From the BtS Website: http://www.2kgames.com/civ4/beyondthesword/

Official Scenarios

Afterworld
Broken Star
Charlemagne
Civ Defence
Crossroads of the World
Final Frontier
Gods of Old
Next War

Fan Scenarios

FfH: Age of Ice
Rhye's and Fall
WWII: Road to War

Note the absence of Chaos and Superrobo and the addition of Civ Defense. This is the finalized list of scenarios for BtS.

Some notes:

-Civ Defense apparently begins with you building a city or two using Advance Starts and then defending against non-stop waves of attackers (from wild animals onward). Surviving a wave gets you money to buy techs and units.

-The Charlemagne scenario description says something about earning the favor of His Holiness. More than likely will use the AP mechanics.

-Crossroads will use the Corporation feature in the form of trade guilds.

-Next War can be played in two ways: 1) As a straight up scenario 2) Or as an epic game (standard Civ game) with the futuristic units added to the tech tree. The only downside is the description says the Next War epic game is only limited to 8 players. I can see a mod easily changing that.

-Gods of Old is a epic game with the standard religions replaced ancient Mesopotamian gods. Unlike the standard religions each god will have their own special ability. If you please your god apparently they will rain disasters upon your opponent.

Thanks for the post.

I was hoping for a fully fledge Macross/Invid anime scenario in SuperRobo, but if it weren't that, then I'm glad they cut out a half-baked scenario. Same for Chaos, which probably wasn't so much a game but a crapshoot.

Next war as Epic sounds cool. Now we can play the sci-fi stuff out of the box without downloading a mod. Good thinking, Firaxis.

Gods of old sounds interesting too. Sort of like Populous or Black n White.

I was disappointed to see elephants in the Broken Star screenshot. Elephants in Russia?

Surely they could replace them with another happy resouce for balance.

Or is it played out on random maps?

I believe it is Random Maps.

Aw, I was looking forward to constructing my giant robot.

I too was also looking foward to Superrobo. It wasn't the one I was most interested in but it still sounded good.

Anyway that is one less scifi scenario for the anti-scifi people to complain about.

Are we sure the list on that web-page is exhaustive? It does not seem likely to me that Firaxis would promote a scenario and then withdraw it from release.

Civ Defence
This is the first time I know the scenario.
It look like a brain-less little game, and I like it. :)

Gods of Old
This is a random map mod which using old gods to avoid the controversy to gives each religions different advantages!
Maybe I'll play this first rather than standard game.

WWII: Road to War
I didn't know this is a fan mod.
Well, look like my slow computer can't afford this. :lol:

I was looking forward to Superrobo and Chaos, but both were cut out.:(
I didn't like Civ Defense's concept, probably I won't play it. I was expecting Gods of Old to be one of the worst scenarios in BTS, guess I was wrong.

Civ Defence
WWII: Road to War
I didn't know this is a fan mod.
Well, look like my slow computer can't afford this. :lol:

I believe Dale and his friends made it.
Im glad the WWII scenario is as it is instead of just an axis allies thing like desert war was.

Note that they have said the game will include 12 scenarios, yet they only list 11. Either they aren't listing them all, or Next War is being counted as two.

WWII: Road to War
I didn't know this is a fan mod.
Well, look like my slow computer can't afford this. :lol:

You should be okay. If you can play modern era standard size maps fine, then RtW will run fine. :)

Note that they have said the game will include 12 scenarios, yet they only list 11. Either they aren't listing them all, or Next War is being counted as two.


the WWII one is supposedly 3 scenarios

Are we sure the list on that web-page is exhaustive? It does not seem likely to me that Firaxis would promote a scenario and then withdraw it from release.

I've worked in the games industry for almost 9 years, and it has happened a lot that what is shown on a promotional website doesn't always reflect what will be in the released product. All too often the text and content of a pre-release promo website is approved well in advance of the game assets being finalised. I'd personally place more emphasis on what the reviewers and Firaxis itself is telling us are in there, rather than any promotional website run by the publishers. However, of course, we shall see what time reveals... ;)

I've worked in the games industry for almost 9 years, and it has happened a lot that what is shown on a promotional website doesn't always reflect what will be in the released product. All too often the text and content of a pre-release promo website is approved well in advance of the game assets being finalised. I'd personally place more emphasis on what the reviewers and Firaxis itself is telling us are in there, rather than any promotional website run by the publishers. However, of course, we shall see what time reveals...

Oh.

I was really looking forward to that giant robot. :(

And I think the Chaos mod would have been fun also. Maybe they had so few events that it would have been repetitive.

Clarification, the official site is correct on the list of scenarios. Certain scenarios have been dropped and Civ Defense was added.

Clarification, the official site is correct on the list of scenarios. Certain scenarios have been dropped and Civ Defense was added.

Thanks for the info. I updated the OP a little bit.

One thought, Chaos could have survived as a game option (like "Raging Barbarians" "Chaotic Events")

I really like the ideas behind Next War-Epic and Gods of Old with them basically being Civ with a twist. Reminds me of a Native American scenario that came with one of the Civ II expansions that redid all of the ancient era units but kept the modern ones the same.

They both sound more appealing than a total conversation scenario like Afterworlds (although I can see myself ending up liking that one as well).

I still would love to know WHICH include random maps. My general rule of thumb being mods are much more likely to use random maps then scenarios so we can at least count on these two as random mappers:

Gods of Old
Next War

Could there be more? I'd assume Final Frontier, with its multiple victory types might be and would LOVE IT if Afterworld were (but something tells me to be this radically different and with a clever backstory, its most likely a very fixed map).

The Civ Defense scenario sounds really boring... Could they have put a little thought or originality into it, please?

The Civ Defense scenario sounds really boring... Could they have put a little thought or originality into it, please?

Yes, but at the same time it might be a neat training ground for fully utilizing the various units.

Sounds to me like a more streamlined Barbarian Mod. It could be cute if done interestingly and HOPEFULLY will still use random maps...although I guess if its just mass combat it leaves a big part of Civ's techs pretty meaningless.

Perhaps, and I know this is just wishful thinking, Super Robo and or Chaos aren't completely lost but just something they're saving for the first patch (not that I hope they are shipping with known major bugs, but what Civ game hasn't needed several patches?).

I wonder if it will even be possible to 'win' at Civ Defence or will you just face wave after wave until you finally get overrun.

I wonder if it will even be possible to 'win' at Civ Defence or will you just face wave after wave until you finally get overrun.

I'd assume its unwinnable BUT, as any good arcade game, tracks your high scores.

The entire point of a classic arcade game is that you can't win. If you could win, you'd just win and leave, rather than remain behind and spend all your quarters beating your personal best. Therefore, if Civ Defense is meant to be similar to a classic arcade game, you won't be able to win.

Of course, since it's not at an arcade, you may very well be capable of winning. And does anyone else think that it sounds like they grabbed every unit they were throwing into the game and dumped them all into a single scenario? Not that it's a bad thing...

Re: Superrobo and Chaos:

If the scenarios were fairly advanced, I'm certain the disgruntled designers will release them for download online. Still, I always believed Chaos would only end up being the epic game with ridiculously common random events. Seeing as the testers got the really nasty events cut (and for good reason), I imagine there just wasn't anything left to make a decent scenario.

Since they released next to no info about Super-robo, I imagine it was hype all along, just like Chaos sounded (which sounded like a total slots version of Civ4).

Still with the BTS future tech and warbots, a Macross/Invid anime mod sounds possible and cool.