SGOTM 05 - Barbaric Mongolians

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You are Temujin, Leader of the Mongolian Hordes. You have tired of fighting the Barbarians, and so this time you have decided to join them instead. You will win a glorious victory in this Monarch game, of course, but you are teamed with the Barbarians, and you have to adapt to Barbarian assets and liabilities:


You have no starting techs.
The barbs are your friends, and are fighting on your team.
You will benefit from the Barbarian capability to explore the world in animal and human form.
You can research, but you will also learn techs that the Barbarians learn.
.... And you start off at war with everyone on the planet except the Barbarians. You can make peace with anyone.


The Objective
This Monarch difficulty game is on a Standard size, Gyathaar-special map, at Epic speed, against 7 rivals. All victory conditions are enabled (For Conquest - see notes), and the laurels for this contest will be awarded to the teams who achieve the earliest victory date in the game.

Versions
This game will be played in Civilization IV version 1.61, using HoF Mod 1.61.011.

Mac players are welcome, but they must form one or more separate teams, as the HoF Mod cannot be made to work cross-platform. They will use Mac HoF Mod 1.61.011.

Sign up
The game will start on July 19th.

Please post in this thread if you wish to join a team and take part in the competition. The information required to place you in a suitable team is as follows:-


Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?


Starting Position
Here's the starting position - click the image below to see a larger version.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/civ4games/images/sgotm5_start_small.jpg (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/civ4games/images/sgotm5_start_large.jpg)

Map Parameters
Playable Leader/Civ - Temujin of Mongolia.
Characteristics - Expansive, aggressive.
Unique Unit - Keshik (Horse archer)
Rivals - 7: China, Japan, India, Arabia, Spain, Persia and Greece
World size - Standard
Difficulty - Monarch
Landform - Special, sort of a fractal archipelago.
Environment - Temperate climate, medium sea level
Game Speed - Epic
AI Aggression - Normal
Barbarians - Raging, and teamed with the Mongols
Permanent Alliances - Not Enabled
City Razing - Enabled

Notes

Please visit the Civ4 SGOTM reference thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=168439) to check out the rules and procedures to ensure that you are adequately prepared for this game.

Teams will compete for up to four awards - the Gold, Silver and Bronze Laurels for the fastest finishes, and the Wooden Spoons for the lowest scoring finisher. The number of awards will depend on the number of teams.

All teams must play the sponsored variant - awards will be given to teams who achieve victories in the least turns.

All saved game files uploaded to the server are parsed through software that extracts and archives data about your save, including reload count for each turn set.

CONQUEST: The Barbarians are not allowed to win by Conquest, so this victory condition is not detected by the game. If you do achieve the destruction of all the other Civs, you will need to inform us of that so that you can be credited with that victory condition manually.

Spoiler information will absolutely NOT be tolerated in this thread.


Please sign up for this game NOW, and learn what it's like to be a C-IV Barbarian.

Первыйнах!

Hoorray, Urda!

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CFR or CRC - depends on whether we can field two Hordes :D
Edit: CRC it is as we do seem to field two Hordes after all. The World Team assembled by Big Pig looks intimidating (BP, LtC, Erkon, Gnejs, jesusin, Murky, JERFit - get yourself klarius, DaviddesJ and CactusPete and you've sucked the transfer market dry :D )

1. Noble I think. :hmm:
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Team Smurkz FTW! :D

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Smurkz!

1. Monarch/Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CRC only regardless of anything.

you are teamed with the Barbarians, and you have to adapt to Barbarian assets and liabilities Do you mean teamed in the manner of a permanent alliance? Although, I suppose there is no barbarian leader to negotiate with! :lol: So I suppose we can't direct the research of the barbs (like one can direct research in a PA). But similar in other respects?

If we make peace with a civ, then are the barbs at peace with that civ as well? There is an odd concept! :crazyeye:

If barbs make good allies (who knows?), then this game might be too easy (assuming you can survive the first few turns being at war) ... unless the opponents are teamed in pairs from the start of the game! :eek: Is that the nasty surprise awaiting us?

dV

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CRC

So I suppose we can't direct the research of the barbs (like one can direct research in a PA).

This isn't a discussion thread, just the sign-up thread. But I don't think barbarians do research.

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. XTeam please! :D

Do you mean teamed in the manner of a permanent alliance? Although, I suppose there is no barbarian leader to negotiate with! :lol: So I suppose we can't direct the research of the barbs (like one can direct research in a PA). But similar in other respects?

If barbs make good allies (who knows?), then this game might be too easy (assuming you can survive the first few turns being at war) ... unless the opponents are teamed in pairs from the start of the game! :eek: Is that the nasty surprise awaiting us?

dV

1. As David suggests, I'd quite like to be able to find the sign-ups in this thread. Was this a sign-up, or just fog of war?

2. Why must there always be nasty surprises?

1.Monarch
2. No
3. Yes
4. CRC

I've opened a pre-game discussion thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=5608345) for those who want to ask questions about the game and discuss it in public before the start.

1. As David suggests, I'd quite like to be able to find the sign-ups in this thread. Was this a sign-up, or just fog of war?

OOPS! :blush: Sorry about the clutter. Feel free to remove it. But this is so unusual, some vehicle for clarification might be useful ... or not, if you are feeling sinister :mwaha:

Monarch
Yes
Yes
Gypsy Kings

dV

Edit: done already: how efficient! :goodjob:

Monarch
YES
YES
A horde of Gypsy Kings!

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. XTeam please! :D

What he said.

1. Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? - Prince / Monarch
2. Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before? - Yes
3. Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? - Yes
4. Do you have a group of players you want to play with? - Geezers, if enough of them can find their vanilla discs.

I'd like to join the Real Ms. Beyond team again.

(Emperor, Yes, Yes, RMB.)

Monarch/Emperor
Yes
Yes
None other than Her Majesty, The Real Ms. Beyond

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Memphis Blues if we can get a team together. If not, anyone who will have me

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Short Straw or One Short Straw

1) I only play GOTMs so whatever they do
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Free agent

1) Monarch
2) yes
3) yes
4) free agent

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Monarch

Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
SGOTM#4

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
100+ LK series games, plus others.

Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
The Real Ms. Beyond

1. Emporer Deity--no stress and very comfortable (losing, of course)
2. yes
3. yes
4. With Murky Waters if we field a team. Otherwise, Team Frederiksberg.

Monarch
Yes
Yes
Gypsy Kings

1 warlord
2 Yes
3 No
4 I'm a newbie, so anyone who'll have me.

I would like to play too

1. monarch
2. yes
3. no
4. any team

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CRC

1. Noble I think. :hmm:

Balony, your much better than that. :)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Team Smurkz (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=182143) (Lurker only)

I barely seem to have enough time for SGOTM4, so I'll just lurk this one. :sad:

1)Emperor
2)Yes
3)No
4)CFR I think.....

Scratch that Unable to comit

1. Emporer
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Chokonuts if enough are going around again.

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) No
4) No, but I'd love to play in the Gypsy Kings team...:)

1 - Monarch
2 - yes
3 - yes
4 - Fifth Element, if we'll team for this one too

1. Monarch
2. yes
3. yes
4. Murky Wasters Waters

Sign me up

1.Monarch
2.Not seriously, but yes
3.Yes
4.Throw me anywhere

Teaming up with barbarians:eek: , big variant wonder how it will affect the game?

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?





1. Immortal
2. Yes, most of them
3. Yes, the previous one
4. Murky Waters

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) No. -- Team fell out from under me SWOTM

1. Emperor
2. yes
3. no
4. No, any team EDITED: I'd be glad to play in the Murky Waters team

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Noble at highest (I haven't played much recently)
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before? No
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? No
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Not really.

1. Immortal
2. No
3. No
4. No, Edited :now in Gypsy King team

This game sounds intresting.

1. Monarch
2. No
3. No
4. No

Alright, this will be my first time in a succession game. *Crosses Fingers*

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Fifth Element

1) Immortal
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Murky Waters

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Fifth Element

1. emp/immortal
2. yes
3. yes
4. One short straw

1. Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?

Monarch

2. Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?

Yes

3. Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?

No

4. Do you have a group of players you want to play with?

Ones who are better than me... so I can learn.

monarch
yes
yes
CFR

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Monarch
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before? I've played a couple of turns in a couple of GOTM's, never completed, never submitted
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? One succession game, 0 SGOTMs
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Nothing specific yet

1) Emperor
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Murky Waters

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?

1. Noble:blush:
2. NO:blush:
3. NO:blush:
4. NO:blush:

1. Prince/Monarch
2. No
3. Yes
4. CRC

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Chokonuts

1) Noble
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Chokonuts

1) Noble
2) No
3) No
4) Non in particular

1. Monarch
2. No
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings

1) Prince, or Monarch now & again.
2) No.
3) No.
4) As Joseph might say, "Any team will doo.."

Monarch
No
Yes
The Real Ms. Beyond

1) Relative newbie to CIV - have won 2 games on monarch, but would describe myself as prince level
2) Only 1
3) plenty of civ3 SGs but no CIV
4) Any team that will accept a rookie who will need a lot of educating

1. monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. EDIT: Trash Team.

1)prince, i'll try monarch
2)no
3)no
4)no, its gotta be a mac team

kida depressing:)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters (Lurker, no Vanilla CD, :p)

1. Monarch
2. unsubmitted games, yes
3. NO! = /
4. Free-est agent

1. Immortal.
2. Yes, but I usually don't have time to finish the GOTMs.
3. Yes.
4. No, Peanut seems to have lost critical mass. Would like to play with a team that is happy with lots of discussion.

Big Pig, get 'im!

Big Pig, get 'im!
I try to leave the recruitment of new players to our dedicated team of Murky Waters talent scouts.
Ideally we are looking for a couple of Mongolian (or Barbarian) players to give some local inside knowledge after CFR's emphatic victories in the Russian SGOTM3 ( - although judging from the performance so far of our two Viking imports for SGOTM4, this may be a less than ideal tactic :) )

BP - I love you too ;)

Let's try and not turn this into a Murky Waters Love Fest!

1. Monarch
2. No
3. No
4. Not Really

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Chokonuts

no chance anyof those teams are on mac is there


i know no

1. emperor
2. yes
3. yes
4. no

1. emperor
2. yes
3. yes
4. no

Emmm... Big Pi-i-ig...

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CFR

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CFR

1. Immortal.
2. Yes, but I usually don't have time to finish the GOTMs.
3. Yes.
4. No, Peanut seems to have lost critical mass. Would like to play with a team that is happy with lots of discussion.
Hey, since one of us (Fifth element) can't participate, we need another member. I hope my teammates will have nothing to complain if i ask you to join us. We're proud wooden spooners of SG3, we can only improve, and i'm sure you can help on this.

1) Prince/Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Chokonuts

1) settler
2) no
3) yes
4) crc

1) settler
i got a 3 cents coin to sell... interested?

i got a 3 cents coin to sell... interested?
1.Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?

I agree with Gosha... Settler is very comfortable level... :)

1) Emperor
2) Yes
3) No
4) Throw me in anywhere.

1.Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?

I agree with Gosha... Settler is very comfortable level... :)If you put it in this way... :crazyeye:
Probably Alan wants to change the first question in:
Which is the highest level....

Hair-splitters!

i got a 3 cents coin to sell... interested?

I suggest you check out some HoF tourny results, like Major 6 or 8 or the recently finished 12th, and pick at Gosha no more.

Count me in for Fifth Element. I've played with that ridiculous group in the first 4 games and might as well make another hash of it with them again. We'd like to know, however, if there is any special award for consecutive wooden spoons :)

We'd like to know, however, if there is any special award for consecutive wooden spoons :)
Nope! Just another wooden spoon :)

I suggest you check out some HoF tourny results, like Major 6 or 8 or the recently finished 12th, and pick at Gosha no more.That's what i meant!!!
I know him as one of the best players around, so his "settler" sounded as a joke that i liked to emphasize.

Nope! Just another wooden spoon :)

How prestigious! Count me in for Fifth Element - we need another one anyway, the previous one broke while we were :spank: Civicide for offending the RNGod.

That's what i meant!!!
I know him as one of the best players around, so his "settler" sounded as a joke that i liked to emphasize.

I'm sorry for my insufficient understanding of English humour then. :blush: Meant no offence.

I'm sorry for my insufficient understanding of English humour then. :blush: Meant no offence.Italian humour, please!!!
no problem, ciao.

1. Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CFR

Big Pig, get 'im!

Emmm... Big Pi-i-ig...Be careful what you wish for, Schmuck. ;)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. No
4. Needs to be a Mac team.

Sign me up with my old kronies - the Ms. Beyond Crowd.

Immortal, yes, yes, CFR

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. No
4. Needs to be a Mac team. That's two!

@AlanH: I think you now have a sacred duty to armtwist enough toshophiles into playing to field a Mac team. :D

@Balbes: Phew! All is right with the world now! ;)

@LC: re post 93 ... getting lathered again, Lowther? :mischief:

dV

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Chokonuts

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. The Real Ms. Beyond

1) monarch / emperor
2) yes
3) yes
4) Geezers

Well, considering several invitations (thanks to all who invited me), I decided to go with team
Murky Waters

1. Monarch Emperor
2. yes
3. yes
4. open

I've changed my team affiliation to Gypsy Kings, Alan.
It didn't sound at the time like Geezers would get enough members back, so I accepted a chance to join Gypsy Kings instead

I'm sure we can replace Thrallia with someone younger and better! :p

Considering numerous invitations (all from Murky Waters) I have decided to play with XTeam.

1. Emperor
2. yes
3. yes
4. XTeam

@ Frederiksberg, I new there was integrity to be found here if someone was willing to search for it!!!

It would be more interesting for all concerned if the talent were distributed broadly.

Immortal
Yes
Yes
XTeam

It would be more interesting for all concerned if the talent were distributed broadly and threads in English...but instead we seem to have something more true to life...a cold-heartedly survival-of-the-fittest bloodfest... :D

I received a few invitations (thanks to all) and have decided to join Gypsy Kings.

Monarch
yes
yes
Trash (if enough people sign up).

Considering numerous invitations (all from Murky Waters) I have decided to play with XTeam.

1. Emperor
2. yes
3. yes
4. XTeam

ROFL :lol:

I've accepted an invitation to Geezers

:salute:

Yeesh... I keep telling myself I don't have time for SGOTM, you folks keep coming up with variants that suck me in. I'll play as an active team member this time (not a lurker).

Emperor (except for variants when teaming with barbs, in which case, who knows?)

Yes

Yes

Geezers, unless they vote me off the island.

OK I would be interested in trying this. My responses to the questions are in red:


Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Prince
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before? No
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? Yes
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Fifth Element

Monarch
No
Yes
Trash (if enough people sign up).

Considering numerous invitations (all from Murky Waters)....
Perhaps if you had read your PMs more closely, you would have realised exactly what it was that MW were 'inviting' you to go and do.... :p

I think it's official. I'm signing up with XTeam. So my signup in this thread (post #19) should be modified to that effect.

I think it's official. I'm signing up with XTeam. So my signup in this thread (post #19) should be modified to that effect. Which, of course, you can do ;)

Seems fitting that you are back teamed up with Frederiksberg ... a little bit of Memphis Blues lives on in X team now! :goodjob:

dV

Monarch-Emperor
Yes
Yes
Trash Team

Alan,

Please note that 'RL' is really starting to get in the way of appeasing my Civ addiction. Please ensure that the Trash Team is appropriately sized, as I may need to skip some rounds.

Furthermore, I am aware that Cabert has indicated a willingness to participate, but he will be unable to access CivFanatics until mid-June. His responses to the sign-up questions would be identical to my own. I'm not sure if I can reserve a spot for him or not.

Furthermore, I am aware that Cabert has indicated a willingness to participate, but he will be unable to access CivFanatics until mid-June.

That is to say, 11 1/2 months from now? I think the event will be over by then.

:hammer2: I seemingly haven't acquired Calendar yet. :(

Cabert may just return earlier than at first anticipated - even a mid-July appearance is now looking likely! ;)

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? - can win pretty consistently on empreror

Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before? - yep, played a few of them

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? - no, first time

Do you have a group of players you want to play with? - anyone who will have me

Please ensure that the Trash Team is appropriately sized, as I may need to skip some rounds.

My objective is to staff teams up to at least six active players - more if there are new players whose participation is an unknown. That normally copes with reasonable RL-induced skips. If you think your skip level is likely to be *unreasonable* then please ensure that the rest of your team is happy to cope with it and fill in for you.

Cabert may just return earlier than at first anticipated - even a mid-July appearance is now looking likely! ;)

Since the game is not scheduled to start until 19th July, I can't see how that is going to impact the Trash Team's progress significantly.

1. Emperor
2. No
3 Yes
4. Fistful of Dynamite but anyone if the old team take a break

Ralph

I'll like to join again to this game and to my team - Murky Waters !! :)

Regards

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Noble
Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Started but never submitted
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Yes
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
Geezers please

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters (lurk)

1. Emperor/Monarch (Dont play much now)
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Fistful of Dynamite same as Ralph :)

1) Emperor
2) Yes
3) No
4) None. Anyone still looking for additional players?

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Fistful of Dynomite but primarily in a Lurking Capacity (too time-crunched to do all those turnsets and reports, sadly :( )

1) Typical difficulty - Mon/Emp
2)GOTM - no
3) SG experience - yes.
4) Team - Lurking on the RealMs Beyond squad.

1. Monarch
2. no
3. yes
4. Real Ms beyond (lurker)

sorry, posted in the wrong thread... if some admin wish, this can be deleted.

1. Monarch
2. No.
3. Yes, not SGOTM
4. Real Ms. Beyond, Lurker.

as a noob to sgotm's how long before a game are teams announced? I guess there is a set register by date?

I'll try to post some draft team lists on Thursday. There's no deadline for sign-ups. I'll try to fit people in whenever they show up. The probabllity of success just tends to drop as we get to the start date and beyond, and once team lists are drafted the options for change also start to narrow.

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. One Short Straw

1. Emperor (comfort-more or less. Win...well, maybe.)
2. No
3. No
4. Real Ms. Beyond (Lurker)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. XTeam please! :D


What he said. :D

That said, I'll need to be skipped the first few days. Gotta study and earn those :science:
;)

i got a 3 cents coin to sell... interested?

The truth is that I do not know more comfortable level for plaing than settler :lol: though I can play any other levels. Arrivederci Signore!

1. Monarch/Emperor
2. Yes
3. No
4. CRC

1. Emperor
2. No
3. Yes
4. None

Signing - up

1. Immortal
2. yes
3. yes
4. As my avatar suggests - I am back to join the Smurkz - Hehe!

@MA: :goodjob: Great to have you back!

1 Noble
1 No
3 No
4 No

By my reckoning we have 101 sign-ups so far, not including "lurkers", which is not too dusty. Now we just need to get you all lined up in neat teams. Here are the team assignments you requested:

Probably viable teams (10):

9 players: Fifth Element, Gypsy Kings
8 players: CRC, Murky Waters
6 players: CFR, Chokonuts, Smurkz, The Real MS. Beyond, Trash Team, XTeam

Teams needing more players, or mergers (4):

5 players: Geezers
4 players: One Short Straw, Mac Team
2 players: Fistful of Dynamite

Unassigned players:

Windows players: 17

There are enough unassigned players to fill the incomplete teams and create up to 14 full Windows teams. The Mac team will need to recruit at least three more Mac players to be viable.

[UPDATE] I have added the unassigned players to teams, and the new team list is in this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5709621&postcount=174).

Time to give the vanilla disc a dusting.

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Team Trash(can)

No peanuts this time?

No peanuts this time? Apparently not ... the only two signed up members from SGOTM 04 are signed up with Gypsy Kings and Murky Waters.

I see that in an effort to beat the Russians by emulation, BLubmuz has changed his avatar to emulate Lexad! :lol:

dV

Monarch
yes
yes
gypy kings if they have me again

I've moved the discussion concerning the composition of teams to the pre-game discussion thread, as it is not directly related to the sign-up thread, and I didn't want to miss late sign-ups amongst your earnest and heated debate :p.

I'd like to join the Fifth Element, my sign-up post is somewhere in this thread too.

5th element contacted me too. I'll try not to spare their team to death.

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Noble/Monarch

Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Only the latest one

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
No

Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
No

1. Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Monarch (just about)
2. Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Yes. I was almost ever-present between WOTM04 - WOTM08 and GOTM14 - GOTM18. Then I had to unavoidably absent myself.
3. Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Nope.
4. Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
I have been negotiating to become a Geezer (and they haven't told me to get lost yet. )

4. Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
I have been negotiating to become a Geezer (and they haven't told me to get lost yet. ) Keep holding out for that signing bonus! :D

Does this mean that Geezers will be replacing the Youngest Geezer (Thrallia) with ... the ... Oldest Geezer? ;)

dV

Keep holding out for that signing bonus! :D

Does this mean that Geezers will be replacing the Youngest Geezer (Thrallia) with ... the ... Oldest Geezer? ;)

dV

Somebody got it. :eek: You get the recognition bonus.

Trust dV to bring the signal:noise ratio back down :p

1) Monarch
2) yes
3) yes, a practice one.
4) Mac team

Trust dV to bring the signal:noise ratio back down :p Hey, that's why you pay me the big bucks! ;) :lol:

(you can remove this after you've had your chuckle!)

dV

Alan,

Add me to the Xteam as a lurker. I'm unsure if I'll have enough time to play.

Hey, that's why you pay me the big bucks! ;) :lol:

(you can remove this after you've had your chuckle!)

dV

so am I getting a piece of that money you get from Alan, dV? ;)

I have been approached by the Fifth Element for assistance in their quest to achieve another wooden spoon. :dubious: Please add me to their team.

I have talked to Niklas and will join Team Smurkz.

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Emperor (good starting position), Monarch (Bad starting position)

Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before?
Yes

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
No

Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
No, put me into a team please

Alan,

Sorry,I will have to pass on this one. Maybe next time.

Wouldn't mind joining Smurkz if they want me on the team.

Wouldn't mind joining Smurkz if they want me on the team.

Sure, you're welcome to join us!

Count me in for the Smurkz team, as a player if they do not mind to skip me until mid-august, or as a lurker if not. I'd love to see what this game will be like....

@Wotan: Time to join the enemy eh? ;) You're most welcome. :)

@unkle: Of course we want you along! We'll skip you in the start, no worries. :)

@Niklas:
cool. I look forward to it already :)

Hope I'm not too late.

I would like to join team One Short Straw(again).

TDK

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Noble

Have you played any Civ4 GOTM games before? Yes, but never submitted

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? No.

Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Mac team, if possible.

The Wheel of Fortune has turned, and below are the 15 proposed team lists for this game.

Note that there are two self-selected teams with nine active players - Fifth Element and Gypsy Kings. In my view this is a high number, with a danger of players losing focus in between turn sets. If anyone wants to jump ship from those teams, or if I have trodden on any toes when allocating players, or if you want any team name changes, please PM me asap with your requests for change.

The Mac team is still below critical mass at four players. They will require some special mod development to deal with the barb requirements for this game. I am doing this work, in the hope that they can find a couple more players.

I shall open the team threads in 24 hours, giving a little time for any last minute changes you want to make before you all get committed to private team discussions.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/submit/team_list/50005.php

If Smurkz still wants me, maybe I should switch to them instead, to balance out the teams a little better. I agree that 9 seems like a lot, while Smurkz is a bit short.

@DaviddesJ: No objections here. :)

@DaviddesJ: No objections here. :)

I agree! Welcome to Smurkz!

Done. DaviddesJ gets a free transfer to Smurkz. (I.e. I saw no transfer fee change hands :rolleyes: )

I believe unkle is withdrawing from Smurkz (per their SGOTM 04 thread). [EDIT: I see he's joining but will skip the early turns, no worries.]

I will only take notice of sign-ups or resignations posted here. You can comment on your SGOTM 5 availability in other threads or forums until your finger nails bleed, and I will ignore you :D

[UPDATE] And no sooner did I say that than I've accepted a sign-up in the Mac forum from willpax for the Mac team. Needs must when the devil drives, I guess. :rolleyes: Sooooo, now they are five, and it looks like I'll have to get my Python hat on to fix them up with a barb-friendly version of the Mac HoF Mod!

Sorry, Alanh. Consider this my official mac team sign up, accepting whatever conditions are necessary to get this team off the ground.

Thanks for bending the rules. I'll try not to force you any more.

NP, willpax :)

I have opened the sticky Maintenance thread, and the Team threads for this game. We aim to get you started on Wdnesday, 25 July, and I am setting a target completion date of end of October to help you to plan your rate of play.

1) emperor
2) yes
3) no
4) CFR

1. Noble
2. Yes
3. No
4. No

@failedreality: I'll add you to the "New Team", unless one of the other teams wants to bid for your services.

1. Noble
2. No
3. Yes
4. New Team w/failedreality if possible

My objective is to staff teams up to at least six active players - more if there are new players whose participation is an unknown. That normally copes with reasonable RL-induced skips. If you think your skip level is likely to be *unreasonable* then please ensure that the rest of your team is happy to cope with it and fill in for you.



Since the game is not scheduled to start until 19th July, I can't see how that is going to impact the Trash Team's progress significantly.

It won't. I'm back, willing to play with my buddies in the trash team for this totally crazy variant.
I'm a bit rusty and monarch seems hard enough for me these days...

Hi Alan

Monarch
yes
no
Lurker with the Geezers. I had the ok from The Hawk.

Doh, been away on holiday, and forgot to sign up before I left.
Is it too late to rejoin One Short Straw?

erm, Monarch
Yes,
Yes,
Already read the One Short Straw thread, so I guess I join them, or go back to playing GOTMs for a bit.

I've added you to One Short Straw.

Hi,

I want to play SGOTM. Where do I need to sign-up?

The current game is now well under way. If any of the existing teams want an extra player, please raise your hands?

Hi Teams!!!

Please let me in, I will be a good partner ;)

I want to play this SGOTM. :cry: I usually don't have free time, but these days, I got some, so wanna enjoy this time. :sad:

Please make sure you don't read the team threads in case you are selected for an opponent team, and please read the competition rules in the Reference Thread while you are waiting ...

Sure Alan, I will do it.

Thanks for all this. I will try my best to follow all the rules set by the moderators.

Hi lordofcivs, we are only 6 and could use another.

I'll check in the team if they agree and let you know, asap.

I gave it 24 hours. There were no objections.

lordofcivs, you are welcome to join trash team!

I gave it 24 hours. There were no objections.

lordofcivs, you are welcome to join trash team!

I've added lordofcivs to the Trash Team player list.

1) Monarch.
2) Yes (Once).
3) No.
4) Yes. (Trash Team).

@lordofcivs: You were added to Trash Team 18 days ago! What happened?

@lordofcivs: You were added to Trash Team 18 days ago! What happened? I am guessing that he is just posting his answers to the questions for the record.

dV

@lordofcivs: You were added to Trash Team 18 days ago! What happened?

Yeah, I joined Trash Team. But forgot to gave you the required information about me. So posting right now. Sorry for that.

I am guessing that he is just posting his answers to the questions for the record.

dV

Thanks da_vinci. You are right.