Of all the new leaders in BtS, there must be one you're reallying looking forward to KO'ing...

But which one...?

I'm looking forward to punishing de Gaulle for taking a third French spot instead of standing aside for another leader of a one leader civ...
(And for being French, but that's a different subject...)

(Nothing personal against him, he just took up an extra spot another leader could have had in BtS)

Im not sure what a Yaqob is, if its anything as strange as a Yak I dont want it leading my country.

I say Suryavarman II cause his photo creeps me out, otherwise it would be Gilgamesh because if he's anything like Mansa Musa I'm gonna die...

EDIT: He's gonna die...:lol:
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Boudica, because the Celts are not significant enough to have two leaders. If they wanted to fulfill their Affirmative Action quota, they could've added Wu for China.

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Why, thank you dutchking...Always feels good to be noticed...:D

Boudicca. I always love beating up the Celts when I play as Rome. She will be a worthy opponent for my praets!

Why, thank you dutchking...Always feels good to be noticed...:D

Anytime man, I love you...
:joke:

Pacal's leaderhead expression is just asking to be wacked.

Im not sure what a Yaqob is, if its anything as strange as a Yak I dont want it leading my country.

Yacob looks like a nice, friendly fellow. I think I'll ally with him to wipe out that Mayan lunatic.

Suryavarman II, he is SO SCARY... he looks like an evil lizard.

Pacal... he looks like a whiney, little brat.

Pacal... he looks like a whiney, little brat.

He reminds me of a Chipmunk. As long as he isn't like Monty, I'm fine with him. I'd like to get Hammaurabi, he doesn't look half as fly as he did a civ ago.

Boudica ... I will demolish her doggy style , alright...

:) I second that

I don't dislike any of them yet.

I'm pretty sure some can end up with a rather nasty AI. My personal candidates are Boudica (a cross between Shaka and Isabela) and Pacal (Monty MK2).

Death to "General" De Gaulle.

Sitting Bull, for some reason I just want to kill him. :assimilate:

voted for William of Orange - No particular reason, I love the Dutch (really) but I had this association with football - and when it comes to football you know how Germans and Dutchs are... ;)

voted for William of Orange - No particular reason, I love the Dutch (really) but I had this association with football - and when it comes to football you know how Germans and Dutchs are... ;)That's why i voted for Charlemange

Europe is over-represent with both leaders and civs .
Charlemagne should have been added next time .If I can vote two , De gaulle is next because Spain and Japn are still one-leadered , The 3rd leaders should be for the next expansion pack or civ5

Sitting Bull must die! Stupid Indians with their protective super-archers. De Gaulle comes close though.

This poll reminds me of the "Scorpio" simpsons episode.

Scorpio: hey homer, what's your least favorite country, Italy or France?
Homer:France
Scorpio:Nobody ever says Italy...
*launches nuclear missile at France

Yeah, I voted for de Gaulle.

This poll reminds me of the "Scorpio" simpsons episode.

Scorpio: hey homer, what's your least favorite country, Italy or France?
Homer:France
Scorpio:Nobody ever says Italy...
*launches nuclear missile at France

Yeah, I voted for de Gaulle.

Although I voted de Gaulle as well, I would have said Italy if I were Homer. ;)

Pericles' gonna die. I can just smell the Tech Racing aroma from him!! :cool:

Poland in the WW2 Scenario, Then Hitler, Then the world mwuhahahahaha
Ill be Russia of course :)

I'll ax-- I mean, vulture-rush Boudicca. Hehehe...Knowing the AI, it'll probably try building spears to counter...

UPDATE:

De Gaulle has taken the lead with 12...
Boudica, Charlemagne, and Lincoln are tied for second with 7...
Pacal and Suryavarman II are tied for third with 6...
And Sitting Bull coming in with 5 at fourth...



Didn't think Lincoln would be placed so high...Must be some resentment for taking a third spot...

That or a lot of resentful southerners...

UPDATE:

De Gaulle has taken the lead with 12...
Boudica, Charlemagne, and Lincoln are tied for second with 7...
Pacal and Suryavarman II are tied for third with 6...
And Sitting Bull coming in with 5 at fourth...



Didn't think Lincoln would be placed so high...Must be some resentment for taking a third spot...

That or a lot of resentful southerners...

I really don't get this, I'm happy with all of the new leaders...since you guys are on pc's you can mod the game to make whatever leaders you want...Abraham Lincoln was a good man...so was Charles De Gaulle...:confused:

Abraham Lincoln was a good man...so was Charles De Gaulle...

Oh, I agree...De Gaulle was a great leader for France, but I also felt he was a unneeded addition to BtS...

I don't mind Lincoln being in because I thought he deserved Roosevelt's spot in Civ IV...

Oh, I agree...De Gaulle was a great leader for France, but I also felt he was a unneeded addition to BtS...

I don't mind Lincoln being in because I thought he deserved Roosevelt's spot in Civ IV...

I'd say that De Gaulle is actually a pretty cool addition, some people don't...
About Lincoln: I'd say if America only had two leaders I'd make it Roosevelt and Lincoln. Just 'cause Washington was first doesn't mean he's best. Roosevelt and Lincoln had MUCH bigger issues of dealing with while in office. Great Depression, Civil War, WWII. I'm not saying Washington wasn't important, but I like having all three of them honestly...:goodjob:

...but I like having all three of them honestly...:goodjob:

I agree...In the end, having Lincoln now is better than not having him at all...
Better late then never...

i voted De Gaulle. :D

I checked out the leaderhead animations at the official site just to answer this poll. And my conclusion: De Gaulle needs a good slapping! Gilgamesh looks pretty cool though.

I agree...In the end, having Lincoln now is better than not having him at all...
Better late then never...

Yeah, totally, he was a very important figure in American history...

And my conclusion: De Gaulle needs a good slapping!

from Catherine, may i add...

Hammurabi (personal distaste for him in Civ III)

I wanna kill Justinian, he's such a ß∂∑ß∆¬∑¢¢¢™¢¢¢£££
Go to Civs>Justinian (http://www.2kgames.com/civ4/beyondthesword/)

I wanna kill Justinian, he's such a ß∂∑ß∆¬∑¢¢¢™¢¢¢£££
Go to Civs>Justinian (http://www.2kgames.com/civ4/beyondthesword/)

WHOA! I don't know whether to throw up or poke out my eyes...
Man he needs some sun baaaaad...

Lincoln. He doesn't deserve to be in the game.

You must be a southerner.

I voted for De Gaulle. He's not a bad choice for a leader, but France doesn't need three. I'd rather have seen another Japanese, Spanish, or Chinese leader. Hell, if any civ deserves three leaders, it's China.

Lincoln. He doesn't deserve to be in the game.

Are you kidding me??!!! As a decendant of a Civil War Veteran (for the Union) I'm insulted! Jeeze...:eek:

Yes but De Gaulle, Boudica, and Lincoln had no business in the game instead of Spain, Japan and Arabia.

Everyone will have there own opinions and you have to respect that.

Yes but De Gaulle, Boudica, and Lincoln had no business in the game instead of Spain, Japan and Arabia.

Everyone will have there own opinions and you have to respect that.

I do respect your opinion, but I don't understand it. So what if one civ has more leaders then another, it just means they were either more "important" than the other civ or they had many great leaders.

I do respect your opinion, but I don't understand it. So what if one civ has more leaders then another, it just means they were either more "important" than the other civ or they had many great leaders.

The Celts were neither more important then Spain, Arabia, and Japan, or had more great leaders...

^ Exactly.

The Celts were neither more important then Spain, Arabia, and Japan, or had more great leaders...

I have to agree there...
Celts were important enough to deserve one leader...But two is over kill...

I never said the Celts were more "important" than either of those civs, but the Celts fall into the other category I said and Firaxis had the obligation to add Boudica. I think they felt like they made a mistake with Brennus.
But that's not what I was talking about. You said "Lincoln doesn't deserve to be in the game." And I said I felt insulted. Nothing else.

I never said the Celts were more "important" than either of those civs, but the Celts fall into the other category I said and Firaxis had the obligation to add Boudica. I think they felt like they made a mistake with Brennus.
But that's not what I was talking about. You said "Lincoln doesn't deserve to be in the game." And I said I felt insulted. Nothing else.

True...Brennus should have come after Boudica, or not at all...

Since Andrew Jackson is not in the game I will have to demolish Lincoln in his stead. As in playing as the Native Americans and resisting Jacksons Indian Removal Act. I can't wait to kick those murdering imperialists right off this continent. All in fun of course ;~)

True...Brennus should have come after Boudica, or not at all...

I don't think he should've been in at all. And if the Celts absolutely needed a new leader I'd say it should be Vercingtorix...:king: But otherwise I think "Brennus is a useless waste of space as far as I am concerned" :lol: (reference to diplomacy)...

In reading the bio of Justinian the I (at the official website) it turns out Justinian was a coward: he ran and hid leaving his wife Theodora, and his top general Belisarius, behind to stem a riot and potential coup. Cowardice like that deserves a thorough demolishing!

In reading the bio of Justinian the I (at the official website) it turns out Justinian was a coward: he ran and hid leaving his wife Theodora, and his top general Belisarius, behind to stem a riot and potential coup. Cowardice like that deserves a thorough demolishing!

They should've put Theodora in instead, another female leader and one less coward...:goodjob:

In reading the bio of Justinian the I (at the official website) it turns out Justinian was a coward: he ran and hid leaving his wife Theodora, and his top general Belisarius, behind to stem a riot and potential coup. Cowardice like that deserves a thorough demolishing!

Theodora was a... um... you know... ancient equivilent of a callgirl, but she was (supposedlY) a pretty good administrator, you know... i think Firaxis should've put her in, even if she wasn't the actual leader. more fun the Justinian. :D

Theodora was a... um... you know... ancient equivilent of a callgirl, but she was (supposedlY) a pretty good administrator, you know... i think Firaxis should've put her in, even if she wasn't the actual leader. more fun the Justinian. :D

And hopefully hotter ;)

oh wait... i said she was a:

pretty good administrator

:groucho:


i dunno... maybe i'll beat up the Byzantines and give them a ton of units in their last city, then we can have an epic seige like the real one at Constantinople in 1453.

...But otherwise I think "Brennus is a useless waste of space as far as I am concerned" :lol: (reference to diplomacy)...

Haha...Nice...

Yes but De Gaulle, Boudica, and Lincoln had no business in the game instead of Spain, Japan and Arabia.

Everyone will have there own opinions and you have to respect that.

QFT

But atleast we got Darius and Pericles instead of Xerxes and Leonidas ;)

QFT

But atleast we got Darius and Pericles instead of Xerxes and Leonidas ;)

well atleast your agreeing with me here. In the other threads we're having an all out war :lol:

Pacal... he looks like a whiney, little brat.

lol He does:lol:

UPDATE:

De Gaulle has taken the lead with 12...
Boudica, Charlemagne, and Lincoln are tied for second with 7...
Pacal and Suryavarman II are tied for third with 6...
And Sitting Bull coming in with 5 at fourth...



Didn't think Lincoln would be placed so high...Must be some resentment for taking a third spot...

That or a lot of resentful southerners...

And I'd say de Gaulle is in the lead simply because of some resentful Britons and Americans who harbour a grudge agaisnt the *historical* de Gaulle (not the leader of that name in this game) because he refused to run errands for them. As a matter of fact, he did many good things for his country, and if France really needed a third leader, I think he was a good choice.

I voted for Boudica, because I am sure she'll be lots of trouble if she turns out to be your next-door neighbour.

I don't think he should've been in at all. And if the Celts absolutely needed a new leader I'd say it should be Vercingtorix...:king: But otherwise I think "Brennus is a useless waste of space as far as I am concerned" :lol: (reference to diplomacy)...

True. Vercingetorix would have been a much better choice than Brennus. As for Boudica, I think she was just included as eye candy.

De Gaulle was a good leader, and if he doesn't deserve to be there by virtue of being a 3rd leader, neither does Lincoln, Churchill or Stalin. You guys are just being dumb.

Where is the hypothetical second Japanese leader option? I would vote for that just to annoy the historically challenged fanboys.

The polish one.

Lincoln must die!!!

I don't like the fact that any civ has three leaders, but when the Americans get a third, when China, Rome and India would be much more deserving, and more importantly, there are still several civs that have just one leader.

De Gualle comes a close second. That makes two leader spots wasted on civs that already have two leaders.

Lincoln must die!!!
but when the Americans get a third


The weird thing is that America do have a leader who deserves to be in the CIVs series, however in his place there are people with only local success and influence, but are more popular in the current age(such as Washington and Roosevelt)

P.S.Lincoln must die!!!

De Gaulle was a good leader, and if he doesn't deserve to be there by virtue of being a 3rd leader, neither does Lincoln, Churchill or Stalin. You guys are just being dumb.

Thank you! I'm not dumb...but Lincoln, Churchill, Stalin, and De Gaulle all "deserve" to be "in". :goodjob:

I don't like the fact that any civ has three leaders, but when the Americans get a third, when China, Rome and India would be much more deserving, and more importantly, there are still several civs that have just one leader.


:clap: there we go!

Europe is over-represent with both leaders and civs .
Charlemagne should have been added next time .If I can vote two , De gaulle is next because Spain and Japn are still one-leadered , The 3rd leaders should be for the next expansion pack or civ5


Can't agree more:P

Thank god not the WHOLE board is Euro/America-centric!

Maybe now Firaxis will figure that out and start representing Asia and Africa more? Heck, we've already got the Khmer and Ethiopia (more than what you could say about Civ III).