View Full Version : Later Scenarios


GarretSidzaka
Jul 09, 2007, 03:54 AM
Dale, you mentioned to me that you had some idea's about some community scenario's?? ;)

Dale
Jul 10, 2007, 03:53 AM
Well I've already said I'm working on a global scale scenario, so I'll release a list of "wanted artwork" soon. :)

Meanwhile, suggestions for leaderheads for Hitler and Hirohito?

I feel Chuggy's Hiro needs to be the one, but which one for Hitler?

Dale
Jul 10, 2007, 03:53 AM
Oh, can you make a swastika flag for me?

GarretSidzaka
Jul 10, 2007, 04:10 AM
removed old swastika

GarretSidzaka
Jul 10, 2007, 04:10 AM
Well I've already said I'm working on a global scale scenario, so I'll release a list of "wanted artwork" soon. :)

Meanwhile, suggestions for leaderheads for Hitler and Hirohito?

I feel Chuggy's Hiro needs to be the one, but which one for Hitler?

lemme see if i can put hitler on my list. im thinking about my modified alexander LH template with alot of additions

Dale
Jul 10, 2007, 04:48 AM
Post 1000!!! :D

* Yes I know it's useless, but I don't care. ;)

GarretSidzaka
Jul 10, 2007, 04:53 AM
hey thats good my brotha once you pass 1000, 2000 just seems to fly by

Dale
Jul 10, 2007, 06:31 AM
BTW, your swastika didn't work. Comes up blank (not pink, so I know it loaded the file).

GarretSidzaka
Jul 10, 2007, 03:38 PM
ok lemme see.......

GarretSidzaka
Jul 10, 2007, 04:02 PM
try this one :)

Gaius Octavius
Jul 13, 2007, 03:15 PM
Dale, I know this is almost a trivial issue, but do you think you could create a 48-star American flag that hangs correctly in the game? Right now we have that one that appears horizontally (as if it were on a flag pole), when all the other flags are hung from the top-down. It's kind of awkward as a result.

I'll show you what I mean. Instead of this:

http://www.ehrlesparty.com/images/Patriotic/American%20Flag%204x6.jpg

Could we have this?

http://www.flagguys.com/img/eagle24v.jpg

(The blue always goes in the upper-left corner.) Can you simply reverse the flag .dds?

GarretSidzaka
Jul 13, 2007, 04:36 PM
i made that flag and i can change it fairly easily. i will get on it soon.

Dale
Jul 13, 2007, 04:58 PM
Gaius:

Don't know if you noticed, but all the flags in RtW are horizontal. Not just US.

Quantumf8
Jul 18, 2007, 03:39 AM
This is a pretty good hitler LH in my opinion(http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2138, though you might still strive for better. If you do go the route of making hitler/mussolini LHs, might I suggest using Augustus or Julius for animations if only for the sheer fact they give roman salutes which can be made into authentic fascisti/nazi salutes.

If you're still going to make your own leaderheads, here are some good images for studying the faces. NOTE: The following are pictures of Evil men, the first in the words of of the second Was a Pederast =P

Hitler from shoulders up, later regime and in military dress, a more artistic representation of hitler,lacking the stern images of masculinity common in Fascist art and most nazi depictions of hitler. (http://www.third-reich-books.com/icon-hitler-pic.jpg)

The aforementioned style of art, a portrait of Hitler taken during the Reich, pay attention to the facial details,the droops under the eyes, as well as the style of the moustache, it's bushier and longer than most depictions. (http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/graphics/hitler_fuhrer.jpg)

Hitler in his full fury, note that the face seems more distressed than angry, while we know this is his angry face, it's still interesting to see a lack of a furrowed brow. To help you, note the jaw and how it is around the mouth, take a look at the brow and the contortion of the face. (http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-Hitler11cx.jpg)

A calmer, but still stern photograph of hitler, Grrr, he's a mean Nazi with a severe power complex, so he's going to be a moody emo!.. take a look at the picture, it's riddled with angst, I kid you not. It screams, to me at least, Nobody loves me =P (http://blogs.southflorida.com/citylink_dansweeney/hitler.jpg)

Il Duce himself, military portrait, the square jawline and the raised posistion of the face are key features. The look in his eyes almost seems to Disenfranchise one from the man himself, helping to create a stern, authoritarian feel. (http://www.philadelphia-reflections.com/images/mussolini.jpg)

Photograph inthe same style as the above, different clothing, here he iswearing his infamous hat, the Hat 'O Brutality as it were, I guess it's a manly fur cap. (http://www.earthstation1.com/WWIIPics/Italy/Mussolini/MussoliniSemi-Profile.jpg)

Without his very manly Hat 'O Brutality. He's either pushing for the authoritarian look or grumpy because his hat isn't with him. Do note that he never appears a happy fellow, so he might not smile in his LH, note how he's always trying to be stern. I'd say apply thisstern, miffed look in a form of varying emotions, Disgust(Studying) Anger (anger) Narrowing eyes and turning head away while looking at player (deciding) and.. well... more stern stuff. (http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Benito_Mussolini_Biography.jpg)

Mussolini the statesman, note the balding head and the slight double chin, do note how he also looksaway from the camera to create a feeling of pride or power around the portrait. (http://www.politicsprofessor.com/im/theorists/benito-mussolini.jpg)

A rare image of mussolini notlooking stern or like he's about to punish you, as a statesman in a crowd. The quality is poorer and I apologize, but try and make out his face and expression, you may not even recognize him as he's behaving like a normal human and not an overpowered father figure. This might be a good image for thise times when you don't want an angry mussolini. (http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/leaders/1923mussolini.jpg)

GarretSidzaka
Jul 18, 2007, 04:20 AM
@quantum
LOL i did that with mussolini already, and im working on augustus with hitler. but there is a problem with the export out of blender

Red Door
Jul 19, 2007, 05:00 PM
I got a suggestion, that should be pretty easy:

Postwar Cold War (1946-1960)

Fun enough, easy enough.

Quantumf8
Jul 19, 2007, 11:43 PM
except that they'd have to redo most leaders and unit types, create a new XML etc.

GarretSidzaka
Jul 20, 2007, 12:26 AM
we plan on eventual expansion scenarios. dale has talked about a spain mod, and i would love to contribute on a cold war mod.

dale what you think

Red Door
Jul 20, 2007, 09:08 AM
except that they'd have to redo most leaders and unit types, create a new XML etc.

Not really, in the immediate postwar world, most countries will be using the same weapons, minus the Germans/Japanese. It would be easier than building from scratch, that's for sure.

GarretSidzaka
Jul 20, 2007, 04:03 PM
and you would have to drop all the early WW2 stuff, and then add the newer tanks.

kittenOFchaos
Jul 20, 2007, 04:23 PM
Later Scenarios...well, I'd like WW2 in the Pacific starting with Pearl Harbour.

In Europe there is tonnes of scope:

Battle of France - actually an ideal start point as no over-difficult invasions for the AI to do from this point on as Germany.
The Battle of Britain (Start)
Operation Barbarossa (Start)
Invasion of Italy (Start)
Operation Overlord (Start)

MirvShag
Jul 25, 2007, 07:47 AM
I have infinite ideas. But would it not be best to focus on the 3 scenarios we have and get them up to speed? Like the addon pack? Or am I dumb? lol

I'm only good for testing, not really modding so maybe I'll shutup =)

I, just as a player, would prefer few high quality scenarios over lots of lesser quality.

ok, shutting up now. ;)

dankok8
Jul 25, 2007, 09:42 AM
I've played Europe 1939 up to mid-1940 by now and I found it a great scenario. Good Job!!!

However, there are a few minor things that can be fixed easily:
1) Soviet Union should declare war on Poland when Germany does too (it was a secret part of the Non-Aggression Pact between the 2 countries and led to Soviets capturing eastern Poland). This would add more historical accuracy and prevent cities captured by Germany in eastern Poland from flipping to the Soviets as the Soviets would capture them.
2) The cities of the Low Countries are much more heavily defended than the French cities .. a few troops should be cut down there and perhaps a few added to the French

Anyways, I still have more to play so catch ya later ;)

GarretSidzaka
Jul 25, 2007, 02:27 PM
i think dale might have covered the poland issue already, maybe in another thread.

i think the low countries benefit from alot of hilly terrain.

PinkPallin
Jul 25, 2007, 03:58 PM
i think the low countries benefit from alot of hilly terrain.

The low countries? Do you mean the Netherland? Hilly?!?
Man, Holland is flat. No, is flatter than flat.
As far as I remember, they couldn't put up any military resistance, because of the flat terrain.

GarretSidzaka
Jul 25, 2007, 07:42 PM
The low countries? Do you mean the Netherland? Hilly?!?
Man, Holland is flat. No, is flatter than flat.
As far as I remember, they couldn't put up any military resistance, because of the flat terrain.

:mischief:You got me there. :rotfl:

lamppost4
Jul 26, 2007, 10:04 AM
I think the best scenario would be a global scenario but thats in development so Im happy.

GarretSidzaka
Jul 26, 2007, 02:31 PM
yeah, dont worry, dale will always take care of us civ fiends :)

dankok8
Jul 27, 2007, 11:58 AM
would it be possible to make the 3 cities in east Poland flip to Russia when Germany declares war on Poland to symbolize this annexation ?
BTW a few cities captured by the Germans in Norway seem to have Swedish revolts .. not a big deal if they don't flip over the course of the game but I though I should point it out.

Dale
Jul 27, 2007, 02:15 PM
Flips are turned off, only revolts will happen.

kittenOFchaos
Jul 30, 2007, 10:41 PM
As far as I remember, they couldn't put up any military resistance, because of the flat terrain.

Canals and towns make very good defensive positions, the Dutch just gave in as they weren't prepared to take heavily losses and the bombing of Rotterdam for the purpose of buying the Allies time. Abit selfish, but definitely in the best interests of the Dutch people.

Paasky
Aug 02, 2007, 09:02 AM
Same as the Danish. They did hold the Germans back for a few hours, but when a big cloud of He-111's appeared above Copenhagen they surrendered, no reason to have your people bombed with the odds completely against you.

kittenOFchaos
Aug 05, 2007, 04:36 PM
Tell that to the British in 1940...well, leastways to the Government at the time, I'm sure many Britons would have said differently.

PinkPallin
Aug 05, 2007, 07:41 PM
Surely the english spirit under the bombs was unrivalled.
But when you're also facing the enemy's tanks, and your people (counting men and women, elders and children) are fewer than the enemy soldiers... well, that's really a different situation.

Paasky
Aug 06, 2007, 09:18 AM
I could pull in the Winter War argument, but that was a different matter, with all the easily defended forests, lakes & marshes without any proper roads in the coldest winter in decades. While Denmark is flatter than a table that has just been measured to have no bumps larger than 0.0001mm.

"The russkies have a million men, and if they fall they'll bring a million women"

PinkPallin
Aug 06, 2007, 11:56 AM
Not mentioning that the tanks could go through the whole continental Denmark in just one day!

Their only chance would have been if they were attacked only by the Italian Regio Esercito.... :lol:

Tboy
Aug 13, 2007, 10:07 AM
I could pull in the Winter War argument, but that was a different matter, with all the easily defended forests, lakes & marshes without any proper roads in the coldest winter in decades. While Denmark is flatter than a table that has just been measured to have no bumps larger than 0.0001mm.

"The russkies have a million men, and if they fall they'll bring a million women"

Ah the Russian philosophy: 'If you're losing the war, you're not throwing enough soldiers at it.'

BTW, Russia still hasn't given back the areas it got in the Winter War, has it?


Back on topic though, I think a global one should get top priority, with possibly a few advanced starts (I think 1940 and 1941 for Europe, and 1941 for the Pacific).