Join our new citizen group, all Norwegians. Are you Norwegian or a Norwegian descendent then join our citizen group. We must stick together like any other minority groups, and not lose our culture inheritage as citizens of Phoenatica. Long live Phoenatica and long live Norway!:viking:

Originally posted by Eivind IV
Join our new citizen group, all Norwegians. Are you Norwegian or a Norwegian descendent then join our citizen group. We must stick together like any other minority groups, and not lose our culture inheritage as citizens of Phoenatica. Long live Phoenatica and long live Norway!:viking:
Nope. This citizen group is not supported under Civ3. You'll have to buy "Play The World" first. Then, if you're lucky... :D

Don't blame me - blame that Sid guy! :crazyeye: :lol:

halla!jeg er med på dette her,bra at noen endelig lager en sånn gruppe!:D :goodjob: [party] :viking: :cooool:

Tjena och hallå alla Norrmän!

Tänkte jag skulle hälsa på som Svensk. Hoppas ni kan få ett par medlemmar här.

Det er klart vi har plass til svensker, vi har også plass til dansker om så måtte være. Kjekt å se at iallefall noen har svart. Vi regner med å få flere medlemmer etter hvert.

Iallefall, velkommen til den norsk/skaninaviske etniske gruppen i Fønikerriket.

Velkommen:
trader/warrior
Grey Fox

[dance] :yeah: :goodjob:

Hei, jeg er selvsagt også med. Visste ikke at presidenten var skandinaver!:king: konge. Jeg håper vi Nordmenn og skandinavere vil få rykte på oss for å være gode borgere i Fønikerrike.

:rotfl: :lol: :jump:

Hej tjena alla nordbor jag bor I Finland men jag talar svenska så då kan jag väll va med också så har vi hela norden:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Does Irish or Icelandic decent count? If so, count me in.

Velkommen til den norsk etniske gruppen i Fønikerriket! Etterkommere fra nordmenn vil selvfølgelig bli inkludert i gruppen. Brodernasjonene i Norden må holde sammen. Derfor kan vi ta med folk fra Finland. Islendere og norsk/skaninaviske etterkommere i de britiske øyene og Irland er også hjertelig velkomne.

Velkommen til vår norsk etniske borgergruppe:
crabapple

:)
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And for you Mr. Plexus. Welcome to our citizen group!
Since Norwegian and Danish vikings raided your country and settled within its borders, you are a Norwegian descendent. :viking: Therefor, by the power invested in me, I declare you a member of our brotherhood.:cooool:

What about me? I'm of part German and Polish descent. :)

German and the Norwegian languages (Nordic?) are in the Germanic language family, I believe.

I have atleast Slavic and Germanic blood (and Italian - Roman!). :)

I've got Swedish blood in me, not to mention the name of my Swedish Ancestors is MY last name (Americanized as it is).

So while I'm too far removed to know the Scandinavian Languages, I believe I qualify (however confused I may be by the conversations that may go on in here when they're not posted in English).

Oooh, MR. wow. :)

Originally posted by Eivind IV
Velkommen til den norsk etniske gruppen i Fønikerriket! Etterkommere fra nordmenn vil selvfølgelig bli inkludert i gruppen. Brodernasjonene i Norden må holde sammen. Derfor kan vi ta med folk fra Finland. Islendere og norsk/skaninaviske etterkommere i de britiske øyene og Irland er også hjertelig velkomne.

Velkommen til vår norsk etniske borgergruppe:
crabapple

:)
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And for you Mr. Plexus. Welcome to our citizen group!
Since Norwegian and Danish vikings raided your country and settled within its borders, you are a Norwegian descendent. :viking: Therefor, by the power invested in me, I declare you a member of our brotherhood.:cooool:

Originally posted by Chieftess
What about me? I'm of part German and Polish descent. :)

German and the Norwegian languages (Nordic?) are in the Germanic language family, I believe.

I have atleast Slavic and Germanic blood (and Italian - Roman!). :)

Couldnt you start a German/Polish/Whatever society. It should be some more Germans then you around.

I alla fall så skulle jag (som svensk) gärna vilja vara med i eran lilla församling (om det går för sig).

I know I havent been accepted yet but I think its allright (if you let in GreyFox you let anyone in:D ) Anyway I have an idea maybe it sucks I dont know,ok here it is: Some of us could move to a city where noone lives right now and take over the city and appoint a mayor and then we would have and all Scandinavian city (I dont know why really, just sounded fun). Anyway just tell me what you think.:viking:

Let's see...I've got Irish, English and Russian. My ancesters were invaded by 3 different Nordic peoples! Let's see somebody top that! ;)

Originally posted by Major Geuvara
I know I havent been accepted yet but I think its allright (if you let in GreyFox you let anyone in:D ) Anyway I have an idea maybe it sucks I dont know,ok here it is: Some of us could move to a city where noone lives right now and take over the city and appoint a mayor and then we would have and all Scandinavian city (I dont know why really, just sounded fun). Anyway just tell me what you think.:viking:
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Hello Major Geuvara! . It is a honour to have a real officer in our citizen group. Welcome! Velkommen skal du være brodermann!

By the way, your idea sounded very interesting. A Norwegian/Scandinavian/Nordic city in Phoenatica would be the ultimate goal. We should all stick together, and not spread all around our empire. Just sign up, and come with good suggestions on wich city we should "invade". :enlighten

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And for you Mr. Falcon02 . I would never in my wildest dreams think that the defence minister him self would join our citizen group. Welcome. Your swedish blood is good enough for me. :king:

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You are correct Chieftess. Our languages are in the same Germanic group. Welcome to our Norwgian/Scandinavian/Nordic citizen group. :viking:

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Hello Shaitan. Any Norwegian invaders? Anyway, you have Nordic blood in you and you are welcomed and you are babtized into our citizen group! Great mod by the way! :goodjob:

Sorry Eivind but I cannot move from PDX I´am mayor there and it is the capital province of Normandy.
But it would sound right if we invade a city in Normandy we are Northmen, I would recommend PDX :)

Originally posted by Eivind IV

And for you Mr. Falcon02 . I would never in my wildest dreams think that the defence minister him self would join our citizen group. Welcome. Your swedish blood is good enough for me. :king:


Thanks.

And, looking at Crabapple's suggestion... Why not take over the Province of Normandy in general, not just one city? The area was ruled by the Norse for a long while, decendents of the Vikings who invaded the area and settled down.

Originally posted by Eivind IV

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Hello Major Geuvara! . It is a honour to have a real officer in our citizen group. Welcome! Velkommen skal du være brodermann!


Tackar, Tackar!:D
Anyway maybe we should change the name of this group to "the Viking group" or something, sounds better then Norwegian/Scandinavian/Nordic group.:viking:

wich cities are in normandy?


And later maybe we can take all the cities in normandy!:mwaha:

we sould call this forum "vikings only!"

The cities are: PDX, Washington, Boston, Maimi, Pherris, Shailonegha, Chicago, Port Gisnod and New falcons heaven
Here is the map: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?threadid=22326

Originally posted by crabapple
The cities are: PDX, Washington, Boston, Maimi, Pherris, Shailonegha, Chicago, Port Gisnod and New falcons heaven


Its allready alot of people living there so we cant really take over all of them
:( ......:viking:

I'm already living in Washington. The weather's great here. Plus, if we all move to Washington there'll be a mayor (me) friendly to the cause, as it were.

Originally posted by Shaitan
I'm already living in Washington. The weather's great here. Plus, if we all move to Washington there'll be a mayor (me) friendly to the cause, as it were.

Right then vikings TO WASHINGTON!!!!! (or what do you say?)
:viking:

Okay, everbody to the Mayor's mansion for ludafisk and beer! [dance]

Originally posted by Shaitan
Okay, everbody to the Mayor's mansion for ludafisk and beer! [dance]

OK Shaitan I just moved to Washington, where is the beer?!!![dance].......:viking:

have we decided that all of us must move to washington or was it just an idea?:confused:

Originally posted by trader/warrior
have we decided that all of us must move to washington or was it just an idea?:confused:

I dont think you HAVE to move to Washington but it seemed like a good idea since there were no other citizens there and besides Washington is just as good as any other city, right? Eivind IV since youre the thread starter (and the leader?) it might be good to hear what you think.:viking:

Originally posted by Major Geuvara


I dont think you HAVE to move to Washington but it seemed like a good idea since there were no other citizens there and besides Washington is just as good as any other city, right? Eivind IV since youre the thread stater (and the leader?) it might be good to hear what you think.:viking:

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Hello my good people! Washington sounds like a nice city for norsemen like us to live in, so I will go along with this. But is it possible to somehow change the name of the city into Scandinavia or something? In the long run, we will be the majority group of Washington, so I think that would be fair, don't you? ;)

Originally posted by Eivind IV
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Hello my good people! Washington sounds like a nice city for norsemen like us to live in, so I will go along with this. But is it possible to somehow change the name of the city into Scandinavia or something? In the long run, we will be the majority group of Washington, so I think that would be fair, don't you? ;)
When a governor takes control of his province after an election, they have 1 week to submit name changes for the cities. We'll need to petition the governor of Normandy after the next election (currently it's Plexus but he's past the week limit).

The only thing thats not so good about Washington is that its not a port city so we can not make daring sea raids in our longships and kill their women and rape the men and take all of their belongings with us home to our country, oh well.........:viking:

When a governor takes control of his province after an election, they have 1 week to submit name changes for the cities. We'll need to petition the governor of Normandy after the next election (currently it's Plexus but he's past the week limit).
What? it is I that are governor of Normandy not Plexus!!!!!

Originally posted by crabapple

What? it is I that are governor of Normandy not Plexus!!!!!

Thats fine! Then you change the name. :viking:

My apologies crabapple! I must have eaten too much ludafisk.

Thats fine! Then you change the name.

I can do that if you vote for me in the next election:D then I change the name to what what you want:)

Good news vikings!!!
In the new screenshots there is apperantly a viking/scandinavian civ and a UU guy whit a big axe!
:viking:

YEAH, GO VIKINGS. I look forward to playing around with the new civs. I wonder what two civ qualities the Vikings have, "Militaristic" and "Expansionist"?

Militaristic becuase of the great Viking warriors who terrorized Europe, and the ingenious ships. And Expansionist because the Vikings spread out because Scandinavia wasn't the best farming ground, but the Rest of Europe.

Originally posted by Falcon02
YEAH, GO VIKINGS. I look forward to playing around with the new civs. I wonder what two civ qualities the Vikings have, "Militaristic" and "Expansionist"?

Militaristic becuase of the great Viking warriors who terrorized Europe, and the ingenious ships. And Expansionist because the Vikings spread out because Scandinavia wasn't the best farming ground, but the Rest of Europe.

Im sorry General but I have to disagree. The vikings should (acording to me) be Expansionist and Commercial because the vikings were just as much traders as they were warriors and most of the journeys were of commercial character rather then raid and plunder and kill and reap character. :viking:

Well, I'm half Norwegian. Major Geuvara says I should join too.

Ludafisk and lefse were the main Christmas dinner at my house growing up. :D

At least from my knowlege base I don't think that commercial characterizes the Vikings. I understand the Vikings didn't just maraud as is suggested by popular opinion. They established permanent colonies, living there and sending some stuff back home, however I believe that the "trade" portion of it wasn't that major.

Originally posted by Falcon02
At least from my knowlege base I don't think that commercial characterizes the Vikings. I understand the Vikings didn't just maraud as is suggested by popular opinion. They established permanent colonies, living there and sending some stuff back home, however I believe that the "trade" portion of it wasn't that major.

I guess we disagre then. No point in arguing about it since its Firaxis that decide it anyway:viking:

Originally posted by Major Geuvara
I guess we disagre then. No point in arguing about it since its Firaxis that decide it anyway:viking:

:viking: True, it's out of our hands and there's no point in arguing over it. Well, time to go Marauding China... :viking:

Originally posted by Padma
Well, I'm half Norwegian. Major Geuvara says I should join too.

Ludafisk and lefse were the main Christmas dinner at my house growing up. :D

Hello Padma! Even though ludafisk and lefse tastes like ****(!), you are here by a member of the Norwegian Ethnic Group in Phoenatica. I am a full blood Norwegian and have never tasted ludafisk since I first where forced to eat it. Anyway, enough of my traumatic childhood :) Welcome to our citizen group!

Originally posted by Eivind IV
Even though ludafisk and lefse tastes like ****(!), you are here by a member of the Norwegian Ethnic Group in Phoenatica. I am a full blood Norwegian and have never tasted ludafisk since I first where forced to eat it. Anyway, enough of my traumatic childhood :) Welcome to our citizen group! Thank you for the welcome. :)

I understand about eating the stuff. I ate ludafisk a few times growing up. I recall hearing about my great-grandfather who once got a bite that wasn't properly washed before cooking - he ended up with a mouthful of lye. That helped turn me off to the stuff. :D

Aside: the way my grandmother pronounced it, I always thought it was spelled "lutefisk". But I never saw it written down, so what would I know? :)

But lefse is good stuff! spread some butter on it, and sprinkle a little sugar, or use jam, or honey, then roll it up. A great snack. (Although I remember one commentator who said, "it looks like a scorched napkin, and tastes like one, too.")

Well, Padma, actually it is spelled lutefisk. Eivind, nå må du forbedra stavingå di ;)

Originally posted by Homie
Well, Padma, actually it is spelled lutefisk. Eivind, nå må du forbedra stavingå di ;)

Sorry about that! I knew well that lutefisk was the correct way to spell it. It's just that in my Norwegian dialect we pronounce it ludafisk. Guess I got a little carried away. You are right about the lefse, it tastes ok, but it is not something I take out when I want a snack. But I fully respect that you like it though. Everything we eat in Norway is so internationalized the last decades you know. So it is good that you take care of our traditional food. :) Well, enjoy the lutefisk and the lefse! ;)

Allright we have covered all the Scandinavian food, what should we do now??.......:viking:

Re-elect Crabapple!

And think of a new name for Washington.

Originally posted by Shaitan
Re-elect Crabapple!

And think of a new name for Washington.

Right! How about....umh.....Scandinavia????

How about Stortebeker?

Originally posted by Shaitan
How about Stortebeker?

or Birka?

What's Birka?

Stortebeker means "Jug (or Beaker/beker) at one gulp.

Originally posted by Shaitan
What's Birka?

Stortebeker means "Jug (or Beaker/beker) at one gulp.

Birka was a small city whitch was located almost where Stockholm is today

Originally posted by Shaitan
Re-elect Crabapple!

And think of a new name for Washington.

Yeh if you vote for me I can rename the city to what you want:D
and thanks for the support Shaitan

Originally posted by crabapple
thanks for the support Shaitan
My pleasure, guv'ner.

what about valhall.

Originally posted by trader/warrior
what about valhall.

Or midgard or nifelheim.

Originally posted by Major Geuvara


Or midgard or nifelheim.

I think the city name should be something we all have in common. I don't think it should be a swedish name, since this citizen group are primarily norwegian, but anyhow. I like Scandinavia or Midgard or Åsgård or some other names from the norse mythology. That seems fair to me. Am I right?:crazyeye:

Originally posted by Eivind IV


I think the city name should be something we all have in common. I don't think it should be a swedish name, since this citizen group are primarily norwegian, but anyhow. I like Scandinavia or Midgard or Åsgård or some other names from the norse mythology. That seems fair to me. Am I right?:crazyeye:

I like Asgård (Åsgård in Norwegian) since it was the home of the gods (should suit us :)) .......:viking:

Don't forget to re-elect Plexus as governor of Ameri.

valhalla was the place were all men ho died in battle came and had a great party!so i think we sould name it that![dance] [dance] [dance] [dance] [party] [party] [party] :beer: :beer: :beer:

How about Valhalla? Since we're looking for a city name. Asgard would be a good province name.

Yeh I like Valhalla:viking:

Valhalla, heaven for Vikings. Where we get a pig to slay and eat every day, and spend all day fighting and eating the poisining Rødsopp. Man, those Vikings really was crazy. Anywho, I second Vallhalla for the City name.

And I have to say, during these times where we are losing officials day by day(Grey Fox, Skilord...) it is wonderful to see such governers so anxious to get re-elected as Plexus and Crabapple. You got my vote ;)

Valhalla for Washington sound ok to me. :viking:

Kill each other all day, get resurrected, spend the evening/night with beautiful women, and do it all again...

That's Valhalla, Sounds cool don't it :viking:

:viking: :viking: :viking: Valhalla it is! [dance] :beer: :beer: [dance]

Ok I will rename washington to Valhalla if I get elected

g

Originally posted by Eivind IV
:viking: :viking: :viking: Valhalla it is! [dance] :beer: :beer: [dance]


In Norwegian we say Vallhall and not Valhalla. Let's call it Vallhall instead.:jump:

Originally posted by Eivind IV
:viking: :viking: :viking: Valhalla it is! [dance] :beer: :beer: [dance]


In Norwegian we say Vallhall and not Valhalla. Let's call it Vallhall instead.:jump:

ok Vallhall then:)

Maybe we should open a Washington..err..Valhall thread like the one about PDX?

Originally posted by Major Geuvara
Maybe we should open a Washington..err..Valhall thread like the one about PDX?

it's allready done! :cool:

you all know you have to post a citizen poll for renaming a city? even if the governor uses his right. read the constitution!

Vote for renaming Washinton

If (and when ;)) the renaming of Washinton goes forward we must remember to change our city in the Census Office:Citizen registry. better start packing, the move is due in 2 days.

j

Originally posted by Eivind IV


it's allready done! :cool:

I was thinking more like the PDX and Fox nest threads in the general demo game forum, but its up to you. :viking:

the founder or the leader of this citizen-group should register the group in the citizen-group registry (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23800)!

Yeh the poll have got trough and next turn chat we will rename Washington to Vallhall

we have renamed Washington to Valhall.
Lets party[dance]

[dance] [party] :beer: [party] [dance]

Originally posted by Padma
[dance] [party] :beer: [party] [dance]

I couldnt have said it better myself :viking:

I am swedish. Can I join?

Actually it is lutfisk in swedish not lutefisk.

I had some spare time so I made this "Flag" for us now that we have our own city. Tell me what you think, be as crule as you like I can take it.:viking:

It is ok, could use some fine tuning though. I would like to have a longship somewhere in our flag. And maybe in small print an old viking saying in norrønt (the language of the entire northern Europe a 1000 years ago. At that time english and norwegian was so similar that we could understand eachother without having taken a class.)

Hvis noen har et viking ordtak post det her.

If anybody has a viking saying please post it here.

Originally posted by Homie
It is ok, could use some fine tuning though. I would like to have a longship somewhere in our flag. And maybe in small print an old viking saying in norrønt (the language of the entire northern Europe a 1000 years ago. At that time english and norwegian was so similar that we could understand eachother without having taken a class.)

Hvis noen har et viking ordtak post det her.

If anybody has a viking saying please post it here.

Dont know were to find a longship could use the galley I guess. If anyone have a Rune font or something that would have been nice. Viking saying hmm.....on the rune stones they always wrote about some brother who had sailed away and died in Miklagård or something like that.

We could use the galley, Major, it actually looks very much like the viking longships. I have seen some longboats at the viking museum in Norway and I have to say they have a striking resemblance.

Originally posted by Homie
We could use the galley, Major, it actually looks very much like the viking longships. I have seen some longboats at the viking museum in Norway and I have to say they have a striking resemblance.

Get ride off the ram in the stem and the little thing on top of the mast and make a dragon head out of the thing in the front.:viking:

someone should write down all the members of this group.

And Eivind, you should register this group in the "Citizen-Group" thread (in the main demo-game forum).:viking:

Originally posted by IceEye
I am swedish. Can I join?

Actually it is lutfisk in swedish not lutefisk.

Well, if you prefer lutfisk, that it is ok with us. Du er iallefall hjertelig velkommen til vår borgergruppe!

Welcome to our citizen group, IceEye! :) :king:

My dear friends!

I have now registered our citizen group in the citizen group registry. Since we all are members of the democratic Phoenatica, I would like to hear some suggestions on what the goals of our citizen group should be.

Please post some replies..:king:

We should promote a high protein diet with lye as the sole preservative used.

I suggest we vote for war with anyone possible!

We missed our war window. We're at about the right time for crushing economies and extorting people though. We could also insist on a navy of some kind. Ours is pathetic.

Not just navy, but marines too. The Vikings didn't really have many sea battle I don't think, just invaded other places from sea.

BTW: I'm sorry for Neglecting the navy recently, upgrading has been taking most of my attention, I'll lobby some of the Governors for more ships before the next turn chat.

Originally posted by Falcon02
Not just navy, but marines too. The Vikings didn't really have many sea battle I don't think, just invaded other places from sea.

BTW: I'm sorry for Neglecting the navy recently, upgrading has been taking most of my attention, I'll lobby some of the Governors for more ships before the next turn chat.

Yes! thats it, a big and powerful navy and lots of Marines. And when we got both we could pillage and raid and kill and rape and....:viking:

Although I LOVE a big and powerful navy, we play on a map were the navy is not wise to prioritize. Sorry to burst your bubble guys.

Originally posted by Homie
Although I LOVE a big and powerful navy, we play on a map were the navy is not wise to prioritize. Sorry to burst your bubble guys.

WHAT??!! A map were the navy is not a priority!!! Thats not true!!! yore lying!!!:) No really if we have a navy (not necessarily a big one) we could extend our reach alot. I mean how easy is it to attack India or England witch are on the other side of the world.:viking:

There will be a firaxian chat at 4 pm eastern time.(That is -5 GMT)
on Friday, 14.06.02. So I encourage the Vikings(that's us) to attend. I for one will mention that the longboat/longship should be the Viking UU, do you agree or do you like the Berzerk better.

I don´t know what the berserk is supposed to replace! The most realistic part would be a replacement swordsman. Perhaps something like an immortal. 4.1.2 or something. Or a 2.1.1 warrior?

It should be the longship. The berzerk was a very unique and dangerous individual but there just weren't a whole lot of them. The longship was hugely implemented and incredibly successful at what it was designed to do. Here's the problem though - it wasn't a sea fighter. It was designed to be fast and get places where large numbers of troops could do damage on land and then get away before retaliation could be organized. Maybe make a very fast galley?

Yes, and I was thinking maybe it could traverse sea squares(they did reach North America. New Foundland in Canada is the scientists best guess. Hundreds of years before columbus)

Traversing sea squares would be a game breaker. Maybe a small bombardment ability to simulate the crew raiding inland?

Originally posted by Shaitan
Maybe make a very fast galley?

I have said it before and I will say it again: Viking longships appered around 800 AD and galleys was much earlier (acient times I think). Allthough galley looks like longships they are not the same;) . My suggestion is a ocean-going ship that replace the Caravel.....or something:) :viking:

There were known berserks in the viking society. They suddenly got into berserk mode(rage) and started destroying things and men alike in its way. This berserk rage could be triggered by many things.

Originally posted by Major Geuvara
I have said it before and I will say it again: Viking longships appered around 800 AD and galleys was much earlier (acient times I think). Allthough galley looks like longships they are not the same;) . My suggestion is a ocean-going ship that replace the Caravel.....or something:) :viking:
How could I have made such an error? I shal flaggelate myself with a wet noodle. :cry:

The longship was the predominant vessel at the time of the Great Army. Danish incursions into the Brittish Isles as well as the assault on France that resulted in Normandy were direct results of the prowess of the vikings and the great advantage of the longships.

Originally posted by Shaitan

How could I have made such an error? I shal flaggelate myself with a wet noodle. :cry:

You should do that Shaitan you deserve it!;)........:viking:

Let me clarify this for all that don´t know it allready. Vikings never used horns on their helmets!

EDIT: WOHOOOO 100 posts yehaa I am warlord nanananan

Originally posted by IceEye
Let me clarify this for all that don´t know it allready. Vikings never used horns on their helmets!
Of course not! They were far too valuable as drinking vessels to waste on a helmet!
:beer:

Originally posted by IceEye
Let me clarify this for all that don´t know it allready. Vikings never used horns on their helmets!

In the screenshots the berserk dont seem to have horns:)
:viking:-horns

Nice to see that firaxis has taken their history lessons!

Major, I disagree with your statements on the Longship. The galley is from the ancient times, so is the longship(although late ancient times. The longship was used during the Viking period ca.900 - 1200, this is before mediavel ages.). So it would be correct to have the longship replace the galley as the UU. Also, by the time caravels was around, the longship was obsolete, the Caravel is a more advanced ship than the longship.

And Shaitan, giving the longship the ability to cross sea squares does not seem (to me at least) to be more of a game-breaker than giving the longship more speed.

Originally posted by Homie
Major, I disagree with your statements on the Longship. The galley is from the ancient times, so is the longship(although late ancient times. The longship was used during the Viking period ca.900 - 1200, this is before mediavel ages.). So it would be correct to have the longship replace the galley as the UU. Also, by the time caravels was around, the longship was obsolete, the Caravel is a more advanced ship than the longship.

And Shaitan, giving the longship the ability to cross sea squares does not seem (to me at least) to be more of a game-breaker than giving the longship more speed.

In my history book the Mediavel ages is from around 300 AD to 1300 AD then came the renaissance. While ancient times is 4000 BC-300 AD (the fall of west-rome) . And I think Shaitan was talking about OCEAN-going galley, witch would be a game- breaker. :viking:

EDIT: but he did talk about SEA-going galleys, oh Shaitan what has become of you??:lol:

Yup, ocean going galley would be a killer.

Originally posted by Major Geuvara


In my history book the Mediavel ages is from around 300 AD to 1300 AD then came the renaissance. While ancient times is 4000 BC-300 AD (the fall of west-rome) . And I think Shaitan was talking about OCEAN-going galley, witch would be a game- breaker. :viking:

EDIT: but he did talk about SEA-going galleys, oh Shaitan what has become of you??:lol:

You're right, mediavel age started earlier than what I have always thought. My history book says it started at 500 AD and lasted until 1500. It also divides the age into three parts, I guess I've always thought of the late-mediavel age(1300-1500) as the real mediavel ages, with knights, castles, honour and such.

Still, the caravel belongs in the age after the mediavel, when they started travelling vast distances, doesn't it? You know, the age of world discovery, or maybe I'm wrong.

I still see the longship as a more primitive ship, great for its time though,but it did come some time before caravel, didn't?

Originally posted by Major Geuvara
EDIT: but he did talk about SEA-going galleys, oh Shaitan what has become of you??:lol:
I think I need a nap. :sleep:

Originally posted by Homie

I still see the longship as a more primitive ship, great for its time though,but it did come some time before caravel, didn't?

You are right about this. When Columbus "discovered" America he had 3 caravels and that was in 1492. My point: Since there is no ship unit between galleys and caravels it would have been better to let the longship replace the caravel intead of galleys.

Anyway, I think this discussion is a bit strange. Firaxis has allready started working on the berserk (or whatever they will call it) I dont think they will change to the longship just because we are whining about it. :viking:

Originally posted by Major Guevara


You are right about this. When Columbus "discovered" America he had 3 caravels and that was in 1492. My point: Since there is no ship unit between galleys and caravels it would have been better to let the longship replace the caravel intead of galleys. :viking:

Did you know that the man who discovered America, 300 years before Colombus was a Norwegian? Leiv Eriksson was the son of a man who was banished for murder from the region where I live. Then Leiv Eriksson was banished from Island for murder. Rule the Vikings![dance] :viking: :viking: [dance]

I thought his name was Leif Eriksson

Originally posted by IceEye
I thought his name was Leif Eriksson

Leif, Leiv... it's the same name.

jeg er vestfolding og er gjerne med i denne gruppen

Vestfoldinger kan vi aldri få nok av!
Velkommen til gruppen vår Paalikles!!!

Eivind IV :)

Paalikles, jeg og Eivind IV er også vestlendinger (Hundvåg,Stavanger), hvor er du fra?
Og hvem er/hvar Paalikles?

Translation:Paalikles, me and Eivind IV are also westerners(west in Norway) (location in Norway), where are you from?
And who is/was Paalikles?

Oops, jeg leste visst feil, du var Vestlfolding, ikke Vestlending

Translation: Kinda hard to translate Vestlfolding

Hey, la oss holde denne gruppa i live!!

Hvilke mål har vi? Osv...

Hey, lets keep this group alive!!

What are our goals? etc....

From the looks of the first page of this thread - we should invade Normandy. However, if we already have done so, then never mind :D
But if Normandy is up for "grabs" - then let's go for it.
We can persuade the people of Phoenatica (which does not translate to Fønikerriket, but to Fanatika) to errect a Federation
Then Normandy will surely become the viking state!
OR - we could forget the whole idea, and avoid execution :D

Originally posted by Paalikles
From the looks of the first page of this thread - we should invade Normandy. However, if we already have done so, then never mind :D
But if Normandy is up for "grabs" - then let's go for it.
We can persuade the people of Phoenatica (which does not translate to Fønikerriket, but to Fanatika) to errect a Federation
Then Normandy will surely become the viking state!
OR - we could forget the whole idea, and avoid execution :D

Although i dont want to get executed (not hanged anyway) we cant chicken out now!! Do you think our viking forefathers ran off screaming like little chlidren when faced whit certian death?? There is one big problem though, I havent followed the demo-game at all latly (Real-Life and all;) ) but it seems to me that the game is all but over it is a little late to start the conquering of the world now.....My idea is that we bide our time and awaits the start of a new demo -game to start (if or when). Then we would come back whit full power and be in from the begining then we will conquer the world as our forefathers once did (almost anyway) Any thoghts about this?? :viking:

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Forresten, Larsi...det er forskjell på vestfolding og vestlending :) Idiot!

DIE YOU SYUPID GERMANS!!!:slay: :slay: :slay: :die: :die: :die: [phaser] [phaser] [phaser]

Originally posted by trader/warrior
DIE YOU SYUPID GERMANS!!!:slay: :slay: :slay: :die: :die: :die: [phaser] [phaser] [phaser]
Declare war on the Germans. :rotfl: Anyway calm down. Violance doesnt solve everyting. *dodges an axe thrown at his head* You guys should upgrade your weapons, if you are actually going to fight. Don't forget we have spiked helmets. *leaves the room and the guard on duty gets hit in the back of the head by his officer*

There were several threads dedicated to citizen minority groups before this one started.

I certainly hope that this violent and bigotted sentiment isn't universal. It's one thing to say "We're the best!". It's entirely different to say "You suck!".

Shall we put the National Gaurd on alert, Shaitan?

Originally posted by Cyc
Shall we put the National Gaurd on alert, Shaitan?
I don't think so. I'm hoping this is just leftover beer muscles from the banquet. ;)

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Originally posted by Eivind IV
We got warrior blood running through our veins, my brothers! They deliberately started that citizen group, only to provoke us. I am sure of that. But we, the Vikings will not kneel to any kind of agression. Offence is the best defence. I say we smash their sculls and rape their wifes. :die: And maybe plunder some churches while we're at it.:slay:

:viking: :groucho: Are you with me?:groucho: :groucho: :viking:

You can't kill me. I have body guards and the Heliopolis police (HPD) on my side. Besides, why can you celebrate your origin w/o allowing us to celebrate ours?

This has gone way beyond overboard. Smash skulls and rape wives? These are your own countrymen you are talking about!
This thread is for the Norwegian Ethnic group, NOT the Vikings.
I'm withdrawing my membership and support from this group.
As mayor of Valhall I will issue one last caution. Such threats can get you tossed by the mods. It will certainly get this group tossed from Valhall if it continues.

Geez, I've started a thread for Australians and Kiwis, but if it's going to end up like this, I think I might get it deleted. You guys should be ashamed, other citizens have just as much right to be in a ehnic minority as you do and judging by this thread we have MORE right to be proud of it!!

Hey guys, lets calm down a bit. The Germans thought our group name was nice and our goals as well (They are also planning to get a city of their own)

Lets think of that as flattering!:goodjob:

We'll still have the best group thought. With our great city Valhall and our own flag (Yes look through the thread and you'll find it)

Anyway now our group is back from the dead!! Woohoo!! [dance][dance]
And it is sticky, which means it is here to stay.[dance][dance] (Woo, look at him go!)

Some goals:

Have our flag slightly modified. (We talked about it before, remember. But it was never done)

The idea of Major Guevara, becoming really strong in the second demo game. Reigning from the start.

What would we want to build in Valhall? Perhaps we could convince the governour or mayor. (A lot of members means a lot of votes ;))

Any more ideas please.....

And if anybody with knowledge in editing pictures (Photoshop and stuff like that) would they please voulnteer to modify our flag. And of course we must agree on how it should be modified.

I totaly agree whit you Homie, things got a little out of hand here. I personaly dont have anything against germans or any other ethnic groups either for that matter. Anyway lets putt this behind us and getting back to subject.......My (our) flag (if you could call it that) could certainly need some improvments there really should be some runes in it and a longship or two. I say anyone whit better knowledge in photoshop then me should do a completly new flag but maybe we should decide what should be on it first. :viking:

Please, do not leave us Shaitan! Look to my post in the German Ethnic Group...

I'll stay, Eivind. Although I was indeed furious when I said I was leaving. Still a bit PO'd now even though I know it was just joking. I have a German wife, you see.

Anyway - Use winkies ( ;) ) or or j/k or something recognizable so people know you are joking when you write something like that!

On behalf of my German comrades, apology accepted @ Eivind. End of story.

About the Flag:

Yes I agree, it should have a longship or two in it, and maybe some writing in runes saying "Norwegian Ethnic Group" or something like that. It should look majestic and powerful.

But how will the colour scheme be?

Originally posted by Homie
About the Flag:

Yes I agree, it should have a longship or two in it, and maybe some writing in runes saying "Norwegian Ethnic Group" or something like that. It should look majestic and powerful.

But how will the colour scheme be?

"Norwegian Ethnic Group" was a bit tricky instead I did something like this, anyone knows what it says??

It says "loaf of bread, stick of butter, half a gallon of milk".

It's been a while though, my translation may be a bit off. ;)

Major, is what Shaitan said correct?

Edit: :o a bit of a hasty post here I think.
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"I would have done this sooner, but had trouble gaining access to the forum - connection problems" Paalikles, yes it was a bit late to post this, because everybody else has moved on. I thought we had left this behind us.

It was stated by the people involved that it was all joking. Apologies have been made and accepted, it is all clarified.
"On behalf of my German comrades, apology accepted @ Eivind. End of story." (grandmaster) As you see.....Oh, wait a minute. I lost my connection and had to rewrite my reply when I(now) noticed you had edited. Well, ok then. Should we say

"And that's the end of that chapter" (quote from a Simpsons episode)

Originally posted by Shaitan
It says "loaf of bread, stick of butter, half a gallon of milk".

It's been a while though, my translation may be a bit off. ;)

:lol:.....umh no thats not what it says. It was really funny though maybe it should be on the flag instead. Anyway it says (according to my rune key) "the viking group" :viking:

btw I found a great rune-font, just download it and we can all write runes!!! :viking:

Thx Major but how do we get to use it. is there somewhere we have to put it?

Originally posted by Homie
Thx Major but how do we get to use it. is there somewhere we have to put it?

Im not completly sure what you mean but if you mean how do I use the font here is the answer: put the file in a folder called "Fonts" or in Homies cease something like "Teckensnitt" the folder should be in the control-panel, then open "Word" and choose the font from the font list (it should be around the letter G if you didnt re-name the file) If this wasent what you meant I have just wasted the last minute writing this and I´ll be wery angry at you Homie ;)

Of course that is what I meant, Major, so thx again for the help. But the folder says "skrifter" (Norwegian) not "Teckenscnitt", I think that's german.

The summer vacation is over! (Sommerferien er over!)
I hope you have enjoyed every minute of it. I certainly have :)

We should try to keep this thread alive. Let us wake up and make this citizen group the "big brother" of every citizen groups. We have recived competition from our German comrades. Let them continue to look to us when they develop their citizen group.

Eivind, the game is over. You could make a new group in Demogame II.