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MrPresident May 22, 2002, 02:48 PM This is a question that has plagued mankind since the beautiful game was invented and it had to be named. Fierce debate has raged for well over a century. Now is the time for it to be answered. The question is:
Do you call it
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Football
Soccer
Something Completely Different
What sport are we talking about
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The fate of an entire sporting world is in your hands. Actual fate not in your hands. Name of the sport in question can not be changed by this poll or any other poll of this kind. In fact this poll is meaningless and probably a waste of however much time you spent reading this and answering the question. That is time you will never get back and so you should probably stop reading this right now. What did I tell you? Right now. okay now for sure. now. stop it. okay this is the final warning I shall give otherwise I will end it very abruptly so I suggest you
Becka May 22, 2002, 03:01 PM :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't believe it. I can't believe it!! After all the arguments I've had about and how American football is football and soccer is soccer, I go and vote for the wrong thing.
:lol:
Hitro May 22, 2002, 03:04 PM Of course it is Football!
It's a game played predominantly with the foot, not some 'sport' where people are running around carrying an oval 'ball' in their hands. :D
Flatlander Fox May 22, 2002, 03:04 PM I call it Soccer.
And it's not beautiful, at least to me. More like boring.:D
Hey, YOU asked for it! ;)
philippe May 22, 2002, 03:06 PM its "VOETBAL"!not soccer or football its VOETBAL!
Beam May 22, 2002, 03:08 PM Originally posted by philippe
its "VOETBAL"!not soccer or football its VOETBAL!
This time I agree with philippe!
Isn't it called Futbol in Spanish and Portugese?
Hitro May 22, 2002, 03:09 PM Gaah, vote 'Football' then philippe!
The English are widely accepted to have 'invented' the game and although they can't play it everybody who likes it should vote for their version. ;)
philippe May 22, 2002, 03:12 PM hitro still angry they beated up your country in the football?
your stuggy defensive and your boring football style makes everyone go to bed.
Beam May 22, 2002, 03:16 PM Originally posted by Hitro
The English are widely accepted to have 'invented' the game and although they can't play it everybody who likes it should vote for their version. ;)
Here comes the issue, the inventors call it soccer. Isn't it called Fussbal in German?
Hitro May 22, 2002, 03:36 PM Originally posted by Beammeuppy
Isn't it called Fussbal in German?
Yes, but like voetbal, futbol etc. that means in English: Football.
Why should American football be called football?
Originally posted by philippe
hitro still angry they beated up your country in the football?
your stuggy defensive and your boring football style makes everyone go to bed.
Says who? Belgium? :lol:
basta72 May 22, 2002, 03:46 PM Itīs "fotboll" =)
Lucky May 22, 2002, 03:50 PM Originally posted by Beammeuppy
Here comes the issue, the inventors call it soccer.
Since when??
The English call it Football, the international community calls it football and the FIFA even has the Football in its acronym. Itīs FIFA not FISA. :p
Only Americans insist on soccer.
:D
Vinc May 22, 2002, 03:57 PM SOCCER of course. Football is what Europeans call American football.
AND I don't consider SOCCER the beatiful game. They play for 1 hour and a half, have enourmous nets, how come they only do one goal per game?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;)
ComradeDavo May 22, 2002, 04:03 PM football
I have been playing for 8 years and I have never called it anything different
Pggar May 22, 2002, 04:04 PM We can see you don't understand it, Vince.
That's why you don't think it is a beautiful game! :p
And the question from Hitro remains unanswered:
Why should American football be called football and not fruitball as 6chan baptized it? :D
Lucky May 22, 2002, 04:14 PM Originally posted by Pggar
And the question from Hitro remains unanswered:
Why should American football be called football and not fruitball as 6chan baptized it? :D
Indeed! The American thing uses neither a BALL nor is it mainly played by FOOT.
Should be more like "Carry the Fruit and Run" or "Fruitrun" or "Fruitcarry" or "Carryfruit". :lol:
But I have to agree that real Football can get a little tiresome eventually, especially if you try to watch every game of a season.
:D
Hitro May 22, 2002, 04:35 PM Originally posted by Lucky
But I have to agree that real Football can get a little tiresome eventually, especially if you try to watch every game of a season.
Hmm, of course there are not that interesting matches now or then, but having watched practically every game of a season I can say that is doesn't get tiresome overall. :D
animepornstar May 22, 2002, 04:40 PM football not beautiful?:mad:
what sport can compete with the beauty of this goal:
http://bart.sm.luth.se/~johobe-1/redondo.avi
Simon Darkshade May 22, 2002, 04:41 PM It's soccer, and it is most definitely NOT a beautiful game, but a boring little event of prima donnas running up and down a pitch for no real result.
IceBlaZe May 22, 2002, 05:31 PM What What What?
What are you all talking about?
It's called "Kaduregel" :D
Becka May 22, 2002, 05:49 PM Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
It's soccer, and it is most definitely NOT a beautiful game, but a boring little event of prima donnas running up and down a pitch for no real result.
Amen, brother, testify! :p
But the REAL beauty is REAL football. As the Spanish might say, fútbol americano. :D
Or at least, the real beauty of American football are those football pants. :goodjob:
MrPresident May 23, 2002, 01:02 AM a boring little event of prima donnas running up and down a pitch for no real result.
You could say that about almost any sport in the world, particularly American ones.
They play for 1 hour and a half, have enourmous nets, how come they only do one goal per game??
Only in recent times have there been less goals in a game. However I prefer a goaless hard fought draw to basketball's 100 points a piece. I mean what makes a goal so special is the fact that there are so few of them. As for the beautiful game debate, I ask anyone who thinks it isn't to watch Beckham's freekick in the last-minute against Greece to put England into the World Cup. I don't think there is any other American sport that can put the fate of an entire nation on the kicking of one ball, talk about excitement. If that doesn't convince you then watch Liverpool in last years UEFA cup final. This game is not only special because Liverpool won (1 of our 5 trophies that year) but also because it 4-3 with an 'golden' own goal scored in extra-time. Last but not least where else can you get non-league or even part-time teams playing the best the sport has to offer (see FA cup). I rest my case.
ainwood May 23, 2002, 01:18 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
I mean what makes a goal so special is the fact that there are so few of them. I thought that Canterbury's drubbing of NSW in the super 12 was "beautiful", and there were PLENTY of tries there!:lol:
As for the beautiful game debate, I ask anyone who thinks it isn't to watch Beckham's freekick in the last-minute against Greece to put England into the World Cup. I don't think there is any other American sport that can put the fate of an entire nation on the kicking of one ball, talk about excitement. If that doesn't convince you then watch Liverpool in last years UEFA cup final. This game is not only special because Liverpool won (1 of our 5 trophies that year) but also because it 4-3 with an 'golden' own goal scored in extra-time. Last but not least where else can you get non-league or even part-time teams playing the best the sport has to offer (see FA cup). I rest my case.
Any game can generate this type of excitement; even the American ones. Last-second wins are commonplace in the NBA for example.
Zwelgje May 23, 2002, 01:40 AM Soccer is the best game, what other sport is there in which almost all countries in the world participate in the (qualification for) world championship? It's the ultimate sport event with so many nationalities participating and so many countries actually having a chance to win.
polymath May 23, 2002, 01:57 AM It's football, no question, and agree with Mr P that basketball points are silly, with the proviso that nobody, but NOBODY, likes a 0-0 in football.
andycapp May 23, 2002, 02:18 AM You keep gnawing away MrPresident - or has this issue been gnawing at you? :p
I (and others) have made the point before that when people refer to 'football' it reflects what they are familiar with.
The underlying theme of this topic is that only followers of 'Soccer' :p have the right to refer to their sport as 'Football' which is both arrogant and ignorant.
I understand the love and passion people have for 'their' sport but that doesn't mean that people should close their minds to the possiblity that another sport can also be exciting to play, watch and follow.
I have played Soccer, Rugby Union and Australian Rules Football and have no hesitation saying, IMO, that Aussie Rules is a far more enjoyable game to play and watch but I am also happy to admit I enjoy a good game of Soccer and Rugby Union.
Does it matter whether Aussies and Americans refer to Association Football as 'Soccer' and their indigenous codes as 'Football' - I think not. :rolleyes:
MrPresident May 23, 2002, 02:20 AM I think that nil nil drwas can be exciting. For example, an FA cup match between a Premiership team and a non-league side. The Premiership team has lots of chances but they all go wide or saved brillantly or hit the crossbar/post. That to me is just as exciting as any high scoring game. However having said that I hope no one has to endure a nil nil between Crystal Palace and Derby County at a freezing cold Baseball ground. But let they anything can happen in football. It truly is a game of two halfs.The underlying theme of this topic is that only followers of 'Soccer' have the right to refer to their sport as 'Football' which is both arrogant and ignorant.
It is not arrogant or ignorance. The game is called Football and we want you to give it the respect it deserves and call it by that. If someone tells you their name, do you call them something completely different? no. If you are in a foreign land and someone tells you the name of some native village, do you call it something completely different? no. If a scientist invents something and names it, do you call that something completely different? no. Football is the world's most popular game and deserves to be called its name. I think it is arrogant of other sports to think that they can call their sports football.
andycapp May 23, 2002, 02:37 AM Calm down MrPres, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
As it happens when I'm in Britain, I do refer to Soccer as Football because that is what the locals understand by the term. When I'm at home I refer to Aussie Rules as Football because that is the common meaning here - not so difficult to understand is it?
You can jump up and down about "lack of respect etc" all you like it won't change the reality.
If you're fortunate enough to visit the southern states of Australia and you wish to be understood make sure you are talking about Aussie Rules when you speak about 'Football'. :D
allhailIndia May 23, 2002, 02:49 AM It's football, football, football.
The other one should be called the "Girlie, Wimpy, protection-wearing-excuse for rugby.";)
You decide which:D
MrPresident May 23, 2002, 02:52 AM If you're fortunate enough to visit the southern states of Australia and you wish to be understood make sure you are talking about Aussie Rules when you speak about 'Football'
But won't you Aussies (and Americans) be confused when I say that I support Liverpool Football Club?
Calm down MrPres, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
A mole hill is a mountain to an ant.
andycapp May 23, 2002, 03:26 AM A "jockstrap" (one word) is an athletic support for the male genitals. :D
Originally posted by MrPresident
But won't you Aussies (and Americans) be confused when I say that I support Liverpool Football Club?
We've heard of Liverpool in the colonies - it's a suburb of Sydney. :p
A mole hill is a mountain to an ant.
And I thought you were a human! :eek:
ainwood May 23, 2002, 03:45 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
If you are in a foreign land and someone tells you the name of some native village, do you call it something completely different? So, when in Germany, do you have the decency to call it Deutchland?, Munich: Munchen etc? :rolleyes:
I think it is arrogant of other sports to think that they can call their sports football.
Although, as AndyCapp says, he calls Association Football "football" when he is in the UK. By your own logic, you should call it "soccer" when you are in Aussie, NZ or the US.
Lab Monkey May 23, 2002, 04:04 AM Soccer is it's real name derived from the name of the original Victorian period association, I don't remember where the CER on the end comes from. Football was coined later. The Yanks just took rugby (named after an English school where it originated), gave the players body armour, and called it Football.
So be proud to call it soccer. It's ugly, too wealthy for it's own good, and inspires unhealthy amounts of nationalism, but we love it. Just don't talk to me about those pathetic Capital Radio football comentators who go into orgasm every time England scores...
Lightforce May 23, 2002, 04:36 AM I think it actually comes from association.
Either way, it was coined by the toffs, who called Rugby "Rugger", and Football "Soccer". The fools.
SOCCER of course. Football is what Europeans call American football.
Since when?? :confused:
duke o' york May 23, 2002, 04:56 AM Originally posted by Lab Monkey
Soccer is its real name derived from the name of the original Victorian period association, I don't remember where the CER on the end comes from. Football was coined later.
I know! I've just invented a wonderful new sport! Who fancies a game of Association?
What a load of nonsense. Labmonkey - you ought to know better than that. The only reason it is called soccer is because the governing body is the Football Association. It was then known as association football to differentiate it from Rugby football, named after the school (traditionally), which derived from football.
I am quite happy for other nations to call it soccer, but am rather curious to hear them insist that they are right to do so.
Act I Scene iv of King Lear (1606): "Nor tripped neither, you base football player" (Kent).
And the pilgrim fathers set up their gridiron when exactly?
Is it now possible for mods to merge threads from different forums? Like Gamecatcher for example?
Lab Monkey May 23, 2002, 05:06 AM Thank you very much.
I meant that Soccer is the name given to the game played by today's rules. I couldn't give a toss what we called it 100s of years before we were civilized enough to invent rules.
To be honest, it seems to me that soccer fans were too daft to think of a real name, so they said "Duh, you kick a ball, so we'll call it 'Foot-ball'!". At least they'll have no problem remembering the name.
It's like calling 'Golf' 'Club ball'. Or 'Rugby' 'Mindlessviolencewithaball'.
Daaraa May 23, 2002, 05:18 AM People tend to call it soccer here in Canada. But if someone says football and they do not have an American or a Canadian accent we assume they are referring to soccer. I did not know the Aussies referred to it as soccer because of Aussie rules football.
As to whether or not which one is right, WHO CARES! :)
(However if we were to decide it by a soccer/football match I'm afraid the "Football" side would defeat the "Soccer" side.)
knowltok2 May 23, 2002, 05:31 AM I call it soccer here in America. When in Rome, do as the Americans do, right ;) . When reffering to it internationally I refer to it as football. If some of you Europeans are so worked up about it, why don't you get us back by referring to our Football as something else? Maybe you could call it ArmBall. Then Americans can get righteously indignant about it and perhaps feel your pain. Then an international treaty could be formed to change names, and...I'm getting carried away, aren't I? ;)
As far as Golf, they call it that because Sh!t was taken.
allhailIndia May 23, 2002, 05:47 AM IIRC, the name 'futeball' came during the 14th-15th centuey when the game was played like hell on the streets of London and was banned for a 100 years or so.Imagine!:D
Daaraa May 23, 2002, 05:51 AM Originally posted by knowltok2
I call it soccer here in America. When in Rome, do as the Americans do, right ;) . When reffering to it internationally I refer to it as football. If some of you Europeans are so worked up about it, why don't you get us back by referring to our Football as something else? Maybe you could call it ArmBall. Then Americans can get righteously indignant about it and perhaps feel your pain. Then an international treaty could be formed to change names, and...I'm getting carried away, aren't I? ;)
As far as Golf, they call it that because Sh!t was taken.
:lol: :rotfl:
They could've called it garbage. Wanna go out on the garbage course? How about a round of garbage? :lol:
Lightforce May 23, 2002, 05:56 AM IIRC, it actually used to be played between entire villages, and each game featured at least a few fatalities/maulings on each side.
I think it was banned because it distracted the people from their mandatory archery practice, but I'm not sure.
andycapp May 23, 2002, 05:59 AM I was stupid enough to believe that once, and then I realised the possibilities - introduce the game of golf to someone you hate! :satan:
Tell them that Golf is a test of charater blah, blah, blah and a good way to network and meet the 'right sort of people' etc.
And then watch your evil work bear fruit - the frustration of trying to hitt that itty bitty white ball into an itty bitty hole will take it's toll.
Originally posted by knowltok2
As far as Golf, they call it that because Sh!t was taken.
My Grandfather described Golf as a "good walk ruined", I should have listened to him - my bank balance would be fatter and I would have fewer grey hairs - if only I could cure that slice! :eek:
allhailIndia May 23, 2002, 05:59 AM Originally posted by knowltok2
I call it soccer here in America. When in Rome, do as the Americans do, right ;) . When reffering to it internationally I refer to it as football. If some of you Europeans are so worked up about it, why don't you get us back by referring to our Football as something else? Maybe you could call it ArmBall. Then Americans can get righteously indignant about it and perhaps feel your pain. Then an international treaty could be formed to change names, and...I'm getting carried away, aren't I? ;)
As far as Golf, they call it that because Sh!t was taken.
My late granddad would have loved that!!!;)
He was the ultimate sportsman and held state records and championships in everything from Chess to Cricket!!, but he hated Golf and GP and never stopped criticizing both games even in front of their connoiseurs:p
polymath May 23, 2002, 06:09 AM "To be honest, it seems to me that soccer fans were too daft to think of a real name, so they said "Duh, you kick a ball, so we'll call it 'Foot-ball'!" - Lab Monkey
Given this, I would be delightfully amused to hear your take on how the yanks came up with the same word for their sport? If your little theory is true for us, how did it work for them, pray tell?
knowltok2 May 23, 2002, 06:15 AM Originally posted by Daaraa
:lol: :rotfl:
They could've called it garbage. Wanna go out on the garbage course? How about a round of garbage? :lol:
You ever hear anyone say, "Aw, Garbage!" After missing a two-footer?
Didn't think so.
ainwood May 23, 2002, 06:50 AM Originally posted by duke o' york
I am quite happy for other nations to call it soccer, but am rather curious to hear them insist that they are right to do so. ditto in reverse.:)
On reflection, actually I'm curous to here the "football" proponents insist that "soccer" proponents are wrong to call it so.
MrPresident May 23, 2002, 06:50 AM What I don't understand is why Americans and Aussies call their sport football? Why couldn't one of them call their sport 'soccer'? The offical name of the two sports are American Football and Australian Rules Football. Notice how they both recognise that they are in fact not football but a different sport. So why then call their sport football? Why not some other name? Like Throwball or Kickball etc. Why football? Anyone?
knowltok2 May 23, 2002, 06:55 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
What I don't understand is why Americans and Aussies call their sport football? Why couldn't one of them call their sport 'soccer'? The offical name of the two sports are American Football and Australian Rules Football. Notice how they both recognise that they are in fact not football but a different sport. So why then call their sport football? Why not some other name? Like Throwball or Kickball etc. Why football? Anyone?
I wasn't aware that the official name of the game played in America was American Football. There is a National Football Leage. It doesn't say anything about it being American Football. There is an American Football conference, but this would be the same as a British Football Conference, not denoting the name, but more the location.
I'm telling you, call it Armball, and give us nasty yanks a taste of our own medicine.
:lol:
polymath May 23, 2002, 07:00 AM "call it Armball"
Tsk! That's cricket!
MrPresident May 23, 2002, 07:06 AM "I'm telling you, call it Armball, and give us nasty yanks a taste of our own medicine."
But armball has something to do with American football.
knowltok2 May 23, 2002, 07:52 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
"I'm telling you, call it Armball, and give us nasty yanks a taste of our own medicine."
But armball has something to do with American football.
So? Some people are saying that Soccer has something to do with European football. I'm just saying, call it something that will annoy us as much as soccer annoys you. Armball just seems less likely to start a war than, Yankee Imperialistic Oppression of the Third-World By Greedy Capitalists Who Know Nothing About The World, Act Unilaterally, and Can't Spell Colour Right Ball. ;)
polymath May 23, 2002, 08:05 AM I like it, it's catchy!
Hitro May 23, 2002, 08:18 AM "Yankee Imperialistic Oppression of the Third-World By Greedy Capitalists Who Know Nothing About The World, Act Unilaterally, and Can't Spell Colour Right Ball"
That's a great proposal for the official name! :goodjob:
The informal name could be "Yankeeball" then. :lol:
Simon Darkshade May 23, 2002, 08:29 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
What I don't understand is why Americans and Aussies call their sport football?
Why couldn't one of them call their sport 'soccer'?
The offical name of the two sports are American Football and Australian Rules Football.
Notice how they both recognise that they are in fact not football but a different sport. So why then call their sport football? Why not some other name? Like Throwball or Kickball etc. Why football? Anyone?
1.) Because we choose to. Just bloody well get over it, because chucking a hissy fit on an obscure (;)) forum is not going to change anything.:p
2.) Never. It is not soccer. It is a real sport.
MrPresident May 23, 2002, 08:29 AM Yankeeball ain't that bad. I think thats what I'll be calling it from now on.
Mr Darkshade (I assume it is Mr) I would like to know what you think defines a real sport.
Simon Darkshade May 23, 2002, 08:35 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
Mr Darkshade (I assume it is Mr) I would like to know what you think defines a real sport.
"Doctor" or "Sir" will suffice.
A real sport: Either footy or cricket.:p
Soccer, 'tis a soft game. Not enough fights, goals, swift handball, Abletts, high marking, or shirtfronts.:D
SunTzu May 23, 2002, 09:14 AM Its Soccer to me. I used to play soccer and i was awesome at it until it died out in my town :( Baseball is the bomb, that is if your talented enough to play it.
animepornstar May 23, 2002, 09:21 AM pfft. vinnie jones is not a former cricket player.
Simon Darkshade May 23, 2002, 09:24 AM Originally posted by animepornstar
pfft. vinnie jones is not a former cricket player.
Who??:confused:
Dell19 May 23, 2002, 09:25 AM Its football...And the average goals per match must be around 2.5 rather than just 1...Vinnie Jones is famous for playing for Wimbledon and adapting the Simon approach to sport...
ComradeDavo May 23, 2002, 11:16 AM "Yankee Imperialistic Oppression of the Third-World By Greedy Capitalists Who Know Nothing About The World, Act Unilaterally, and Can't Spell Colour Right Ball"
sounds good to me:p:rolleyes:
ok, everybody, it is FOOTBALL
MrPresident, keep up the good work:goodjob:
FOOTBALL
FOOTBALL
FOOTBALL
ARGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
andycapp May 23, 2002, 04:18 PM Tsk, tsk MrPres you are a slow learner, any time someone wants to get under your skin all they have to do is say the word S-O-C-C-E-R and we will all be entertained with a "hissy fit". :lol:
Originally posted by MrPresident
What I don't understand is why Americans and Aussies call their sport football? Why couldn't one of them call their sport 'soccer'? The offical name of the two sports are American Football and Australian Rules Football. Notice how they both recognise that they are in fact not football but a different sport. So why then call their sport football? Why not some other name? Like Throwball or Kickball etc. Why football? Anyone?
MrPres since you feel so strongly about it why don't you write to the Australian Football League and demand that they change their title to the Australian Soccer League - I'm sure they'll see the merits of your argument and act accordingly.
Methink you doth protest to much, you are now indulging in cultural imperialism - get over it. :rolleyes:
Crimson Sunrise May 23, 2002, 04:21 PM I call it both, depending on how I feel at the time.
Flatlander Fox May 23, 2002, 06:42 PM For what it's worth, nothing anyone says can change my mind.:)
Still soccer, just like Muenchen or Munich. Blame it on the language barrier.:D
MrPresident May 24, 2002, 01:44 AM MrPres since you feel so strongly about it why don't you write to the Australian Football League and demand that they change their title to the Australian Soccer League
I would gladly if you offer to pay for the airmail fee.
For what it's worth, nothing anyone says can change my mind.
What if I offered you 1 million (whatever you currency) to change your mind?
As for Mr Darkshade I won't call you doctor unless you are fully qualified and I won't call you sir unless you were knighted by her majesty. If you were knighted I still wouldn't you call that, long live the Republic!
Not enough fights, goals, swift handball, Abletts, high marking, or shirtfronts.
I suggest you watch some 1950s to 1980s football and I think you will change your mind. A World Cup match springs to mind between Italy and someone (I forget). The match was called off because the players were playing football just fighting with each other.
Blame it on the language barrier.
I blame it on the mental barrier.
Dell19 May 24, 2002, 01:56 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
A World Cup match springs to mind between Italy and someone (I forget). The match was called off because the players were playing football just fighting with each other.
That would be Italy and Chile...
ainwood May 24, 2002, 02:24 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
I would gladly if you offer to pay for the airmail fee. Does this mean that you won't even pay Ģ0.50 to defend your principles?:eek:
What if I offered you 1 million (whatever you currency) to change your mind? He said "nothing anyonce can say", not "nothing anyone can pay". And if you can't stump-up Ģ0.50.....
I blame it on the mental barrier. Surely you can get treatment for that.;)
Simon Darkshade May 24, 2002, 02:43 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
What if I offered you 1 million (whatever you currency) to change your mind?
As for Mr Darkshade I won't call you doctor unless you are fully qualified and I won't call you sir unless you were knighted by her majesty. If you were knighted I still wouldn't you call that, long live the Republic!
I suggest you watch some 1950s to 1980s football and I think you will change your mind. A World Cup match springs to mind between Italy and someone (I forget). The match was called off because the players were playing football just fighting with each other.
I blame it on the mental barrier.
1.) No.
2.) Silly little peasant. Special Branch will be onto you, you confounded communist!:p
3.) Real fights, not a little hair pulling and chest pushing. Anyway, it is irrelevant if there used to be a few fights in the past of soccer.
4.) Well, hard work and application should help you overcome this mental barrier of yours within twenty five years or so. Don't give up hope! One day, you could find real work! :p
duke o' york May 24, 2002, 02:50 AM Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Soccer, 'tis a soft game. Not enough fights, goals, swift handball, Abletts, high marking, or shirtfronts.:D
Au contraire. Your Australian version boasts Garry Ablett of Geelong (whoever they may be) but the kickaround version of football can boast Gary Ablett, ex of Liverpool, Everton, and Birmingham City.
MrPresident May 24, 2002, 03:13 AM Does this mean that you won't even pay Ģ0.50 to defend your principles
You'll be surprised how little I will do to defend my principles. As someone once said, "Those are my principles and if you don't like....then I have others".
Simon Darkshade May 24, 2002, 03:13 AM Originally posted by duke o' york
Au contraire. Your Australian version boasts Garry Ablett of Geelong (whoever they may be) but the kickaround version of football can boast Gary Ablett, ex of Liverpool, Everton, and Birmingham City.
That's Gary Ablett, also known as God and acclaimed as one of the very best players of all time. Slightly better than the soccer player with the same name. I guess he never kicked 14 goals off a wing, or 14 goals in a losing side. Nor been best on ground in a Grand Final, kicking 9 goals in a losing side.
And that is still not enough Abletts, given his brothers played also at the highest level, as does his son and nephew.
Still does not address the paucity of goals, scoring, excitement, swift handball, skill, courage, high marking, shirtfronts, long runs bouncing the air conveyance, pouring blood and mud.
Henrique May 25, 2002, 12:01 PM Darkshade: if Aussie Football was the half of the emotion youīre saying it is, it would certainly be played and watched all over the world as REAL FOOTBALL is.
MrPresident May 25, 2002, 01:29 PM "I guess he never kicked 14 goals off a wing, or 14 goals in a losing side"
Hell if he had I would think of him as a God.
History_Buff May 25, 2002, 02:21 PM I really am not sure, because the two names change so much.
As for American Football, its crap, watch Canadian football.
Should I ever go anywhere else though, I would call Canadian soccer football, vice versa, just because they invented them both, so its worth respecting thier names for it.
Irish Caesar May 31, 2002, 01:15 PM Soccer.
Two teams running back and forth.
Nothing happens.
Watch cross-country running or marathons, the view changes.
For a real sport, watch baseball or football.
Or even better, Nascar.
DaSilva May 31, 2002, 09:21 PM Fitbaw!
academia May 31, 2002, 09:51 PM How the hell "Soccer" is winning?????????
THAT WORD "SOCCER" MEANS NOTHING!!!! who did invent it??
Please guys, itīs TOO SIMPLE!!!!
"FOOTBALL": YOU KICK THE BALL WITH YOUR FOOT!! ;)
Donīt you get it? itīs simple
willemvanoranje Jun 01, 2002, 04:55 AM voetbal, Fussball or Football!!! NOT soccer!
Ren Jun 01, 2002, 07:54 AM Originally posted by Lucky
Only Americans insist on soccer.
:D
I'm no yank :mad: :p
Most Aussies call it Soccer
I usually call it Futebol
MrPresident Jun 01, 2002, 09:13 AM Can someone explain to me how Americans (and to a lesser extent Australians) can call their sport football? Ignore the argument that the name was already taken and tell me what about the two games justifies the name football. From what I have seen of American Football (or Yankieball to me) most of the game the ball is not kicked. So what logical reason can be given to explain why this sport is called football? Shouldn't it be throwball, handball or American rugby?
Civman10 Jun 01, 2002, 09:44 AM because American do have a strange grasp of the English language. Amercians call a Toliet 'Bathroom' or even a rest room (what do they sit on a toliet resting, maybe have a sleep on it. 'I am just going to the restroom to rest and sleep for 1 min' ) which has no bath in it, Hamburgers which has no ham in it and football, where they never kick the ball (only on convesions and set plays)
American football or renamed by me American soccer is a crap game. I turned on a game, went out for 4 hours, came back and the game was still playing. Its so boring. the game stops and starts. You have a play, then the game stops, new players are put on, the managers have 5 mins to construct a new play and then it starts again. the game fits american tv because there are so many breaks and thus lots of time for adverts
:lol:
(Sorry if this affends anyone not intended)
Simon Darkshade Jun 01, 2002, 10:16 AM Originally posted by MrPresident
Can someone explain to me how Americans (and to a lesser extent Australians) can call their sport football? Ignore the argument that the name was already taken and tell me what about the two games justifies the name football. From what I have seen of American Football (or Yankieball to me) most of the game the ball is not kicked. So what logical reason can be given to explain why this sport is called football? Shouldn't it be throwball, handball or American rugby?
I do concur that there ain't a lot of kicking in Gridiron.
But there is a lot of kicking in Aussie Rules Football/Australian Football.
Soccer has never had mass popularity here; the crowds are small, and the media attention is extremely brief and minor.
We've had our own game since the 1850s, and the northern states have their rugby union and rugby league.
Soccer, gridiron, rugby, football(as I know it) - they all have very similar and common roots, but developed differently in different places.
And in the end it matters very little. I'll call it what I will, and someone else will call it what they will. And that is that.
And to the little Henrique boy: We prefer to keep our best to ourselves.:p
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