I opened this thread to discuss our phoenatican written and spoken language.

It also contains a reference for written phoenatikááns and the coresponding dialects in this post.

rule summary (up for discussion):
Version 1.2 of 26.05.2002

phoenatikáánz
english phoenatikáán
a á
c k (if sounding like k)
c z (if sounding like s)
f ph
s z
th d
z x
-er -r
-se -z
-ums -ra
' <leave it out>

additional changes for dialects:

ameri dialect
english phoenatikáán
a o
e u

new cormyr dialect
english phoenatikáán
The Ze
C K (only capital C)
c c (only little c)
specialties:
* accents are added at random intervals
* repeated letters: w instead of first letter
* phoenetic to a fault


The phoenatikáán language is for use only in the citizen forum! The official language will still be english!

juzt bekauz non-phoenatikánz otherwiz will not underzstand our phora!

And beware! There may be dialects in our provinces! Submission of a dialect is up to the governor of the province and can be changed at will!

i would first propose using:
z instead of s
and ph instead of f

juzt phor phun.

and maybe "D" inztead of "TH", like Diz.


Zo dat would be interezting wouldn't it...

we should also leave out the 's.
and maybe implement some fancy accents, like á for a single a...

Diz would be á nice ding, wouldnt it?

Zo why don't we do diz? It is a phun idea to do. or a k phor a c dat sounds like a k. and a z phor a c dat zoundz like a s and leave oph da e. Like diz:
GPH went diz way zo he could get to his palaz cause it is kool. der he had phun playing Ziv3 on a komputer and talked to a person named kris.

Zo in our new language der would be no S, C, TH, or F

or anything that zoundz like A we use A or U we use U or O we use O and E we use E and I we use I

i dink de ophicial language zhould ztill be englizh, dough

Originally posted by disorganizer
i dink de ophicial language zhould ztill be englizh, dough

Eller svenska kanske?

and z will become x:

crazy=craxy

Originally posted by Major Geuvara


Eller svenska kanske? Ja svenska borde vara huvudspråket...

Dat iz zo true...

How bout we change the A's to, B's, B's to C's and so on and so forth so then it will be like this:

Uijt ht uif nptu dpogvtfhoh mbohvbhf fwfs!

i think we leave striders proposal out. it should stay speakable and readble

yex it xhould

Whatever you guys decide upon, just be sure to not use it outside the Democracy Game Forums. :cool:

we should change all word ending in "-ums"(="-umz") to ending in "-ra",

like:
phorumz will become phora!

dat iz zo kool. da phoenatika phora

oh dear this is growing complicated. Why not just a use a nice simple cipher. So much easier.

i will update the ruleset in the first post
curufinwe: cipher? explain

Originally posted by curufinwe
oh dear this is growing complicated. Why not just a use a nice simple cipher. So much easier.

This is how we all get taught German! :)

I most spell my name: Krábápple:D

provinces will be:
Iztár
Ámeri
Normándy
Ázphinxiá
New Kormyr

Originally posted by disorganizer
i will update the ruleset in the first post
curufinwe: cipher? explain

A cipher is something where letters are exchanged for other letters. S doqazr pmr zolr yjod. That was where all of the letters were exchanged for the one on their right on the keyboard. But you're idea would most certainly work, I'm just a lover of cryptology and cryptanalysis.

Hehe. I think I may be too old to learn a new language, but I will try.

i also propose:
è for e
ö for o
î for i

This will make our Provinces to:
Îztár
Ámerî
Nörmándy
Ázphînxîá
Nèw Körmyr

And our Country to:
Phöènátîkán

Is this too much? I think yes. Should we leave it as proposed in the first Post?

How do u type those accenty thingies on a normal English keyboard?? I think it's a cool idea!

Originally posted by disorganizer
i also propose:
ö for o


Can you pronounce ö?. In my experiance english talking people have quite hard to pronounce........wait! youre only gonna write it anyway. Damn im stupid!

Originally posted by Zur
How do u type those accenty thingies on a normal English keyboard?? I think it's a cool idea!
Hold <ALT> and enter a 4 digit code on the numeric keypad, ie:

0244 = ô

You can find out what the codes are by looking at the "Character Map" Windows utility. If you're using a non MS operating system then I really don't know where you'd find them out, sorry!

Ja, wir haben keine Bananen!
Pass auf!
Ein Amerikaner ist es, und er kann die "o-umlaut" (ö) sprechen!
Ja, ich spreche Deutsch schlecht, aber ich bin nur am Anfang im Deutsche Eins.


Owway, izday izay eallyray upidztay. Anday ataboutwhay eezday ingiezday? Îây îndîtfây ârdhây öötây öntinuöuslycây ypetây eezdây îngîezdây îthöutwây ettingây eryvây upsetay!

Bah! Screw it all! ;)

Hold <ALT> and enter a 4 digit code on the numeric keypad, ie:

0244 = ô

You can find out what the codes are by looking at the "Character Map" Windows utility.


hmm, tried it in notepad & the forum but that didn't work. Is this for Windows 2000? The Character Map program gives the characters but doesn't seem to have the mapping of the <ALT> shortcut keys for it. Dragging & dropping each character is a bit troublesome.

I am here to present the Amerian dialect. :)

english phoenatican
a o
e u
c k (if sounding like k)
c z (if sounding like s)
f ph
s z
th d
z x
-er -r
-se -z
-ums -ra
' <leave it out>

Zo now 'Ameri' is Omuri in the Omurian diolukd!

Ond I zoll bu known oz Pluxuz!

maybe someone can setup a website with a translation-program? you should be able to:
type english or phoenatican/dialect and get a translated result. phoenatican and dialects should be selectable for translation.

Ze Nu Kôrmyr Diylect:
It invôlveš awl ov ze gloruz things in ze Nurmawl linguo and adds a flavor uv iz oune.

The is always Ze
Capital C - K
Little c- c
accents are added at random intervals
Phoenetic to a fault
whenever a letter is repeated a w is there instead of the first letter

How bout we change all the A's to ae's? and all the b's to be's?and all the bye's to bie's? And why were at it let's go on and shot each other. :ripper: :rocket2: :rocket: :rocket3: :ak47: :sniper: :slay: :shotgun: :suicide: :ar15:

Hard day at work, Strider?