of war will depart on the Atlantic Fleet to do a D-Day-style landing in Normandy, and make it a two front war for Rome-Gaul.
An extra 150,000 troops would then depart further south, and land in Sicily and begin the advance north, opening up a third front for Rome-Gaul.
Hopefully, the amount of fronts causing Rome-Gaul to split their force will lead to their downfall, and allow us to win victory and force them to admit defeat. Then the 400,000 Russian troops would stay long enough to ensure the Germans and other nations left Rome-Gaul territory after a peace treay has been signed, and then return home.
AND TO BRITAIN AND HER ALLIES
We would like to have you assurances you will not aid Rome-Gaul, and we will in turn sign MPPs with all of you.
Nicholas, Tsar of Russia
IceEye May 18, 2002, 12:46 PM To: Leaders of the World
From: TSU(The Scandinavian Union)
As I see it all of you seem to think that free countries have their right to exist. Why does this rule not include the free Nation of Babylonia? We, TSU, demand that Greece and Srivajaya immediately remove their forces from Babylonian territory. I hope that other more powerful leaders of the world help me to put pressure on these to Bandit States of Srivajaya and Greece!
-King Karl Max I
New orders from King Karl Max I:
-New recources(mainly from our trade with Russia) to be spent on upgrading and enlarging The Royal Scandinavian Army to help protect our new colonies.
-Send new colonist with 3 ships and 25.000 troops to settle south of Rome-Gaul(Africa). The new colony stretches mostly along the coast quite a long bit.
Top Secret:
25.000 men and 5 ships based in Australia(Tasmania)
25.000 men and 5 ships based in South America(Salvador)
Soon: 25.000 men and 3 ships based in Africa
50.000 troops and 2 ships based in Helsinki
75.000 troops and 3 ships based in Stockholm
50.000 troops and 7 ships based in Oslo
Total: 250.000 troops and 25 ships
CONRAD May 18, 2002, 05:14 PM To: World
From: King Pamplemousse XIV
Subj: India
We refuse to leave india. The indian government was corrupt and unfair to it's citizens anyway. The locals enjoy being governed by us, and we enjoy governing them. If you don't like it, go stick it in your ear.
Kushanis May 18, 2002, 06:01 PM TO: The Nation of Rome-Gaul
FROM: The Nation of Madasgascar
SUBJECT: Response
Then you leave us no choice.
Madagascar declares war on Rome-Gaul.
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TO: The Shanghai Pact
FROM: The Nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Your response
A line in the sand has been drawn, we have delclared war agianst the nation of Rome-Gaul.
While we have been enemies in the past, prehaps now we should turn a new leaf, agianst our common enemy, of Rome-Gaul.
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TO: Our Allies, Inca and Russia
FROM: The nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT: War
We have delcared war on Rome-Gaul, due to our MPP's, we expect you to do the same.
My nation thanks you for your support during this time period.
Jason The King May 18, 2002, 08:52 PM "Sir, madagascar has just declared war on Rome gaul! And they expect us to back them!"
"Well, so be it. As i dont like making enemies, we must aid our friends. Tell them that whatever they need, just ask (that was sent to Madagascar).
OOC: Das, about the Australia map, what color are the Incas that landed there???
The Inca civilization expands.
The incan lord knew that a puny army could not protect his vast land, so he decides to start to recruit more Incans into the army, and begins building a Navy (So, I announce that my armie and Navy are building up. I think this is necisarry seeing how big my land is!)
Kefka May 19, 2002, 01:02 AM From: King Kefka of Greece
To: Germany
Reason: Rome-Gaul
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Yes Greece does understand that Rome-Gaul is the aggresser and Greece supports India in its right to be a free nation as India is and always has been a peacefull backwards country.
I will remain neutral if war on Rome-Gaul is declared.
From: King Kefka of Greece
To: King Karl Max I
Reason: ?
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Greece realizes that The Scandinavian Union must not realise how much of a threat to world peace that Babylonia was. Theres country was ruled by an Inefficient leader, under an even worse government, the rights of the common people did not exist, that land was a breeding ground for terrorists.
The Babylonian people are much better off under my our rule.
I hope that you can understand how much of a better world this will be without the rouge government of Babylonia and I hope our countrys can avoid any future conflicts with eachother.
From: King Kefka of Greece
To: The World
Reason: The SEURO
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Greece is formally withdrawing from the ........ and joining in a new alliance with Spain it will be called the SEURO, This new Alliance does not mean that Greece wishes war with Great Britain or Rome-Gaul but Greece finds that the times are changing and as a result of current world affairs Greece can no longer stand behind the actions of some of the former Alliance members. Greece also extends a hand to England and will gladly let them join too if they wish.
From: King Kefka of Greece
To: The World
Reason: Hungary
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King Kefka anounces that a new country is to be born!
The country of Hungary and its leader will be Attila the Great(__LuFFaReN) and Hungary shall be part of the new SEURO Alliance the border's for this country is shown in the following map.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/Hungary_from_Greece.jpg
IceEye May 19, 2002, 02:59 AM Just wanted to post the map of my coolonies. Note that as the map of Australia is not yet accepted I am not including that one.
If Russia declares war on Rome-Gaul, so will TSU.
And I now want to know what romes allies will do. Will they stay neutral or will they support their ally?
To: Kefka
From: King Karl Max I
I can accept your control of Babylon but you should now make peace and let the borders stay were they are!
VanillaCube May 19, 2002, 03:40 AM To: The World
Subj: Tec Upgrade
From: Jose Cube
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I am proud to anounce that spain will be upgrading from the Late Middle Ages to the Early Industrial Age due in part from massive science research and in part to tecnology given by the Greeks.
Spain will now work to Intigrate this new tecnology in to our society and better our lives.
To: The World
Subj: The SEURO
From: Jose Cube
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Yes world that announcment of the creation of the SEURO ALLIANCE bettween Spain,Greece, and Hungary was right. Our new Alliance will take affect in about six months Also trade has been begun bettween Spain and Greece.
To: The World
Subj: Spains Brazil
From: Jose Cube
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Spain's Brazil is growing again as I said about a year ago my explorers will dwelve deeper into the jungle and deeper they have gone, they have meet the limits of the Incan Border and the newly founded Scandinavian Colonly, Spain has claimed more land and now Jose Cube belives that no more land in Brazil can be clamed by us without war so this is our last land claim in Brazil.
Included is a map of spains Brazil as it currently is.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/spainsexpansion3.jpg
Dexter May 19, 2002, 05:02 AM Actions:
China has formally declared war upon Rome-Gual thus we are sending 200,000 troops to drive them out of India. We shall not leave the territory until Rome-Gual is defeated!
All hail China, all hail Tung!
To: Shanghai Pact Members
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: War In India
We request that you react by declaring war upon Rome-Gual and sending in your armies to deal with this problem immediatly.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
To: Tsar Nicholas
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Shanghai Pact
Nicholas our oldest and wisest ally, shall you join the Shanghai Pact to help ensure peace and prosperity between our nations?
All hail China, all hail Tung!
__LuFFaReN May 19, 2002, 05:09 AM Hungary:
Capitol City:Budapest
Govornment:Monarchy
Ruler:Attila the Great (__LuFFaReN)
Military strength:small army(demodernized)
Tech. Level:Early industrial age (as greece)
In war with:
MPPs:Greece and Spain (THE SEURO)
Attila the Great humbly thanks King Kefka of greece for Hungary
From:Attila thr Great (__LuFFaReN)
To:The World
Subject:THE SEURO
Hungary is in the same oppinion as Greece and Attila the great doesn´t want to interfeer with Rome-Gaul matters and Hungary is announcing that it is a peacekeeping country and wishes no war. Hungary is als announcing that if Greece goes to war Hungary will give them military support.
Orders:
1: Sending hungarian setllers to Africa to the cost of todays Kenya along with them 50.000 troops
2:Sending hungarian settlers to South America to the area where today Uruguay is found and along with them 25.000 troops
3:Mordernizing of hungarian royal army
uknemesis May 19, 2002, 05:31 AM Russia declares war upon Rome-Gaul.
400,000 troops are now boarding the Atlantic Fleet, where we hope we shall have the support of Shanghai Pact members in getting through the sea to land in Normany and Italy, forcing peace.
100,000 troops are now under the command of the Chinese in the war to remove the Rome-Gaul troops from India.
Russia will gladly enter the Shanghai Pact, on these terms:
1)Scandinavia is allowed to join as well.
2)The agreement is that if a nation is attacked, all of the Shanghai Pact will defend it, but if a nation declares war upon another, the other nations can refuse to aid them in it due to them being the agressor, or help if they want to.
This will mean that Russia can help defend free countries, and have added security herself, without having to get into a war should a warmongerer come to power in any of the Shanghai Pact nations.
We expect that part of the agreement to also extend to our ally, Scandinavia.
In return for joining, I request the secret of the ironclad from Germany, and in return will give them some of this thick black stuff we seem to be able to get from Siberia, oil or something it's called. Or whatever you want.
TO ALL THOSE IN MPPs WITH RUSSIA.
Due to Russia not wanting to be dragged into a war by warmongerers, all of Russia's MPPs are to be rewritten stating that Russia will only go to war if an ally is attacked. If an ally declares war upon another nation, then it will be up to the Tsar whether he will join in or not. If he doesn't, then it means no loss of face to Russia. This will hopefully encourage peace.
But for now, fight the Rome-Gaul tyrants!
Nicholas
Dexter May 19, 2002, 06:00 AM To: Russia
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Shanghai Pact
We happily accept your terms and welcome Russia and The Scandinavian Union as members of the Shanghai Pact.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
IceEye May 19, 2002, 07:00 AM TSU declares Rome-Gaul war.
75.000 troops and 5 ships sent to our african colony. Defenses readied in all of our colonies.
5 ships sent to help out the russian fleet going for Rome-Gaul
To: members of the Shanghai Pact
From: TSU
We gratefully thank all members of the Shanghai Pact for letting us join.
-King Karl Max I
Kushanis May 19, 2002, 09:03 AM With this new war breaking out the poulace was in an uproar, Radicals belived it was time for a new government..
Thanks to the Incas advance of Democracy, the Radicals had something to change too.
A revolution broke out in Madagascar, and a new government has been formed.
From this time forth the nation of Madagascar is no longer a Despotism, it is now a Democracy!
Jason The King May 19, 2002, 10:50 AM "Sir, the revolution in Madagascar was a success. They are now a Democracy!"
"That's great, now what of the Shangai pact?"
"Si,r Scandinavia and Russia has join."
"Who else in this pact?"
"We don't know, but I will ask Shang Tung.:
"Ok, great."
To: Tsar of Russia
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: War fleet to India
I am glad to see you aid our brothers in the fight for India. I have sent five ships, half my fleet, to the Indian Ocean to insure the safe passage of your men through the Indian Ocean. As of now, I do declare war on Rome-Gaul, but can not aid in the invasion force.
To: Shang Tung
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: India
I'm sorry, friend, but I just do not have the man power right now to aid you in India, as I have colonie to protect and my homeland is constantly expanding in a huge rate. I will, however support you in any economical way needed, just ask. Also, please send me a list of all the nations who are in our Shangai Pact. Thank you.
To: Madagascar
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: Trade and revolution
I am so happy to see your people finally free, and salute you for your brave decision to switch to a Democratic state. I have also just recieved your diamonds, and thank you for this gracious gift. Also, I am aware of the technology of the Ironclad floating around. Should you come across this technology, I would pay a hefty ransom for it. I am currently in the process of expanding and upgrading the Incan Navy. and require the technology to finish the job. Thank you.
das May 19, 2002, 11:30 AM On that day, 9th June, Karl Geberstein has abdicated, proclaiming that hew ants to die in field of battle. During the last month, the elections have continued, and Wilhelm Geusch, a hero of Germany, has decided that his first step would be war of Rome-Gaul. He also wants never to fight with Madagascar oru any other peace loving country again. Karl Geberstein goes to Front, in order to lead his new offensive, in order to cut Italy from Gaul, and then, take Rome.
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To Scandianvia; We cannot give away one of industrial bases of Germany: Jutland and Copenhagen Islands. We suggest that we will make the followign changes in Austrlia Treaty:
das May 19, 2002, 11:36 AM Two Rome-Gaullian Armies were holding this important point - the only Roman-Gaullian land link between Italia and Gaullia. One German Army lead by Karl Geberstein has attacked suddenly... The battle was bloody and over hundred thousands men have died. But the region as captured by Germans, thanks to the activating all of their reserces. Roman-Gaullian forces haev retreated, andstaretd to preapre a counterattack...
uknemesis May 19, 2002, 12:10 PM Originally posted by Jason The King
To: Tsar of Russia
From: Grand Inca
Sbj: War fleet to India
I am glad to see you aid our brothers in the fight for India. I have sent five ships, half my fleet, to the Indian Ocean to insure the safe passage of your men through the Indian Ocean. As of now, I do declare war on Rome-Gaul, but can not aid in the invasion force.
Thank you friend, but your ships would be more useful in the waters of Europe, where my Atlantic Fleet must force a way through the Rome-Gaul fleet to land my troops(400,000).
The troops going to India are going through Chinese terrirtory, as they have been placed under Chinese command(100,000 troops).
Nicholas
Dexter May 19, 2002, 12:46 PM Who is deciding the outcome of the battles? If das has a special method (like he mentioned before) then I feel it is only fair he shares it with us as his enemies might feel at a disadvantage and feel unfairly treated.
Thanks
Kushanis May 19, 2002, 01:02 PM General Mathama was unhappy.
He kenw his troops would take at least 6 weeks to reach the Roman colonies in africa, he would need an alternate mode of transportation.
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TO: The Incas
FROM: The Democratic Nation of South Africa
SUBJECT: The Roman presence in Africa
Greetings to our allies, the Inca, we humbly request your assistance torwards the Roman Colonies on the Coast of Africa.
We have currently sent 75,000 of our Elite troops to the Roman Colonies, we request that you send 25,000 of your troops to assist them.
With these troops we request you bring Axes, Carts, and anything else to make the journey faster.
The Romans must not be allowed to fortify there posistion.
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TO: The German People
FROM: The Democratic Nation of Madagascar
SUBJECT:Congratuations
We salute you on cutting off Italia from the rest of the mainland, while we cannot send troops to Europe ourselves, we hope that
this will more then compensate.
We will send you 15,000 gold coins for your expenses torward the war.
We hope that this may improve our relationship on an international scale.
SKILORD May 19, 2002, 02:41 PM Ireland likes the Australia proposal.
uknemesis May 19, 2002, 03:16 PM As a sign of goodwill, and to relieve Russian garrisons(which I forgot to do anyway!), I am handing all of Russia's colonies to Scandinavia.
Nicholas
CONRAD May 19, 2002, 03:28 PM King Pamplemousse XIV was rather angrified. He had sent armies to the area the germans took, then ordered an assault on the Rhinelands. 350000 men in all, the rest were in India & Ivory coast. India didn't seem to matter much anymore, but it was about pride, dammit.
There had also been problems. There had been something of an uprising in the gaul part of the empire, with the gaullian monarch leading. (rome-gaul is a dual monarchy, remember)
He had ordered the Gaullian monarch to be killed, as well as his family. Gaullian nationalists would not be tolerated. All persons spreading ideas of a seperate Gaul would be killed, and any books spreading the idea would be burned. Rome-Gaul would now be a police state.
IceEye May 19, 2002, 04:35 PM To: Russia
From: TSU
We gratefully accept control of russian colonies. As a token of our gratitude(spelling?) we will lower the iron prices and we will also let Russian battleships dock in Scandinavian harbors anytime. To support the invasion of Rome-Gaul we will set up big material and food deposits in Oslo that Russia can use instead of transporting supplies all the way from Russia.
To: Madagascar
From: TSU
We have allready prepared an offensive towards the roman colonies in Africa. We soon have 100.000 troops and a big number of ships attacking the colonies. Lets coordinate our armies and attack together en mass!!
To: Germany
From: TSU
We accept the new map of Australia if:
-we get the secret of the IRONCLAD
-we sign a MPP only for Australia and areas surounding
-Germany sends veteran officers to train my troops
- King Karl Max I of TSU
Jason The King May 19, 2002, 09:11 PM To: Madagascar
From: Grand Inca
I acknoledge your plea for troops, gracious ally, and 25,000 troops are on thier way to your island, and I put them under your control. As for our own offensive, I am sending another 200,000 troops on their way to invade the colonies directly. Happy rulling.
To: Russia
From: Grand Inca
My apologies, the Naval assistance our on their way to the Meditteranean sea, where they will escort your ships to Italy, or to Narmandy, if needed.
To: Rome-Gaul
From: Grand inca
Unless you surrender now, my people declare war upon your pugnacious nation. I suggest, with the world versus you, to not hesitate to long.
To: Germany
From: Grand Inca
I quickly accept the terms to the Australian colonization peace efforts.
Erik Mesoy May 19, 2002, 10:04 PM IceEye, have you been copyine me? Take a look at the "I know, I know, another NES" thread. I also pulled a scandinavia.
crabapple May 20, 2002, 02:57 AM TO: Karl Max I ruler of the scandinavian union
Finland demands independence from the TSU
crabapple May 20, 2002, 02:59 AM This is what the finish people demand:
Kefka May 20, 2002, 03:03 AM THATS RIGHT THE OLYMPIC GAMES WILL BE HELD IN ATHENS IN 1808 (Wedsday) and will continue to be held every 7 years (every wedsday) Greece is now asking all countrys who wish to participate to tell me so and give the name of one event from you home country that you wish to add. (it don't matter what, you can make it up if you want ex: mabey Callifornia enjoys the event of surfing and they could add that, or the Americans could add the event of cow tipping.
RECAP: to participate let me know by wedsday and tell me a sport or event of your country. (I will automaticly add countrys which have no humman leader)
the results of the Olympics will be posted by me on Wedsday.
and to quote das "I will use my secret system to determine the results"
oh yea dont say anyother sport or event named by someone else.
SKILORD May 20, 2002, 04:42 AM Ireland will compete in ...... wajt what do they play in Ireland?
My Irish freind loves basketbal sothat'll be my sport.
btw: i'm in
IceEye May 20, 2002, 04:59 AM 100.000 scandinavian troops and 8 battle ships make landing north of Rome-Gauls african colony and attack. At the same time 75.000 troops from madagascar appear from the jungle and attack from the south. The generals of Madagascar and Scandinavia have now created a 2 front war in the african colony that belongs to Rome-Gaul.
VanillaCube May 20, 2002, 06:00 AM To: King Kefka de Greece
Subj: Spain will join the Olympics
From: Jose Cube de Espaina
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Hola mi amigo King Kefka
Muy Gracious por el SEURO Alliance y Espaina quieres jugar un futbol (no futbol de American) in la Olympico
NOTE:Sorry I felt that since I was being spain I should at least try some spanish so sorrry if my verbs are not congigated the right way or my spelling is bad or I just no make so sense at all but hey at least I tried. ;)
anyway what I was trying to say was.....
Hello my freind King Kefka
Many thanks for the SEURO Alliance and spain wants to play Football (not American football) in the Olympics.
uknemesis May 20, 2002, 06:32 AM Russia will do skiing, since we should be damned good at it, we've got plenty of snow and plenty of mountains!
Look forward to seeing you all there, I will attend the Olypmics personally, and hope you will all do the same.
In that way, I hope I will meet the leader of Rome-Gaul and try and talk peace with him.
My most likely offer will be that he removes all his troops from India and lets that nation be free again in return for all his land back, so that he doesn't have to lose face which is the most common cause of a war.
But that same treaty could have come at the beginning, but a shame his arrogance made us all go to war...
Nicholas
IceEye May 20, 2002, 09:03 AM Scandinavia will attend in Ice-Hockey.
To: Finnish leader
From: TSU
Why don´t you come to Stockholm so we can discuss this matter?
I am sure we can reach a solution to this problem.
Jason The King May 20, 2002, 09:06 AM To: Olympic holder....
From: Grand Inca
I will definetly join the olympics. I will send my athletes along with the sport of Race Rock Climbing.
The Incan troops finally reach the Roman colony, and recieves heavy resistance from the coast. Two ships were sunk, along with 30,000 troops. All in all, the 200,000 troops finally make a landing, 50,000 troops were destroyed, and only 3 ships remain. This, though, was the last stronghold of the Romans in their colonies.
Dexter May 20, 2002, 09:06 AM To: Olympic Committee
From: Supreme General Shang Tung
Subj: Entrance
We shall donate the ancient skills of Karate and Kung-Fu as a sport for the tournament. Along with Tsar Nicholas, I too shall personally attend the competition in a hope to seesome brilliant action!
All hail China, all hail Tung!
I take it that 100 metres sprint, swimming and all the track & field stuff is already a part of the competition?
Kushanis May 20, 2002, 09:33 AM [OOC - Oh come on.. a Nation that just got independence wants to split off agian? ]
Madagascar will participate in Wrestling and Track.
__LuFFaReN May 20, 2002, 10:32 AM To:Olympic holder
From: Hungary
The hungarian athletes would like to compete in Water polo because they rock at it
crabapple May 20, 2002, 10:53 AM [OOC - but scandinavia has never been a country Kushanis it is a group of countries in a union. It repeats history when finland want become independent, the same thing append when finland become independent from russia]
TO:Karl Max I leader of TSU
from: Mannerheim I leader of the finnish people
But I dont think I want to come to stockholm to discuss becouse I can be inprisoned there and we can discuss this by messages. The reasons are my people want independence is many, first the finnish people dont like the conflict with Rome-Gaul, and we dont like the type of government the TSU have, the finnish people want Republic and freedom. The finnish people got a taste of freedom when the TSU got seperated from russia, and now they want more freedom. I hope Karl Max is a wise leader that gives us independence.
IceEye May 20, 2002, 11:14 AM To: Mannerheim I
From: King Karl Max I
The Scandinavian Union is going to stay what it is - a union.
If I let Finland seperate from the union so will other territorys eventually.
The war with Rome-Gaul is justified. I can not watch as a free country gets invaded. The world needs to state an example.
I see now that the people of TSU need more freedom. We will form into a Republic with me as Consul and create a senate that will have much power. I invite you to join this senate. Any further actions from Finland separatists will from now on be seen as a threat to the National(union) security and will dealt with accordingly.
And Mannerheim: Only a little % of the finnish people support you. Most, including the soldiers and officers, want the union to stay whole.
For Security:
I suggest all nations withdraw their civilians from Finland. I will also soon close the borders to Finland.
uknemesis May 20, 2002, 11:20 AM I fear that Scandinavia becoming too fractured could create a land ripe for enemies of Russia to exploit, and so I support a single country in Scandinavia, the TSU, which fairly represents all of the nations in it as far as I am concerned.
The only way Russia would agree to letting Finland be independent is by it joining a defence pact with Scandinavia and Russia, and possibly joining the Shanghai Pact. It should also allow Scandinavia to retain a border with Russia.
Nicholas
PS: In return for the supply bases lent to me by Scandinavia, I am sending 250,000 troops there to defend them from Rome-Gaul invasion. I place these troops under the command of Karl Max, so that Russian supply lines will not be disrupted. This however means that Karl must feed them until the crisis is over and the troops can all return home.
IceEye May 20, 2002, 11:39 AM As soon as the 250.000 troops sent to Scandinavia from Russia were placed under the control of Scandinavia they were spread out over Finland. All over Finland russian soldiers arrested and executed suspect finnish revolutionaries and separatists. Near Helsinki an army of around 50.000 finnish farmers demanding the independence for Finland was defeated and the survivors executed. The corpses of the separatists were piled up on the town squares of citys and towns in Finland and were then burnt.
The number of dead finnish terrorists was counted to 65.000.
Russian dead - 628
Royal Scandinavian Army dead - 856
A memorial was created over the dead russian and Scandinavian soldiers.
Mannerheim The First and Last managed to flee in a small ship. There is reason to suspect he fled to Rome.
Finnish borders are once again open as Finland is once again safe.
uknemesis May 20, 2002, 11:47 AM I am appalled and angry that my troops have been abused in such a way, and their leader will be court martialled on his return to Russia. Dead Russians would have been forgivable if they had been defending Scandinavia, but not in as mercenaries in a civil war.
I am disappointed in my neighbour, and so I am pulling my troops back out of Scandinavia. They will march from Finland back across the Russian border now.
I send a personal word of sorrow to all those who have lost loved ones in the Scandinavian civil war, but secretly breathe a sigh of relief that a region so near to Russia has stabilised once more.
Nicholas
das May 20, 2002, 12:04 PM TO EVERYONE WHO SENT ME ANY DEALS: I agree... Plus, to Scandinavian Union, we will send GED to FInland, in roder to help you put down this rebellion.
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THE WAR:
Battle at Genoa: In a long and bloody battle, the Germans have prevailed, but much of their Italian Offensive is exhausted.
Battle at Mosel: A draw.
Deployement: Much of German reserves in Saxony and the troops on Russian and Hungarian borders are sent to the front.
uknemesis May 20, 2002, 12:14 PM das, you're forgetting the battle for India(unless that's where Mosel is, I don't have a clue!), and my landings in Normany and Sicily(250,000 troops at Normandy then head to Paris, 150,000 in Sicily then head north).
Also, I have sent 100,000 men to aid the Chinese in India.
I have 500,000 troops left in Russia, now that my men have withdrawn from Finland.
Seventeen ships support the landings(My Atlantic, Baltic and Black Sea Fleets) while my Pacific Fleet(8 ships) goes to India to help bombard the shore.
When the war is finished, all will return home, after making sure that India is independent and free, and Rome-Gaul is reinstated as a nation after it's defeat.
Nicholas
IceEye May 20, 2002, 12:18 PM -The Royal Scandinavian Navy is now being upgraded to Ironclads and enlarged to support our new colonies
-The Royal Scandinavian Army is starting to train with the veteran german officers and will soon be veterans themselves
Scandinavia returns to Monarchy after a vote in the Senate
To: Russia
Don´t forget the 5 scandinavian ships supporting your fleet.
CONRAD May 20, 2002, 01:31 PM There was much unrest in Rome-Gaul. The people of Gaul did not appreciate the assassination of their Monarch, and the people were war-weary. But, King Pamplemousse XIV was determined to go ahead with the war.
He had instated executions for dissenters. This really only served to angrify the people even more. But still, the King went on.
"The people are a fickle lot," he stated. "Democracies never do the right thing."
Rome-Gaul would go on with this holy war.
That is, until an angry mob stormed the King's palace in Rome, taking the King out to be tried for crimes against the people. The mob hurriedly sent out messages to the world asking for peace, stating that India can be free from Rome-Gaullian rule.
The Nobility and imperial military would not stand for this.
REVOLUTION
Toasty May 20, 2002, 01:48 PM Proclaimation of the Srivajayan Monarchy
The war on Rome-Gaul should be called off. The rebels should be aided, India granted it's independence, and the whole mess solved.
I didn't expect my proclaimation to raise such a fuss!
SKILORD May 20, 2002, 01:54 PM Ireland has been quiet for a while..... i think i have evil secret plans
SKILORD May 20, 2002, 01:56 PM i might be wrong though
Kushanis May 20, 2002, 03:39 PM TO: The Nations at War with Rome-Gaul
FROM: The Democracy of Madagascar
SUBJECT: Rome-Gaul
The Government of Madagascar agrees with the Government of Srivajayan. Untill the Revolution is resolved, our forces should order a cease fire.
Jason The King May 20, 2002, 03:53 PM To every nation at war with Rome-Gaul
From: Grand Inca
I agree with Madagascar and Srivajaya, we must withdraw our forces to avoid international problems. My forces are already on ships off teh coast of the Rome-Gaul colonies right now, and will not set foot until war is redeclared.
To:Rome-Gaul rebels and nationalists
From: Grand Inca
Well done in the assasination of the corrupt Monarchy king. My people offer the Democracy way of life, and any support you may ask for.
uknemesis May 20, 2002, 04:56 PM The Rome-Gaul revolt sounds a bit suspicious to me, like someone may be pulling the rebel's strings(OOC: :p). But I accept that they must be given a chance, and as they are willing to let India be free, then I order my troops and ships home, even those helping China, unless the Rome-Gaul military refuses to support the new government. In that scenario, I order half of my army(500,000 men) to be put under Rome-Gaul's command to destroy the traitorous army, and help arrest any troublesome aristocrats, as well as guarantee free elections.
Nicholas
IceEye May 21, 2002, 04:53 AM I wont order cease fire in R-Gs colonies. Rome-Gaul had it´s chance. My troops are still attacking the colony in Africa with or without help from Madagascar!
(ooc: das pls post the result of my attack 100.000 men and 8 ships attack that african colony)
King Karl Max I
Jason The King May 21, 2002, 09:00 AM To: Scandinavia
From: Grand Inca
I suggest that you withdraw from the colonies. Rome-Gaul has basically surrendered, and if you do not cease you operations, I might have to intervine. Please, rethink your statements.
To: Madagascar
From: Grand Inca
Hello ole friend. I see our neighbor, Rome Gaul is under attack in their colonies, even after they might offer peace. I believe we must help the helpless men, women and children in the colonies by ordering that the Scandinavians withdraw!
IceEye May 21, 2002, 09:11 AM To: Grand Inca and Madagascar
From: King Karl Max I
Honorable leaders of Madagascar and Inca, the Military of R-G does NOT support the new leaders of R-G. Therefore I am continueing my attack(100.000 men and 8 ships) until the military asks for peace and hands over all military ships, guns, cannons etc to me. Any interference from either of you and I will have to consider as a declaration of war!
King Karl Max I
Dexter May 21, 2002, 09:18 AM When will I get the results of the Indian invasion?
Top Secret Report
Supreme General,
Our offensive in India is now under way. We have just been reinforced with the 100,000 Russian Troops and as you requested they shall be making up the front lines.
They are making a great sacrafice for China!
Further more we have intercepted all Russian messages concerning their withdrawl from the area. Victory is assured, India shall belong to China.
All hail China, all hail Tung!
End Message
SKILORD May 21, 2002, 10:15 AM Ireland takes this time to declare it's neutrality
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