Why is it there a need to research techs like Hunting, Fishing and especially Agriculture.

Hunting has been a "tech" since before the first humans arrive.
Also, before Humans started to live in cities, fishing has already been learnt. A good 10000 years ago according to Wikipedia

Now, from what I know, Humans settled down only because they figured out how to grow food and later domesticate animals. How is it possible to set up a city but not have agriculture and still need to learn hunting and fishing in Civilization.

I've always wondered what the civs who start with only Mining, Mysticism and/or The Wheel are eating. Are they just scavenging for berries or something? :crazyeye:

Civilization is as historically accurate as 1984. Firaxis is quite aware of this.

just look at what you can do with police state jails and the national wonder Mt.Rushmoore start a few wars never declare peace and grind your foe away with War anger unless he is useing the same combo.

not all the civilizations knew the agriculture or the fishing in the 4000 b.c.
for example Maya or Mongols discover agriculture more later

Guess Firaxis had to start somewhere. In 4000BC, I think Egypt had a fairly elaborate civilization and culture at that point, but in the game, they start with a settler and a dude with a club.

The aspects of the early techs might represent improvements on known skills. Agriculture could involve irrigation verses planting something and praying for rain. Fishing could be the difference between spear fishing on the shore and nets from a boat. Hunting would be more sophistocated methods, such as a spear with an atlatl rather than dropping rocks off of a cliff. Yes, the techs did exist early on, but there was room for improvement.

Firaxis needed to establish some starting point for everything to create a fairly level playing field. Overall, it balances out fairly well.

Guess Firaxis had to start somewhere. In 4000BC, I think Egypt had a fairly elaborate civilization and culture at that point, but in the game, they start with a settler and a dude with a club.

The aspects of the early techs might represent improvements on known skills. Agriculture could involve irrigation verses planting something and praying for rain. Fishing could be the difference between spear fishing on the shore and nets from a boat. Hunting would be more sophistocated methods, such as a spear with an atlatl rather than dropping rocks off of a cliff. Yes, the techs did exist early on, but there was room for improvement.

Firaxis needed to establish some starting point for everything to create a fairly level playing field. Overall, it balances out fairly well.
Ah, you're one of those people who tries to ensure people how historically accurate Firaxis is? A tech is a tech, trying to explain it that way doesn't help anyone. You're just fooling yourself.

You just lost some of my respect.

Ah, you're one of those people who tries to ensure people how historically accurate Firaxis is? A tech is a tech, trying to explain it that way doesn't help anyone. You're just fooling yourself.

You just lost some of my respect.

In my opinion the respect of a Swede is worth less than the firaxis' historical accuracy
That's all

Ah, you're one of those people who tries to ensure people how historically accurate Firaxis is? A tech is a tech, trying to explain it that way doesn't help anyone. You're just fooling yourself.

You just lost some of my respect.

Not sure what respect has to do with it. :confused:

That aside, some people like aspects of games to make logical sense, even if that logical sense is a reach. I was just trying to present an angle that might offer that. Overall, it is a game and that's it. Games rarely marry up well with history.