winddelay has offered his services for some buttons. Thanks! And I'm hoping to coerce snipper into making some as well. I know he already has and I need to look back through them.

I thought we needed to get down to business and figure out some themes. We need:

Techs
Units
Buildings
Promotions

anything else?

Here's a shot of matthewv's Genetics example
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Genetics_20button.JPG

I love the Moon backdrop. Any other suggestions or ideas?

I really like some of snipper's buttons found here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=3888), but wonder if we can make a lunar theme in these or simply make pictures for the techs without a theme.

Snipper also created some lunar buttons like these in the interface download section. These should sure go in.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads//moonbuttons_u5Q.png

Here's a shot of matthewv's Genetics example
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Genetics_20button.JPG

I love the Moon backdrop. Any other suggestions or ideas?

If we want to go for that moon backdrop for all our tech buttons, let me know and I will upload it.

If we want to go for that moon backdrop for all our tech buttons, let me know and I will upload it.

I think that backdrop and then some simpler symbol might look cool for techs.

Even that backdrop and differing colors for the other buttons as well.

I think that backdrop and then some simpler symbol might look cool for techs.

Even that backdrop and differing colors for the other buttons as well.

I was thinking exactly the same.:)

If evryone agrees I will make backdrop for all the diffent button types and then someone else can add symbols to all of then.

I agree :D

I agree... for the first two era's!
How about a star+perhaps planet background from the third era onwards? :D

I agree... for the first two era's!
How about a star+perhaps planet background from the third era onwards? :D

I'll see what I can come up with:)

I really love this art style. Could we use something like this for a button?

It will be perfect for flag design. Not sure for another use.

Yeah, I like matt's idea for the moon background on buttons, but can't think of anything else to add.

frenchman - Now that you seen the first era or two in techs and some of the basic buildings/units do you have any ideas for buttons?

frenchman - Now that you seen the first era or two in techs and some of the basic buildings/units do you have any ideas for buttons?

I have already created some techs buttons which could work with SotM.
I suggest to use my Graphics Pack (posted yesterday) in the Modpack forum.
We have just to replace the CIV4TechInfos file by the SotM one and to delete the buttons which are not used...

I think your buttons will work perfect frenchman.

Any ideas for promotion buttons? Well, once we figure out promotions anyhow...

Any ideas for promotion buttons? Well, once we figure out promotions anyhow...

Extra Life-Support (double movement in hills), Power Cells (double attack for vehicles), Jetpack (orbital drop for infantry), rebreather (+10% attack), remotes (+1 visibility), Stealth (infantry invisible for other units, but not for sensor facilities or something), Power Pack I --> III (basic promotions for infantry so other promo's can be obtained), Waldo Suit (+1 move for infantry), Sickberth (+10% healing rate for units, only a vehicle can have this promotion)

Great, time for Geo to start a BtS promotions thread!

I'm copying frenchman's info about techs here and then jotting down what buttons of his we can use for that tech. Anything blank will still need to be done.

ERA 1:

LASER: - Laser.dds
COMPOSITES: - Nanotechnology.dds
ECOLOGY - Hydroponics.dds
[COLOR="Red"]SUPERCONDUCTORS - No idea, but any google image. ;)
LUNAR GEOGRAPHY - Cartography.dds

FIBER OPTICS: - AdvancedOptics.dds
LOWG ENGINEERING: - ArtifGrav.dds
AQUACULTURE: - Aquaculture.dds
LOWG BIOLOGY: - Biotechnics.dds
GENETICS: - StemCellsRes.dds
SELENO GEOPHYSICS: - Geo? What is this anyways?

FUSION: - cold_fusion.dds
OPTICAL NEURAL NETWORK: - ArtifIntel.dds
ROBOTICS: - Cyborg.dds
SELEPONICS - Geo? What is this anyways? Part II
LUNAR MEDICINE: - Maybe a microscope and Moon in same pic?
COLONIAL ETHICS - Terraforming.dds

ERA2:

LUNAR INDUSTRY: - Any lunar looking factory
VACUUM LOGISTICS: - like the semiconuctor, as long as it looks futuristic it can't be wrong.
ORBITAL RECONNAISSANCE: - something with satellites?
CHARTRA SELENE: - a moon and an official looking document?
GENETIC MANIPULATION: - GeneticModif.dds

LOWG TACTICS: - Moon pic with soldiers or lunar vehicle
POWER ECONOMICS: - moon and currency in pic
APPLIED ASTRONOMY: - telescope and moon
ORBITAL CONSTRUCTION: - moon and space station
HIGH ENERGY CHEMISTRY: - beakers and moon
BIONICS - Bionics.dds
RETROVIRAL ENGINEERING: - petrie dish or lab equipment

CISLUNAR DOCTRINE: - no idea
LUNAR CORPORATIONS: - any nice office building on the moon
METAPHYSICAL COSMOLOGY: - no idea again
PLASMA MECHANICS - plasma equipment
CYBERNETICS - Cybernetics.dds
ARTIFICIAL BIOSPHERE - AdvancedTerraforming.dds

And there are still the following that have a use in SotM, but I couldn't match them with existing techs:

Biological Warfare
Cloning
Smart Weapons
Space Laser
Teleportation

I need a short description in order I could propose to you new techs...
Some I don't understand exactly what they are...
For Space Laser I will make a Lunar Special one

For Super conductors what are you seeing for a picture ? ( I have one...)
SELENO GEOPHYSICS I don't understand (problem of translation)

For the beginning we could use *.dds picture with the name in spite of the picture... (for the missing ones)
I will propose to you a pack... After, we have just to replace the picture one by one...

PS I begin to have problem with the maximum 30 Mb of the upload system... Any way to solve this problem?
:)

I need a short description in order I could propose to you new techs...
Some I don't understand exactly what they are...
For Space Laser I will make a Lunar Special one

For Super conductors what are you seeing for a picture ? ( I have one...)
SELENO GEOPHYSICS I don't understand (problem of translation)

I'll add a line of description in the post above behind every red tagged item.

For the beginning we could use *.dds picture with the name in spite of the picture... (for the missing ones)
I will propose to you a pack... After, we have just to replace the picture one by one...

Yep, that works for me.

PS I begin to have problem with the maximum 30 Mb of the upload system... Any way to solve this problem?
:)

You can PM Thunderfall and ask for more space.

Post 18 edited frenchman with descriptions. Basically it comes down to any image with a lunar backdrop can work. If it looks like science or learning and has that "moon" feel then it'll be perfect.

You can also go through the 100+ tech icons from the old mod and see if any can be reworked, maybe.

Okay, let's agree first on a structure for those icons.
Do we go with the stuff matthewv proposed? (lunar background with a symbol for the tech in front like the genetic helix)
Do we use existing icons from where-ever? If so, we also need a structure in what to take and what not. For instance, I won't like to see any sort of button ingame which has something like an atmosphere background (see the glasshouse -or extractor icon if you don't understand what I mean)

ERA 1:

LASER: - Laser.dds
COMPOSITES: - Nanotechnology.dds
ECOLOGY - Hydroponics.dds
SUPERCONDUCTORS - No idea, but any google image. ;)
LUNAR GEOGRAPHY - Cartography.dds

FIBER OPTICS: - AdvancedOptics.dds
LOWG ENGINEERING: - ArtifGrav.dds
AQUACULTURE: - Aquaculture.dds
LOWG BIOLOGY: - Biotechnics.dds
GENETICS: - StemCellsRes.dds
SELENO GEOPHYSICS: - Geo? What is this anyways?

Most of these techs come straight from Civ4 - BtS. If all fails they can easily use their existing techbutton.
Seleno Geophysics is the research of the Moon itself, like Geophysics is research of the Earth by seismetic, electromagnetic and few other ways. Selene is Greek for Moon, like Luna is Latin for Moon. Let's just shorten this tech to Selenophysics. ;)

FUSION: - cold_fusion.dds
OPTICAL NEURAL NETWORK: - ArtifIntel.dds
ROBOTICS: - Cyborg.dds
SELEPONICS - Geo? What is this anyways? Part II
LUNAR MEDICINE: - Maybe a microscope and Moon in same pic?
COLONIAL ETHICS - Terraforming.dds

Fusion an Robotics also have buttons in Civ4 - BtS.
ONN is a far cry from artificial intelligence, and I already marked this as a third era tech.
Seleponics is hydroponics under a "lunie"name.
For Lunar Medicine a stylish combination of Matthewv's button (moon background) with a :health: icon instead of the DNA-helix would fit best.
Colonial Ethics is the general discussion on where and what society on the moon will develop, not solely issues about terraforming. Something like a cultural icon with a moon background would fit better.

Have to stop now, I'm not feeling well...

We can use frenchman's style and see how that looks. I like matt's moon backdrop, but using that for all techs might get redundant. Maybe for promotions or civics?

The first question is: will we take 160x160 pictures or 64x64 original ones.

Personally, I prefer the big size, like Roamty says, CIV 4 is a visual game which deserves big pictures...

If we take the big size we can begin with my pack and the techs listen by Woodelf.
Whatever, I would suggest to begin with the techs which are already existing (even if we have earth in background... ;) ) in order to make the game working and after it will be possible to change them...

:)

GeoModder: " For instance, I won't like to see any sort of button ingame which has something like an atmosphere background (see the glasshouse -or extractor icon if you don't understand what I mean)"

:eek: That means that I have to rework all the leaders too...:hammer2:

I think the LHs can be assumed to be indoors or in a lab or a closed environment.

I think the LHs can be assumed to be indoors or in a lab or a closed environment.

No problem... I will propose to you new backgrounds in the coming days... ;)

:eek: That means that I have to rework all the leaders too...:hammer2:

Oh, not at all frenchman. Those leaders simply have a high-end holographic wall in their office. :)