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I don't care if they only were a country for a little over 1 month. I thought it would be cool to do a civ after my home state.

Leader: Governor Johnson
New leader image: Yes (Republic Flag)
Capital: Sacremento
Special Unit: Californio (2.4.2 +enslavement ability)
New unit animations: No (Musketman)
Civ Abilities: Commercial and Agricultural
New Civilopedia Entries: Yes

[c3c] http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/plxcaliforniamaod3Qv.1.zip

Well, any suggestions?

seems fine

How about adding Sutter as a leader? Also, why does the Californio only have a defense of 2? Just curious.

Yea, sutter is a good idea, I messed up, it is 3.4.2 not 3.2.4. :)

I have to say, that living in the actual town of Sonoma, i must DL this mod.. and may i just add that the "Bear Flag Rebellion" in reality isn't as nearly as cool as they told us it was in grade school...

good work!

Changes in Version 1.02
-Cities: 'Eureka' added
-Leaders: 'Sutter' (man responsible for goldrush) added

You can downlaod it at the top of the page

Reagan's a great leader? What'd he ever do for California as Governer?

Originally posted by Hygro
Reagan's a great leader? What'd he ever do for California as Governer?

I gotta echo that one. Maybe you can replace him with Mario Savio (leader of the Free Speech Movement).

I'm just wondering if it includes a new figurehead?

@Hygro/macman- He reformed California's welfare system, and decreased government involvement in the Californian economy, leading to growth. If you want to change it, be my guest.

@Mart- Nope, it uses the Lincoln leaderhead. Maybe if I get interested in this project again, it will, but not now...

when i saw this i thought you ment the New Californian Republic from Fallout 2 :D

lol, no... but that sure would be cool! :)

I was born in California, and I still live in California, in fact.. I live in the San Fransisco Bay Area.

It'd be much more accurate to place Eureka as capital of California. You might want to add Vallejo to the leader list as well. Sonoma was a small farming community and had no seat in any pre-California Unionization government. It was important though.

You might want to add Vallejo to the leader list as well.

Vallejo helped California out, true ... but wasn't he Mexican?

i'm from California too, and i never knew that we were independant. well if we were today, the USA would have invaded is because we have oil

Sacremento is the CA capital, not Sonoma. you're mod is cool.
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Reagan did a lot of stuff, but all of it was badfirst of all, he bankrupted our schools so that now they suck, and he did a lot of things that have no good purpose that only ULTRA-conservative idiots want. its an insult to our state to call him a "great" leader. we did elect him as govorner, though.
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Sonoma was the capital for a short time, it's the place that the Republic was declared

Originally posted by jamesjkirk
Sonoma was the capital for a short time, it's the place that the Republic was declared
that makes sense. but i never knew it was independant, but now i know.
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A couple of suggestions to make it more realistic.
1. Mod workers so they can't cut down forest.
2. Add a new resource called spotted owls. They appear with ecology and if any are in your 21 tile city radius the city is autorazed. :p

Is Bakersfield included as one of the cities?

Californio should be a replacement for Rifleman, and Infantry should have 2 movement (troops are in better physical shape now-a-days, they use Jeeps, ect.) otherwise it would get slower as it upgrades.
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The California Republic was only in Northern California (Bay Area and above). Bakersfield was under Mexican control at the time the California Republic exhisted.

If you really think about it, The California Republic still exhists today. On the Californian flag it says the Republic of California. In fact, it is joined to the United States. So in reality, most or maybe even every state is it's own country but it is just in a union like the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union consisted of Russia and all those countries, while the United States consist of Washington D.C and 50 states. Heh..

Mobilize, until the civil war most states were more or less their own countries. However now I would say we are one country with oversized supercounties.

Yeah, I know.. I was planning on saying that but I forgot.

we are one country, but each state does have it's own military, plus a national military. then again, if California wasn't so rich, we might be at Civil War with the USA(i'd take up arms aganst the rebels, even though i hate George Bush), since the rest of the country is so d*** conservative and we actually care about the enviroment (whats that? says George Bush. I've never heard of the word you call "enviroment").
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regardless of my political oppinions, I have a feeling that's not a real quote ;)

Same here, and speak for your self, sims. I am very much a republican.

The fact is that out of all the states in out Federal Republic, California is the closest to being its own independant nation. California has the fifth largest economy in the world and the sixth largest army in the world (counting the California National Gaurd). We are also the only state to have our own representative to foreign nations, independant of the State Department, and a miniture department of homeland security independant of the Feds. With control of over 50% of the US imports through our major ports and a much better world image than the rest of the US, California is very capable of becoming its own independant nation. If you are interested head over to my line of California Secessionist clothing at http://www.cafeshops.com/calisecede :)

Well California could be its own nation (just as Plexus has done for us), but I'm happy with being able to vote for our Eastern Neighbor's President.

Originally posted by sims2789
we are one country, but each state does have it's own military, plus a national military. then again, if California wasn't so rich, we might be at Civil War with the USA(i'd take up arms aganst the rebels, even though i hate George Bush), since the rest of the country is so d*** conservative and we actually care about the enviroment (whats that? says George Bush. I've never heard of the word you call "enviroment").

hey, anybody can think what they want to. that's whats great about our country(the USA). what i mean is that i would attack the California Rebels, thereby helping the United States.
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Well I wouldn't fight. I'm a pacifist. Anyway, Plexus, what leaderhead do you use?

Hey, California hasn't had the 5th largest economy in the world since the 70's. China, Japan, the U.K., Canada, Italy, Germany, and France all have larger economies. And Russia too if you include all the money that the Russian mafia doesn't report for the GDP.

Perhaps the leader should be Zorro! That show took place in California in the 1830's. Ha ha! Or maybe John C. Fremont, who overthrew the Mexican government of California.

I like the mod because if it makes Texas mad because they know they're wrong(again) it must be good.

California has the 7th largest economy, the leader is Fremont, and I'm currently using Lincoln as the lederhead.

I am contemplating a PTW-ification of this mod, what do you guys think?

Yeah, you can also make it where the budget deficit is greater than that of Romania. Maybe start out 35 billion in the hole. HA.

Attach are some cali flag leaderhead, kinds of like the conquests scenarios. you can save the image as a pcx as Ca_All or something if you want this to display in F4 diplomacy screen. I may finish up the Flag FLC one day.

Well this a simplified Flag flc. I wanted to do the waving design like some in conquests. But this one is real plain and like the one above

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This is NOT the place to discuss real-world partisan politics! Ekmek, there is no need to drag up a fairly dead argument here. If you people insist, I will delete all the non-mod posts in this thread. :mad:

I have my HS History Gov teacher on tape saying that we should sink California into Pacific a la Superman (Spilting the fault line)...

And I have to agree... In theory... Save the tech guys!

Just so I don't start some War... I'm not serious... in theory.

just because we are the REAL dairy state :)

May I suggest having the traits be agricultural and commercial with conquests out?

good suggestion, it beats religious and militaristic ;)

Alright, I'll update this. Perhaps I'll even edit out my partisan politics. ;)

Here's the leaderhead:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/leaderheadpalgif.gif

Being a SoCal kid, I plan to play this one. Meaning, I don't know anything about this mod, yet. But if you are using a map of the US and if Cali goes to war with, say Arizona/Nevada/ Colorodo/Oregon, where would we get our fresh water? And what would happen to my beloved LA?;)

BTW, have you ever seen those old, b&w photos of Arizona's mobilized national guards patrolling their border with Cali to protest construction of Parker Dam and Cali's diverting of water from Colorodo River (1935)? There's even one with the guardsmen standing around one of those old Civil War era snub-nosed mortar cannons. HAHAHA. I wonder who would have spanked who if Cali ever went to war with Zona? Just kidding.;)

(I'm sorry, I checked the internet but couldn't find any of these photos to amuse you.)

NEW CIV: CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC

Leader: Governor Johnson
New leader image: Yes (Republic Flag)
Capital: Sacremento
Special Unit: Californio (2.4.2 +enslavement ability)
New unit animations: No (Musketman)
Civ Abilities: Commercial and Agricultural
New Civilopedia Entries: Yes

[c3c] http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads6/plxcaliforniamaod3Qv.1.zip

thanks!

first of all, i´m from europe. i just found this thread, and i would like to ask if anyone of you knows the novel "ecotopia", the author is ernest callenbach. he describes (like the famous novel "utopia"...) an ecological state, which is composed of california, oregon and washington. perhaps an inspiration for you californian modmakers :-)

another question: what about the western states in the civil war?
i know that california became member of the us in 1850. was it of less importance because of almost no population, were they neutral? i´m asking that, ´cause i´m working on a "the world in 1863" scenario, and the western north america is empty until now.

and a funny link

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end.php

IRC, California had one regiment with the Union... do a google on California Military or California State Reserve and there is also a web for California Military Museum...

I'd post them but right now its Friday night and we're gonna let it all hang out.


PS perhaps the hunter/pioneer unit from Steph's cossacks conversion or the minuteman unit could serve as the Californo.

PSS Patton should be a California Great Leader. Yeah he was US in WW2, but he is a Californian... born in San Gabriel, CA 11 Nov 1885 (veterans day no less)

AND James Doolittle

between Smirnoff Ices (start up)


good links

http://www.shgcities.com/ca/people/

Military museum

http://www.militarymuseum.org/

What do you all think about making the Californio into a cavalry unit? The Californios were all ranchers anyways, and it seems kinda weird for California's unique unit to be so early historiclly in the tech tree. Here are some pics:

http://www.museumca.org/picturethis/images/1_0/1_4_1_c.jpg
http://history.sandiego.edu/cdr2/corps/pics/u00907a.jpg

Perhaps a unit maker would be willing to make this unit.

The leader must be ARNOLD!
and when he's furious and u demand stuff he should say, Consider yourself, terminated.

Utahjazz7"s Villista could serve as a good Californio



www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Villista.zip

I like this mod, because if it makes Texans mad it must be good!

Reagan did a lot of stuff, but all of it was badfirst of all, he bankrupted our schools so that now they suck, and he did a lot of things that have no good purpose that only ULTRA-conservative idiots want. its an insult to our state to call him a "great" leader. we did elect him as govorner, though.

I agree fully. I might take a look at this new civilization tommorro. I am actually making a scenario which involves California exiting from the United States somewhere in the 2010s with Tom Delay as the President of the United States. BOT, this sounds great; California rocks!