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Welcome to the Department of Culture! This is the official thread to discuss any suggestions for improving and spreading the culture of our great nation!



The link for the 2nd term's thread is here. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21637)

Thanks again to Cyc for the Culture Portrait, on loan from our Cultural Museum!

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The Republic of Phoenatica
Culture Report 1130 AD

As we begin our third term of Government, the culture of Phoenatica continues to thrive. We have only one city without culture (Chondote), which recently joined our nation because of our high culture. We will work to see our culture develop soon there. Also, we continue to promote the growth of culture along our southern border, to entice the Roman and Greek cities to join our glorious nation! Also, we should celebrate the fact that PDX has reached the 1000 point mark, and Pherris will next turn!!

City Culture Rating Improvements
Fox Nes 3174 39 Palace*, Temple*, Library*, Cathedral
University, Great Library*, Heroic Epic*
Washington 623 8 Library*, Temple
Thebes 250 5 Library, Temple
Memphis 216 3 Library
New York 351 5 Library, Temple
Eyr 372 5 Library, Temple
Hieropolis 135 3 Library
Boston 359 5 Library, Temple
Shailonegha 652 4 Temple*
Elephantine 105 3 Library
Philadelphia 397 9 Library, Temple, University
Khatovar 731 11 Library, Temple, Sistine Chapel
PDX 1080 14 Temple*, Library, Cathedral, University
Atlanta 111 3 Library
Alexandria 165 5 Library, Temple
Chicago 249 3 Library
Tlaxcala 68 5 Library, Temple
Seattle 93 3 Library
Pherris 999 15 Library*, Temple, Cathedral, University
Malinalco 182 3 Library
San Fran. 117 3 Library
Byblos 105 3 Library
Civanatoria 671 8 Library*, Temple
El Amarna 120 3 Library
Miami 269 5 Library, Temple
Abydos 165 3 Library
New Falcon 357 9 Library, Temple, University
Justinian 237 9 Library, J.S.Bach’s
Macao 205 5 Library, Temple
Chie 281 5 Library, Temple
Anyang 21 3 Library
Port Gisnod 171 3 Library
Asyut 171 5 Library, Temple
Lutetia 241 9 Library, Temple, University
Callisto 151 5 Library, Temple
New CAP City 65 5 Library, Temple

*Has reached the 1,000 year bonus

Total Culture: 13632
Culture Growth: 236/turn

Justus, can you use that Apollo program to figure out when our cultural victory will occur?

Justus, as a lover of cultural, and with what I believe to be a bit of wisdom and intelligence, I'd love to represent you in the turn chat's in the event that you and Punkbass are missing. What would you think of that?

Justus, curufinwe, I was just listening to our councilmember at large, Rain, recite a war song (I think it is), Road to Moscow, and it gave me an idea. We should gather our bards and musicians to write songs for our great nation! Songs about the war epic at Justinian, our national anthem, and the other greats in our nation.

Very good, or perhaps poetry. We should do someting to represent our culture, writing things to store in our libraries (most interesting) and having University threads to teach others ona ll topics, I'd love that last one, as my favourite thing to do is to teachothers my rather siginficant knowledge stores.

curufinwe, I would appreciate the help as a chat rep. I will be on the road for the next two weeks, so I will have difficulty making chats, and could use the assistance. I will post your name on the official turn chat roster.

Infinite Thanks, I'll be most pleased to serve you, But I'll of course keep all limits and try to do exactly what you would in the event. Of course the precence of Punkbass would nullify my benefits (I'd hope so, he's a lot better than I)

Until we decide on our new turn chat schedule, I am going to post some proposals for cultural improvements over the next few turns. First, I think we need a library in Chondote, since it is our only city without culture. I have asked the acting governor (from the domestic department) to change the queue to library, so we could rush it. After that, I would like to develop a list of cities in our Cultural Assault Program that need temples, universities, etc. so we can prioritize what to rush. I am open to suggestions, and then we can put together a proposal for a poll.

Do you not have the constitional right to over ride the governor's queue seeing as that city does not control it's full 21 tiles radius. Only with War mobilization, or a time of invasion, should you be able to be over-ridden.

I've checked the constitution and I'm right, go ahead and it will be perfectly legal to over ride it unless we declare war and are invaded (where Military Head may change queues and is higher in COC than you are) or War mobilization (where Military Head is equivalent to president and is very influential)

Originally posted by Chieftess
Justus, curufinwe, I was just listening to our councilmember at large, Rain, recite a war song (I think it is), Road to Moscow, and it gave me an idea. We should gather our bards and musicians to write songs for our great nation! Songs about the war epic at Justinian, our national anthem, and the other greats in our nation.

Good idea! And, you know, the Culture Club would be a great place to post those :D

or make a new thread: the PMT, the "Phoenatican Music Thread".

A song about the Valiant Immortals who sacrificed their lives to make us a world power.

To the tune of Sponge Bob Square Pants:

Oh, if you made Phoenatica a world power what would ya' be?
I-mm-ortals
If killin' Americans be somethin' you wish,
I-mm-ortals
Then head to PDX and swing a big stick,

I-mm-ortals, I-mm-ortals, I-mm-ortals
I-mm-ooorrrtallsss
Do Do Do Du Do Du Whoop

Sorry, I've been watching a lot of Nickelodeon lately.

Maybe we should spawn this thing to another thread because this is definitely not the right place for it.

Nope it isn't. :D, I guess I'll do it if no one else wants to.

Here it is... (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23936)

Justus and Punkbass (numbers at end are peripheral) perhaps we should delay further action of the Cultural Assault Program seeing as we are producing very little gold and putting it all into research. When Thebes finishes it's Forbidden Palace the increased gold and research should allow us to lower research levels and maintain similar amounts of research. Therefore by far increased gold per turn, thus enabling the Cultural Assault Program to continue. We would give the gold given to us for others to use (we need a lot of upgrades) or just store it for when we get Wall Street. What do you think of my plan? Also, when are we building Wall STreet, because that gold is needed ASAP.

I know it sounds like heresy, but what do you think?

It may be a good idea, as money is tight at the moment. Wall Street will begin construction soon, but we need a fifth bank first (which will be completed in a few turns, IIRC).

We lost control of a gems deposit during the last round because of the expansion of Greek boundaries near Txacala (sp?). What plan might help us gain it back? Txcala is just over the 100 expansion limit & won't be expanding until it hits 1000.

As a result, our citizens are without gems until we stop trading them away to Inida.

Chief, if we overcome their culture, we will regain the tiles whether we expand or not, so we must try to allocate funds to the rushing of a University, but we have not those funds, but when we overcome their culture, I'm more than certain we regain those tiles.

What about ironwerks? I really hope it is able to be built in my province!

Oh yes, we shall know if that's possible very quickly, it will be most nice to find if the answer is yes, but it is probably no.

Justus Type report here, filling in for Justus and Punkbass:
City Culture CPT Buildings
Fox Nest 3564 39 Palace 2pt, Temple 4pt, Library 6 pt Cathedral 3pt University 4pt Great Library 12pt Heroic Epic 8pt

Washington 703 8 Temple 2pt Library 6pt
Thebes 300 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Memphis 246 3 Library 3 pt
New York 416 8 Temple 2pt Library 3pt Cathedral 3pt
Eyr 422 5 Temple 2pt library 3pt
Heliopolis 165 3 Library 3pt
Boston 415 8 Temple 2pt Library 6pt
Shailonegha 608 7 Temple 4pt Library 3pt
Elephantine 145 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Philadelphia 387 9 Temple 2pt Library 3pt University 4pt
Khatovar 847 14 Temple 2pt Library 6pt Sistine Chapel 6pt
PDX 1276 22 Temple 4pt Library 3pt Cathedral 3pt Shakespeares 8pt
Atlanta 141 3 Library 3pt
Alexandria 215 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Chicago 285 6 Library 6pt
Tlaxcala 118 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Seattle 123 3 Library
Pherris 1149 15 Temple 2pt Library 6pt Cath 3pt University 4pt
malinalco 235 8 Temple 2pt Library 3pt Cathedral 3pt
San Francisco 147 3 Library 3pt
Byblos 137 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Civanatoria 751 8 Temple 2pt Library 6pt
El-AMarna 150 3 Library 3pt
Miami 319 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Abydos 195 3 Library 3pt
New Falcon's Haven 447 9 Temple 2pt Library 3pt University 4pt
Justinian 327 9 Library 3pt Johann Sebastian Bach's Cathedral 6pt
Macao 255 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Chie 331 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt
Chondote 0 0 No culture buildings constructed
ANyang 51 3 Library 3pt
Port Gisnod 201 3 library 3pt
Asyut 221 5 Library 3pt Temple 2pt
Lutetia 331 9 Temple 2pt Library 3pt University 4pt
Callisto 201 5 TEmple 2pt Library 3pt
Plexia 115 5 Temple 2pt Library 3pt

100,000 culture points in 1985, culture win never, 1 city win never yet

How much more Culture rushing are you planning. Cause I feel I need more money to update our Military, we've got 27 pikemen in the era of Cavalry for goodness sake.

Hard to say, as much as is neccesary, when Forbidden palace comes this should decrease since the places can build it on their own, but if you declare war and take more cities then we shall have more culture rushing. Also, when Wall Street, Smiths, and Forbidden palace come there will be a lot of gold, so do not worry, we shall build factories to build new military.

Plus, many banks shall come, making even more money, we shall not be in want for long.

This is a reminder too all cabinet members and governers to post their turn chat instructions here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23980) for tonight's turn chat, if you haven't done so already.

Sorry everyone, this course has been taking way too much time these first few days, especially tonight, I have a presentation due tomorrow (that I should be working on now). I should have some more time again tomorrow or Friday. A couple of quick comments - Cultural Assault Program should be ok to continue building at the cities own pace for now, the main improvments are in place (library/temple) in the southern border cities, and they can build univ. as their production permits, while still generating culture. The only rush I would call urgent is the Library at Chondote, since it has NO culture, we don't want it to flip back. Tlaxcala would be next, but probably too expensive to rush right now, especially in our finanacial situation, maybe next chat.

(BTW, I know that there is a chat tonight, I hope it is going well, but I don't have my laptop set up for MIRC, and can't really download it now. Hopefullly, I will be set up by this weekend).

PB and I've done well, we've rushed that library already (I believe so) turn to finish, I'd be happy to do another summary in your stead, gold little tight with military consuming gobs but we'll get a bit now and then. Overall pretty good Hierarch Justus.

We can build the Ironworks in Civanatoria! :)

We can! Really! I'll check that while I'm doing culture report

All we need is a road!

Yes, what a wonderful day.

Here's the report Lib=Libary Temp=Temple Uni=university Cath=Cathedral. I'd like to say that we know have a library in every last city, so we have a source of books everywhere.
Culture Per Turn Buildings
Fox Nest 3813 42 Lib 528 Temp 618 Cath 216 Uni 180
Valhall 751 8 Lib 591/6 Temp 160/2
Thebes Data Flawed, most sorry, shall update later
Memphis 264 3 Lib 264/3
New York 464 8 Lib 273/3 Temp. 158/2 Cath.33/3
Eyr 452 5 Lib 282/3Temp 170/2
Heliopolis 183 3 Lib 183/3
Boston 463 8 Lib 321/6 Temp 170/2
Shailonegha 650 7 Lib 241/3 Temp.626/4
Elephantine 175 5 Lib 153/3 Temp. 22/2
Philadelphia 553 12 Lib 363/6 Temp.130/2 Uni 120/4
Khatovar 937 17 Lib 321/6 Temple (in 150's)/2 Cath 6/3 Sistine Chapel 456/6
PDX 1414 25 Lib 294/6 Temple 618/4 Cath 198/3 Uni.200/4
Atlanta 159 3 Lib 159/3
Alexandria 245 5 Lib 183/3 Temp.62/2
Chicago 321 6 Lib 321/6
Cyrus (Tlaxcala) 148 5 Lib 102/3 Temp. 46/2
Seattle 141 3 Lib 141/3
Pherris 1239 15 lib 750/6 Temp.150/2 Cath. 271/3 168/4
Malinalco 283 8 Lib 168/3 Temp. 94/2 Cath. 21/3
San Francisco 167 5 Lib 165/3 Temp 2/2
Byblos 167 5 Lib 153/3 Temp. 14/2
Civanatoria 799 8 Lib 663/6 TEmp. 136/2
El-Amarna 168 3 Lib 168/3
Miami 349 5 lib 237/3 Temp.112/2
Abydos 213 3 Lib 213/3
New Falcon's Haven 501 9 Lib 285/3 Temp. 48/2 Uni. 168/4
Justinian 381 9 Lib 171/3 J.S.Bach's Cathedral 210/6
Macao 285 5 Lib 183/3 Temp. 102/2
Chie 361 5 Lib 231/2 Temp 130/2
Chondote 15 2 Lib 15/3
Anyang 69 3 Lib 69/3
Port gisnod 219 3 Lib 219/3
Asyut 267 9 Lib 171/3 Temp. 80/2 Uni. 16/4
Lutetia 385 9 Lib 219/3 Temp. 78/2 Uni 58/4
Callisto 231 5 Lib 183/3 Temp. 38/2
Plexia 145 5 Lib 93/3 52/2

Justus or PB, do to the fact that we have a library in every city I believe that we should know finish up and add a temple to every last one, also, although we will have 100,000 culture points in the late 1900's, we shan't win a cultural victory because we wouldn't fulfill the requirement of having more than double of all elses, thus we need a lot of cultural improvements. Universities cost 396 after 1 sheild has been built, so we must wait for a long time before we can rush these due to the fact that our budget shan't be able to allow it. We are facing a dilema and I regret to say that a cultural victory shall more than likely be impossible, and we must find another way, or we put this forward to the citizens and we might be able to approve of a way to find the adequate cultural improvements and budget.

Mr. Pb, while Justus is away (I've no idea when he returns) may i continue to do those reports, I thouroughly enjoy them and would be overjoyed to continue them, what say you?

2 suggestions for the Culture Dept. Just trying to help a little :)

- Rush money needs to be approved by the Domestic dept. so make any specific requests in the budget thread well before turn time so they can be seen. Specific requests are better than suggestions and might be better targetted at governors. If approved, the governors can just put them in their instructions queues, saving you some work.

- use the CODE tag in your tables so that they are more readable. It changes your text to an "even-spacing" font (forget what it is called). Here's an example. To see the code at work, hit the "quote" response button on my post. I find it best to write out a table using notepad and then paste it into my replies. After that, add the text formatting (bold, italics...) cause it doesn't affect the spacing. Good luck.

City Cult Per Build C Build C Build C Build C
Fox Nest 3813 42 Lib 528 Temp 618 Cath 216 Uni 180
Valhall 751 8 Lib 591/6 Temp 160/2

Great Thanks and I shall be sure to use that from now on.

Originally posted by curufinwe
Mr. Pb, while Justus is away (I've no idea when he returns) may i continue to do those reports, I thouroughly enjoy them and would be overjoyed to continue them, what say you?

Be my guest.

I shall post it in about 16-18 hours.

The President's office urges the Culture Ministry to lobby the domestic leader for CAP funding. This vital program has fallen by the wayside!
We are also ninth in literacy! We must balance our industrialization with more learning!

I shall lobby him during the chats, the only place I've the authority to, and I really want a University in Cyrus, only 240 gold if we switch and rush right now. I shall try what Chiefpaco told me, hopefully it works

City Cult Per Turn Lib Temple University Cathedral
Fox Nest 4191 42 582/6 178/2 216/4 243/3
Valhall 823 8 645/6 108/2
Thebes 401 5 267/3 108/2
Memphis 305 5 291/3 142
NewYork 575 15 303/6 176/2 36/4 60/3
Eyr 518 8 330/6 188/2
Heliopolis 224 5 210/3 14/2
Boston 535 8 375/6 60/2
Shailonegha 713 7 51/3 662/4
Elephantine 220 5 180/3 40/2
Philadelphia 661 12 357(?)/6 148/2 156/4
Khatovar 1098 21 375/6 172/2 8/4 33/3
PDX 1639 25 248/6 654/4 236/2 225/3
Atlanta 186 3 186/3
ALexandria 290 210/3 80/2
Chicago 375 6 375/6
Cyrus 193 5 129/3 64/2
Seattle 168 3 168/3
Pherris 1390 17 804/6 168/2 204/4 198/3
Malinalco 355 8 195/6 12/2
SanFrancisco 212 5 192/3 20/2
Byblos 212 5 180/3 32/2
Civanatoria 871 8 717/6 154/2
El-Amarna 211 5 195/3 16/2
Miami 394 5 264/3 130/2
Abydos 246 5 240/3 6/2
NewFalcon'sHaven 609 12 339/6 66/2 204/4
Justinian 462 9 198/3
Macao 336 8 210/3 120/2 NoUniversity 6/3
Chie 406 5 258/3 145/2
Chondote 42 3 423
ANyang 96 3 96/3
PortGisnod 246 3 246/3
Asyut 348 9 198/3 98/2 52/4
Lutetia 466 9 246/3 96/2 124/4
Callisto 276 5 210/3 66/2
Plexia 190 5 120/3 70/2


Great Library of Fox Nest 1398/12
Adam Smith's Trading Company of Fox Nest 42/3
Forbidden Palace of Thebes 26/2
Shakespeares Theater of PDX 176/8
Wall Street of Pherris /2
J. S. Bach's Cathedral of Justinian 264/6
Sistine Chapel of Khatovar 510/6

Originally posted by curufinwe
I shall lobby him during the chats, the only place I've the authority to, and I really want a University in Cyrus, only 240 gold if we switch and rush right now. I shall try what Chiefpaco told me, hopefully it works


I would prefer you lobby me on the forum.:) I do not like making spur of the moment decisions regarding large expenditures.

Originally posted by curufinwe
I shall lobby him during the chats, the only place I've the authority to

As a citizen you have every right to lobby any government official right here in the forums!:)

Sorry to confuse you, curufinwe. You can do the summary table anyway you want. I only suggested the code tag so that you can also space your text so that it appears in columns, kinda like what i had. If you want to use it, go for it. If not, thats ok.

The most effective place to lobby is the forum. Start a thread on it or make a proposal if you are a culture rep (not sure who has the power now). Or, lobby Punkbass to start one to gain support. If the culture dept wants 240 for a University, make a request in the budget thread. What I think people don't want is the chat room to ever be the platform for Department Leaders. There, only some people have a say on the game.

PB, I don't think the turn instructions thread is for proposals. I think it is a quick reference for the results of forum proposals and debate so that the player can easily complete the preturn quickly. For example, your cultural recommendations might be suited for specific governors or the general public to overturn their build queues. Right now, the player might not listen to your recommendations and the governor might not see them.

I post suggestions because I can not make decisions for culture on the forum, so I suggest things to Pb, who has the power for the time that Justus is gone. Also, Chiefpaco, I've written it to go in columns now (I've not much idea of how it works, but learning) and it won't, any help to offer, if so, enlighten me.

The NSD has a proposal for the culture department. We ask that if you rush/build in CAP cities to build universities. Here is a list of the current cities without universities.

The one's with the * next to them are along the greek bordor.

Here's a list:
Fox Nest: Both
Valhall:Library
Thebe's:Library
Memphis:Library
New York: Library
Eyr: Library
*Heliopolis:Library
Boston:Library
Shailonegha:Library
*Elephantine: Library
Philadelphia: Both
Khatovar:Both
PDX:Both
Alanta:Library
*Alexandria:Library
Chicago:Library
*Cyrus:Library
Seattle:Library
Pherris:Both
Malinalco:Library
San Francisco:Library
Byblos:Library
Civanatoria:Library
El-Amarna:Library
Miami:Library
Abydos:Library
New Falcon's Haven:Both
Justinian:Library
Macao:Library
Chie:Library
*Chondote:Library
Anyang:Library
Port Gisnod:Library
Asyut:Both
Luteetia:Both
Callisto:Library
Plexia:Library

I would appreciate it if the department of culture would post specific requests for gold for rushes in the budget thread or post specific discussions regarding rush builds in the citizens forum.

Originally posted by eyrei
I would appreciate it if the department of culture would post specific requests for gold for rushes in the budget thread or post specific discussions regarding rush builds in the citizens forum.

Yes, I second this call for specific requests and would like to point out that during the last turn chat we were upgrading pikemen @ 100 gold/unit because there were no other requests!

Here is the post. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=324207#post324207)

CAP must be revitalized! The war torn people of Oka and Hieraconpolis cry out to Phoenatica and it is our destiny to answe their call!

I would like to point out some possibilities to the Culture Ministry:

Abydos: university would cost 288 gold now (cost shrinks by 20 g/t)
Memphis: university would cost 192 (shrinks by 28 g/t)
Alexandria: university would cost 236 (shrinks by 24 g/t)
Elephantine: university would cost 244 gold or can be built in 5 turns
Justinian: university would cost 136 (shrinks by 16 g/t)
Macao can build a university in 15 turns.

Some of these would require build queue changes. While the Culture Ministry may not be able to over-ride these queues it may well be possible to convince the appropriate governors to make the changes themselves especially is CAP funds could be secured to rush the project.

Here is the thread to make specific budget requests. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21947&pagenumber=5)

Originally posted by donsig


Yes, I second this call for specific requests and would like to point out that during the last turn chat we were upgrading pikemen @ 100 gold/unit because there were no other requests!

Here is the post. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=324207#post324207)

CAP must be revitalized! The war torn people of Oka and Hieraconpolis cry out to Phoenatica and it is our destiny to answe their call!

I would like to point out some possibilities to the Culture Ministry:

Abydos: university would cost 288 gold now (cost shrinks by 20 g/t)
Memphis: university would cost 192 (shrinks by 28 g/t)
Alexandria: university would cost 236 (shrinks by 24 g/t)
Elephantine: university would cost 244 gold or can be built in 5 turns
Justinian: university would cost 136 (shrinks by 16 g/t)
Macao can build a university in 15 turns.

Some of these would require build queue changes. While the Culture Ministry may not be able to over-ride these queues it may well be possible to convince the appropriate governors to make the changes themselves especially is CAP funds could be secured to rush the project.

Here is the thread to make specific budget requests. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21947&pagenumber=5)

Thank you, these possibilities will be considered. I only made one request for last chat because I didn't realize we had money to spend on CAP. Quite frankly, I wasn't even expecting the university in Cyrus to get the funding I asked for. I will probably ask for all of these, though I'll have to look at the save to prioritize, probably some time tomorrow. Anyone is welcome to suggest which ones they think are the most important or any other suggestions they may have. The help would be much appreciated. :)

Actually, I won't be able to check the save. It's sort of complicated, but here goes. I'm moving on the 21st. As a result, I had to cancel my internet on the 11th, or pay for a full month. However, my spouse's mom (whose I house I am living at for the next ten days) has the internet on her computer, so I can still participate in the forums and turnchats. However, this computer does not have Civ3, and I'm reluctant to install it because it's not my computer and it's kinda big. So, I can download the save to her computer, but not play it. I suppose I can look at last turn's save (which I have) and get a general idea for city placement and priorities, but it will be imprecise.

Originally posted by punkbass2000


I will probably ask for all of these, though I'll have to look at the save to prioritize, probably some time tomorrow.

:eek:

Please only ask for a couple which you feel are most important. I can allocate some funding for CAP, but it is not for me to decide which rushes are priority. And please post your suggestions in the 'budget requests' thread I started in the citizens forum to see if anyone objects.

You can still ask for tham all PB - if you do just prioritize the list in your request. It is better to ask for too much than for too little. Besides, we never know when we're gonna sell a tech and make lots of gold. :)

Originally posted by donsig
You can still ask for tham all PB - if you do just prioritize the list in your request. It is better to ask for too much than for too little. Besides, we never know when we're gonna sell a tech and make lots of gold. :)

That was my rationale.

Hello everyone, I am sorry for my extended absence from the forums. I just got back home from CGSC, I didn't realize how much time the course would consume outside of class, a lot of assignments and reading. Anyway, I will try to download the save and get back up to speed tomorrow, tonight I have some catching up to do with my wife and kids. I appreciate the work that Punkbass and Curufinwe have done in my absence, and I support their efforts. I will work to analyze the CAP and develop some priorities tomorrow as well. Thank you to everyone for your patience.

Justus II

wb Justus II.

Grand, I've awaited your arrival for ages so that I may learn of your significant store of sapience.

Welcome Justus! And don't mind the dust and debris. There was a lot of rioting recently. :)

Well, now that I have had a day or so to get back up to speed, I want to post the following recommendations for our Culture Ministry. First, I am happy to report that most of the cities on previous lists have in fact completed universities (Abydos, Alexandria) or soon will (Elephantine 1 turn, Memphis 3).

Since most of these will require changing build queues, I am going to also send some of these recommendations to the different governors. Here is my proposed priority of cultural buildings, and approximate time to completion or cost to rush if we switched right away.

Paville Library 39 turns Cost 156 (-4/turn)
Justinian Temple* 10 turns Cost* 216 (-24/turn)
Macao University 11 turns Cost 288 (-28/turn)
San Fran. University 17 turns Cost 332 (-20/turn)
Chondote Temple 58 turns Cost 232 (-4/turn)

* Justinian also needs a university, but a temple is initially cheaper. It has no shields accumulated at present, and should build at least one turn before rushing.

The total cost of the first three projects is currently 664 gold. After four turns the cost is 440 gold. This may well be affordable by then. Since it is now 1360 AD I suggest asking for an allocation of 440 gold for the year 1380 AD. That would allow these three improvements to be done this coming turn chat. It should also allow us to keep our 1000 gold reserve and the 740 gold for upgrading our riflemen to infantry.

You have to make a specific request to the domestic leader or else we end up piling up the gold for later.

Council Vote in session

Justus II, please cast your vote in the Council Vote to approve new Provincial Borders (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25820).