Here is a bronze age axeman. The unit was requested by COAtlantis, and I saw it while I was going through the Units Request Thread some weeks ago. See, unit creators do look at that thread. ;)

I don't know anything about the historicisty of the unit, but it seems to be Greek to me. I just thought it looked cool. Enjoy.

I'll post the props and stuff I made for the unit next week. I'm heading to Nürnberg in a couple of hours for "Rock Im Park" and the Germany - San Marino soccer match this weekend!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//bronzeaxemanpreview_2IM.png

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//bronze_axeman_animations_5UO.gif

Download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5775&act=down).

Looks great! I think I'll use this as a Hellenised Egyptian Axeman! :thumbsup:

Looks great! Thank you! :clap:

That helmet is just what I was looking for ;) Oh, and those shinguards are also perfect for any viking units..

Have fun in Germany!

That's a fantastic-looking unit. The design is really striking. I'm sure this will get a lot of use.

A very nice unit, I'll HAVE to use it, although I don't know yet how

:eek: he's beutiful!!!

Have fun at the game ;)

Oh my!! He is simply delightful to see, Utah! This is a very very cool surprise to come home to...

Thank you for honoring my request! :goodjob: :thanx:

Germany - San Marino, wonder who's going to win that? :mischief:

Great unit though!

I've placed a bet +6 on that game (Minimum 6 goals)

Neat! Really like all those props, attacks are great too.

:thumbsup:

But doesn't the shield leave some very important parts vulnerable when you use it ?

I don`t think utah designed it ;)

Wow! Fantastic!

How would somebody use this in the epic game though? :confused:

upgrade from warrior without iron prequiste?

This is just what I needed for Anno Domini - so thanks!!

A great unit ! Very good looking.

Very, very cool unit! :thumbsup:
I can't deside what my favorite part of the model is... guess I'll just have to go with the whole thing.

Wow! Great modeling and animation. Great job, man!

Very nice, like all of your units he has an unique design.

Another great job thanks Utah!

Damn, nice to see Utah back! Good, unique unit, too. Will fill in the gaps for those civs w/o access to iron (poor bastards ...)

Yes, that shield does leave very little to the imagination. But he's very cool. Thanks for making that.

Great job :thumbsup:

Wow...I hate to sound dumb, but... I really like this unit, but am not really sure where he fits in an epic game...

What time period is he from? (I know Bronze age, but where in the unit line?)

Wow...I hate to sound dumb, but... I really like this unit, but am not really sure where he fits in an epic game...

What time period is he from? (I know Bronze age, but where in the unit line?)

He would go between the warrior and the swordsman

oh ok, so it really is what the name implies...now I feel REALLY stupid :)

@Utah: if I didnt say it before...great unit...

Well Done and his strength is animated very well :goodjob:

wow....all i can say is wow.
this is one of the most beautiful units i have ever seen.

it is going into my mod right away...either as a unique Hyksos Axeman,
or a wonder-produced Greek mercenary.

this is truly a beautiful unit. i'm just in awe. seriously :D

Wonderful unit :goodjob: The distinctive shield shape is wonderful.

Best,

Oz

For those who are interested, this kind of shield design was use in Greece / Persia, it allows riding a horse with the shield attached to the back (you put the "cut" part toward the bottom, where your mount is.

This is great! :D

Well, the shiled and armour is a bit different, the weapon is used by many bronze Asian civilzations (Japan and China for sure, and so probably Korea and Mongolia too)
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1472_face.jpg
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1496_face.jpg
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1481_face.jpg
I am going to replace Utah's old Shang soldier with this one. In my game it is a warrior.

Frickin' eh, man! This unit rules! Wooooo-hooooo!

Thanks for the info Steph. I thought that it looked like a pelta but upside down. Although I also thought that he kind of looks like he's wearing 70s style NBA shorts so don't go by me. He looks great though.

Very nice work. The Bronze age is still much of a mystery, so it could be anything from that Era. From the mix of Egyptian and Hellenic items though I'd have to bet the best use would be as a Grecian Mercenary for the Egyptians, Egyptians hired a number of those. Hyksos would prolly be close as well.

Hello, everyone. I had a great weekend in Nürnberg. It's nice to come back to Mannheim and see so many comments about the unit. I'm glad that so many people like the unit so much! That's really cool. :)

And, thank you to those who have shared a little historical information about the unit and how it could be used in CivIII.

So.... how was the game? :D

Hello, everyone. I had a great weekend in Nürnberg. It's nice to come back to Mannheim and see so many comments about the unit. I'm glad that so many people like the unit so much! That's really cool. :)

And, thank you to those who have shared a little historical information about the unit and how it could be used in CivIII.
Wow - you live in Mannheim!??! I had a penpal there when I was at school and I visited him. It's a nice place; he lived on Herzogenstrasse, if you know it.

Back to the unit, I voted for it in the unit maker competition and am about to pop it into the mod.

Me too! :) Any sugestions for which civ to give it? Shiro sugested the Chinese, sounds good. Fictional ancient Korean maybe?

Middle East:
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1879_face.jpg
East Asia: (China, Korea, Japan, maybe Mongolia)
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1481_face.jpg
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1472_face.jpg
Northern Italian:
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1355_face.jpg

I think it can be either a Warrior(which I hate, it looks like a caveman) replacement for any civ. Or it could be an upgrade for warrior, for any civ.

Well.. the Caveman does kinda look weird in normal epic civ. But this guy is clad in bronze. And you are yet to discover Bronze Working when you start with him..

Rename him "Copper Axeman" perhaps?

Mod the game so you start with Bronze? :)

So.... how was the game? :D

The game was great. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed the atmosphere with all of the singing and chanting. And the game was pretty good, too--especially through the first half when it was 0-0 until abour the 43rd or 44th minute, if I remember correctly.


Wow - you live in Mannheim!??! I had a penpal there when I was at school and I visited him. It's a nice place; he lived on Herzogenstrasse, if you know it.

Well, I stay in Mannheim and Darmstadt for the summer. My girlfriend is from Darmstadt but studies in Mannheim. So, when I come to visit for the summer, I'm usually in one of those two places. I definitely like it here, too.

Here is a link to the figure and props that I created for my Bronze Axeman unit. Be warned that the models have a lot of polygons and render slowly. I'm also distributing the textures that I used for the unit, but I would really, really prefer it if I did not see the textures used for other units without some strong modification. For example, I don't want to see other units running around with the same shield design. If that happens, I won't post things in the future. :)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5521066#post5521066

Here is a link to the figure and props that I created for my Bronze Axeman unit. Be warned that the models have a lot of polygons and render slowly. I'm also distributing the textures that I used for the unit, but I would really, really prefer it if I did not see the textures used for other units without some strong modification. For example, I don't want to see other units running around with the same shield design. If that happens, I won't post things in the future. :)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5521066#post5521066

you should post that in the post you have the Bronze Axeman's props in...

He already did!

Thanks for the posting the props, utah. I think the helmet in particular could be very useful.

If I were to introduce this unit in the epic game, I'd probably put him at Bronze Working, 2.2.1, 25 shields. :)

As for assigning him a nationality, he reminds me of certain depictions of Sea People warriors, who fought both against and for Egypt in the terminal bronze age. Their descendants included the Philistines of Biblical fame.

Some people assign him to the hellenized egyptians(post Alexander's conquest)

Really nice unit. :goodjob:

Some people assign him to the hellenized egyptians(post Alexander's conquest)

He is supposed to be a bronze warrior, so "some people" are doing bad. :p

I'd say a warrior for Israel or Phonecians, if anyone have them in their games.

Indeed, it would make little sense to have a bronze warrior post Alexander, since bronze weapons have a tendency to break when they hit iron. ;)

The Greeks didn't tend to use axes as far as I know - they were more into spears, but the Egyptians certainly had axemen - so an early replacement for the Egyptians is possible (perhaps a copper age warrior with 2-1-1).

However, it does seem to have a Greek feel to the unit. I think the thing it would put me in mind of the most is a Mycenae or Minoan warrior, from around the time of the siege of Troy. I'm still not sure that the Greeks used axes at Troy, but I'm pretty sure that the Minoans did. So, after discussing that with myself for a while, I would conclude that he would work best for a Minoan warrior replacement (the Minoans should start with bronze working since they should be scientific, like the Greeks, so there's no problem with having a bronze unit from the beginning of the game). That does mean you need a Minoan civilization to put him into though. :mischief:

Is there a Minoan leaderhead out there somewhere?

There's a simple end to this argument: He's a Hellenised Egyptian wearing bronze-painted Iron armor, and with a bronze-painted Iron axe head :p

(incidentally, my spell check does not think "axe" is a real word...)

Some people assign him to the hellenized egyptians(post Alexander's conquest)

FWIW, at Raphia the Egyptian troops fought as phalangites ...

hey....folks, let's just face it.
he's totally cool! :D

let's just enjoy him! ;)

(incidentally, my spell check does not think "axe" is a real word...)

:lol: :goodjob: :crazyeye:

(incidentally, my spell check does not think "axe" is a real word...)


... :sad:.. thats... thats horrible... :nuke:

I think I could use him as a replacement warrior for the Greeks, to give them a good early start...

Seeing the above pictures from wargaming.net it occurred to me, im going to use him as an Etruscan unit unit! Along with the Etruscan Chariot.

incidentally, my spell check does not think "axe" is a real word...)

Well, then your spell check is wrong. ;) Axe is found in my MS Word dictionary. It's also commonly found online. But, even were it not, "axeman" is, in my opinion, more proper than "axman," which generates no relevant search results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axeman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe

I know that Americans spell it "ax", but I'm still puzzled because I don't understand how you can spell check a post on a forum like this.

It's Firefox's dictionary (it doesn't recognize much, for example, the word "definatley" or "Firefox" :lol:)

That's because "definatley" is not a word! You mean "definitely".

I could do :shifty: