Lord you guys got beyond the sword a few days now and have yet to release any screenshots? whats wrong with you guys.

Show me what darius is like, DAMN.

at the top of the page in the thread labled BTS Screenshots Repository, lots of scrennshots.

I do not currently have access to a computer with BTS on it (or Civ4 at all for that matter), but I did post 7 screens of advanced starts earlier. Check those out. They are in the Repository.

sorry, i checked the main gallery before the one posted above.

Darius I of Persia

pretty cool looking, although I know no persian that even comes close to looking like him (I'm Iranian). But still looks good, very noble looking.


Believe or not, cyrus looked very persian. A lot like my grandfather.

"Ruling Persia during the first century...", according to the background.

uhhh alright

pretty cool looking, although I know no persian that even comes close to looking like him (I'm Iranian). But still looks good, very noble looking.


Believe or not, cyrus looked very persian. A lot like my grandfather.

I like the way he looks and I'm loving the Persian units and how they speak. I think it's Parsi?

yeah but the current term is farsi, parsi has lots of indian connections too it.

The farsi in the game is exact even in the tone of how they say it. It's perfect.

pretty cool looking, although I know no persian that even comes close to looking like him (I'm Iranian). But still looks good, very noble looking.


Believe or not, cyrus looked very persian. A lot like my grandfather.

AFAIK, Persian/Aryan people looked very different than their contemporary counterparts, being that the present-day Iranian population has been infused with Turkic blood over the centuries.

the post above is just an ignorant statement.
Iran has many different regions just like the United States holding many different minorites and races. Europe if anything would have more turkish blood.

This guys is a perfect example of socialization and phenomenology. Stop making statements that have sketchy sources. YOU ARE NOT A SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

by the way, dont use the word aryan, that word went out of fashion long ago. Iranian is just as respectable as the word aryan. It lost meaning in WWII.

The Persians declared themselves Iranian before even being seen as a persian nation.


See kids, goto college, take an anthropology class before going into "racial facts". This is 2007 people.

To be fair it's not implausible to say that ancient persians looked different from their modern descendants. I mean, modern Italians don't look a lot like ancient Romans. The Turks were an Asian tribe (who were originally Buddhist, by the way) until they intermarried with Anatolians.

I personally don't like the Darius leaderhead, I think he's too dark for a Persian. But maybe that's just me.

Anaoshak.... you have taken a really unnecessary tone in this thread and would do well to avail yourself of all the information first, not a glance at wikipedia then demand others study anthropology, not demand others source their facts then make statements without legitimacy! :rolleyes:

In order to legitimise myself prior to being taken to toll by a wikipedite, I have a BSc in Anthopology and a BA in Ancient History. That's not to imply that I am a source of legitimate facts, but rather that I am very much aware of current terminology used in Anthropology.

The term "Aryan" (from Sanskrit for "lordly") is still used in modern anthropology to denote proto Indo-European/Indo-Iranian tribes with the same linguistic roots.... of which the subgroup Iranian is one of the longest surviving.

I have declared again and again that if I say Aryans, I mean neither blood nor bones, nor hair nor skull; I mean simply those who speak an Aryan language… To me an ethnologist who speaks of Aryan race, Aryan blood, Aryan eyes and hair, is as great a sinner as a linguist who speaks of a dolichocephalic dictionary or a brachycephalic grammar.

Just because the term was used with a negative connotation (and connected with ethnicity instead) to support Nazism, doesn't suddenly make its use wrong. If anything, it seems to be you who has mistaken the proper use of it.

Perhaps the term has changed in Iranian anthropology, but decrying people's use of it in English is irrelevant and wrong. Furthermore, educating by example rather than by criticism is infinitely preferable.

Hahahah, I learned that Aryans were tall, blond people with blue eyes and the reason why Hitler wanted to conquer Iceland = ignorance ;)

Sweet Lord!
THAT is Persian leader?:rolleyes:
If not for Civilopedia text, I'd think that Bast accidentally posted a frame from "Planet of Apes". Please compare, it is a striking resemblance!
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0133152/Apes2001_13.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0133152&seq=2
...or even better:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0133152/fcs_j23_2_001.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0133152&seq=6

Why would somebody give Darius such helluva ugly face?

Hahahah, I learned that Aryans were tall, blond people with blue eyes and the reason why Hitler wanted to conquer Iceland = ignorance ;)

Hitler press-ganged so many ancient ideas, myths and traditions to support the otherwise weak foundations of his philosophy.... well, to be fair, it wasn't really Hitler - it was many of the German philosophers of the time who had spent years slowly converting history into a "white" version (Check out "Black Athena for a great source on this).

It's no coincidence that Hitler chose a swastika, named his people after the legendary invasion of ancient India, Middle East and Europe and spent considerable resources looking for the Holy Grail and Atlantis. He was desperate to give credence to his misunderstandings of Aryans as some kind of master race and searched high and low for historical and archaeological evidence to support his theories.

The word Aryan it outdated , thats a fact. I use to throw that word around all the time.. in highschool.

Sorry guy, but you don't know anything about my Iranian background. So don't know tell me how it is.

Also if an anthropologist uses the word for a linguistic, that doesnt mean he/she uses it racially.

the post above is just an ignorant statement.
Iran has many different regions just like the United States holding many different minorites and races. Europe if anything would have more turkish blood.

This guys is a perfect example of socialization and phenomenology. Stop making statements that have sketchy sources. YOU ARE NOT A SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

LOL look everybody, a troll. :lol:

I dont really see how hes trolling anymore than the previous post. This is the post he was reply to

"AFAIK, Persian/Aryan people looked very different than their contemporary counterparts, being that the present-day Iranian population has been infused with Turkic blood over the centuries."

This is a pretty sweeping generalization.

the way anaoshak responsed was a bit childish but the first part of his reply seems reasonable ->

"the post above is just an ignorant statement.
Iran has many different regions just like the United States holding many different minorites and races. "

What this means I dont know ->

"Europe if anything would have more turkish blood."

but I take it anaoshak doesnt like turkish people

LOL look everybody, a troll. :lol:



As a Scandinavian I am offended by your usage of the word "troll". Being a Scandinavian myself I demand that you respect my authority in regards to everything of Scandinavian origin such as the word "troll".;)

:joke:

The word Aryan it outdated , thats a fact. I use to throw that word around all the time.. in highschool.

Um.... ok so it's not in fashion for you.... that means the rest of the world has to stop using the term? Sorry, you are mistaken.

Sorry guy, but you don't know anything about my Iranian background. So don't know tell me how it is.

I made no comment whatsoever on your Iranian background.... all I said is that is possible that in Iranian anthropological circles the term "aryan" is no longer used, that cannot possibly be construed as making a comment about your personal upbringing..... you are either misreading by mistake or intentionally.... perhaps you are just looking to flame someone - you seem to have jumped down everyone's throat so far.

Also if an anthropologist uses the word for a linguistic, that doesnt mean he/she uses it racially.

That's because (and I will stress this again because I am not sure that you read my post) the term IS NOT RACIAL... it has nothing to do with ethnicity, it is regarding linguistic families. It's only Hitler/Nazi/German Nationalist philosophers who used the term to connotate a racial meaning. The term "aryan" is properly a synonym in the English language to encompass the Indo-Iranian linguistic family..... and that actually IS a fact! ;)

"Ruling Persia during the first century...", according to the background.


That is true though, "the first century" can refer to the 1st century of the Achaemenid empire.

I agree with what you are saying Spearthrower, but i should tell you that Aryan is still used among iranians as a race in history that inhabited the Iranian Plateau of which modern Persians are descendants.

anaoshak does not know what he's talking about, since the word has a very big place in our history it will never be erased or forotten. We even have popular first names such as Aria or Arian. The word "Iran" actually means "land of the aryans" in old persian.

I agree with what you are saying Spearthrower, but i should tell you that Aryan is still used among iranians as a race in history that inhabited the Iranian Plateau of which modern Persians are descendants.

anaoshak does not know what he's talking about, since the word has a very big place in our history it will never be erased or forotten. We even have popular first names such as Aria or Arian. The word "Iran" actually means "land of the aryans" in old persian.

Thanks koolrosh, that makes a lot of sense and fits better with my understanding of it all.

That is again where the linguistic connection comes in with "Land of the Aryans".

Cheers
Spear

Now THAT'S a troll "of the blood" :lol: ;)


As a Scandinavian I am offended by your usage of the word "troll". Being a Scandinavian myself I demand that you respect my authority in regards to everything of Scandinavian origin such as the word "troll".;)

:joke:

Now THAT'S a troll "of the blood" :lol: ;)

Thank you, I know that my comment was a bit trollish in itself, but considering some earlier content of this thread I'm not too ashamed about it.

:D

I used to think Suryavarman looked like an alien, but that award definitely goes to Darius.