With the Official Site already opened, we finally know our future friends' (or enemies') faces. What do you think about them?

Darius is extremely black compared to the absolute-pale Cyrus. And is also like a mix between a Disney villain and an enemy from Titus the Fox!
Joao is a very pretty guy. He looks cartoony, indeed, but I will like him as a friend, should have a lovely smile.
Zara Yaqob is also handsome.
Gilgamesh is terryfing! He's exactly the opposite from the goofy man from Civ 3: Conquests.
And Charlemagne seems to be an statue. He's boring (and he isn't frankish!)

Darius does look unusual. Any history buffs want to chime in? I was under the impression that Persians were extremely fair skinned and although I know Darius wasn't Cyrus's son I believe they were related. Wouldn't they be of similar complexion?

Also, I absolutely hate Suryavarman's leaderhead. He looks awful.

This just goes to show that not every leader in the world was pleasing on the eyes. I admit, our friend from Khmer looks rather odd, but that just adds flavour to the game! Not everyone can be handsome or beautiful...

I'm just curious about why De Gaulle's animation is so similar to friendly Bismarck?

I'm just curious about why De Gaulle's animation is so similar to friendly Bismarck?

I got the feeling it was made by the fan (forget his name) working on the WWII scenario, and firaxis decided to go ahead and throw it into the game with only a few touch-ups (not redoing one from scratch).

I got the feeling it was made by the fan (forget his name) working on the WWII scenario, and firaxis decided to go ahead and throw it into the game with only a few touch-ups (not redoing one from scratch).

That, and the leaderhead model looks very similar to Roosevelt's...

Pacal: nice
De Gaulle: i really like it!!! i don't get the critics
Sitting Bull: i don't know what, but there is something bothering me in his skin
Joao: a little cartoonish, but nice
Hammurabi: quite good
Pericles: what is this f***ing thing on his head? looks a little like a bishop hat
Abe: quite good
Suleiman: very nice!!!
Gilgamesh: the best one i think
Justinian: bouhou!!! Why are you so sad? apart from that, not that bad
Zara Yacob: my second favorite
Orange: well, i didn't imagine him like that, but why not
suryavarman: the worst one, Where do you come from? Vulcan? Mars?
Charlemagne: His "statue" look give him the highness he deserve
Darius: much nicer than Cyrus!!!


And finally, Boudicca: She's just Hot!!!

I like Charlemagne. So dignified!!

And Pericles looks like a Greek god!

I'm loving the new music too. And Gilgamesh!!

Justinian and Suryavarman just looks freaky. :o

most of them look like some freaks. but thats okay. makes them more, er, "realistic" :)

Justinian is absolutely beautiful. His demeanour makes me really feel for him, too. He looks like a melancholic kind of person.



Zara Yaqob is also handsome.


You really think so? :confused:

Darius does look unusual. Any history buffs want to chime in? I was under the impression that Persians were extremely fair skinned and although I know Darius wasn't Cyrus's son I believe they were related. Wouldn't they be of similar complexion?

While I wouldn't consider myself a history buff at any rate, I just made a post about that in the thread about the Darius leaderhead. Here's a direct link, if you'd care to read it: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5614914&postcount=14

And yes, Cyrus and Darius were related. I believe they were "second cousins" if I understand the English terminology correctly.

I don't understand the criticism. Not every leader was beautiful, some were ugly by our standards. What's wrong with that? The description I've always heard of Justinian was that of a meek, pale man, as they did portray him so. I don't know much about the leader of Khmer, but is it too hard to imagine he wasn't appealing to the eyes?

Not every historical leader was a Prince Charming. You'll get used to them in a week tops after you being playing.

Justinian is excellent. Even if I had seen that picture outside of the context of BtS, I would still have been able to immediately identify him.

Am I the only one thinking that Willem looks like Vincent Price playing Richelieu?

Pericles: what is this f***ing thing on his head? looks a little like a bishop hat

Type Pericles into Google Image Search and you will immediately know. It's THE depiction of Pericles, what he is famous for and known. I doubt he ever wore his helmet that way (must be rather uncomfortable), but well, there are tons of statues looking that way.

http://www.kreweofpericles.net/Pericles/pericles203.jpg

I think most, if not all of them look interesting, while some of them look absolutely amazing..

I really like Joao II for some reason.. That hat is just amazing and his raised eyebrow will irritate me enough to declare war on the Portuguese over and over again.. :lol: I love him!

Justinian and Suryavarman do indeed look odd, but in an interesting kinda way actually..

Also, it's too bad Willem van Oranje looks nothing like his historical counterpart.. There are plenty of paintings of him out there, yet Oranje looks like a weird mix between Catweazle and Salvador Dali.. :eek:

Compare:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8939/civilizationivbeyondtheaj3.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4333/ska3148um7.jpg

Fortunately it's nothing a little modding won't be able to fix. All he needs is a slightly fuller beard, more gold on his clothes and a more rounded hat and he'd be a lot more like him.. Besides, what am I nagging on about? I'm just glad they decided to include the Netherlands!

Suryavaman Looks like ET.

Hmmmmm, not pleased with Charlemagne.

And I'm easily pleased re leaderheads.

But this guy does not look like an 8th century Frankish warrior king. He doesn't look remotely Frankish (a GERMAN tribe -- oh yes!), and there is nothing about his dress that recall the turbulent Dark Ages in which he lived.

I will now shake my head severely.

*shakes head*

I think Sitting Bulls LH resembles him well enough for an animation but I don't think it looks much like him. I wish they'da left out that stereotypical palm gesture but I can understand why it's there. I like the firelight effects alot! Commenting on that firelight is why I made this post in the first place.

Some of the leader heads look a bit odd to me. And many don't seem realistic, but
then this is 3D animation and with that in mind I think they are actually pretty good.

Gilgamesh, Charlemange, and Pericles are my favorites.

I think some people don't seem to understand that the Civ4 leaderhead style is supposed to be a charicature of sorts, not a super real depiction.

Oh yes. Gilgamesh is probably my favorite, even the "farmer's blow" animation :P

Joao II, Gilgamesh, Hammurabi all impressed me when I saw them...

But Lincoln seems a little...off...
I'm not sure how...He just looks different than from the original BtS picture...

Well, I don't think the point is if they look realistic or not. Most of the leaders in Vanilla Civ, although with differences, are cartoony. The "problem" is when there's a big difference between the contemporary depictions and the 3D image. Anyway, I can't find any weird depiction as we found in Civ 3 (Genghis? Thin Mao? Julius Caesar? That guy so called Alexander?).


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Zara Yaqob is also handsome.

You really think so?"

Yes, in fact, you are talking about weird leaders, but I think we have to look also to the new attractive ones: Pericles, Zara Yaqob (looks like a Hollywood star), Boudica, Gilgamesh, Joao!

PD: Does anyone think that Willem looks like an angry kitten (moustaches very exagerated and hair like ears)? He's very different from the pictures, as said above.

Willem looks a bit like Mephistopheles.

Suryavarman looks much too yellow to me ... the Khmer ethnicity is a mix of Indian, Chinese & Malays ... He looks more yellow than Qin Shi Huangdi & Mao! If I think Khmer, I think more of an Indian like complexion ...

And Darius is as mentioned much too black. The Persians are Indo-European. They were much more white. OK, Indians are Indo-Europeans too and are quite black ... But they are a mix from the black Dravidian & white Indo-European. OK Persians may be a mixture too, but they would not be that dark. Especially not the leaders ...

But apart from Joao, they all look charismatic & powerful. Joao looks like a Loony Tune.

I think Suryavarman's LH resembles Gary Oldman's Dracula (the scary old one) but with jaundice.
Pericles looks like Burt Reynolds.
the earlier post was dead-on about Oranje looking a bit like Vincent Price. I think it is the sour expression on his face. I won't comment on Boudica....she has had enough written about her on the site! :lol:
I liked Hammurabi's LH.
To the poster who wondered what was different about Lncoln: Does he look younger? It seems to me they took his likeness from before the war. Because that conflict sure made him age quickly! He doesn't look as haggard in the LH.
I thought Charlamagne kinda looked like he was an airhead....he has a rather stupified look about him. Maybe he's a little drunk?
All in all, though, I liked the way most of them are portrayed. I am curious to see their moods in action.