Playing a game with Gilgamesh. He's pleased with me, and when I ask him "can you spare this for a good friend" his refusal animation is hilarious... grabs you and shakes you (ie, the "camera" jerks around and he gets super close and shakes is head).

I'd hate to see him furious...

He's sooooooooooo cool and I love the diplo music.
Defiantly the coolest leader.
Historically inaccurate, but cool. And that's bad. :(

:lol:

I got to try this... :goodjob:

The new leaderheads are really good. I wish all of them were like that.

I wanna see , please give us a screenshot .

The new leaderheads are really good. I wish all of them were like that.

Download the Final Frontier demo - all leaderhead are there ( and diplo music). Then replace the files and change names of the existing leaders or just install them through xml if you know how. It is not difficult anyway.

I wanna see , please give us a screenshot .

Here you go:

Yeah the first time I saw it I really laughed. The animations for the new leaders are great - Joao takes forever to notice you.

He's sooooooooooo cool and I love the diplo music.
Defiantly the coolest leader.
Historically inaccurate, but cool. And that's bad. :(Who the heck knows if his leaderhead is historically inaccurate? He lived 4600 years ago, and historians only recently agreed he lived at all, let alone what he looked like! And besides, if you're 2/3rds god, I bet you can look however you feel like ... always wondered: how exactly do you get to be two THIRDS divine? I can see half quarter, eight, etc, but a third? They must made babies a different way back then :p

I haven't seen it yet, but I bet the whole shaking of the camera thing is a reference to the Epic of Gilgamesh, where he fights Enkidu in these tremendous battles, and the ground shakes, etc ...

Inaccurate because his life is shrouded in myth and he never ruled an actual empire, he was only the king of Uruk.
Sargon would have been a better choice if they wanted to be accurate.

Sargon wasn't sumerian ( like firaxis cared about these details ... :lol: )

By the way in the game Gilgamesh seems to be quite a nice guy and not really the warmonger you would expect him to be from the way he looks.

LOL!!! I noticed that last night with the camera shake. Its freaking great. It suprises the crap out of you the first time he does it. Classic!

Actually Abe doesn't look at the camera for what seems like a very long time. I even like the look on his face when he is "Asking for help".

I would like to see all the old leader heads up to snuff with the new ones.

Actually Abe doesn't look at the camera for what seems like a very long time. I even like the look on his face when he is "Asking for help".

I would like to see all the old leader heads up to snuff with the new ones.that sounds like a nice touch too. Abe had a "wandering eye," forget the medical condition but it gave him all sorts of problems.

I wish I could see this all for myself! Still waiting :(

GoodSarmation: and somehow we would know exactly how Sargon looked & acted?

Personally I'm glad they focused on well known leaders. My 9yo son is as eager for BTS as I am, and I have used these games to successfully get him into reading more. He read & learned an incredible amount about mythology when he started playing Age of Mythology when he was seven. I already have the children's illustrated edition of Epic of Gilgamesh trilogy in preparation :)

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Quest-Gilgamesh-Trilogy/dp/0887763804

Inaccurate because his life is shrouded in myth and he never ruled an actual empire, he was only the king of Uruk.
Sargon would have been a better choice if they wanted to be accurate.

Precisely. ;)

I said this before, but he looks like "The Face of Boe" from "Doctor Who".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_of_Boe

It's not about his behavior or looks, it's about his very existance.
I don't really mind.
I am happy he's in the game (I have read the Epic of Gilgamesh some years ago and enjoyed it very much) and he looks great, but from a historical point of view he is as good a choice as King Arthur of the English or Romulus of the Romans.

Gilgamesh sounds alot to me like the Sumerian version of hercules...

Sargon wasn't sumerian ( like firaxis cared about these details ... :lol: )

As far as I know the term Sumerian doesn't describe a state or empire but rather a culture, and the Akkadian Empire founded by Sargon was Sumerian .
It is like Greece in the game.
The Greeks never had a real Greek empire before they were united by Alexander who was a Macedon king. Still we have a Greek empire in CIV, led by Alexander.

Btw: Somewhere on this forum there is a thread with old artwork and you can see that the Sumerian (or was it called Akkadian?) empire was considered for vanilla CIV and the leader was Sargon.

you aren't the first to notice TheLastOne

Gilgamesh sounds alot to me like the Sumerian version of hercules...

I think the proper way to say it would be "Hercules is the Greek version of Gilgamesh" :D

It's not about his behavior or looks, it's about his very existance.
I don't really mind.
I am happy he's in the game (I have read the Epic of Gilgamesh some years ago and enjoyed it very much) and he looks great, but from a historical point of view he is as good a choice as King Arthur of the English or Romulus of the Romans.Actually I think most historians today are willing to concede he actually might have existed, given that they have found evidence for others mentioned in the Epic. Throughout history everyone thought Homer's stories had no basis in fact until Schliemann found Troy (and later Agamemnon's death mask, etc). And of course the "fables" of Herodotus are turning out to have a lot more to them than even he imagined. He apologized for writing them down when he had no proof they were true, but thank god he did.

IMO opinion Gilgamesh is in a totally different historical category than Arthur or Romulus & Remus

Still he was the king of a city-state and not the leader of an empire.
It is an inaccuracy but not a big issue.
After all we have Frederick for Germany.

Still he was the king of a city-state and not the leader of an empire.
It is an inaccuracy but not a big issue.
After all we have Frederick for Germany.

And Pericles for Greece.

Still he was the king of a city-state and not the leader of an empire.
It is an inaccuracy but not a big issue.
After all we have Frederick for Germany.

And George Washington leading the Americans in 4000 bc :p

They chose leaders that are iconic of their cultures, not necessarily emperors and whatnot. Gilgamesh is iconic of Sumerian culture, he is their greatest hero and was probably a real king. It makes sense to have them be led by him.

As far as I know the term Sumerian doesn't describe a state or empire but rather a culture, and the Akkadian Empire founded by Sargon was Sumerian .
It is like Greece in the game.
The Greeks never had a real Greek empire before they were united by Alexander who was a Macedon king. Still we have a Greek empire in CIV, led by Alexander.

Exactly what I meant. And I would add: Napoleon was Corsican and not French, Catherine was German ( technically she was HRE born :p ), Stalin was Georgian, Churchill was American (-born), Isabella was Castillian.... Not exactly correct in Historical terms, but well, its a game... not the Enciclopedia Britannica

I said this before, but he looks like "The Face of Boe" from "Doctor Who".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_of_Boe
Nah, John Barrowman would never let himself get that wrinkly :P

I was hoping they'd add something to Catherine's animation after i accept a deal as she says "i always look for a CLOSER relationshp w/other leaders if you catch my drift".....although that may boost the game's rating to M.

I almost jumped out of my chair and screamed like a little girl, when Gilgamesh shook the camera. Well, "almost". :) Mulcarn in AoI is even worse.
But I also get the twitch when playing any FPS.

Some of the new animations are quite nice in BtS. Blind Pericles with his helm on or the wandering eye of Lincoln are just fun to watch.