The techs available for research are:
Economics: First receives a GM, Enables Free Market
Scientific Method: Reveals Oil, Obsoletes Great Library, Monastery.
Engineering: Pikeman, Castle, Hagia Sophia, +1 road movement
Drama: Theatre, Globe Theatre, Can adjust culture rate
Constitution: Jail
Gunpowder: Musketman
Theology: Sistine Chapel, Enables Theocracy
Music: Cathedral, Norte Dame, Can build culture
Replaceable parts: Lumbermill, Windmill/Watermill: +1 Hammer
(thanks, mike)

The tech being researched right now is Constitution, then we will research Democracy (As per the recent tech poll), and then Replaceable Parts (Probably engineering too) unless a viable military threat emerges, at which point we will pursue either Military Tradition or Rifling (Decided by a poll).

If you have any questions, suggestions, requests, or anything else, post them here.

Hi good to see someone new participating.

How about Replaceable Parts to boost production?

I'm not sure, I looked through the cities and there doesn't seem to be too much dependency on mills, is there some sort of plan set to build more, or would it just benefit what's already there for the time being?

Watermills and windmills also help food.
And do not forget of lumbermills, the best to keep forests.

Best regards,

Alright then.
I'll add it after democracy, unless you feel it's really urgent.

Replaceable parts would be good, because it would allow for rifling, but i agree it is not urgent

I'd take Military Tradition, Music, Gunpowder instead of Replaceable Parts, but we'll see what to do when we get there.

Some of my cities have many forests which could be improved by lumbermills to boost production.

Yes, put it after Democracy.

I usually do RP at this point to get lumbermills, then head for railroads to add another hammer per lumbermill, quarry, and mine.

If we discuss a path like this with its benefits, we'll be better informed.

We have basically agreed on (pending poll): Liberalism - Astronomy - Nationalism - Constitution - Democracy

Possibly followed by:
Music - Gunpowder - Military Tradition
Engineering - Gunpowder - Chemistry
Replaceable Parts - Gunpowder - Rifling
Replaceable Parts - Engineering - Gunpowder - Chemistry - Steam Power - Steel - Railroads

Liberalism -> Astronomy has already been polled, and the Democracy beeline has been quasi-approved in another poll, if you feel it's absolutely necessary, or if feels strongly about not researching that, then we can always poll, otherwise, I don't see the point.

After we finish Democracy (or decide not to, if that becomes the case), we can poll for the next line of techs.

I like the beeline to Democracy.
Just have to ask, mostly to Warlord: continental war/s with current types
of units is it ok?
Best regards,

I'm glad to see the beeline for democracy is still being supported, hopefully we'll be the first to grab liberalism, but if those dastardly Incas do manage to grab it before we do shall we continue with the research on Astronomy, or move to the democracy beeline immediately. Personally I'm in favor of going for Democracy first, but I don't know how strongly others may feel about getting Astronomy, free or otherwise.

I'm not sure, yet, that we've agreed to still go for democracy given the changed circumstances. I would prefer to see an analysis of replaceable parts first vs democracy first, including all aspects not just specialists, before finally deciding.

Replaceable parts' urgency is up to the governor, seeing as RP is primarily an improvement tech, and leads to another improvement tech (Steam Power).
If we find that the Inca are a viable military threat, or that they would be hard to conquer should the need arise, then we'd research gunpowder or military tradition before RP anyway, so it's really just up to the governors.

Replaceable is a better tech than democracy for me, the latter has only the Liberty-statue; the former has lumbermills my favorite production, also on hills because you get the health-point as addition.

I would like Liberalism - Democracy - Replaceable Parts.

We are already owning the AI militarily on our continent.

I'm sticking with the democracy beeline.
18 free specialists with representation would pretty much make up for whatever time is lost on democracy and then some.
Of course, we still have to see what situation the Inca are, militarily, before we can set up a long term research plan, so this could all be temporary.

I would throw in engineering much sooner. The double speed on roads, pikemen and other variables are what we need in the war against Germany/Rome.

we double our redeployment time of infantry, workers move quicker from one project to another and finally engineering makes sense at this point.

I can put it after astronomy, but do we really need it to win the war, or is it just a luxury to make it easier?

We need the wars to go quicker to end war weariness, that and make the workers operate faster to build up our economy and infrastructure.

Quicker redeployment of troops also enables us to build more buildings, as the same troops can be used more than before.

One needs to think several dimensions to see this.

For quick wars you need adequate troops - both in number and in skills.

You are stating the obvious Hyro. Engineering means the double utilization of any unit.

Your like the e to the mc squared sir, your like a clock speed double micro chip, your number 1 in science!

You are stating the obvious Hyro. Engineering means the double utilization of any unit.
Nothing wrong with that, I think. Especially since I think the units we need aren't available yet.

We are almost there, except for the catapults already requested. Now, the next challenge would be to move these around the map, at half speed or normal speed (with engineering).

Alright, point made, Engineering isn't too expensive (only 1K beakers), I'll put it after astronomy.

Good move, I think.

Best regards,

Alright, point made, Engineering isn't too expensive (only 1K beakers), I'll put it after astronomy.

I'd still prefer Democracy over engineering. We don't need engineering, it's just a luxury.

Get engineering now, will make our wars smoother, will make the workers faster.

I was right on astronomy, I am also right on engineering. Then, the other guys can get their "democracy".

Should we be having the discussion over in the citizens forum? Not a problem to keep it here, but some folks will be looking there instead of here.

[leading question mode ]We have at least 3 different opinions, so what method will be used to resolve that? [/leading question mode]

We could do the standard tech poll or we could do it the way that Provolution always wanted to do it, only poll those paths which have been requested. Those should be done only after a citizen's discussion (ironic, I am a citizen), if possible, but don't forget to have the poll's minimum 2 day length at least.

don't forget to update the tech list

Next TC will see Constitution->Democracy?

Yep.
Posting instructions now.

What happened to engineering? "What happened to citizens input"? I observe we are getting two tiers of "citizens input" here.

What happened to engineering? "What happened to citizens input"? I observe we are getting two tiers of "citizens input" here.
Maybe it's a case for the Supreme Court but I think we were just ignored.

Well, I am making this a CC, and a big one, if we are not treated right.
No wonder people are being aggressive if they are unrightfully ignored.