I noticed in Das' NES II thread some some people wondering about the concepts of an NES game. DAS has the credit for the game concept and can fill in any details that I miss. While the title of this thread states newbies, the concept of the game is about 1 week old thus making us all newbies.

In short, the players are the leaders in set countries. The founder of any NES game will list the countries available to play, this list will grow and as revolutions come and go. Each country can make treaties and deals with other nations, ie: the trade, technology or even the division of unexplored land.

All the is asked in return is some common curtesy with the other players and to try to keep things as realistic as possible. In Das' NES II game, he has asked that 1 real life day is equal to 1 game year. For example today May 6th is the year 1783, tomorrow, May 7th is 1784 and so on (use of the year in this thread is NOT the actual year is NES II, just an example.)

Other rules and updates of the map and country status are on the first post and update as often as the game leader can get around to it. Any posts that are made in the thread are expected to become common knowledge. Reseach and tech advances must have some sort of continuity, you just can not come out and say that you have bombers when there has been nothing leading up to it. Any private comuniques between nations (players) can be done via PM or e-mail, I perfer PM myself.

In these NES games, almost anything goes, although we would like to be civil about it. The NES thread with at least 15 pages is the first game to get underway and if anyone wants to browse through it, there is nothing stopping you (except for the 15 pages of posts):crazyeye:

Anyother of our active participants in any games can feel free to add their coments.

Sealman
aka Tzar Alekzandr Romanov (NES)
aka King Ramses VII (NES II)
aka King Constintine (SNES)

If you are playing on a world map, Buy an Atlas.

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If you are keeping your breakthroughs tied down to time (i.e. Advances are made very close to when they are made in real life), then bring a world history book.

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COMBINATION OF THE ABOVE: Find out as many facts as you can about your Nation or that region as you can relative to that time.

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If you are playing a modern age game, remeber the consequences of war, and the possibility of nuclear strikes.

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War is not always the answer.

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Prime Minister Elizabeth Tudor (Never-Ending Story)
Prime Minister Johnathan Sanford (NES)
British Leader, Name not decided (NES II)

Go for it: it's only a game.
Diplomacy is key!
Be sure to buy everyting that Sixchan reccomended
don't go too far, keep it real
help develop the rules

Sir napoleon in SNES
President Darius in NES
Prime Minister Grace in NESII
King Regan in Another NES

shouldn't this thread be sticky?

*SKILORD waves his arms to get the attention of aq Moderator

I've been reading a few of these things, and I was wondering: what's the official stance on "small players" popping in and writing up non-decision-making descriptive tidbits?

Am I the only Chancellor on this thread?

Oh yes, and Uknemsis really should have the credit for the concept.

Das, you made the NES concept, I just made the never-ending story concept.

The original never-ending story was just that, a never ending story. You were the one who made it into a game for all to play, NES(I always think of never ending story as a story written by loads of people, and NES as the games being played on here).

So these NESs are your concept, and good idea it was too, I'm just about to set one up myself, one with a simplified tech level, but more regulated, with me as an impartial judge when it comes to combat.

Nemesis

We should probably post a list of the most common NES rules, like the army sizes that were adopted in the first NES.

It's important that you don't get too carried away or patriotic with regards to your country, as that may lead to some rather ludicrous leaps in technology and army sizes.

I suppose non-decision making tidbits could be quite fun, in fact. Add a little life to the story. Just don't swarm us with it, and let us know at the top of the post wether it's releant or not.

Don't overpost. That's what happened to the first NES. Every day, two pages were added, and it became impossible for the leader (the venerable Das) to keep it updated.

I would also suggest that posters indicate which country they are currently playing. Makes keeping track of who you are responding to easier.

I feel important with a 'sticky' :cool:

Yes, but the inspiration for NES and my other NESes was in the original Never Ending Story. So I guess NES has two fathers:
Uknemsis and me.

1. Where's a map of the world (including Europe, and other maps)? I've seen them used in NES's.

2. What's to stop someone from saying "I've been secrectly building an army of 2 million people. I just used nukes on XYZ country and conquered it. End of story."?

1. It's Das's map, but here's what I started with when I made the very first UKNES map:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/worldmapbitmap.zip

2. The "reality police" as they're known. Basically, if someone does something stupid, that post is ignored by general agreement. If they continue to be stupid, then they're booted from the game.

Nemesis

Destroy all weaker nations! :evil:

Destroy nations as early as possible because later you'll know everyone making it more likely that nations will help the nation you are assimilating.

:evil: :soldier: :tank: :soldier: :tank: :evil:

Emperor Puglover of the Aztecs

King Puglover of the Iroquois

This is a link from Jason The King:

Varant Bank (http://www.variantbank.com/) - Many maps (called Variants) are listed in this site. (Hey, I answered my own newbie question I asked 8 months ago! :p)

hmm, looks was reading through here and noticed that it needs a huge update, lol. And since I am bored right now, I will try and do it.

NES CONCEPTS FOR NEWBEES.

First of all, NES's are broken down into two categories: game nes's and story nes's. You must be careful when joining, as these are two totally different kinds of nes's. I will use my own games as examples of the two kinds. Here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55637) is a JNES board game nes. Here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48445) is a story nes. To distinguish which is which, you can generally tell by just the name. Most story nes's have the prefix of St in the name (example: StJNES), which board games don't (example: JNES). The exception is the RTOR series, which is a story nes series.

Board games generally are based off of Diplomacy by Avalon Hill. You individually build units, and move them to provinces. You have a set money income, and many math caluculations (though most of them are done by the moderator), and a fair, calculated battle system. Story games are more laid back, with less strategy generally needed, and more of a reading and writing experience. Your country is at the mercy of the mod who decides who wins battles, random events, and other major things.

Update usually are about every three days, depending on the mod. Updates are specific to the genre of nes, story or board.

The most important thing when you join an NES is to read the rules on the front page. If you don't understand them, you can always contact me on AIM JJ Giantsfan3000 or by PM and I'll help you with any of my nes's rules, or anyone else's that I understand.

-----------------Basic Story NES Rules---------------------
These rules are based on the majority of the story nes's that start and pass. Many tho, have ammendments to these rules, and it's best that you read the front page of every nes before you join.

Generally, you get to pick your starting location on the map, and sometimes you get to make up your own nation. You also usually have a template to copy and paste, and to fill out.

Updates in Story NES's are basically an updated map based on all the player's orders, an update to the fist page where all the stats are (like a player orders for their army to be increased, so the mod edits their template on the front page) and to write about any battles that took place, etc.

Your military is in the basis of levels, such as the StJNES levels of Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Very Large, Gigantic, and Imperial. To upgrade a stat, you just need to say in your orders. Your orders are to be posted each turn before an update, if their secret you can usually PM to the mod. The military levels are basically how large that certain branch of military is. In some nes's, it takes an economy level to increase one military branch, but in many others you can do two per economy level.

Your economy is basically the level of how much you can increase other stats. Basically, most other stats take an economy level to upgrade. Usually, you want to keep your economy high. Also, usually in most nes's it takes you can not upgrade anything else when you upgrade your economy.

There are various other stats that vary from every nes. Education usually is how fast you can reach another age of technology (at the descretion of the MOD), confidense is becoming a stat that reflects how much you write stories, and culture is usually how happy your people are.

The Story nes's players expect stories. They may not expect a story every turn, but it is a good idea to write a small story, maybe three paragraphs every other turn to carry on the nes.

-----------------Basic Game NES Rules---------------------
These nes's are much more harder to generalize, as most of them are different in large ways. But I will write the basics.

The Map is not blank like in story nes's. Instead the land is divided into provinces, which are numbered or named. Provinces decides how much money you make (like on province you own gives you 4 credits a turn, or something like that).

You give orders by PM. Usually the MOD will provide a template in the front page of how orders should be like, but sometimes that is not present. This is where you spend your credits. Usually you can buy armies for a set price (like one army is 3c), or other units (like fleets or airplanes). You must make sure you have enough money for what you want, and you must say where you build them (what province). Then you must move them (individual) to provinces if you wish. You can also move your other units. You can also attack should you want to another nation.

Usually in these games you dont have nation stats or anything, just the map. On updates, the MOD will update the map with troop positions on the map, and usually how much money each nations has to spend that turn.

These games are also more fragile. Meaning you shoudl NOT join if you are going to quit. The MOD needs as many players as they can get, so they dont have to move for NPC's (non player countries). It is very important that you get your orders in every turn.

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Hmm, i think that is it. We will definetly get replies to this ;). I wish for everyone to add in what they think i missed. Oh, and if you think your not wanted here, think differently. We always want more players, or why would I taken time to write this?

Happy nes'ing.

-Jason

Worded very well, Jason. :goodjob:

Well said Jason. Tips for modding an NES:
-Be sure you are committed to regularly updating your NES (some of us, including me at times need to work on this)
-Ask veteran mods for help (Jason, EQ, uknemesis, SKILORD, possibly me) for ideas on how to make your NES work.
-Try thinking of new ideas for NESes, don't stick to doing the same basic start at 4000BC NES or the regular rules board NES. Think of something creative to do, such as UKNESIV (remade by Jason, JNESXII). Try to think of your own rules or additions to existing rulesets, don't just copy something entirely.
-Try not to start an NES until you have played a few of that genre and have been playing for a month or two. This should really help you get a feel for the game.
-Lastly, do not attempt to mod over two games unless you are absolutely sure you can handle it. I still try to mod one game at a time because I am often busy in RL.

If you need any ideas, I will start an NES registry thread soon, with links to every NES current and past. Hope this helps.

Naervod

Mod of NANES4
Egypt in RTOR2
Spain in stJNES4
Slovenia in JNESXIII
Yugoslavia in 1920 NES
Brunei in stFMNES2
Turkestan in stK1NES#1

"I'm a Marxist anti-conservative, and proud of it."

Amen.

Heres a good tip:


DONT. PISS. OFF. EREZ.


;) :lol:

:lol:
:rofl:

Another rule:

This is to have fun and write stories, not to win.

Though it does feel good when you do. :D

this feels very outdated...

What color programs do you guys use?

paint. Windows paint.

This NES thing sounds kind of like Calvinball from the comics...Definitely an interesting concept, even if I haven't the patience, creativity, and imagination to play...

Although this may sound incerdibly stupid, do NESes ever end? If not (I doubt they do), than who wins?

They die if players or mods loose interest.

figured, as i've done a post for the Mods thread, i'd do one for here too.
as i was writing this it turned into a "DOs and DONTs".

1. dont join a game without understanding the rules.
2. dont join a game if you cant meet the time commitment (ie wont have the time to do orders/stories)
3. dont join a game if you're going away on vacation in a week and wont be back for a month
4. do engage your neighbors in diplomacy early. sometimes you wont have the time to negotiate a treaty the turn you need it, so its better to have it in advance. plus it makes the game more interactive earlier and makes more possibilities for backstabbing.
5. do do your orders/story as soon as possible. dont wait for what others post/say unless its absolutely neccessary. your orders in most cases should be a reaction to the update, not to stuff that happens afterwards.
6. do try to aquire a "in game personality" (wheather one for all NESs or a different for each) as it makes the game much more fun, both for you and the others involved (players and mods)
7. do not challenge the MOD's decision/action unless it is contrary to the writen rules of the game. it is after all his/her game, and doing so will only start a flame war, which can kill the game (then you still dont get your way).
8. do challenge the MOD's decisions/actions if they are contrary to the rules of the game, cause it might just be an oversite or the mod didnt remember his own rules (with how often rules get rewriten here, that happens), and the mod will probably change it. might be better to do it in a PM then a post just in case though.
9. do not threaten to quit a game (either leave or stay). this usualy makes for a flame war reguarding the reason for your leaving.
10. do not ask if the game is dead unless there realy has been no activity for a long time (like a week). more then one game has been killed because someone asked "is this dead" after 2 days without an update, even though people were sending orders and all, cause then a lot of other people assumed that it was dead, and it died from inactivity one they stoped checking the thread.

5. do do your orders/story as soon as possible. dont wait for what others post/say unless its absolutely neccessary. your orders in most cases should be a reaction to the update, not to stuff that happens afterwards.

hmm, don't fully agree to that. it is not just a reaction to the update. perhaps you should get the normal orders you would do for that turn (increase army, economy, expand, etc) just so you have some orders in, and then you can edit them later if need be.

6. do try to aquire a "in game personality" (wheather one for all NESs or a different for each) as it makes the game much more fun, both for you and the others involved (players and mods)
7. do not challenge the MOD's decision/action unless it is contrary to the writen rules of the game. it is after all his/her game, and doing so will only start a flame war, which can kill the game (then you still dont get your way).

Very very good advice.

9. do not threaten to quit a game (either leave or stay). this usualy makes for a flame war reguarding the reason for your leaving.

This one is the best. It also backs what I always say. It is a player's privilege to be in the game, not the mod's privilege to have you. Remember that.

NESes must be in English. Even the subthreads. So speaketh the Chieftess.

Are fallouts just for people that were in the original game, or can new people join?

You can join if you want. You can take one of the open nations.

OKay thanks!

Yes, in MOST NESes people can alwaya join.

THIS THREAD IS ALIVE AGAIN!!!!

N3rc0! Dude! You dirty n3rc0 poster!

Cool! I'm going to start my own NES thing!

Cool! I'm going to start my own NES thing!

I seriously doubt that you are ready for that yet.

What do you mean, Renoz?

Ummm...
I'm not sure if you've been a NESing veteran or not, but I'm assuming this is your first time in the NES forums?
Before you start your own NES, you should gain experience playing and all that first. God knows, I just started my own NES and it does take quite a bit of work, and knowledge which I never had when I first joined a few months back...

I would like to add another tip to all those new NESers out there.

Never upload your strategic plans onto the CivFanatics Uploads. Use Photobucket, or Yahoo or your own website.

I just stumbled on a pile of very interesting maps there.....

lol^

Since we are sharing some tips, here's a good one I just formulated:

"Expect everything on the first turn".

It applies to all, but "Fresh Start" NESes. When your alliances are green, relations unclear and goals not shown, players tend to do crazy things to each other to gain advantages: strike first, betray their allies to gain control, or favours of other stronger allies, incite rebellions in the neighbouring lands so that you are left alone while neighbours deal with rebellions. A lot of crazy things often happen at first turn and you better be ready for anything that might happen. Even if it is the least expected.

H0w can i Join a nes?, e-mail the Mod?

no, just go to thread and say which nation you want to play, and thats it.

Really? and how do i start a nes?

uhm, I think that you should take part of couple NESes since you'll need more experience before you start your own NES.

Ok, thanks.

I'm a bit suprised that nobody has warned people about Von Dunkelheit/Stalin 006 and his habit to Nuke the world to tiny bits. ;)

This is why i don't play in modern world NES :p He can't nuke me if he doesn't have nukes :D

ah!.
melpomene is a fake. forget his posts...... impersonating me.....

I'm a bit suprised that nobody has warned people about Von Dunkelheit/Stalin 006 and his habit to Nuke the world to tiny bits. ;)

OOOH! If I ever get my hands on that Von Dunkelheit... Dunno. He's pretty annoying, and stalin scary besides. Nasty combo.

do you guys play NES with the civ3 game? i would like to start but it seems so confusing and... did i say confusing?

I just started 11 days ago and I get most of it now. Just jump in, and you'll learn fast enough. Try this one. The rules are fairly simple in it compared to others. StKNES5 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=121845&page=1&pp=20)

how do i start? lol you are right is a little more simple once i read through half of it instead of just staring and saying "that's impossible"

Join my NES or Renos's (my first time modding, reno i'm not sure what hes like :/)

My kinda development thread, rules about page 4, Map and stats being updated throughout.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126115

Renos's one hes got everything but the stats ready to go.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126365

Basically hes waiting for Insane Panda, and i'm waiting for Insane Panda and Warlord.

I suggest you join a couple though, plunge in at the deep end and you get a pretty good grip of things.

HINT:read the rules

To join a Nes, look for a nation template on the first page, somewhere within the rules. It would look something like this.

Nation:
Player:
Capital:
Government:
Population:
Economy:
Education:
Age:
Army:
Navy:
UU:
Religion:
Culture:
Confidence:
Projects:

Just copy and paste the Nes' nation template in a post, editing in your nation's name, capital, ruler (a.k.a you), etc. and post. In some Nes', you may just have to choose a nation from a list.

OK quick question:

Say I am running a NES (not here, private)....but how do I calculate battles...winning, loosing, etc?

but how do I calculate battles...winning, loosing, etc?

Depends on a variety of factors...

Terrain, How preciace the battle orders were, Tactics used, training and troops ammounts. Stuff like that. Use common sense.

Thanks for the help!

Is a NES a single player game or multiplayer?

Each player owns a country, is it played like a PBEM?

Essentially, a game is run by a moderator, with multiple players. There is a given time between updates, during which players interact diplomatically with one another, and write stories if they so choose. After that given time, they submit orders to the mod based on the rules of the NES. These include internal growth, military actions, and so on. The mod then, using all these orders, creates an update which shows how the situation has changed. From there, you repeat.

Own join my historical After 1919 NEs :) its a historical starting point of the nes, which might be easier? And anyway i look kindly on at you cause its my first chance at modding :)

Thanks for the offer, but I'm more of an SG person. I was just curius about the big NES thing.

I noticed ( I just lurk there :) )

Own. NES has NOTHING to do with single player, mutltiplayer, PBEM or CIV3 at all... It's here cause the first countries in NES's were only CIV3 countries... now it's somthimes not even real countries! (Antigot, Entira, what else I made up? there was one more... I forgot it's name)

Read someof the NES's to see what nes is :)

I've read some of them, couldn't understand anything.

I like civ, so I'll stick to SG's :) .

JOIN!

MUWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

yes we're all insane here.

Don't make him join unless he wants to. People lurk for about a month before deciding to join or leave forever. Just wait :)

Im lurking here too, for about a week now. Not sure if i should join one as i would like to start a brand spanking new one with somebody :) start from scratch and learn on the way. Im still trying to grasp these rules though :(

It's probably better to get playing experience first, if only a little bit. (A month or two)

question:how is it decided how much population, army, confidence, econimy, and education u start out with.Do u have a certain number of EP and u spent it on those things, is it random, does the mod decide?

The mod would decide at the begining of the NES, or when a new person joins, what their stats are.

YAY, I finally understand evrything, except a bit on the subject of how battles work. But the only way to learn that is by playing....

Am I 5th generation?

urrr no, I think I was 5th Gen.

Hmm, you're sixth or seventh.

Sixth was... I believe from spring or summer 2005 to the arrival of CivIV, which brought in a new group, who could be called the seventh generation.

I agree with Iggy. I think myself, Iggy, Kentharu, and a couple others (can't think of who right now) would be 6th. Swiss, Harleqin, Justokre, TerisH, Royal, and Azale would be 7th (there might be others, but I can't think of who right now). If you want a list of 7th generation, then all you really need to do is take a look at the players list for my NES. ;)

Azale is like 3rd generation , not 5th. :lol:

There is a list in one of those threads...

I was about to say that. He's just returned back to NESing.

Own. NES has NOTHING to do with single player, mutltiplayer, PBEM or CIV3 at all... It's here cause the first countries in NES's were only CIV3 countries... now it's somthimes not even real countries! (Antigot, Entira, what else I made up? there was one more... I forgot it's name)

Read someof the NES's to see what nes is :)

My favorite, erez! Takir!

It's probably better to get playing experience first, if only a little bit. (A month or two)

I'll just tell of my very own start. I got dragged in by Toteone (let us not mention him anymore in the NES forum, 'key?) and joined a NES. I recall only two things: being confused with the rules and being afraid of stalin. But I enjoyed every update, although I nearly died in the end as Quebec. Just try to keep a low profile when you're a newbie. Some NESers do not have scruples when it comes to backstabbing unsuspecting rookies. I should know. ;)

Oh, and just curious, but what generation am I? I returned to the forum this fall...

7-8th possibly? Probably 7th. But then its not realy taken that seriously.

Its about your abilities after a couple of NES's you get a reputation etc.

Dachs is a good case in point I think he joind just before me (might be mixing him for somebody else here e-heh) and I'm worried if i have to fight him. Other notables from the newer bunch (well for me) are: Lord Iggy, Israelite9191 and i swear theres more but its getting late here :D.

(that is mostly a commitment thing i DO NOT WANT to send a couple of pages of orders, i think i can do fairly well on my own with my shorter orders, of course the mods can tell you what i'm like and prob have a better idea being able to compare orders....)

Eh? It appeared on this forum. The first generation was... hmm.... UkNemesis, Toasty, SKILORD, JasontheKing, Ice Eye, Sheep2, Erik Mesoy, EQandCivfanatic, Sixchan, das and some others. There seems to be a second generation I missed, but I am not very sure of that. The third generation is erez (okay, maybe he was in the first generation, don't remember now), Amirsan, stalin006, Feanor (supposedly) and then some. Not sure about North King, Stormbringer and GlobalNexus, I think they should be third (but SB apparently appeared, then disappeared and finally appeared again, the last one happened already when I came back and I didn't know him previously). Fourth generation is Xen, Amenhotep7, Gelion, silver2039, fantasmo, Toteone and many others. Too long a list.

I'll add to this. In my opinion, Fifth Generation should be the group of people who joined since the beginning of 2005 to the middle of summer 2005. Generation six is the small influx of NESers who joined from summer 2005 to the release of CivIV. Israelite, Kentharu, Me, and... TerrisH, The_Strategos, tommy_toon, sheesh, I can't think of anyone more. And the current generation is # 7. 8th generation has yet to come.

The 8th generation is currently lurking around the forum, mustering their courage to join! :D That's you! Come and join the fun!

From the second generation when das was absent: erez, warman, toasty, kennelly etc?

Should we make a formal list with dates?

Woot, I'm the more inconspicuous of the sixth generation. At least I think I am, I joined right before Lord Iggy came maybe . . . meh, whenever I posted in Kam's Nes is when I joined.

I put you in the list tommy_toon. I knew I'd forget someone!

Reading all this talk about NES generations made me dig up my very firt post in the NES forum. It was on page 9 of Warman's Red Alert NES.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=1893342&postcount=173

Digging up first posts are we? Mine is much more nubtastic than Reno's.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2366906&postcount=200

All the cool kids are linking their first posts, so I should too! Not only was it my first post in the Nes forum, it was my first post on CFC. In fact, my only reason for ever creating this accout was to play Nes'

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2871884&postcount=45

TT: Is that stKNES? :)

All of you who dug up your posts are nerds with too much time on your hands.
Get a life. www.downloadalife.com

Edit: Damn I did'nt even know a site like that existed.

@ MJM: Fo' Sho'
@ Silver: I don't need a life, I've got colorguard :p

All the cool kids are linking their first posts, so I should too! Not only was it my first post in the Nes forum, it was my first post on CFC. In fact, my only reason for ever creating this accout was to play Nes

WHAT?! :eek: There are other Civ forums?

WHAT?! :eek: There are other Civ forums?What!?!?! That be blasphemy!

My first post:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=265344&postcount=67

@ Silver: I don't need a life, I've got colorguard :p

Isn't Colorguard for girls? ;)

My first post was in kamilian's Rags to Riches, I joined a few days after north king and i got killed I think 2 times there... Ahh, my noobish days

Isn't Colorguard for girls? ;)Only if your stereotyping it:p . Seriosuly though, if you want to talk about it there's a lot people don't know/understand, it's a very misunderstood sport.

Isnt that the one where you twirl the flags?

Only if your stereotyping it:p . Seriosuly though, if you want to talk about it there's a lot people don't know/understand, it's a very misunderstood sport.

It's not exacly a stereotype image, but an observation. From the 5 nearby High Schools, all of them have an all girl colorguard team.

Wait, colorguard is open for guys too? :eek: I better get moving and sign up next year then :D

My first post in the NES forum was three days after Jason. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=269725#post269725) (May 2002.)

However, that post predates the existence of the NES forum by over a week! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=22335) So I have reason to believe that there were even earlier posts that did not survive the Great Migration. Oh, for the days of nostalgia.
(I think we should celebrate the NES forum's birthday.)

silver: There's a handy search function at the top of the forum. :p I dug up this in half a minute or so.

EDIT: PS. I now have an avatar reflecting my status. For some reason I couldn't write "forum" in my title. Anyway, I can make avatars for the rest of you, displaying any number you want. Transparent or white backgrounds, your choice. Let's have a separate avatar class for NESers. :D

The first NES I joined (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2992464&postcount=319)
My First post in the NESing forum. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2986113&postcount=187) I recall that NES never started. Pity.

See? (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=1593924&postcount=165) I had great posts, too. Of course, my first one wasn't that great, but my second one (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=1595223&postcount=171) even had a story! :)

@Alex: Generally speaking most people in color guard is girls, but to say they're all girls is stereotyping. There are all male winter guard's, one is from Oregon called Northern Lights. Ironically enough, many of the best color guard instructors are guys, as are the best performers.
Isnt that the one where you twirl the flags?We don't twirl them, we spin them! But we do a lot more than that.

Go enlighten yourself on Winter Guard and Color Guard. http://www.wgi.org

Several people wanted avatars, so here they are! :D
Remember, this is just for fun and boasting rights, don't take it seriously.

(Does anyone want to come up with a good dating system for NESers?)

Second post since only 5 attachments are allowed per post...
(You can ask me for any modification to these, the GIMP makes it super easy to edit the text or modify the background color.)

I refuse to let myself be tagged and bound in your hierarchic rank system! :p BTW, where is the update? The deadline was eight hours age. Oh, I bet you're working on it. :goodjob:

I refuse to let myself be tagged and bound in your hierarchic rank system! :p BTW, where is the update? The deadline was eight hours age. Oh, I bet you're working on it. :goodjob:
Uh? The deadline was extended to monday a while back. So far I have less than 1/3rd of orders!

Pardon? Didn't you say January 1st? Oh well, fact remains.

@Erik: that is because you joined in the second ever NES (some consider it to be the first "true" NES, but UKnemesis made Neverending Story... before it). UK's Neverending Story... was started in the Stories and Tales forum, then moved to the NES forum that thunderfall created for us.

Jason - you don't say. :rolleyes: I'm not a complete idiot. (Some parts are missing. :p) When I link to Thunderfall's post saying "Welcome to the NES forum!", I'd have to have all my parts intact to not realize that.

Now, will you take an avatar? I can copy the "p f N" from your current one and stick it in the upper left corner of a 0th-gen one if you like. :D

Jason - you don't say. :rolleyes: I'm not a complete idiot. (Some parts are missing. :p) When I link to Thunderfall's post saying "Welcome to the NES forum!", I'd have to have all my parts intact to not realize that.

Now, will you take an avatar? I can copy the "p f N" from your current one and stick it in the upper left corner of a 0th-gen one if you like. :D

Do not fall for his ploy! The avatars are his secret plan to dominate the entire NES forum! Uh oh. *takes cover*

UM, ive got an incredibly nubian questian. What is IT/BT?

Interesting times/Boring times. When an NES hits a lull in the action, the moderator skips a few centuries until interesting things start happening again. You don't directly control your nation through a BT.

You don't directly control your nation through a BT.

But can give quidelines how your nation acts through the BT, atleast the beginning of it as situations change.

I can copy the "p f N" from your current one and stick it in the upper left corner of a 0th-gen one if you like. :D
That's not a "p f n"! Thats Hebrew cursive spelling out the Hebrew word for king, melech. That's why Erez made it for him.

nah! its a "p f n" anyone can see that.

NESing interests me.I would like to join in one but I have no knowledge of what to do.I really want to try it out though.

It's very fun indeed. Join LINESII, and I'll show you everything you need to know about NESing.

Basically, you have an amount of economy you can spend each turn. You can spend it on military, education, building things, and all of that.

You do things by sending orders to a MODERATOR (not the CFC moderators, the person who started the NES), who will summarize everything everyone did in an UPDATE. Then you can engage in diplomacy with other nations in the NES, and eventually send orders for the next update.

If you have any specific questions, you can post them here.

join LINESII would be my advice, Iggy is a forgiving mod and plus he has a penguin for an avatar!! AHHHHHH *mawls Iggy* i wuv you ;)
(i wonder if this will scare him away!)

Well Iggy,I appreciate your help.I would like to be involed in a NES but I don't want to be bothersome if you know what I mean.

no no!! join JOIN e gad, i would hate to have scared you away mate seriously

Like I said I do want to join the NES'ers I think the term is.But I have alot to learn about it.

join a nes then, thats how i learned :)

All the current ones are really far along.I wouldn't get anywhere.:(

Luckymoose, you are welcome to join my NES (Finmaster's Brand Old Nes) if you want to, contact me on AIM (Anson1017) or MSN (mattimatero@hotmail.com) and I'll give you further info.

Well Iggy,I appreciate your help.I would like to be involed in a NES but I don't want to be bothersome if you know what I mean.

Actually, it's greatly appreciated when ANYONE joins a NES, if it's under the player maximum. It makes the game so much more fun.

I invite you to join LINESII. I'll post links to the updates here in a minute. Just let me find them.

Here are the links: LINESII-Update 1(it's partway down the page) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=160323&page=6) and LINESII- Update 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=160323&page=12)

You can join anywhere that doesn't already have a coloured nation. Maybe unite some barbarian tribes into a nation. It's your call.

Finmaster I added you on MSN as well. mootree21@hotmail.com

Like I said I do want to join the NES'ers I think the term is.But I have alot to learn about it.

The best way to learn (how to play) is to join a NES in progress. :)

you can take over an NPC nation, my advice is to not take over a very strong one though, but don't pick the weakest nation either, just a nation where you can sit back and look at whats going on and still be part of the game (as in you don't have to go to war or nothin)

Iggy is a really good Mod, but I stand by my constant suggestion for new players, join StkNES5. It is quite far along, but in my opinion it is the best NES for new players. There are a good number of middle power states, as well as a necessity for more players. Kamilian is also a dedicated Mod who is fare in his decisions, he is also very helpful. StkNES5 was my first NES as well as Iggy's if I am correct. I seem to remember it being Kentharu's first as well, but don't take my word for that. There is also at least one new NESer in it, so you wouldn't be alone. If you wanted a descent strength level as well as a guarantee of protection I would join as Tanzania or Kenya, which are nations that used to be Israelite colonies but emerged as independent naitons allied with Israel, the strongest nation currently. Also, Iggy's NES is a bit of an experiment if I remember correctly in a new type of NES where the map is gradually revealed. As a first time NESer I would suggest joining a more traditional NES, like StkNES5. However, in the end my suggestion would be to join both. Iggy really is a very good Mod and a very helpful one, so joining his NES would be a good idea, but joining StkNES5 in my opinion would be an even better idea.

as well as Iggy's if I am correct

You are correct. Isn't it Giio and tommy_toon's first NESes too? And Darwin420? Who else? And thank you very much for the good word.

Luckymoose, prettymuch everything Israelite said is good advice. Join StKNES5 to learn the ways of the NES first. Once you've got the hang of that, please feel free to join mine. Or you can join mine right away. ;)