Here is the last batch of Egyptian Units I plan to do,

Egyptian Cuirassier
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6607

Egyptian Cavalry
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6604

Egyptian Musketman
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6606

Egyptian Cannon
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6605

Egyptian Grenadier
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6603

I hope someone will be able to use them. Post if there is anything wrong.
As usually, screenshots are in the link.


I just wanted to announce that I just uploaded four new Egyptian units. They aren’t as flashy as the last two I’m afraid.

Egyptian Crossbowman
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6178

Egyptian (Medjay) Bowman
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6179

Egyptian Pikeman
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6180

Egyptian (Plain) Knight
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6181

Egyptian Longbowman
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6198

Screenshots are in the link. Post if there is anything wrong.

Edit-Added Egyptian Longbowman and updated the Anubis Knight and the Plain Knight and gave them the horse armor provided by Chugginator.

I just wanted to announce that I uploaded two (Yep, only two units this time :mischief:) Egyptian units into the database. They are based on Kal-el’s excellent concept art and requested by Sword Of Geddon. I tried to follow the art as close as I could, but due to lack of skill in modeling and some technical problems exporting whole models into blender and back into nif I was not able to follow them to the exactly.
Anyway, here they are:

Egyptian Anubis Knight
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6144

Egyptian Horus Knight
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6145

Making these units caused me migraines, enjoyable migraines perhaps, but migraines nonetheless. I hope someone well be able to use them and Sword of Geddon likes them. Post and tell me if something is wrong.
Screenshots are in the links as always.

They look cool Bakuel. Nice job.

They remind me of Stargate. Do you think you could manage "unmasked" versions without the ornate headresses?

Making these units caused me migraines, enjoyable migraines perhaps, but migraines nonetheless.

:lol::mwaha: :p Sorry I couldn't help but laugh, I'm in the same boat as you.:p :hammer2:

Excellent units! I like your creativity, what about using WR's egyptian spearman shield:shifty:

They're great :goodjob:

wonderful wonderful! now we need some more historical fantasy units!!! hurra!!!

Thank you for the kind words everybody! :D

@ohcrapitsnico
I can’t take credit for the creative design, the units are based off of Kal-el’s concepts but I did have to try some “creative” techniques to put these units together and let’s leave it at that… :shifty: I didn’t know White Rabbit made shields, I’ll have to hunt the database for those.

@callicles
You can make unmasked versions very easy if you know how to use nifviewer, just delete the new head mesh and resize the head node. You may want to fool around with the dds file too. I would do it and upload it but I don’t want to upload a whole other unit if it’s just a five minute change… I may make a non-mask wearing egyptian knight unit sometime in the future if I get any ideas.

Great! These two units are just amazing. I can't wait to see what you create once an idea hits you.

Can't wait to see these in a BtS-mod. :cooool:

Awesome! Great job, Bakuel.

Cool these came out great! Thanks Bakuel!

Bakuel, the shield I am talking about is in the EDU mod.

@ohcrapitsnico Oh, that explains why I couldn’t find it… :blush:

@Sword_Of_Geddon I’m glad you like them! :D

@NikNaks93 You said in the Mesoamerica thread that if these units were made you would make room for them. Well they are made now. You think they will make it into a Visimod update perhaps? Not trying to push you or anything...

Well, they're definitely going in. I'll code them tomorrow. :D

as far as i can judge by the screenshot, they look great, good work, nice to see some more 3d artists around :) have fun. Blender is a great tool, but the bottelneck really is on the import/export tools :(

They look amazing in-game. I had to re-name a unit class to fit them in, but they're in my mod :D

@seZereth Thanks!
Blender has too many problems in the export/import and 3D max is far too expensive for me. Oh well. I guess that’s just life.
Now that I think about it, there should be more unit makers around here. :hmm: Maybe my memories whacked but I remember this forum was a bit livelier when I was a lurker... My memories probably just whacked.

@NikNaks93 They better look good in the game :mad:j/k. I still have nightmares trying to figure out glossmaps and environmental light.

When you're not an active poster, things move a lot faster (mainly because you don't check as often :lol: )!

I've added you as a team member in the thread. Just so ya know ;)

I went to the liberty of making buttons for these. They're nothing much, but they'll do :D. Feel free to use/ignore/change as you wish.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7246/egyptbuttonspreviewbx7.png (http://imageshack.us)

D/l here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=156026&d=1184752926).

Thanks NikNaks93! :goodjob: I'm going to add them into the main download!
Now that you added me to the Visimod team list I guess it's official, I better hurry up and finish those units then. :)

Yes please! I'm going to make buttons for the units in Visimod, so I'll post them where I need to. I'm working on the Meso-American ones now.
There will be gaps because I don't have all of the units in my mod, but I can make them if requested.

Thanks NikNaks93! :goodjob: I hate making buttons personally. It would be great if you could give them to me after you make them so I could add them to the download, with credits to you of course! The gaps don't matter though, I'm glad to be getting any buttons at all and it would be best to focus on the ones in Visimod. The gaps can be filled whenever.

Cool. I'm doing some atm. Should release later today.

woooow great job Bakuel :goodjob:

I really like those kind of "what if" units, they're going in my mod with your mesoamericans ASAP :D

i have a request, Bakuel :) would you mind making a musketman (and maybe even rifleman) of the same style as these units? that would be awsome!

He's working on other medieval units. Not sure if those are included though.

thats still great... i love Egypt, these units make me want to play Egypt and conquer the world... :)

@Thanks Gedemon! :D

@cybrxkhan
What do mean by same style exactly? Do you mean a musketman wearing an Anubis mask? Or something more generic Egyptian? I actually have no idea what Egypt would look like in the age of enlightment or the industrial age... I'll have to think about that.
This week I was trying to finish off the middle ages though and then I need to tackle five or six units requested by NikNak93 for the Visimod.
But don't worry these aren't the only Egyptian units I plan to make. :)

Hopefully the rest of the middle ages will be posted on Saturday or Sunday.

I can't wait to see your new creations Bakuel. :)

Another thing to think about is egyptian boats. :) I saw some egyptian caravels in the civ III database which were really interesting what ifs. Just a thought no pressure.

General Matts the guy to ask for ships.

General Matts the guy to ask for ships.

Well then lets ask them to put together their unit making skillz for some real egyptian boats.

My skill level with blender isn’t high enough to make really technical 3d models like boats. If I teamed up with General Matt I would hinder rather then help him.;)
Though it would be nice if someone persuaded General Matt to make an Egyptian warship (And more wooden ships in general).

@cybrxkhan
What do mean by same style exactly? Do you mean a musketman wearing an Anubis mask? Or something more generic Egyptian? I actually have no idea what Egypt would look like in the age of enlightment or the industrial age... I'll have to think about that.

i don't care what it looks like! it'll still look great! :) though i think some kind of animal mask would make it look pretty cool still! its still pretty great work!

i think maybe you could make a "Horus" unit, based on the god horus... something like this:

http://ewancient.lysator.liu.se/pic/art/v/i/viklund/horus.jpg


or this...



http://www.cofc.edu/~mccandla/horus.gif


they'd look pretty wicked holding a rifle or machine gun! :D

The heavy footman in the OP is a 'Horus Knight'.

er... heh heh... my bad...

you could have a "Ra Knight", though that would sound kinda lame... "the Knights of Ra", or the "Knights of Seth"... :)

heres a picture of Ra:

http://pronovamusic.com/images/amen_ra.gif


and Seth...

http://hesharudhaze69.tripod.com/seth1.JPG


though i must admit they would look very similar to the Horus and Anubis knights if you made them into units, so... but they'd still look awesome wielding guns! :D

I don’t know if I will make any more god masks, but I’ll think about it.:) I never noticed Horus’s hat before…
The major problem with making Egyptian Musketmen and Riflemen is that I would like them to be somewhat more advanced then the Middle Ages and Ancient era, yet at the same time keep a distinct Nile flavor. I’ll have try to think of some designs for these.

that sounds great! i don't think an Egyptian nuke would be hard to do, though, just paste some hieroglyphics on it...

good work you're doing here! :)

Heres some Egyptian Rifleman concept art I cooked up with my Poser 6 program:

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/?action=view&current=EgyptianGrenadier_0001.jpg

^the guy looks interesting, but i think he has too much a "Western" flair for a pseudo-Egyptian unit. i think he'd make a good steampunk unit, though.

Heres a Egyptian Musketman, also made using Poser:

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/?action=view&current=EgyptianMusketman_0001.jpg

^that guy looks more generic Egyptian in my view... perhaps if you armed him with something that looked like an Ak-47, he'd look like some pseudo-Egyptian marine or guerilla! :)

I think the rifleman looks a bit too European. If I fuse Egypt with any other later era cultures they would probably be Arabic, North African Berbers or Turkic/Ottoman style stuff, they just seem to fit better in my opinon. I have an idea for an Egyptian rifleman now though.
The musketman looks nice. :goodjob: I'll probably use it's general design if you don't mind.

@cybrxkhan What?! You're already planning out the egyptian modern era? :crazyeye:

@cybrxkhan What?! You're already planning out the egyptian modern era? :crazyeye:

:lol: mayube. i'd love to use these kind of units for me... er... personal army. :mwaha:

anyhow, on the rifleman, i think you shouldn't use a Turkish/Arabic styled unit, or else youmight as well make a Turkish/Arabic rifleman, if you get my drift... :)

glad you like my Musketman Bakuel If you need any inspiration let me know I can whip alot of stuff up with my art program.

Those both look great, Sword! I personally don't think the rifleman looks too western - probably it's the boots that are doing it, but altogether it looks appropriate for both the culture and the level of technology. As for later units, such as Infantry or Machinegunner, I think by this level of technology any civ, regardless of culture, will have replaced their more extravagant costumes for a more standardized look.

Good point about later units, sepamu.

Let me explain what I meant… In the world of fashion and it’s history in the old world there are two types of people, those who wear pants and those that don’t. The guys that wear pants usually came from central Asia (Ancient Persians, Germans, Franks, and so on) If you look at their military dress it’s usually more form fitting. Then, there are the poor unenlightened fools who don’t like pants (Arabs, most Africans, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans .etc) their military dress is usually less form fitting and looser (robes, skirts, etc.).
Ok… I’m full of bull.
Anyhow, Ancient Egyptians had loincloths and robes and stuff like that and lived in the desert. I just think their military dress in the 18th-19th centuries would still be kind of loose, similar to the other Middle Eastern nations.

Hows this Bakuel?

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/?action=view&current=EgyptianGrenadier_0001-1.jpg

I already thought of a rifleman design, but I'm going to use some of your two riflemen for grenadiers. At first I thought the design was weird, but it kind of grew on me after the first glance. I don’t mean to be nitpicky, but what threw me off was the chest vest and black boots.
Actually, I just had an idea, could you try giving him back the pants and lengthen the skirt in the back? You know similar to how in civ4 those grenadiers have tails in the back of them? Not as long as the gernadiers of course, it being only a skirt.

Not sure what you mean but I'll try I guess

How is this?

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/?action=view&current=EgyptianGrenadierCivilopedia_0001.jpg

It's no worry, it was just a nit pick. I'm going to use the basic design anyway.:goodjob:

EDIT: Crosspost! Same minute! :woohoo:
As for the image, :goodjob: I like it! I'm going to use this one. The only thing I will change will be the white vest, I'm not going to bug you about that though, because I have no idea what to do with it either.

How is this?

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/?action=view&current=EgyptianGrenadierCivilopedia_0001.jpg

You responded a sec before me lol

for the second try at the rifleman, his shorts need to be longer. ;)

i think it still looks kinda western, but maybe its only because the guy looks caucasoid. i think perhaps the hat should be the kinda hat like in this guy, perhaps the helmet being more solid:

http://www.toysoldiers.com/products-soldiers/images/kingandcountry/ae09.jpg

thinks that looks okay?

Hmmm… That’s a good idea too! Too many choices…
How about I make ten Egyptian riflemen, six grenadiers, and four different cannons and everyone could choose which one suited them best. Everyone is a winner then! :mischief:

It's no worry, it was just a nit pick. I'm going to use the basic design anyway.:goodjob:

EDIT: Crosspost! Same minute! :woohoo:
As for the image, :goodjob: I like it! I'm going to use this one. The only thing I will change will be the white vest, I'm going to bug you about that though, because I have no idea what to do with it either.


Hmmmmm.....maybe turn it gold?

Hmmm… That’s a good idea too! Too many choices…
How about I make ten Egyptian riflemen, six grenadiers, and four different cannons and everyone could choose which one suited them best. Everyone is a winner then! :mischief:

maybe a variety of them would be awesome, if you're up to it!!!! :) then we can have a Euro-supported Egypto faction and the traditional noble Egyptian faction fighting for their lives! that'd be awesome! :D

Maybe…. I have no idea, but it’ll be at least about two weeks before I get to these Egyptian units so it’s no real hurry.
Oh yes, in that quote I meant to say “I’m not going to bug you about that though”, just to make sure you knew. :)

@ cybrxkhan
What have I signed myself up for? :sad: ;)
I could do two rifleman designs, though there are many other flavor units in the world that NikNak93 wants me to work on for the Visimod other then Egypt, so it's all based on how much time I have. Heh, I was originally just going to do a medival era and leave it at that. Silly me.

I just loaded up four more egyptian units, feel free to criticize.

The new units you uploaded are great. Thanks for the unmasked knight, too. I never was much of a stargate fan.

As for the discussion of Musketman, Grenadier, and Rifleman... I echo Bakuel's commentary about pants v. tunics. In Rome, at least, they considered it a really big deal that the Parthians wore pants and not tunics. Also, I believe that the cisalpine gauls were sometimes referred to as the gallia togata because they wore togas like proper phil-hellenes, not pants like those transalpine gauls on the far side of the mountains.

The fact of the matter is that its very difficult to imagine what egyptian culture, if active and alive, would be like had the Egyptians not been first conquered by the Persians and subsequently by the Macedonians. It's even more difficult to imagine them without Christian, Arab, and Muslim influences (because, at least the Macedonian Ptolemies tried to assimilate and become Egyptian instead of making the Egyptians into hellenes).

Likewise, I think Bakuel is right to try and identify those aspects of Egyptian culture that are most distinctly Egyptian and superimpose those ontop of more modern cultural traditions.

The Arabs, in game, retain much of the Beduin style of dress throughout the game. The Persians, are distincly un-persian for most of the game, and quickly become Arab-Iranians. Contrarily, the Carthagenians retain their Hellenistic-Mediterranean feel and never resort to the Morroccan-Berber-Tunisian-Arabic influences we see in North Africa today. Likewise, the Carthagenians, in game, feel more Greek than Punic.

Compare this with the Americans. If we follow the Egyptian example, at least as they are represented in game, the Americans in the Ancient, Classical, and Medieval eras should be, as far as unit art, similar to Native American Tribes and then transform into European style units during the Renaissance. Obviously, this is not the case. Flavor unit creators have, instead, decided to make American flavor units akin to European and English units until the Industrial Age. The flavor units track the people, not the location.

The opposite is true of the Persians and Egyptians. There, flavor unit creators tend to track the locations and not the people. Thus, medieval and renaissance Egyptians and Persians look more Arab than Egyptian or Persian.

The medieval period saw an expansion of armored soldiers. The weapons and style of fighting saw a progression of military advances and led to more heavily protected soldiers (the traditional armored knight is a good example). However, with the development of gunpowder, quite obviously, this armor became obsolete.

The big question, then, is this: after the use of heavy armor faded away, would early-modern Egyptians and Persians resort to their earlier style of dress, or adopt new ones?

I think the answer will and would come from the social and environmental utility of the clothing. Arab clothing is long and flowing to shield from the heat and the sun. But such a style of clothing is based on hundreds of years of nomadic shepherding where individuals were exposed to the elements and burning sun.

What would the Nile style of living be like? It was always more urban than the surrounding civilizations. What impact would that have, if any? The elements would be less of a problem. Instead, disease (like malaria) and the heat would be the major hinderance.

In the end, perhaps your imagination is as good as mine.

I think the knight looks good, will probably use him (perhaps the horse could have armour as well so you can tell it's meant to replace the knight and not the horseman) :) The crossbowman is also good.

I'm not sure about the black archer (doesn't suit other Egyptian units) ... and the pikeman needs a screenshot!

@callicles
Thanks! I’m glad you like the unmasked Knight. On the pants thing, I once read that the early robe wearing Chinese warriors used Chariots, after the introduction of horseback riding the Chinese warriors had to develop (that is to say borrow from Northern and Central Asian tribes) trousers in order to ride the horses comfortable. The Egyptian’s clothing might have developed similar; their warriors at the least have to develop pants. I just think that they would have worn a loose robe/pants combo like these guys,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/The_sortie_of_Messologhi_by_Theodore_Vryzakis.jpg
Perhaps some just wearing robes and short leggings so the knee down is bare. Of course I’m just talking about the robe/pants and how they fit together; I’m not going to make Turkish/Greek soldiers of the 19th century. Honestly.

Thanks Chugginator!
I’ll see to that armored horse, that’s a good idea and would make the guy look more medieval. About the Nubian bowman, originally there was going to be a normal Egyptian bowman too, this guy was more of a bonus unit I was making since the Egyptian were always employing Nubian archers. Sadly enough, while I was trying to finalize a design on the Egyptian bowman (black wig or cloth headdress thing?) for the update though, I got side tracked thinking about Egyptian rifleman. Since I said I would update today I just uploaded the finished units. Hopefully I’ll finish it some other time.

Added the missing pikeman screenshots!Sorry about that! It was 2:00 AM and I just wanted to go to bed, give me a break. :p The pikeman is loosely based on Kal-el's concept art.

Do you have BtS? There are some really cool armoured horses in the Charlemagne scenario. I can PM one to you if you don't have it yet.

Also I just remembered that an Egyptian archer came with Warlords anyway, so you can choose between the Nubian one or the Egyptian one :) I completely forgot about it before.

I live in the States, so I don't BtS have it yet. It would be great if you could PM a horse to me. :D Of course I would reskin it and rebone it to the companion cavalry animations before I upload it so I don't think I would be breaking any rules. :mischief:

I forgot there was an Egyptian Archer, is there a longbowman too? I should check my files again.

@ Bakuel

I didn't mean to say that the Egyptians wouldn't be wearing pants, I'm just curious about whether they would be using the double-breasted, wide lapelled, tailed suit coats of European armies.

A google image search for "jannissary" has a lot of paintings that might be good models for your designs. Keep up the great work.

I think there's just the archer. I sent you the pm, also the armour on the horse is a separate mesh so it should be a lot easier just to move it on your horse than re-boning :)

@callicles I'm just glad someone supports my middle eastern robe/loose pants design.:)

A thousand thanks Chugginator! :worship: It's like a little piece of BtS before I can get my grubby hands on a copy, though it makes the wait even harder...

I'll get to work on the armored horse.

Cool. Could you do the same armoured horse for the Anubis knight?

That's a good idea! :) I'll see if I can do that too.

Brilliant! Any plans for other units?

if you ever move on to the Native Americans heres a unit lineup: http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/?action=view&current=Iroquois_Lineup.jpg

the new units look wicked! generic Egyptian, but thats fine. i think now for the gun units the hat should be Egypto-ish, maybe the rest of the uniform can be different, but i wouold see the hat as being pseudo-Egyptian...

but nice job anuyhow! wish i had time and the will to make some along with these! :goodjob:

The new units look great! I like the knight. Although, I don't know if Companion Cavalry animations is the best pick - those sickle things look more like a slashing weapon then a stabbing one.

And I'm looking forward to the armor too! :goodjob:

Thanks cybrxkhan! Don’t worry about the rifleman, when you look at him you will think, “Aha, an Egyptian rifleman.” Or maybe not that exactly, but something very similar I hope. The unit will look very Egyptian and have an egyptian hat.
You should learn how to make units too if you get the time. It’s not exactly hard or complicated, just time consuming.

@Sword_Of_Geddon
They look nice, the only thing that would probably change very much in them would be the medieval units will get some type of armor so they can go up against the old world iron/steel armor units. Since I’m helping with the Visimod it’s really up to Niknak93 what culture will get flavor units next after Egypt. But I’ll keep these in mind, I’m sure we will get to Native America someday.

As Native America has a fair few flavour units in BtS, we'll leave it for later. ;)

You should learn how to make units too if you get the time. It’s not exactly hard or complicated, just time consuming.

no, im just kind of lazy sometimes. and my schedule is very unstable, so... :D

i'll be looking forward to the rifleman, then... and perhaps the marines and paratroopers and what not? :)

EDIT:

I also have a question for those who already have BtS: what kind of ethnical flavored units does Egypt share with? do they share with the mediteranean civs like the Romans, or with the Persian ones, or the arabic ones, or what? :)

Thanks cybrxkhan! Don’t worry about the rifleman, when you look at him you will think, “Aha, an Egyptian rifleman.” Or maybe not that exactly, but something very similar I hope. The unit will look very Egyptian and have an egyptian hat.
You should learn how to make units too if you get the time. It’s not exactly hard or complicated, just time consuming.

@Sword_Of_Geddon
They look nice, the only thing that would probably change very much in them would be the medieval units will get some type of armor so they can go up against the old world iron/steel armor units. Since I’m helping with the Visimod it’s really up to Niknak93 what culture will get flavor units next after Egypt. But I’ll keep these in mind, I’m sure we will get to Native America someday.


Khmer could use flavor actually, and it will be hard getting pictures of their units at least concept art. But theres a few I can give you when the time comes.

the Khmer units couold be simply a generic Southeast Asian units. then, for example, their Marines could look liek VietCong.

Come to think of it, I don't know of any south-east asian units in the DB at all...

^there is a VietCong and Khmer Ph'kak (pikeman) unit, if i remember correctly.

I remember the Ph'kak now. Could you link to the VietCong for me?

^well, here ya go. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=205827

Ah thanks! That makes a total of 3 (including the Khmer UU). Could become a priority...

Don't worry we will sort this out with Bakuel. I know of a few pictures.

I love South East Asia stuff! Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Cambodia and… and… that other nation that I always forget about… V something. I do remember a few people from there worshiped their food though. Pretty frightening if you think about it. :mischief:

I don’t know much about what type of military styles South East Asia has though, and the only thing I know about Khmer military comes from some stone wall carvings. If you have any good pics Sword could you post them? It’s never to early to start laying out unit sets. I already have some other culture sets laid out that I haven't even touched and probably won't for a while now. It makes the creation much easier and insures that they all look at least somewhat differently. And I just want to see some Khmer warriors. :)

the Khmer units couold be simply a generic Southeast Asian units. then, for example, their Marines could look liek VietCong.

i made a machine gunner based on Gedemon's unit here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5592) that is wearing the "black pajamas".....i am quite frustrated right now :mad: I am seeing such cool units and concepts but I wont be home for another 2 weeks :sad:

about the egyptian headgear, i was actually at the metropolitan museum of art today, and i saw interesting headgear, kinda looks like a bowling pin....

Khmer Warriors and other Southeast ASian Warriors:

Horseman:

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1141_face.jpg

Spearman:

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1143_face.jpg

Swordsman:

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1145_face.jpg

Archer:

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1146_face.jpg

Pikeman:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/thaifighter.jpg

Knight:

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1638_face.jpg

Crossbowman:

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1640_face.jpg

Maceman(Sword Guy, either keep the sword or give him a mace) and Longbowman:

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/Sword_of_Geddon/th_GoldenWarriors.jpg

For the axeman you could copy the style of the Pikeman or Maceman(Golden Warrior) and give him the Axe.

Thanks for the pictures Sword of Geddon! :goodjob: Now I have practically all of East Asia laid out more or less! Where do you find these pictures from anyway? Not that anyone every reveals their best sources on the internet. :mischief: I don’t know when Niknaks93 wants to do South East Asia but at least now I’ll be ready. I personally hope it’s soon though, the armor on that golden archer and swordsman looks like it’ll be fun to try to make… :)

Khmer is officially next on the list! As soon as Egypt is done, on to these units. It's up to you whether to use the concept art or not ;)

Im glad I finally got the man himself's opinion. Go here for lots of art: http://www.dbaol.com/armies.htm thats where I got a few of the pictures from.

Hey Sword, I would have responded yesterday but, truth be known I had just gotten my hands on a long awaited book and I had to finish it in a day. :mischief:
Thanks for the link!:D
If Khmer's next then I better focus on finishing off egypt!

I updated the first post with the longbow man and the armored horse versions of the two horse knights.

I like the horse armor. And the hair on the longbowman looks very good :goodjob:

Thanks sepamu92!:) I was actually pretty surprised that the hair turned out looking that nice.

Your units are all fantastic Bakuel. Remember theres already a Swordsman, Spearman and an Axeman out there so you don't have to do them.

Thanks for the kind words Sword!
Heh, funny you should say that... I was actually half way through making a spearman until I was reminded about some of White Rabbit's stuff... I should take swordsman off my list too.

Whats left? The Musketman and Gunpowder units I think?

That's about it I think, expect some of them on the weekend hopefully.

The knight looks great! and I like the new head for the longbowman.

Very nice units. :) I am sorry I did not look before!

Re: To My name being mentioned in conjunction with "More" and "Wooden Ships".

Yeah, I plan o getting to that someday, I have just been lazy of late, maybe this waiting for BTS has done something to me. :p

@GeneralMatt
Thanks for the kind words! I don't mean to bug you about ships, but you’re the only person who makes boats and the era of sail is often neglected. I'm glad that you plan to make some more wooden ships. :)

@Chugginator
I'm glad you're satisfied with how the armor turned out.:) A question about the Heavy Knight you gave me, it had a some type of flag skin thingy on it's shield. I would guess this means that the civ who controls the unit's flag emblem shows up here? Is this an old skinning ability that was already there or is it a new ability for BtS units?

It's some special thing for the Charlemagne scenario. I think it's a new ability, haven't really looked into it though.

i have seen these units in nif viewer for first time today and they r some of the most beautiful units that i have seen

I just wanted to announce I updated the first page with five more units, probably the last Egyptian stuff that I'll make in a while.
Check them out and post and tell me what you like, don't like and so on.

Excellent, they're all great :goodjob:

Great work Bakuel you should be proud of yourself.

Thanks for the kind words guys!:D

Indeed, they are very well done. You did so much better than just giving a musket to an ancient guy, you made it look more like a realistic evolution in armor and uniforms. Great job all around. You've earned a much deserved break, but I can't wait to see your next creations, no matter the civilization.

very excellent! though they still resemble European units, its not to the point in which they are pretty much European, so good job!

You did so much better than just giving a musket to an ancient guy

i actually think that would be cool :)

I’m glad you guys like them! :D
It’s hard thinking up alternative “modern” units without them looking a bit European or Ottoman since there is no way of knowing how Egyptian fashion would evolve… Also there is the problem that many people’s idea of modern is European dress and styles. If you do think up “modern” Egyptian units that don’t take hints from European dress for example, many people won’t be able to recognize that it’s suppose to be modern or an “advanced age”.
@ cybrxkhan
I don't mean to bug but, one day you really should learn to make units. I'm really curious about your design ideas for Egyptian units... :)

TOP NOTCH!!!!!! ditto on callicles comment. i was using "arab"-like units for the later generation egyptians but these really give true flavor...AWESOME

@ cybrxkhan
I don't mean to bug but, one day you really should learn to make units. I'm really curious about your design ideas for Egyptian units... :)

:lol: i like, er, "leeching" off people like you. :p

Great new units, Bakuel! I can't believe I wasn't here to see them ;)