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Plexus
May 31, 2002, 06:05 PM
Well, a new term means a new thread, (click HERE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22507) to see last term's thread.) :)

This is the official thread of the Province of Ameri.

Thanks to you, I am serving another term, I promise to do my best. :)
Offical Ameri Website (http://www.geocities.com/enemysoldier88)


Cities:

* San Francisco (capital)
Atlanta
Civanatoria
New York
Philadelphia
Seattle

The build queue is: (key: "[c]" means current)

San Francisco: Cavalry[c], Worker, Cathedral
Atlanta: Harbor[c], Worker, Courthouse
Civanatoria: Iron Works, Cathedral[c], University, Bank
New York: University[c], Bank, Cavalry
Philadelphia: Cathedral[c], Settler, worker
Seattle: Market[c], Worker, Temple

Facts:
Population: 61 (2,686,000 people) we account for
22.0181982129683...% of the population. (change of -.074%)HERE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22507)

disorganizer
Jun 04, 2002, 06:07 AM
A geographical map of our province with our flag on the upper right. Provincial borders to our neighbors are shown with their provincial names.

disorganizer
Jun 04, 2002, 06:11 AM
This is a political map of ameri:
with landmarks, borders, neighbors, cities and major roads.

other resources:
Ameri Flag (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/ameri-flag.png) as png-file.
The political map as PSP (Paint-Shop pro) file (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/ameri-political8.zip).

Plexus
Jun 04, 2002, 08:33 AM
I love the map! thanx. :)

disorganizer
Jun 04, 2002, 04:23 PM
i still have some naming requests though:
the upper coast should be called "outer rim", as this is the ocean front.
the coast on the right of the map should be called "inner rim" as this is only a small patch of ocean to china.

im also wondering which mountains are called which name. i think you choose "iron mountains" for the ones right of new york.
but what about those left of san-franciso and left of civanatoria?
and the rivers?

Plexus
Jun 04, 2002, 05:04 PM
The rivers have not been named, I belive that all the mountians are called the iron mountians (because they are all joined), and the Inner and Outer rim names have been accepted. :)

Any other name suggestions are appriciated (and they stand a good chance of being accepted, too).

Immortal
Jun 04, 2002, 05:08 PM
such beutiful lands, I wish to make my home here, my home shall be in New York, Ill open a small grocery store there.

Plexus
Jun 04, 2002, 05:26 PM
We have updated the site. :)

Plexus
Jun 04, 2002, 06:21 PM
Rename San Francisco? Does anyone still want to do this?

disorganizer
Jun 05, 2002, 01:43 AM
i would suggest no to name the whole range the iron mountains, since they change direction and in rl this is not usual to have the same name for them.
as you see when looking on the geographical map of phoenatica, the mountains along the ameri/normandy valey seem to consist of 2 separate ranges, which were built by 2 different drift-directions of the tectonic plates.
hence, 2 mountain ranges should be named ;-)
i propose the iron mointains are the ones going norht<->south, and the east<->west going along ameri and normandy should be named differently
(also, the 2 names just look nicer on the map)

Chieftess
Jun 05, 2002, 07:50 AM
This is a reminder too all cabinet members and governers to post their turn chat instructions here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23980) for tonight's turn chat, if you haven't done so already.

Plexus
Jun 05, 2002, 08:22 PM
Good news, guys! We can build the Ironworks in Civanatoria! :):)

Immortal
Jun 05, 2002, 10:40 PM
woohoo! with each day our province becomes greater!

chiefpaco
Jun 05, 2002, 11:26 PM
Great! This will keep our unemployment at an alltime low!

Civanator
Jun 06, 2002, 01:14 PM
change the production in civanatoria to iron works, or rush the cathedral and then build the iron works. If you rush the cathedral i'll pay with the money i made in 2 terms of science leader :lol:

disorganizer
Jun 07, 2002, 12:36 AM
perfect civ! plexus: this should both be done in the next chat!

chiefpaco
Jun 08, 2002, 12:52 PM
Plexus, what do you feel about how productive our citizens are? Couldn't NY's citizens be working harder? Also, I've heard the the citizens of Atlanta are not that happy. Is there anything we can do for them?

Also, how do you feel about getting more cities in your province? I see a couple possible locations which may pay off strategically:
- by the saltpeter between SF and El-Amarna
- past Seattle close to China
Anything we can do there?

Plexus
Jun 08, 2002, 02:42 PM
i thought of that, i will probablly build a factory in NY and a market in Atlanta. :)

chiefpaco
Jun 09, 2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Plexus
i thought of that, i will probablly build a factory in NY and a market in Atlanta. :)

I should be more clear. I meant the citizen entertainer or specialist who could be working and would be still happy.

Plexus
Jun 09, 2002, 04:26 PM
ok, i will do that then

donsig
Jun 10, 2002, 10:26 AM
The President's office must inform Governor Plexus that San Francisco recently recruited two workers for NEP. his action was taken as no build queue was supplied for the cities of Ameri for the 1270 AD turn chat.
The President requests that build queues for Ameri be entered into the 1315 AD turn chat thread.

Turn chat 1315 AD (June 12) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24529)

donsig
Jun 10, 2002, 09:54 PM
Governor Plexus,

We have encountered problems trying to build the ironworks in Civanatoria. We currently have two workers in the area who recently completed connecting the coal via road. (They are currently mining and railroading the coal area.) The trouble is we still cannot build the ironworks! We were unable to switch from cathedral to ironworks (or military acedemy or palace). We did manage to forestall the building of the cathedral by letting a couple laborers 'rest' for a turn. Civanatoria in currently set to build a factory. Once the factory is complete we should be able to begin construction of the ironworks. Alternatively, we could switch back to cathedral (and waste a few shields) and then start the ironworks right after that. I urge you to look into this situation and advise us on the best route to take in order to complete this project in your great province.

Thanks,
donsig

chiefpaco
Jun 10, 2002, 10:35 PM
SHould we rush the Factory in case resources disappear? I'm not sure what the cost would be.

donsig
Jun 11, 2002, 06:12 AM
Rushing the factory right now would cost 244 gold and that cost will decline by 28 gold/turn. The factory will be complete in 9 turns without rushing. We could also switch back to the cathedral which would be ready next turn at a 'cost' of about 20 shields wasted.

It's a tough call. I'd rather see those funds go to CAP but I'd hate to lose the chance to build the ironworks, too! Switching to the cathedral is ok, but the factory will be better since Civanatoria still needs an aqueduct in order to grow. We'll have to hear the governor's thoughts on all this.

disorganizer
Jun 11, 2002, 08:30 AM
Implementing the factory first will also speed up the building of the ironworks. Cathedral wont help it.
So i would recommend factory rushing, then build ironworks.

Plexus
Jun 11, 2002, 04:58 PM
Well you guys, It has been great but, go here for my resignation thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24639

Sorry :(

donsig
Jun 11, 2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by disorganizer
Implementing the factory first will also speed up the building of the ironworks. Cathedral wont help it.
So i would recommend factory rushing, then build ironworks.

The only risk is that the iron or the coal will disappear before the factory is finished. If so then we won't be able to build the ironworks. Once we start the ironworks we can finish it even if one of the resources gets used up.

Sorry, to see you go PLexus..

Anyone know who governs Ameri in this case?

punkbass2000
Jun 11, 2002, 06:14 PM
I would think the Domestic Advisor, unhtil next term.

Cyc
Jun 11, 2002, 07:04 PM
Why,... didn't he name a sucessor or Lieutenant Governor?

Plexus
Jun 11, 2002, 07:53 PM
Well, who wants the position?

disorganizer
Jun 12, 2002, 06:36 AM
i would propose immortal, as he could attend the chat-sessions, but i dont know wheter he will accept

donsig:
if we rush the factory, we will not loose time till ironworks starts in comparison to other choices.

donsig
Jun 12, 2002, 07:52 AM
Yes, disorganizer but is it worth it to rush the factory when funds are tight?

Immortal
Jun 12, 2002, 07:56 AM
I am afraid I must decline, as I am currently studying for finals, and do not have time to run.

Thanks for the support

chiefpaco
Jun 12, 2002, 01:49 PM
I nominate Civanator, our past Science advisor for 2 terms who can do a great job! WHat is the protocol for replacing?

Civanator
Jun 12, 2002, 01:52 PM
Yes, i'll be the governer, or run for the position.

disorganizer
Jun 12, 2002, 02:15 PM
constitution:
domestic department governs provinces without a governor.

=>

1) dom-leader or deputy must govern the province as interim governor.
2) we must have a normal nomination/election phase (official, in main civ3-demo-forum). maybe we could shorten it, im not sure.
3) new governor takes over, with a new province-thread

disorganizer
Jun 12, 2002, 02:20 PM
donsig:
i think loosing 240 gold for getting the possibility for ironworks without loosing shields and also a faster building of it (50%+ shields after factory i think) and so having a high-production city in a relatively low-corruption area is worth it.
i also have talked to the domestic leader (eyrei) about this and he already authorized it (see domestic-thread).
sorry for having simultanious procedure here, but decision needed to be quick and unburocratic this time.

EDIT:
2nd point:
i was not sure about responsibility here. even if plexus would have been there, since it is a national issue (civanatoria is our only ironworks-able city!).

eyrei
Jun 12, 2002, 03:48 PM
I am pretty sure we have to wait until next turn to build ironworks, though we may have cut down some trees, which would also prevent it's construction. We must start the ironworks, ASAP, as coal and iron both have a tendency to disappear when you most need them.

disorganizer
Jun 12, 2002, 04:35 PM
if we rush factory in pre-turn, then next turn ironworks will be able to be chosen (all corrupted shields will be gone since a new production is started).
no problem, ironworks is finished as soon as possible (since we cant switch anyways).
in fact, it will even be finished faster propably. we will in the next turn also be able to deforest, mine and rail the area to max production.

Plexus
Jun 12, 2002, 08:10 PM
Alrighty Civanator, you are the interim-Governor. Good luck. :)

Civanator
Jun 15, 2002, 05:47 PM
should i start a new thread?

eyrei
Jun 15, 2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Civanator
should i start a new thread?

Not yet. I think you are only governor until the election can be completed, and then after that if you are elected, which I hope you will be.

donsig
Jun 16, 2002, 09:02 AM
Governor Civanator,

We could use a few more workers. Would you check to see if any of your cities coulr recruit new workers in the near future?

chiefpaco
Jun 16, 2002, 10:21 PM
:) Can we take Philly off worker? Its population is dwindling.

chiefpaco
Jun 17, 2002, 12:22 PM
I have prepared this screenshot of Ameri and thought I would share it:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/ameri_province.jpg

I'd like to make the following recommendations for Ameri:
Civanatoria: Can't expand w/o an aqueduct so why not change a worker from an irrigation to the mined mountain and get IW in 14 instead of 18.

Philly - stop the workers! How about making a Barracks and Rilfemen. Or how about a courthouse?

NY - let the scientist work. WLTK will still be intact.

Paville - CUlture building? Library?

Seattle - Entertainer can go back to work and maintain WLTK.

Atlanta - No happiness improvements for a size 10 city. How about a marketplace or temple?

donsig
Jun 17, 2002, 01:33 PM
I suggested this in the Presidential thread and will repeat it here.

Why don't we settle a couple foreign workers in Philadelphia during the next turn chat?

donsig
Jun 17, 2002, 04:01 PM
The President's office is conducting a poll about settling foreign workers in Philadelphia.

Please vote! (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25088)

Justus II
Jun 17, 2002, 09:19 PM
To our honorable Governor Civanator,

As culture minister I must recommend that we increase the cultural development in your region. Specifically, our new town of Paville needs to first build a library to enable its citizens to read of our glorious history. In fact, the Culture department would even be willing to pay for that library, if our funding is approved. Second, I hope you will consider switching San Francisco from Marketplace to a University. The cost is the same, but would generate more culture, increasing the pressure on the Chinese. I appreciate your consideration of these requests.

donsig
Jun 18, 2002, 06:46 AM
I second the requests of both Chiefpaco and Justus II. I would add that build queue and city optimization are very important powers of a governor. We know you will use them wisely Civanator. If you'd rather start a new thread for Ameri then please do so.

Civanator
Jun 19, 2002, 04:37 PM
I am going to start a new thread for Ameri right now.

Duke of Marlbrough
Jun 21, 2002, 09:00 PM
New Ameri Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25377)