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disorganizer
May 16, 2002, 02:06 PM
This thread should be used to state a condition when a public investigation should take place and to collect those accusations and the results of the following discussions and polls. It is not meant to be the discussion-thread for those incidents.

Investigations should take place if:
1) The "Veto-Option" of the cabinet was used in the "Turn-Chat"
2) Someone was devoiced in the "Turn-Chat"
3) Any action was taken in the "Turn-Chat" which was against the decisions of the citizenry.
4) Any action against the constitution was taken by anyone.

The resulting discussion and maybe polls should be taken out of this thread to separate threads, with a link from the coresponding post in here to the thread/poll.

Edit: Remember, this is not an anti-government thread.

Plexus
May 16, 2002, 05:05 PM
Impeach the governor of Ameri!! No, wait don't. Heh Heh. ;)

Shaitan
May 17, 2002, 06:36 AM
This is going to sound strange but I'm reporting myself. The Constitutional Amendment currently in the Council Vote stage does not contain one article that was approved by Citizen Poll. Specifically, the article approved a limiter on the voiced parties in the turn chat. Because there is currently a major discussion and revamping of the turn chat I chose to keep that article out of the Amendment that I submitted for ratification.

I'd like to make sure that this action is taken on its own merit, is supported and (most importantly) won't bite me in the kiester sometime down the road.

disorganizer
May 17, 2002, 02:28 PM
Official start of public investigation#1:
Shaitans Constitutional Ammendment

Please discuss in investigation#1-thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22747).

disorganizer
May 20, 2002, 01:36 PM
Official Warning Letter:

Dear Shaitan,

we had a public investigation of the incident involving the last change of our constitution.
The Citizenry noticed you handled in best will for our nation, so we do not take any further actions against you.

Best regards,
Disorganizer
Constitutional Protection Agency



With this letter, the investigation in now officially closed!
If some citizens see a need for further discussion of this topic, please open a new investigation.

chiefpaco
May 29, 2002, 09:41 PM
During the May 29 chat, the Science Advisor's queue was not followed. Phoenatica started Theory of Gravity instead of Magnetism in a vote.

Further details:
- It was justified by following the wishes of the citizens for the wonders program.
- Research is listed as debateable in the NSD header.

disorganizer
May 30, 2002, 01:52 PM
Official start of Public Investigation#2:
May 29 chat - Science queue
as of chiefpacos request

Please discuss in investigation#2-thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23697).

disorganizer
May 30, 2002, 02:07 PM
Official start of Public Investigation#3:
Term3-Elections - Spice Traders
as of an anonymous request

Please discuss in investigation#3-thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23698).

Godinex
May 30, 2002, 04:47 PM
And if We have saints, who will manage the investigation? We need a canonical Department!

disorganizer
Jun 02, 2002, 03:17 PM
Official close of Public Investigation#2.
Reason: Lack of public interest.

disorganizer
Jun 02, 2002, 03:27 PM
Public Guilty/Unguilty Polling (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23933) of Public Investigation#3

disorganizer
Jun 03, 2002, 03:06 AM
Official start of Public Investigation#4:
Impeachment of the president
as of my request

This is an urgent issue, so i directly started the citizen poll!
Please discuss and vote in investigation#4-thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23971).

Zur
Jun 03, 2002, 08:07 AM
During the 2 June turn chat, citizen votes were held for the construction of Newton's University and Shakespeare's Theatre in PDX. The results were 2-3 against and 3-2 for respectively. PDX completed Shakespeare's Theatre instead of Newton's University. An informal citizen poll in the forum was previously held over the choices of Smith's Trading Company, Newton's University and Shakespeare's Theatre. The results were:

Smith's and Newton's : 9
Smith's and Shakespeare's : 2
Shakespeare's and Newton's : 2

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23527

This may have been a case of not following citizens' wishes in the chat since Shakespeare's Theatre was built before Newton's University (now being built).

2 June Chatlog (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/june2log.zip)

The discussion is slightly after half-way through the chat.

disorganizer
Jun 03, 2002, 01:27 PM
Official start of Public Investigation#5:
June 2nd chat - Citizen poll ignored
as of Zurs request

Please discuss in investigation#5-thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24014).

disorganizer
Jun 04, 2002, 02:35 PM
Public Invesitgation#5 closed:
due to withdrawal of Zur and loss of public interest.

disorganizer
Jun 04, 2002, 02:37 PM
Announcment
The way these investigations work is clear. So why dont you start doing it yourself? Post the Start of the investigation in here with a link to a new thread, which should start with "Investigation#". You have enough examples for this now.
I will definitely not spawn any further investigations which are not originated from me.
Help yourself!

disorganizer
Jun 05, 2002, 07:58 AM
Public Investigation#4 Close:
donsig found not guilty

poll results:
23% guilty
58% not guilty
19% abstain
26 votes given

Cyc
Jun 05, 2002, 03:11 PM
Excellent work putting this together, Dis. I believe the citizenry needed this thread available to them.

disorganizer
Jun 07, 2002, 02:37 PM
Public Investigation#3 Closed:
STG found not guilty

poll results:
19% guilty
71% not guilty
10% abstain
21 votes given

chiefpaco
Jun 12, 2002, 09:42 PM
Public Investigation #6 Opened: Chat poll ignored. Please discuss here:
Public Investigation #6: Chat Poll Ignored (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24719)

disorganizer
Jun 14, 2002, 03:20 PM
Public Investigation #6:
Guilty/Unguilty Poll and Measure discussion (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24881) open now.

Cyc
Jun 30, 2002, 11:22 PM
I think we need a public investigation for the Presidential election. I just looked at that thread and the vote count was
15-5-2. I left to go scan the citizen forum by way of the main forum and saw dukes name as browsing that forum. I was gone for about a minute and went back to the main forum to look for anything duke may have posted. There I saw the run-off thread. Not understanding how Strider could have gotten 3 votes that quickly, I went to the Govt. forum to check the Presidential election thread. The vote now was 18-5-5 and the poll was closed. Personally, I'd like to know how the election poll, which hadn't changed in quite some time, got 6 votes just before the polls closed, changing the outcome of the VP race.

Duke of Marlbrough
Jul 01, 2002, 12:21 AM
I'm not sure on all the timing of it but I do know that around 8:00PM (GMT -8) I made one proxy vote for Chieftess. I closed the polls at around 8:30PM or 9:00PM (GMT -8). We know Strider had two votes as of June 29th 4:16PM (GMT -8) from his post in the thread.

To see new people in the forum people would need to refresh their page if they were already in there to see the new people on the list. The same would be true for poll results. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a PM wave at the end of the day that people just followed a link to the poll.

I know that when I was closing and moving threads I did notice others in the forum, but did not take note of their names.

I will add this to the list of polls that need to be reviewed.

Chieftess
Jul 01, 2002, 06:07 AM
I was with Strider in the chat room, and Strider did ask a couple of people if they voted yet.

Duke of Marlbrough
Jul 02, 2002, 12:36 AM
I'm also contemplating the next elections being by PM.

No polls. Each person would just send me one PM for who they vote for in each position. That would eliminate and poll stuffing and remove people being able to see what the current vote count is to affect their vote.
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