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TheJopa Jun 20, 2007, 03:34 PM After playing few multiplayer games I came to an idea to make one large multiplayer champaign. I see that there are players who are interested so here are the basic rules:
1. I envision a game with at least 8 players. If there will be more interested we can play with more. Map size will be scaled accordingly.
2. Since we wont be able to finish it in one sitting, we will play in sessions. Time at which sessions will be played will be known in advance.
At this point correct time is to be determined.
Proposed time: Once a week, Sundays, 19:00 - 22:00 GMT
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/
3. If you can't play next session, you are supposed to find your replacement for next session. It should be someone in who you have your confidence (At least concerning playing skills :) ). In all fairness replacement should follow main players instructions on how to play, which goals to pursue etc. After you arrange your replacement name it here, in this thread.
If you can't find replacement you should then state whether you would prefer your civ to be AI'ed or played by anyone who might apply for session.
4. Sessions will be played in predetermined length (3 hours?) So we can plan our time and to avoid cases where some players want to drop and some to keep on playing. If you need to leave, it's ok, but your civ will either be AI-played until end of session or you need to find substitution to jump in.
5. We should role play at least a little bit. So good players should help other good players instead of killing them off at first sign of weakness. Players should help 'their brothers and sisters in faith' and be ready to help them in war, at least economicaly. Roleplaying isn't strictly enforced but I think it would make game much more fun and allow few interesting turnovers in a game. If one player starts mindlessly taking cities from other players other players then he should face serious gang-up. Also evil-vs-good battles are encouraged! Isn't that what we all want to see in our SP games?
6. You need Hamachi, that's how we will organize ourselves.
7. Since AI isn't best, especially in battle, you MUSTN'T declare war to AI'ed civ. If you are forced to do so for some reason you should ask other players for quick vote. If AI attacks you you can defend but you can't take much (just enough so that you don't end up economically defeated), terms of peace deal must be approved by other players quick vote.
Enlist here, if you are interested. All problems will be easily solved as long as we remember it is all for fun. Also name your civ and leader and state what time would be fine for you, as arranging time is hardest part of this all
PLAYERS:
TheJopa - Flauros - Calabim
Claire - Balseraph - Prepentach
Black Whole - Luchuirp - Garrim Gyr
TheGreenLink - Ljosalfar - Arendel
Much2Much - Doviello - Mahala
Brainpan - Grigori - Cassiel
Jono - Hippus - Tasunke
Chandrasekhar Jun 21, 2007, 12:15 AM I'm interested... but I'd rather have just human players instead of including AI.
wilboman Jun 21, 2007, 01:32 AM I think the AI would just step in if someone drops out. So it would be temporary. Le sigh. This would be fun (I'd get my butt handed to me in short order, but still fun) if I had the time (read: a life outside work).
vorshlumpf Jun 21, 2007, 01:36 AM I'm very interested. My schedule opens up quite a bit after this weekend. However, most weekday nights I'm not available, as that's when I teach. I'll understand if I simply cannot be a part of this...
Thoughts:
- I'm indifferent to the inclusion of AI. Personally, I feel that "the more, the merrier", however I can see how the AI may be exploited in MP.
- "We should role play at least a little bit." Yes!
- I think I'd be interested in playing Kandros Fir since the dwarves need some love.
TheJopa Jun 21, 2007, 02:16 AM I'm glad you have positive comments. Wilboman is right, AI would be just temporary, in case someone drops out and there is no replacement available. Vorshlump- AI may be exploited pretty badly especially latter in game when spells come, that is why I put the rule about not attacking AI'd civ. Putting AI is only a last resort, if some player cant play session.
.SinClaire. Jun 21, 2007, 02:40 AM i want in! Unless i'm hindered by other affairs.
So can this be like, Vatican themed? I mean we each have our own civ, and we are all obligied to one civ and civ leader, and if anyone breaks and attacks a fellow civ the "Pope" leader can call on all loyal nations and inact a justifiable war against the so-n-so civ/civs?
of course we have to hack n slash our way to that position of power. To see who amongst us is the true leader of ffh'ers. Not killing each other off, just like...'own' 'em. Kinda like prison rape. :D
If one player starts mindlessly taking cities from other players other players then he should face serious gang-up. Also evil-vs-good battles are encouraged! Isn't that what we all want to see in our SP games?
yeah, but if someone is an evil civ. they can prove themselves to be the "top dog" then everyone should be considered "evil" and good civ's be punis'shed. :p
Black Whole Jun 21, 2007, 05:59 AM First, great idea!
I would be interested, but I' ve got some questions/requests:
1. EDIT: I already found the answer for the first question
2. What happens if the AI declares war on me and comes with a hero? Am I forced to let him alive?
3. If we roleplay, I think that we should totally roleplay! Everyone should have to.
4. Could the length for a session not take more than 3 hours? I've got also some work to do.
5. What kind of game options will we play with?
If I play (it depends on time and length), I wil play as the Luchuirp with Garrim Gyr.
Here are the times (all in MET): Monday: only after six o'clock in the evening
Tuesday: the whole afternoon and evening
Wednesday: no time
Thursday: see Tuesday
Friday: afternoon from 2 o'clock to 6 o'clock
Saturday and Sunday: nearly every hour
Kjaaly Jun 21, 2007, 08:06 AM I think I'd be interrested, but I wont be able to play on tuesdays until 5 pm and same with saturday. All other days I'd be able to play from 2 pm. (All this is GMT)
Just a few questions: How about religions? Of course the Ljosalfar would adobt FotL, but how about civs like the Amurites? It's a bit blurred which religion they'd follow, so can the player decide for themselves there?
And which difficulty are we playing? Same or depending on the player? (I usually play on noble :blush: )
If the time's not a too big problem, I'd like to play Dain the Caswallawn. (Or if he's already taken, Tebryn/Cassiel)
Grey Fox Jun 21, 2007, 12:04 PM I'd be interested.
I got all the time in the world (except when I'm sleeping, looking for a job or working on cIVRPG, all of which are not on any scheduled time)
And to Kjaaly, I think you/we should be allowed to play freely with our civs. And roleplay them accordingly. If you want to play as an Evil Elohim, you should be able to.
I think I'd like to play as Amelanchier.
TheJopa Jun 21, 2007, 12:59 PM First the replies:
yeah, but if someone is an evil civ. they can prove themselves to be the "top dog" then everyone should be considered "evil" and good civ's be punis'shed.
Of course, evil civs would roleplay if they attack whenever they get good opportunity. But good civs would roleplay too and try to stop them at doing so.
2. What happens if the AI declares war on me and comes with a hero? Am I forced to let him alive?
No.
That's would be answer from top of my head, since you are defending. But if it comes to that situation, we might see if it is really inevitable and what are other options.
Third option would be using worldbuilder on start of next session and return hero (maybe with less xp?) I don't know if this is doable.
3. If we roleplay, I think that we should totally roleplay! Everyone should have to.
Those who resent roleplaying shouldn't join at all so I doubt it will make a big problem. I do have a set of rules on my mind but lets leave them for game no.2. For start, lets play without strict rules and let our fun factor be a guide.
4. Could the length for a session not take more than 3 hours? I've got also some work to do.
I think it should take exactly 3 hours, no more or less, so that you can plan your work ahead. Of course, this is negotiable, we might play 2 hours only but with more sessions if we all agree to. In any case it should be exactly defined how long to play
5. What kind of game options will we play with?
I personally support random map, tech trading on, map size scaled to # of players (I don't want too small, we need exploration, but even worse is too big as real game begins when borders collide) I think it wont be a problem to agree upon the settings, some standard settings should be fine for everyone. We can also do all random.
Just a few questions: How about religions? Of course the Ljosalfar would adobt FotL, but how about civs like the Amurites? It's a bit blurred which religion they'd follow, so can the player decide for themselves there?
And which difficulty are we playing? Same or depending on the player? (I usually play on noble
You are free to pick any religion. Especially with neutral civs. But what should be punished is frequent religion switches. You can 'fall' with Elohim but you shouldn't be able to come back easily.
Haredst part: Time
Vorshlump, which timezone are you?
I'm CET (GMT+1) I can play 20:00 and latter (up until noon) any day.
Kjalay, Black Whole, Grey Fox (at weekdays) seem fine with this time.
.SinClaire. Jun 21, 2007, 01:32 PM I guess I'm in, for summer time anyway, i'll probably play 8:00pm (CET time)
maybe only for 3 hours or so a day though, :sad:
I'll be Perpencrap, ;)
much2much Jun 21, 2007, 02:16 PM I would love to play.
I would like to be Mahala of the Doviello.
I will not declare war on anybody I have the same religion as. I would suggest you are not allowed to declare war on somebody who has the same religion unless there is a semi-legitimate reason (has open borders to your enemy). If you change religions you can't attack previous brothers/sisters for 20 turns (cultural stability and propaganda realignment penalty).
I will honour alliances (I will need them anyway to avoid being dogpiled). I would suggest humans adopt the policy that closing open borders requires a 10 turn period before war can be declared (anymore than this and legitimate issues like culture bombing or city spamming around borders cannot be retaliated for).
Would a scoreboard be worthwhile? 10 points for a game victory, 4 points for surviving to the end of the game, 1 point for participating? That way players won't go for broke for a victory and sacrifice their civs ability to survive, which is very poor roleplaying (unless you are Hitler).
Black Whole Jun 21, 2007, 02:59 PM So, when do we start? 20:00 is fine with me, I just need to know if we start already tomorrow, so I can arrange it.
Btw, it seems that I am the only good civ so far. Can I get a bonus to compensate it ;)?
vorshlumpf Jun 21, 2007, 06:01 PM I would love to play.
I would like to be Mahala of the Doviello.
I will not declare war on anybody I have the same religion as. I would suggest you are not allowed to declare war on somebody who has the same religion unless there is a semi-legitimate reason (has open borders to your enemy). If you change religions you can't attack previous brothers/sisters for 20 turns (cultural stability and propaganda realignment penalty).
I will honour alliances (I will need them anyway to avoid being dogpiled). I would suggest humans adopt the policy that closing open borders requires a 10 turn period before war can be declared (anymore than this and legitimate issues like culture bombing or city spamming around borders cannot be retaliated for).
Would a scoreboard be worthwhile? 10 points for a game victory, 4 points for surviving to the end of the game, 1 point for participating? That way players won't go for broke for a victory and sacrifice their civs ability to survive, which is very poor roleplaying (unless you are Hitler).
I think these rules are going too far, too soon. As TheJopa said, we can think about such things after the first game. For now, basically play your role selflessly and all will go well.
I like the idea of a scoreboard. However, I would like to see less relative points for victory, and some points added in by vote of players for good role-playing. Something like each player will have 3 points to give to other players (however they please) as role-playing points when the game is over.
Oh, and my time zone?... GMT -7 (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=256)
After this weekend I'm willing to play late in the evenings (for me) on weekdays; and even in the middle of the night, if necessary. I guess that would be GMT 3:00 to 14:00. On weekends I can be much more free - any time of day (negating weekend plans which arise from time-to-time).
vorshlumpf Jun 21, 2007, 06:02 PM By the way, what does random map mean?
vorshlumpf Jun 21, 2007, 06:06 PM One last thing: I don't see anything wrong with justified wars between those of the same faith. Every religion has its different sects, and they don't always agree.
As I said before, if every act is done in the name of role-play as opposed to personal triumph, it will go just fine.
Nikis-Knight Jun 21, 2007, 11:45 PM It'd be fun, but I usually end up with connectivity issues, not sure why. I'll be interested to read about it, though.
TheJopa Jun 22, 2007, 03:34 AM I propose that we play Sundays, CET - 20:00 to 23:00 or 23:00 to 2:00 or anything in between. So far it seems to suit everyone. It is afternoon in USA.
Wars between same religions are fine, like in real world, but should be less likely and who ever declared war might be attacked from other civs who share that religion.
EDIT: So far we have 2 evil, 2 good and 2 neutral civs.
vorshlumpf Jun 22, 2007, 12:44 PM Well, that would be a great time for me.
brainpan Jun 22, 2007, 02:19 PM I would love to be included in the lineup, but I periodically need to leave town for work. Ironically, weekdays would be better for me since I tend to work on weekends...but if there's any possible way for me to swing the schedule I'll let you know.
PS-I would enjoy playing as Grigori since Vorschlump has claimed my favored Khazad.
PPS-I would suggest people use this GMT page (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/) for scheduling to avoid errors.
brainpan Jun 22, 2007, 02:24 PM I have reset my computer clock to GMT, and it makes online meet-ups seem easier somehow. It also helps me to get my head around local times of various members when I'm trying to set up spontaneous games.
vorshlumpf Jun 23, 2007, 12:59 AM I would love to be included in the lineup, but I periodically need to leave town for work. Ironically, weekdays would be better for me since I tend to work on weekends...but if there's any possible way for me to swing the schedule I'll let you know.
PS-I would enjoy playing as Grigori since Vorschlump has claimed my favored Khazad.
PPS-I would suggest people use this GMT page (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/) for scheduling to avoid errors.
Well, having recently read the History for Kandros, you could take Arturus and we would be rivals. That would make for a pretty dwarf-heavy game, though.
TheJopa Jun 23, 2007, 03:36 AM Should we play tomorrow in 21:00 CET? (15:00 East Coast time)
Kjaaly Jun 23, 2007, 04:28 AM Ummm, that time would be fine with me most of the time, but this monday, I have to get up early. Sooo, would it be possible to start one hour earlier just this sunday?
much2much Jun 23, 2007, 08:04 AM Ummm, that time would be fine with me most of the time, but this monday, I have to get up early. Sooo, would it be possible to start one hour earlier just this sunday?
And it begins.....
Can I please be Dilbert of the Anonymous Corporation civ?
Black Whole Jun 23, 2007, 10:46 AM 21:00 is fine with me.
But the good civs are outnumbered! There are 4 neutral (khazad, ljosalfar, grigori, amurites), 2 evil civs (doviello, balseraph) and only one good civ(luchuirp). I see me already crushed by an alliance of evil or neutral.:eek:
TheJopa Jun 23, 2007, 12:23 PM I think that elves are good, and neutral only when led by Tessa? And if dvarves take runes, they are more good than evil.
Kjaaly, you can quit hour earlier, or try to find a replacement for this session/last hour of session. In the end 20:00 is fine with me, time is negotiable so far, but we should settle this quickly if we want to play this Sunday.
brainpan Jun 23, 2007, 12:29 PM Yay! I can't work tomorrow so I am definitely in. Thanks for setting this up the jopa.
Black Whole Jun 23, 2007, 12:31 PM I think that elves are good, and neutral only when led by Tessa? And if dvarves take runes, they are more good than evil.
Kjaaly, you can quit hour earlier, or try to find a replacement for this session/last hour of session. In the end 20:00 is fine with me, time is negotiable so far, but we should settle this quickly if we want to play this Sunday.
20:00 is ok for me, too.
And the elves are only good when they are led by Arendel Phaedra.
TheJopa Jun 23, 2007, 12:34 PM 20:00 is ok for me, too.
And the elves are only good when they are led by Arendel Phaedra.
I see, my bad. But anyway pretty much all neutrals are more-good-than evil except Amurites who can really go either way.
Grey Fox Jun 23, 2007, 12:40 PM I see, my bad. But anyway pretty much all neutrals are more-good-than evil except Amurites who can really go either way.
Grigori are the neutral midpoint.
Kjaaly Jun 23, 2007, 12:43 PM But anyway pretty much all neutrals are more-good-than evil except Amurites who can really go either way.
"Hmm... If we're good, the people will hesitate before usurping us, but if we're evil, we gain cool magic.... Oh, maaagiiiic......"
Anyway, sorry for causing this trouble, but I'd hate to miss the early turns. I can screw up enough without the AI helping me...
TheJopa Jun 23, 2007, 12:47 PM Grigori are led by angel who sacrificed himself and his powers to help humans, so I see him more good than evil. I might be wrong though.
I added 20:00 to 23:00 as an option in the first page. What do you people prefer?
Grey Fox Jun 23, 2007, 01:27 PM I see him as the absolute midpoint between Basium and Hyborem.
TheJopa Jun 23, 2007, 01:50 PM I don't see Basium as absolute good however :D
I think I might pick something good to even the odds though.
R0GERSHRUBBER Jun 23, 2007, 10:06 PM Are you playing on June 24?
I was considering playing, but I've never done MP before (or used Hamachi), so I'm not completely certain what to expect. (PMs or IMs explaining the software and the differences between MP and SP play would be appreciated, actually.)
I would be open to playing any civ. When will we establish the game settings? I propose a mostly-land map (Pangaea, etc.) so we will have relatively early contact with each other.
Jopa, have you decided upon a civ? I think we should maintain a balance between good and evil, which is leaning slightly in favor of evil now. In light of that, I would be open to Bannor, Elohim, or Malakim.
MagisterCultuum Jun 24, 2007, 12:13 AM In a way, the Neutral Angels are much more good than the good ones. They are continuing to do what they were created to do, while the evil ones have become corrupt and the good ones obsessed with stopping the evil ones, fighting to protect us mortals, but destroying many in the process. It is the Neutral gods (originally Cassiel's) idea to make the compact, putting an end to the devastating wars. It is Cassiel who most tries to share the truth with humanity and to protect it.
Cassiel should be as strongly opposed to such "good" civs as the Bannor and their oppressively good god Junil (or Sabathiel) as to the evil ones, and should really not like either Hyborem or Basium, but he should get along quite well with the Elohim. Immanuel Logos and him seem like kindred spirits, not letting something as petty as religious differences stop them from doing what is right.
Basium was an angel under Arawn, the neutral god of death who mostly stayed out of mettling in Creation (acting in a way that Cassiel would like). If Basium had done what he was supposed to, he too would be neutral. It is rebelling against authority (much like Agares did, bringing evil into existence) that makes him good.
Neutral = Really Good, Good = Anti-evil (usually, but this might make the Elohim seem more neutral than good)
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 02:59 AM Rogershrubber, yeah, it's today. You need hamachi, it's pretty simple to use.
http://www.hamachi.cc/download/
I suppose that everyone wont show up tonight so you might jump in instead of someone tonight for first session. Or I can add you as ninth player if everyone shows up.
QES Jun 24, 2007, 03:41 AM It'd be fun, but I usually end up with connectivity issues, not sure why. I'll be interested to read about it, though.
If there was some way to "shadow" the world. I.e. see the game but not be "in" it - you might be able to make a fantastic chronicle of what transpired. Stories are born thusly.
-Qes
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 04:56 AM Some games allow observers, not sure about civ4, though.
Will we play at 20 or 21? I'll be on hamachi slightly before 20 onwards.
R0GERSHRUBBER Jun 24, 2007, 07:03 AM Proposed time: One a week, Sundays, 21:00 - 0:00 Central European Time
The thread implies 21:00 for Sundays and maybe 20:00 for another as of yet undetermined day of the week. I'll be on early to learn Hamachi anyway.
So are the game details going to be determined tonight just before we play?
Grey Fox Jun 24, 2007, 11:12 AM So is it at 20:00 or 21:00?
much2much Jun 24, 2007, 11:44 AM What time is it in GMT time?
brainpan Jun 24, 2007, 11:45 AM 20 or 21 GMT, my friend. :)
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 12:25 PM Don try to screw him Brainpan :)
From the main thread:
Useful tool:
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/ (So we play either 18h or 19h GMT)
20 or 21 CET.
I'll create a game in 20h CET, 18 GMT. Some people haven't stated what would they prefer, so if we get enough players in 20, we are starting immediately since I doubt that others will make it to this session anyway.
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 12:29 PM The thread implies 21:00 for Sundays and maybe 20:00 for another as of yet undetermined day of the week. I'll be on early to learn Hamachi anyway.
So are the game details going to be determined tonight just before we play?
Ooops, its ONCE a week, Sundays 21:00 OR once a week, Sundays 20:00
I'm on channels FallFromHeavenFull and FallFromHeavenAnnex, I'll also post an IP here.
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 12:35 PM Which version of hamachi do we use?
How is the password for those channels?
much2much Jun 24, 2007, 12:35 PM Why do people use these CET and US standard times? GMT is the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD. We are always playing with players from many different time zones. Except brainpan he is a bot.
So please go GMT. That way everybody has to know only two things:
1) What time it is for them
2) How different they are from GMT (I'm +10 for example)
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 12:40 PM It was stated in first post, 18 or 19 GMT. However some people think GMT is same as English time so I deliberately put CET also.
Vesion of hamachi? Whatever you get when you download, it works. Password is ffh on them all
much2much Jun 24, 2007, 12:48 PM It doesn't really matter just update to the latest version anyway. It is just a tunnelling protocol so I am pretty sure it will work even if your version is a bit old. Small download anyway though, and if you are on dialup you shouldn't be playing FFH!
Hamachi limits each "network" to 16 people who don't have a licensed version. This DOES NOT affect who you can actually connect to, just who you can "see" in Hamachi. So if you can find out the IP address of the host from someone (copy and paste it) you can join the game.
Please also read this post: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5598546&postcount=1624
Which version of hamachi do we use?
How is the password for those channels?
much2much Jun 24, 2007, 12:53 PM Password for all FFH networks is ffh
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 12:53 PM 5.176.169.197 I havent created yet though, it should be in in few minutes
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 12:53 PM Yes, it seems both channels are full. Could someone post the IP-address if theJopa created a game? Please?
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 12:58 PM Is the game already created?
much2much Jun 24, 2007, 01:06 PM Game hosted on my IP: 5.163.131.50
By the way Hamachi IP addresses are permanent (Hamachi MIGHT change them with system upgrades but mine has stayed the same 3 months so far).
Read that post I linked to again BlackWhole.
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 01:08 PM Join much2much IP,I have some firewall issues with hosting but just join his IP
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 01:09 PM It seems that I can't connect to you much2much.
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 01:09 PM Join much2much IP,I have some firewall issues with hosting but just join his IP
5.163.131.50
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 01:29 PM Again on my IP 5.176.169.197
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 01:33 PM In which cahnnel are you, The Jopa?
It seems that I can only connect if I am in the same channel
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 01:36 PM We are all in FallFromHeaven, I'm as well in 2 others
EDIT-I left others, try now
much2much Jun 24, 2007, 01:40 PM Wrong.
If you know their IP address you can connect regardless of what networks you are in.
In which cahnnel are you, The Jopa?
It seems that I can only connect if I am in the same channel
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 02:09 PM R0GERSHRUBBER, will you join our game?
5.62.133.67 is my Ip-Address.
We are all in the FallFromHeaven channel.
R0GERSHRUBBER Jun 24, 2007, 02:10 PM I'd like to, but I'm new to this; what do I need to do?
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 02:11 PM Install hamachi and set it up, then copy ip and run Civ4 - Fall from Heaven then go multiplayer, direct IP, and paste IP in the required field
Black Whole Jun 24, 2007, 02:12 PM when you opened hamachi, join the network above with the password ffh
then open civ and go multiplayer then direct Ip-connection and enter my ip address above and join
R0GERSHRUBBER Jun 24, 2007, 02:21 PM Bah, FFH2 locked after I told it to connect. I'll try again.
EDIT: It happened again; after trying to connect, the music continues and I have the ability to move the mouse, but nothing in the Civ interface responds to clicking. For some reason I am unable to Alt+Tab out of Civ or otherwise see anything other than the multiplayer screen. I'm guessing it's a firewall issue (I'm using ZoneAlarm), but whereas I would normally be prompted for permission or something, I am unable to see anything other than the civ multiplayer connection screen.
TheJopa Jun 24, 2007, 02:40 PM Nah, after such connectivity issues we skipped session and we'll hopefully play next week. Two players had troubles connecting even after we tried everything, and 3 players didn't come (Claire had some urgent stuff to do but said to join latter, she couldn't because we weren't playing, and I don't know about Vorschlump and Brainpan) Much2much said to get licence for hammachi so hopefully we'll get some more stable connection next week.
Issues were mainly caused by firewall and if someone knows how to fix it advice would be appreciated.
brainpan Jun 24, 2007, 03:19 PM I mistakenly believed it was 20 or 21 GMT. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER use any other time standard but GMT or schedules will end up being missed.
Hope that was clear enough.
brainpan Jun 24, 2007, 03:23 PM And no, let's not have Pacific, Central European, or even Eastern Outer Mongolian Daylight Savings Time again please.
vorshlumpf Jun 25, 2007, 02:04 PM I don't know about Vorschlump and Brainpan
As I said in my original post, I could only start playing after the weekend. I'm free now, so I'll be ready for this coming Sunday. My time zone is QOTC +5.47.
Kjaaly Jun 30, 2007, 09:20 AM So, were we playing this sunday? And if yes, 7 or 8 pm GMT?
TheJopa Jun 30, 2007, 12:09 PM I'm all for it. Everyone who applied is invited, who hasn't applied is invited to do so.
19:00 GMT is time that I propose.
Grey Fox Jun 30, 2007, 12:19 PM I'll go ahead and remove myself from the list. A game with these many players seems impossible for me.
TheJopa Jun 30, 2007, 01:01 PM I think it's hamachi colliding with firewall and causes probs. :(
Grey Fox Jun 30, 2007, 03:27 PM Wrong.
If you know their IP address you can connect regardless of what networks you are in.
That doesn't seem to be correct. Me and another player can NEVER connect if we are not in the same channel.
brainpan Jun 30, 2007, 08:49 PM If it helps your decision, Grey Fox, I will be out of town this weekend.
Kjaaly Jul 01, 2007, 12:57 PM Is it already started, am I late, who's hosting, what's going on?
R0GERSHRUBBER Jul 01, 2007, 01:08 PM It looks like all four Hamachi FFH are full, so we're going to need to coordinate some other way.
Perhaps we should have a room for this game by itself?
Who is hosting?
Black Whole Jul 01, 2007, 01:45 PM Yes, I agrre. We should create a room for us. Maybe call it FallFromHeavenGreatGame?
TheJopa Jul 01, 2007, 01:49 PM Ok, Created with password ffh
Black Whole Jul 01, 2007, 02:01 PM For those, who want to play with us:
We are in the channel FallFromHeavenGreatGame in hamachi. The password is ffh.
R0GERSHRUBBER Jul 01, 2007, 02:41 PM Did you end up playing?
TeraHammer Jul 01, 2007, 09:16 PM I'd like to join in too, Jopa, and play as hannah the irin (lanun).
Sunday 19:00-22:00 is great for me.
I'm all for complete roleplaying.
mipe Jul 02, 2007, 05:08 AM I would like to play, but I think I am that bad that I lose before turn 100... Could someone take a video from the game? It would be nice to see how the game went :)
TheJopa Jul 02, 2007, 01:02 PM join, we need players anyway, plus if you pick good civ you could expect some help anyway!
Black Whole Jul 02, 2007, 01:36 PM I wonder how the help for good civ players looks like... :mischief:
TeraHammer Jul 08, 2007, 07:28 AM So, is this still on?
R0GERSHRUBBER Jul 08, 2007, 08:23 AM Well, the game has failed to make every weekend so far, so make of that what you will. If you're interested, log into one of the Hamachi rooms this afternoon and ask around.
TheJopa Jul 08, 2007, 01:39 PM Yeah, I found out (not only in this game, but in last month) that with more than 4 players you get severe stability issues and players unable to join so I don't have much hope, but we can try one more time.
Hopefully Beyond the Sword will improve some things. And remember we are playing vanilla Civ4, I think warlords are more stable, I played few 6-7 players games there, however after FfH warlords seem...blah ;)
TheJopa Jul 08, 2007, 05:08 PM We played out the first session, report tomorrow ;)
Bill Bisco Jul 08, 2007, 05:49 PM Perhaps you could explain to us your idea of reporting. I took some screen shots as asked. Of course, I don't exactly want to reveal too much since you all haven't met me in game yet :D
TheJopa Jul 09, 2007, 03:18 AM Perhaps you could explain to us your idea of reporting. I took some screen shots as asked. Of course, I don't exactly want to reveal too much since you all haven't met me in game yet :D
Yeah, my thoughts exactly, I don't want to reveal too much too. :D You could edit screenshots to cut unwanted parts, such as minimap :)
seZereth Jul 09, 2007, 06:57 AM hope you guys find a good way to report, i am very interested in reading about this!! 9and hopefully see some cool screenshots :))
Jono Jul 09, 2007, 08:06 AM I forgot to take screenshots after a while, so you'll miss Loki making an army of spiders.
Black Whole Jul 10, 2007, 10:44 AM I wrote a little story of the first king of the Luchuirp, as a report (here, I only tell general things, nothing, that would reveal too much from my point of view :)) :
"The first thing I noticed was the sun warming my face. After centuries of cold and ice, this little thing made me feel happy and filled my heart with enthusiasm.
My name is Garrim Gyr and it is my task to lead the Luchuirp to a new life, full of peace and and wealth. But now, my people has to work to achieve the aims of our ancestors.
I saw our place and thought, that we could settle here, but the jungle in the south seemed threatening, so I decided to settle somewhere off this peril.
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In the same year,we founded our capital, Ithralia, and from there on, our empire should florish for decades. While I organised the construction and protection of our city, some of our scouts already met other tribes, which also enjoyed the warmth of the sun. Soon they also spotted their empires.
First, they discovered the empireof human tribe, which looked not much different than the animals roaming in the wilderness. They called themselves ‘Doviello’ but I doubted that they would be able to create an empire, which could stand the test of time as their cities reminded of a pile of wood and stone.
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But not far away, our scouts spotted the next human empire. Other than the beastmen we met before, this people seemed more civilized even though their queen reminded me of a kraken. Not only the look but also the art of living of this people, ‘Lanun’ as I am told, was causing this link. They lived near the water, which I supposed to be their home because many of them lived as fishermen or sailors.
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Years of work passed, when suddenly I was informed, that an emissary of the ‘Calabim’ empire has been seen at our borders. I talked to him and to his master. They became very suspicious to me because their behaviour and acting was other than I knew it from humans so far. Their skin was much paler and the eyes of the leader, ‘Flauros’ was his name, showed a wisdom and power, which just didn’t fit to his young look. I sensed a strange feeling, while talking to him. We should observe this empire carefully.
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Again one decade passed by when our scouts scried the ‘Balseraphian’ empire. As I contacted their leader, he turned out to be a child not more than 15 winters old. The chat with her was annoying. She had or pretended to have a confused mind, I am not sure about this. Anyway she became very cheeky and I soon left the snseless conversation because she already began to confuse me too. I know that the Luchuirp are very famous for their beautiful machinery and sculptures, but this doesn’t mean that EVERYONE in our empire is a machine.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/75477/balseraph.jpg
While I was away for this ‘conversations’, my people founded the city of Mutanbo. But soon something terrible happened:
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The myth of an orc hero reached our empire and he should be near our empire! However, we finally researched the mysteries of the goddess being the mother of the dwarves and dedicated her a religion, which should be known as the ‘Runes of the Kilmorph’.
The next decades were very peaceful and only myths were reaching our empire. Three other religions should have been founded: ‘Fellowship of Leaves’, ‘Octopus Overlords’ (which was adopted by the childish queen) and ‘The Order’.
Our scouts also found the Calabim empire, where they were attacked by a Lizerdman. But thanks to Kilmorph, he survived this assault. At the same time, the childish queen trained a clown called ‘Loki’, who should get on my nerves years later.
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Yet, the scouts have been killed by a bloodthirsty bear two years later.
The message that Orthus, the barbarian king was heading for the Lanun empire relieved us and I decided to found the third city, Tia’ran.
In my late years of reign, we heard that the Lanun empire has been destroyed by the barbarians. And now, before I will pass on the crown to my son, our craftsmen created a sculpture, which should be the best piece of work I’ve seen in my life. They called him Barnaxus, which means ‘the sculpture, which can learn’. I gave Barnaxus an important mission and then I retired. I hope that my son will lead the Luchuirp to greater glory than it has now and I wish him the strength to lead our people through all perils."
Black Whole Jul 15, 2007, 09:02 AM Just to inform you everyone:
This night, I will be absent :(.
Which means, that my player position as the Luchuirp is open for this weekend. For those, who are interested, please contact me with a PM until 17:00 GMT. Sorry that I post this that late, but I I was informed about this a few minutes ago.
Anyway, I still have to find out, why my internet reconnects at midnight everytime.:badcomp:
TheJopa Jul 15, 2007, 01:15 PM Sorry, won't be able to play as well. Family business this night, and no way I can postpone it :(
Replace me with whoever or put AI.
Sorry again...
brainpan Jul 15, 2007, 05:40 PM Good work with the game report! Hearing about all the craziness that happens in others games is almost as fun as playing them. :)
Micky Onimusha Jul 17, 2007, 03:01 PM "And now, before I will pass on the crown to my son, our craftsmen created a sculpture, which should be the best piece of work I’ve seen in my life. They called him Barnaxus"
Didn't Barnaxus return to the Luchuirp after they came back out after the Ice Age? (rather than being 'buillt' after the Ice Age)
Just a minor nitpick, interesting report.
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